Poll of the Day > Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice

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https://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html


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Are you trying to get me suspended by tagging posters?

What's linked to being a left leaning centrist

I imagine it goes even higher when you factor in economic conservatism.
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SkynyrdRocker posted...

What's linked to being a left leaning centrist

Defending very fine people who technically arent Nazis

technically
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SkynyrdRocker posted...

What's linked to being a left leaning centrist

Lmaooo
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Recycling old material for your trolling? I haven't seen this alt-news article pop up in a few years.

SkynyrdRocker posted...

What's linked to being a left leaning centrist

Super intelligence. After all, the extremes of both sides of the political spectrum have research associating them with low intelligence so the closer you are to center, the smarter you must be.
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/millennial-media/201304/do-racism-conservatism-and-low-iq-go-hand-in-hand
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SkynyrdRocker posted...

What's linked to being a left leaning centrist

Attainment of a bachelor's degree or higher
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Now see, if I posted something like that I'd get modded.
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To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand the libs
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I'm mostly conservative, but smart enough to know better about some things. My family who is here right now from about an hour NE of SF in Cali is fully republican. Literally all of them, including my aunt who is from here in BC. I didn't ask them how they felt about their vaccine laws, but they certainly hated Hilary and Obamacare that was costing them $450/paycheque. I'd honestly be upset, too. I think I pay $40/m and could go in right now and say I need to see a doctor because I have a headache, and pay nothing.
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High IQ and idealist beliefs linked to optimistic blunders.
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darcandkharg31 posted...

Now see, if I posted something like that I'd get modded.

I know, right? That's why I don't post stuff like this... well, that and I think it's particularly stupid trolling. It's low-hanging fruit on so many levels so I guess I can understand why somebody wouldn't be able to resist trying to annoy people with it.

The best part is when the follow-up link to the nearly decade-old alt-news piece that only includes inline links (a practice reserved for the sketchiest and most agenda-driven sites) is an opinion piece that sources that previously-mentioned article. Magnifique! That's some Erik-level shit.

zebatov posted...

I didn't ask them how they felt about their vaccine laws,

It's worth noting that liberals also have a tendency towards anti-vaxx so the issue isn't exclusive to one side. And it's worth noting that *many* of the same far-leftists who criticize conservatives as being anti-science for rejecting climate change turn around and engage in the anti-scientific practice of criticizing GMOs and other naturalistic fallacies.
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I dont know any liberals that have issues with vaccines or GMOs

I know several conservatives that commonly start sentences with: Im not racist or anything, but. . .


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SkynyrdRocker posted...

What's linked to being a left leaning centrist

Being a useless idiot.
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Mead posted...

I dont know any liberals that have issues with vaccines or GMOs

You don't know many people period. You went to a 200-student high school and -- last I heard -- are a stay-at-home dad to your pet dogs. As such, you're not going to encounter many people. However, I'm *pretty* sure you watch John Oliver so you shouldn't be unfamiliar with these issues:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VG_s2PCH_c" data-time="

https://www.cnn.com/2015/12/30/health/california-vaccine-refusers-white-and-wealthy/index.html

Fun fact: The last time Santa Barbara went to Republicans in a presidential election was 1988.
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Youve got no idea how many people I know Zeus

As usual you make up your own assumptions about others while at the same time being hypocritically guarded about any personal details that define you as a person

I doubt youd be so reviled on this board if you talked more about your own views and interests rather than just whining about moderations and arguing against what anyone else thinks
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Mead posted...

As usual you make up your own assumptions about others while at the same time being hypocritically guarded about any personal details that define you as a person

I'm not entirely sure you understand what hypocritical means; not only because it's wrong in the context, but because you're so often guilty of hypocrisy.

Mead posted...

I doubt youd be so reviled on this board if you talked more about your own views and interests rather than just whining about moderations and arguing against what anyone else thinks

Dude, most of that hate comes from YOU. And I'm not nearly as disliked as you frequently try to claim. More saliently, a lot of the dislike I do get originates BECAUSE I express my views, not because I shy away from them. And since I unabashedly express strong opinions on subjects where somebody or another disagrees equally strongly, that's largely irreconcilable. But sure, pretend that I don't share my views. It's hardly the most brazen lie you've attempted to push.
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I dont think you understand the difference between a view and a response
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Mead posted...

