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epik_fail1
07/11/19 11:32:10 AM
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Do you? - Results (17 votes)
Yes
52.94% (9 votes)
9
Only for small crimes
23.53% (4 votes)
4
No
23.53% (4 votes)
4
Well?
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Questionmarktarius
07/11/19 11:33:18 AM
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Probably, but being warehoused for a few decades is a pretty shitty way to do it.
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epik_fail1
07/11/19 11:35:57 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Probably, but being warehoused for a few decades is a pretty shitty way to do it.


I guess so.
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Irony
07/11/19 11:37:51 AM
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Yeah, it helped my uncle get back to work after his heart attack
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gunplagirl
07/11/19 11:40:17 AM
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Depends. People doing crimes out of desperation, they can be rehabilitated. Heck, many wouldn't even repeat the crime when without rehabilitation. Those "cheating husband and his mistress beat his wife to death, then desecrated her corpse as they tried to stage some burglary scene for the insurance" types? No possibly way to rehabilitate the husband, the mistress might be able to be rehabilitated if she joined in due to some codependency issue.
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0xDEFECADE
07/11/19 11:40:52 AM
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idk maybe
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NeoShadowhen
07/11/19 11:44:10 AM
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Only for small crimes. More people should be put away for life with no intention of rehabilitation. Its about removing them from society. Not trying to help the murderer get back on their feet.
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Dyinglegacy
07/11/19 11:44:19 AM
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It depends. Too bad we can't read peoples minds to know if they can or can't be rehabilitated.
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Questionmarktarius
07/11/19 11:46:58 AM
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Dyinglegacy posted...
It depends. Too bad we can't read peoples minds to know if they can or can't be rehabilitated.

That's pretty much the point of a "three strikes" system.
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Fossil
07/11/19 11:56:09 AM
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NeoShadowhen posted...
Only for small crimes. More people should be put away for life with no intention of rehabilitation. Its about removing them from society. Not trying to help the murderer get back on their feet.
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Dyinglegacy
07/11/19 12:04:55 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Dyinglegacy posted...
It depends. Too bad we can't read peoples minds to know if they can or can't be rehabilitated.

That's pretty much the point of a "three strikes" system.


Some things are just one strike, tho. Aren't they?
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knutjob
07/11/19 12:08:14 PM
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Yes. You can't just throw people in prison and wonder why they become bigger criminals.
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ThyCorndog
07/11/19 12:11:34 PM
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mostly

some people are psychos and cannot be rehabilitated

most people can be rehabilitated

real talk, I think the main reason why rehabilitation isn't appealing to people is not because it can't work, but because people feel it isn't right to let someone eventually walk free after they do something heinous. vengeance is more important than redemption to most people
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NeoShadowhen
07/11/19 12:19:29 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...
mostly

some people are psychos and cannot be rehabilitated

most people can be rehabilitated

real talk, I think the main reason why rehabilitation isn't appealing to people is not because it can't work, but because people feel it isn't right to let someone eventually walk free after they do something heinous. vengeance is more important than redemption to most people


Its not about vengeance, its about keeping things tidy. Criminals certainly shouldnt go free until theyve undone the damage they did to their victim at the minimum. Is their anything wrong with that outlook?
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ThyCorndog
07/11/19 12:20:35 PM
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NeoShadowhen posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
mostly

some people are psychos and cannot be rehabilitated

most people can be rehabilitated

real talk, I think the main reason why rehabilitation isn't appealing to people is not because it can't work, but because people feel it isn't right to let someone eventually walk free after they do something heinous. vengeance is more important than redemption to most people


Its not about vengeance, its about keeping things tidy. Criminals certainly shouldnt go free until theyve undone the damage they did to their victim at the minimum. Is their anything wrong with that outlook?

how do you undo the damage done by a murder?
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NeoShadowhen
07/11/19 12:26:21 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...
NeoShadowhen posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
mostly

some people are psychos and cannot be rehabilitated

most people can be rehabilitated

real talk, I think the main reason why rehabilitation isn't appealing to people is not because it can't work, but because people feel it isn't right to let someone eventually walk free after they do something heinous. vengeance is more important than redemption to most people


Its not about vengeance, its about keeping things tidy. Criminals certainly shouldnt go free until theyve undone the damage they did to their victim at the minimum. Is their anything wrong with that outlook?

how do you undo the damage done by a murder?


Guess you cant. Throw away the key.
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ThyCorndog
07/11/19 12:29:35 PM
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NeoShadowhen posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
NeoShadowhen posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
mostly

some people are psychos and cannot be rehabilitated

most people can be rehabilitated

real talk, I think the main reason why rehabilitation isn't appealing to people is not because it can't work, but because people feel it isn't right to let someone eventually walk free after they do something heinous. vengeance is more important than redemption to most people


Its not about vengeance, its about keeping things tidy. Criminals certainly shouldnt go free until theyve undone the damage they did to their victim at the minimum. Is their anything wrong with that outlook?

how do you undo the damage done by a murder?


Guess you cant. Throw away the key.

see, that's what I mean by vengeance. pretty much just writing someone off forever. not saying you're wrong for thinking that, the majority of people agree with you. but my point stands
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Dyinglegacy
07/11/19 12:32:07 PM
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NeoShadowhen posted...
Guess you cant. Throw away the key.


Murder seems to be the big exception, as there is no coming back for the victim. Robbery victims can come back. Hell, even rape victims (as horrid as rape is) can come back and live a relatively life. Depending on the person, they may even go on to be a voice for rape victim advocacy.

A murder victim, tho? It's over for them.
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NeoShadowhen
07/11/19 12:32:54 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...
NeoShadowhen posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
NeoShadowhen posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
mostly

some people are psychos and cannot be rehabilitated

most people can be rehabilitated

real talk, I think the main reason why rehabilitation isn't appealing to people is not because it can't work, but because people feel it isn't right to let someone eventually walk free after they do something heinous. vengeance is more important than redemption to most people


Its not about vengeance, its about keeping things tidy. Criminals certainly shouldnt go free until theyve undone the damage they did to their victim at the minimum. Is their anything wrong with that outlook?

how do you undo the damage done by a murder?


Guess you cant. Throw away the key.

see, that's what I mean by vengeance. pretty much just writing someone off forever. not saying you're wrong for thinking that, the majority of people agree with you. but my point stands


I disagree that its about vengeance. Vengeance would imply that there is a desire for them to suffer or otherwise care in some way about them. Writing them off forever is about recognizing there is no place for them in society, so theyre out. Keeping things tidy.

At least Im against the death penalty.
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ThyCorndog
07/11/19 12:34:24 PM
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Dyinglegacy posted...
NeoShadowhen posted...
Guess you cant. Throw away the key.


Murder seems to be the big exception, as there is no coming back for the victim. Robbery victims can come back. Hell, even rape victims (as horrid as rape is) can come back and live a relatively life. Depending on the person, they may even go on to be a voice for rape victim advocacy.

A murder victim, tho? It's over for them.

yeah. but there are a lot of murders where it happened over some long standing anger where the murderer is never going to kill anyone again except that one person they killed. they can technically be rehabilitated cause they're not making a habit of it. but we have trouble accepting that cause there's no way in hell the victim's family is going to be ok with letting them out
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