Poll of the Day > Is Kevin Spacey innocent, then?

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Rooster_Sucker 07/09/19 6:07:30 AM #1:	https://www.wgbh.org/news/local-news/2019/07/08/spacey-accuser-denies-deleting-texts-about-alleged-groping His accuser dropped the civil suit this past Friday, hasn't produced the cell phone he owned at the time of the alleged incident - which Spacey's defense team claims contains information that would exonerate their client - and now is pleading the fifth when questioned by Spacey's defense as to whether he deleted any information off of the missing phone. If this case gets dropped, should Spacey seek damages? This whole ordeal derailed his career and all but ruined his reputation. If he's guilty, he deserves all of that, plus jail time. But these latest developments aren't good for the prosecution, to say the least. --- Kick Rocks <cite>Rooster_Sucker posted [p:924442160] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote>https://www.wgbh.org/news/local-news/2019/07/08/spacey-accuser-denies-deleting-texts-about-alleged-groping His accuser dropped the civil suit this past Friday, hasn't produced the cell phone he owned at the time of the alleged incident - which Spacey's defense team claims contains information that would exonerate their client - and now is pleading the fifth when questioned by Spacey's defense as to whether he deleted any information off of the missing phone. If this case gets dropped, should Spacey seek damages? This whole ordeal derailed his career and all but ruined his reputation. If he's guilty, he deserves all of that, plus jail time. But these latest developments aren't good for the prosecution, to say the least.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 07/09/19 6:11:43 AM #2:	Thats one of several people who have accused him Hes a great actor but he derailed his career all on his own --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:924442217] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote>Thats one of several people who have accused him Hes a great actor but he derailed his career all on his own</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mad_Max 07/09/19 6:27:27 AM #3:	Mead posted... Thats one of several people who have accused him Hes a great actor but he derailed his career all on his own This. Take a look at this timeline: https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-41884878 --- Terminal Crazy https://imgur.com/R9TrmGD <cite>Mad_Max posted [p:924442472] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Thats one of several people who have accused him Hes a great actor but he derailed his career all on his own</quote> This. Take a look at this timeline: https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-41884878</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 07/09/19 6:45:44 AM #4:	He's innocent, even if he outright did it right in front of people, until judged guilty 'Cuz progress --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:924442740] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote>He's innocent, even if he outright did it right in front of people, until judged guilty 'Cuz progress</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 07/09/19 6:59:51 AM #5:	Lokarin posted... He's innocent, even if he outright did it right in front of people, until judged guilty 'Cuz progress Those people can be liars. There's a reason why English Common Law is the gold standard for law. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:924442954] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>He's innocent, even if he outright did it right in front of people, until judged guilty 'Cuz progress</quote> Those people can be liars. There's a reason why English Common Law is the gold standard for law.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 07/09/19 7:04:19 AM #6:	For an innocent guy he sure had I dont remember doing that but if I did Im sorry but hey IM GAY! Waiting right in his pocket as a response --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:924443010] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote>For an innocent guy he sure had I dont remember doing that but if I did Im sorry but hey IM GAY! Waiting right in his pocket as a response</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EvilMegas 07/09/19 8:15:55 AM #7:	I'm not sure either way, also he did go nuts for a bit after which was weird. --- Official King of Black People https://imgur.com/Zk3VS3o http://imgur.com/a/UeQiE https://imgur.com/aSnCUuI <cite>EvilMegas posted [p:924444166] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote>I'm not sure either way, also he did go nuts for a bit after which was weird.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mad_Max 07/09/19 8:58:26 AM #8:	EvilMegas posted... he did go nuts for a bit after which was weird. Remember that weird video he released in character as Frank from House of Cards? --- Terminal Crazy https://imgur.com/R9TrmGD <cite>Mad_Max posted [p:924445057] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote><cite>EvilMegas posted...</cite> <quote>he did go nuts for a bit after which was weird.</quote> Remember that weird video he released in character as Frank from House of Cards?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EvilMegas 07/09/19 9:11:28 AM #9:	Yeah, that was what I reffering to. It was creepy. --- Official King of Black People https://imgur.com/Zk3VS3o http://imgur.com/a/UeQiE https://imgur.com/aSnCUuI <cite>EvilMegas posted [p:924445329] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, that was what I reffering to. It was creepy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CTLM 07/09/19 9:21:57 AM #10:	If he's innocent (which it looks in this case he is), he really didn't do a lot to help his own cause. <cite>CTLM posted [p:924445561] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote>If he's innocent (which it looks in this case he is), he really didn't do a lot to help his own cause.