Youve got no idea how many people I know Zeus

You obviously couldn't have met anyone since high school right
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Mead posted...

Youve got no idea how many people I know Zeus

That seems to be a common trait with him. He's accused me of being a shut-in in several topics now. I think he thinks it's a good debating tactic or something.
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I don't think using IQ as a metric for anything other than measuring one's ability to take IQ tests is a road that anybody on the left wants to go down...
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Well there seems to be a strong correlation between poor IQ testing skills and the common prejudices of the far right
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Rasmoh posted...

I don't think using IQ as a metric for anything other than measuring one's ability to take IQ tests is a road that anybody on the left wants to go down...

that doesn't hold up as an argument, the IQ test is more a measurement of an individuals test taking abilities, ok?
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Well yeah.

Economic Conservatives are either rich smart people trying to get out of paying their taxes or dimmer poor people tricked into fending off their own welfare.

Socially "Conservative" people are basically the dumbest of the dumb people blaming their problems on other demographics because that's the easiest thing for their tribal brains to understand.

No wait, gays have been evil this whole time?! No, come on, you'd have to be stuck with the mind of a 13 year old to believe that.

Proof is in the comments of that article. I have no idea how they survive in life tbh.

I have no doubt there are dumb liberals, because I know many, but Socially Conservative people have to be pretty consistently dumb. I wouldn't group people against specifically Mexican immigration for the sole reason of competing for low paying jobs with them, to be fair. I just have a hard time imagining a large group of poor people going to one specific area ending any other way. Any other anti-Mexican immigrant agenda like diseases or drugs is proven bullshit.

There are a couple of studies out there saying Republicans have slightly higher IQs on average, but after you take into account the different demographics Democrats have a slight edge by one or two points.

Centrists are like a consistent 10 IQ points lower in every study. Lmao.
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Mead posted...

I dont think you understand the difference between a view and a response

I don't think you understand that a response can impart a view, which is just silly on your part.

darkknight109 posted...

Mead posted...

Youve got no idea how many people I know Zeus

That seems to be a common trait with him. He's accused me of being a shut-in in several topics now. I think he thinks it's a good debating tactic or something.

Untrue. I don't name-call.

Mead posted...

Well there seems to be a strong correlation between poor IQ testing skills and the common prejudices of the far right

There seems to be a strong correlation between people who desperately want to believe this and a susceptibility to questionable articles, including a "science" website that casts doubt on GMOs:

https://www.livescience.com/25799-frankenfish-salmon-gmo.html

The site, which apparently does no original research of its own and uses the denigrating term "frankenfish," cherrypicked a HuffPo article -- itself an alt-news site -- that tacitly pushed the opinions of several anti-GMO organizations and used scare graphics. Granted, the HuffPo piece is far more balanced than the Live "Science" story which, among other things, brings up the call to label GMO products (a tactic used to discourage the purchase of GMO products).

I'll also say that the story is notable for being the *only* one I've seen so far on the site with links that don't solely reference its own content.

https://www.livescience.com/51917-gmo-herbicides-health.html

Then we have a scare article about herbicides used on GMOs which very conveniently overlooks that "organic" products also use herbicides, often in greater volume. Granted, there's a brief criticism -- and by "brief" I mean one whole paragraph -- of the claims in there for balance, which also notes that one of the people is paid by a group that promotes anti-GMO agendas.

And I'm not going to get into discussing the typos in the article.
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All I see are responses
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Anti-vax stupidity does seem to extend to both the left and the right, in various pockets.

The GMO thing is a fucking pathetic argument, though. Oh, gosh! Those crazy liberals want to label what foods are genetically modified! How awful! That would have the same exact effect on consumer behavior that labeling stuff as organic currently does: the average person looks at both, sees the "franken-food" costs half the price of the "pure" food, and goes w/ the former.

Way more destructive is the Republican war on science in areas such as climate change, funding for research on solar and wind energy, and most recently, this:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/05/us/politics/fetal-tissue-research.html

Lawrence O. Gostin, a professor specializing in public health law at Georgetown University, said the new restrictions would devastate crucial medical research.

It will affect everything from cures for cancer and H.I.V. through to Parkinsons and dementia, Mr. Gostin said. The ban on fetal tissue research is akin to a ban on hope for millions of Americans suffering from life-threatening and debilitating diseases. It will also severely impact the National Institutes of Health, universities and other researchers, who will lose key funding for their laboratories and their vital work.

But yeah, throw a fit over people wanting a label added to food.

Yellow posted...

Economic Conservatives are either rich smart people trying to get out of paying their taxes or dimmer poor people tricked into fending off their own welfare.

Unless you fail at life or specifically profit from government (be it contracts, employment, or welfare), libertarianism and economic conservatism are going to work best for you. The average voter has been tricked into paying excessive taxes to support systems that frequently work to his detriment.

Yellow posted...

Socially "Conservative" people are basically the dumbest of the dumb people blaming their problems on other demographics because that's the easiest thing for their tribal brains to understand.

Which is the same kind of demographic blaming that happens on the left, but you're curiously not to talk about it whether it's arguments for reparations, claims that people are poor because CEOs make too much, blaming cops for everything under the sun, etc.

Yellow posted...

I have no doubt there are dumb liberals, because I know many, but Socially Conservative people have to be pretty consistently dumb. I wouldn't group people against specifically Mexican immigration for the sole reason of competing for low paying jobs with them, to be fair. I just have a hard time imagining a large group of poor people going to one specific area ending any other way. Any other anti-Mexican immigrant agenda like diseases or drugs is proven bullshit.

Overlooking that illegal labor also helps to repress wage growth, displaced workers affect *all* taxpaying Americans. If restaurants in the area are hiring illegals to keep up with their competitors and fewer Americans are being hired as a result, the welfare costs associated with those unemployed workers are passed along to taxpayers.

As for issues like trafficking and drugs, an insecure border is going to carry those issues... and we know it carries those issues because the US has collaborated in running guns across the border in the past.

Yellow posted...

There are a couple of studies out there saying Republicans have slightly higher IQs on average, but after you take into account the different demographics Democrats have a slight edge by one or two points.

Centrists are like a consistent 10 IQ points lower in every study. Lmao.

Nice links to studies. I'm guessing those are the sketchy ones that Terris showed you that argue that people on the political extremes tend to have a higher IQ than people not on the extremes, a claim discounted by other links -- which were also sketchy -- that Terris had provided that same week. And people on those extremes aren't even particularly any more informed than the general public, since they just parrot their side's respective talking points.
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streamofthesky posted...

Anti-vax stupidity does seem to extend to both the left and the right, in various pockets.

The GMO thing is a fucking pathetic argument, though. Oh, gosh! Those crazy liberals want to label what foods are genetically modified! How awful! That would have the same exact effect on consumer behavior that labeling stuff as organic currently does: the average person looks at both, sees the "franken-food" costs half the price of the "pure" food, and goes w/ the former.

Way more destructive is the Republican war on science in areas such as climate change, funding for research on solar and wind energy, and most recently, this:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/05/us/politics/fetal-tissue-research.html

Lawrence O. Gostin, a professor specializing in public health law at Georgetown University, said the new restrictions would devastate crucial medical research.

It will affect everything from cures for cancer and H.I.V. through to Parkinsons and dementia, Mr. Gostin said. The ban on fetal tissue research is akin to a ban on hope for millions of Americans suffering from life-threatening and debilitating diseases. It will also severely impact the National Institutes of Health, universities and other researchers, who will lose key funding for their laboratories and their vital work.

But yeah, throw a fit over people wanting a label added to food.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AppealToWorseProblems
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Yellow posted...

Centrists are like a consistent 10 IQ points lower in every study. Lmao.

making an educated decision is hard, it's easier to claim you're on the fence, helps avoid reading up on both sides, ok?
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Taily_Po posted...

Untrue

Well, there was these:

Zeus posted...

Try leaving your home at some point and talking to them.

Zeus posted...

Because, again, you don't seem to talk to many people.

Zeus posted...

You have a skewed worldview based on an overly apparent lack of offline communication

Zeus posted...

And here we a defense favored by shut-ins. There are certain things that people of reasonable age and social activity should know. If you're pleading ignorance, perhaps you could explain the circumstances surrounding said ignorance.

...so you're either a liar or have a bad memory. Or both.

My money's on both.

Taily_Po posted...

I don't name-call.