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 07/09/19 9:53:16 AM #11:	EvilMegas posted... Yeah, that was what I reffering to. It was creepy. You need Kevin Spacey. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZNqaAh6iLU <cite>Yellow posted [p:924446356] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote><cite>EvilMegas posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, that was what I reffering to. It was creepy.</quote> You need Kevin Spacey.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 07/09/19 9:53:44 AM #12:	CTLM posted... If he's innocent (which it looks in this case he is), he really didn't do a lot to help his own cause. To be fair, somebody running from a crime they did would be desperate to cover their tracks. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:924446371] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote><cite>CTLM posted...</cite> <quote>If he's innocent (which it looks in this case he is), he really didn't do a lot to help his own cause.</quote> To be fair, somebody running from a crime they did would be desperate to cover their tracks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nichtcrawler X 07/09/19 10:55:56 AM #13:	Rooster_Sucker posted... This whole ordeal derailed his career and all but ruined his reputation. The incident in the link is not the accuser that derailed his career. That started with Anthony Rapp, who made far more serious accusations. --- Official Teetotaller of PotD Dovie'andi se tovya sagain! <cite>Nichtcrawler X posted [p:924448374] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rooster_Sucker posted...</cite> <quote>This whole ordeal derailed his career and all but ruined his reputation. </quote> The incident in the link is not the accuser that derailed his career. That started with Anthony Rapp, who made far more serious accusations.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fazeo13 07/09/19 12:14:14 PM #14:	He sounds like a horn dog who tried his luck? But still not sure. shrugs --- You aren't even really reading my posts; you're just staring at your e-mail client and fondly reminiscing about that hobo you stabbed to death. :P <cite>Fazeo13 posted [p:924451292] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote>He sounds like a horn dog who tried his luck? But still not sure. shrugs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 07/09/19 12:48:45 PM #15:	Imagine describing drunkenly climbing on top of 14 year old boys as trying your luck --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:924452621] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote>Imagine describing drunkenly climbing on top of 14 year old boys as trying your luck </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fazeo13 07/09/19 1:00:12 PM #16:	Mead posted... Imagine describing drunkenly climbing on top of 14 year old boys as trying your luck I don't remember that part? Link? Or is it just hearsay? --- You aren't even really reading my posts; you're just staring at your e-mail client and fondly reminiscing about that hobo you stabbed to death. :P <cite>Fazeo13 posted [p:924453086] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Imagine describing drunkenly climbing on top of 14 year old boys as trying your luck </quote> I don't remember that part? Link? Or is it just hearsay?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mad_Max 07/09/19 1:17:41 PM #17:	Fazeo13 posted... Mead posted... Imagine describing drunkenly climbing on top of 14 year old boys as trying your luck I don't remember that part? Link? Or is it just hearsay? Mad_Max posted... Take a look at this timeline: https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-41884878 --- Terminal Crazy https://imgur.com/R9TrmGD <cite>Mad_Max posted [p:924453783] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote><cite>Fazeo13 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Imagine describing drunkenly climbing on top of 14 year old boys as trying your luck </quote> I don't remember that part? Link? Or is it just hearsay?</quote> <cite>Mad_Max posted...</cite> <quote>Take a look at this timeline: https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-41884878</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hop103 07/09/19 1:33:46 PM #18:	The initial two Metoo cases (including Spacey) are pretty much 100% guilty of most counts. It's the later ones that start becoming suspect especially after early 2018. --- "In the name of the future moon I shall punish you"-Chibi Moon <cite>Hop103 posted [p:924454346] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote>The initial two Metoo cases (including Spacey) are pretty much 100% guilty of most counts. It's the later ones that start becoming suspect especially after early 2018.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fazeo13 07/09/19 1:41:43 PM #19:	Mad_Max posted... Fazeo13 posted... Mead posted... Imagine describing drunkenly climbing on top of 14 year old boys as trying your luck I don't remember that part? Link? Or is it just hearsay? Mad_Max posted... Take a look at this timeline: https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-41884878 Well he is not officially guilty yet. Erm Innocent till proven guilty, it might seem like a lot of accusations but not really anything for a celebrity. I'm still not sure but it doesn't seem like anything concrete until they have a conviction. --- You aren't even really reading my posts; you're just staring at your e-mail client and fondly reminiscing about that hobo you stabbed to death. :P <cite>Fazeo13 posted [p:924454642] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mad_Max posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Fazeo13 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Imagine describing drunkenly climbing on top of 14 year old boys as trying your luck </quote> I don't remember that part? Link? Or is it just hearsay?