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Taily_Po posted...

streamofthesky posted...

Anti-vax stupidity does seem to extend to both the left and the right, in various pockets.

The GMO thing is a fucking pathetic argument, though. Oh, gosh! Those crazy liberals want to label what foods are genetically modified! How awful! That would have the same exact effect on consumer behavior that labeling stuff as organic currently does: the average person looks at both, sees the "franken-food" costs half the price of the "pure" food, and goes w/ the former.

Way more destructive is the Republican war on science in areas such as climate change, funding for research on solar and wind energy, and most recently, this:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/05/us/politics/fetal-tissue-research.html

Lawrence O. Gostin, a professor specializing in public health law at Georgetown University, said the new restrictions would devastate crucial medical research.

It will affect everything from cures for cancer and H.I.V. through to Parkinsons and dementia, Mr. Gostin said. The ban on fetal tissue research is akin to a ban on hope for millions of Americans suffering from life-threatening and debilitating diseases. It will also severely impact the National Institutes of Health, universities and other researchers, who will lose key funding for their laboratories and their vital work.

But yeah, throw a fit over people wanting a label added to food.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AppealToWorseProblems

In a topic about conservatives being anti-science, you try to play a game of whataboutism with the GMO shit, and when I point out conservative anti-science views that are far more damaging to society, you try to weakly counter by accusing me of whataboutism.

Uh huh.

Ah, I see. So we should expect countries like Japan and China to have low IQ's
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What about low IQ and liberal beliefs or high IQ and conservative beliefs? What are those linked to?
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What nonsense. This article contradicts itself.

People who give in to racism and prejudice may simply be dumb, according to a new study

the researchers aren't implying that all liberals are brilliant and all conservatives stupid. The research is a study of averages over large groups, he said.

"There are multiple examples of very bright conservatives and not-so-bright liberals, and many examples of very principled conservatives and very intolerant liberals," Hodson said.

Some of the highest IQ people like Christopher Langan and Bobby Fischer would put in this corner. In my country they always try during the political campaign to put the right wing in the corner of the low IQ hill billy's/chavs. This just sound as a bunch of propaganda.

Muscles posted...

What about low IQ and liberal beliefs or high IQ and conservative beliefs? What are those linked to?

The belly button
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Mead posted...

Well there seems to be a strong correlation between poor IQ testing skills and the common prejudices of the far right

There's also a strong correlation between low IQ and certain assertions made by White Supremacists. We try not to use IQ as a measure of anything important for a reason.
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Well sadly, America has done a wonderful job since the 1970s and 1980s of dumbing down our citizens and that's truly sad.
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BUMPED2002 posted...

Well sadly, America has done a wonderful job since the 1970s and 1980s of dumbing down our citizens and that's truly sad.

Easier to control a less educated populous
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You could have just said "low IQ linked to prejudice" and it would have been 100% accurate
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Mead posted...

I dont know any liberals that have issues with vaccines or GMOs

I know several conservatives that commonly start sentences with: Im not racist or anything, but. . .

Holy anecdotal evidence. As a genius liberal, you should know better

RedPixel posted...

You could have just said "low IQ linked to prejudice" and it would have been 100% accurate

It wouldn't have been what it was intended to be though which is a stealth hit piece on conservatives

RedPixel posted...

You could have just said "low IQ linked to prejudice" and it would have been 100% accurate

You do know you're talking about Mead, right?
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The_tall_midget posted...

RedPixel posted...

You could have just said "low IQ linked to prejudice" and it would have been 100% accurate

You do know you're talking about Mead, right?

Mead, the great kind of confirmation bias. Naw, we all know livescience is an extremely reputable science media outlet right?

Oh hey all those guys I wanted to tag showed up. That worked out well for everyone.

Cacciato posted...

Oh hey all those guys I wanted to tag showed up. That worked out well for everyone.

Thank you for proving my theory that you people are desperate for our attention. Meanwhile, we barely acknowledge you exist.
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Oh hey, that guy is bitching about me being right. That worked out well for me.

Cacciato posted...

Oh hey, that guy is bitching about me being right. That worked out well for me.

He's the one that's right though. Posters like mead tag and mention Zeus a lot more than the other way around. Plus, the same people always show up in political topics regardless of political spectrum. Mead and darkknight are predictably in every trump topic as well