</quote> <cite>Mad_Max posted...</cite> <quote>Take a look at this timeline: https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-41884878</quote></quote> Well he is not officially guilty yet. Erm Innocent till proven guilty, it might seem like a lot of accusations but not really anything for a celebrity. I'm still not sure but it doesn't seem like anything concrete until they have a conviction.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 07/09/19 2:02:29 PM #20:	Fazeo13 posted... Mad_Max posted... Fazeo13 posted... Mead posted... Imagine describing drunkenly climbing on top of 14 year old boys as trying your luck I don't remember that part? Link? Or is it just hearsay? Mad_Max posted... Take a look at this timeline: https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-41884878 Well he is not officially guilty yet. Erm Innocent till proven guilty, it might seem like a lot of accusations but not really anything for a celebrity. I'm still not sure but it doesn't seem like anything concrete until they have a conviction. Bronze medal for mental gymnastics --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:924455407] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote><cite>Fazeo13 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mad_Max posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Fazeo13 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Imagine describing drunkenly climbing on top of 14 year old boys as trying your luck </quote> I don't remember that part? Link? Or is it just hearsay?</quote> <cite>Mad_Max posted...</cite> <quote>Take a look at this timeline: https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-41884878</quote></quote> Well he is not officially guilty yet. Erm Innocent till proven guilty, it might seem like a lot of accusations but not really anything for a celebrity. I'm still not sure but it doesn't seem like anything concrete until they have a conviction.</quote> Bronze medal for mental gymnastics</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 07/09/19 3:03:01 PM #21:	innocent until proven guilty --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:924457846] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote>innocent until proven guilty</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bulbasaur 07/09/19 3:21:50 PM #22:	Mad_Max posted... EvilMegas posted... he did go nuts for a bit after which was weird. Remember that weird video he released in character as Frank from House of Cards? those were fantastic --- and lookin' back i think you knew i wanted to be just like you <cite>Bulbasaur posted [p:924458639] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mad_Max posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EvilMegas posted...</cite> <quote>he did go nuts for a bit after which was weird.</quote> Remember that weird video he released in character as Frank from House of Cards?</quote> those were fantastic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_tall_midget 07/09/19 3:29:04 PM #23:	Krazy_Kirby posted... innocent until proven guilty Careful, you're saying things that sounds crazy to regressives. --- "There is no crisis at the border!" "The border crisis is manufactured!" "OMG! Look at that crisis at de border!" -Lol leftists. <cite>The_tall_midget posted [p:924458930] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote><cite>Krazy_Kirby posted...</cite> <quote>innocent until proven guilty</quote> Careful, you're saying things that sounds crazy to regressives.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 07/09/19 5:54:18 PM #24:	Krazy_Kirby posted... innocent until proven guilty I mean, its suppose to be... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:924465064] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote><cite>Krazy_Kirby posted...</cite> <quote>innocent until proven guilty</quote> I mean, its suppose to be...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bigbadharry 07/10/19 8:46:32 AM #25:	LinkPizza posted... Krazy_Kirby posted... innocent until proven guilty I mean, its suppose to be... Yeah true that dawg. I mean apparently it's mental gymnastics or something? Although there is always and exception to the rule cough OJ cough The juice is lose. --- Arrgh. Is this the end of lovable Igniz? Why!? There was no way I could lose! Why!? Why!? <cite>bigbadharry posted [p:924489473] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Krazy_Kirby posted...</cite> <quote>innocent until proven guilty</quote> I mean, its suppose to be...</quote> Yeah true that dawg. I mean apparently it's mental gymnastics or something? Although there is always and exception to the rule cough OJ cough The juice is lose.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iAmAnOrphan 07/10/19 9:32:40 AM #26:	bigbadharry posted... there is always and exception to the rule cough OJ cough The juice is lose. Interesting how the exception you note is a black man who was found not guilty... "Let's withhold judgment for the white man with a litany of accusations and allegations, but condemn the black man who was acquitted on all charges." --- GO TEAM VENTURE! <cite>iAmAnOrphan posted [p:924491002] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote><cite>bigbadharry posted...</cite> <quote>there is always and exception to the rule cough OJ cough The juice is lose.</quote> Interesting how the exception you note is a black man who was found not guilty... "Let's withhold judgment for the white man with a litany of accusations and allegations, but condemn the black man who was acquitted on all charges."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bigbadharry 07/10/19 9:49:01 AM #27:	iAmAnOrphan posted... bigbadharry posted... there is always and exception to the rule cough OJ cough The juice is lose. Interesting how the exception you note is a black man who was found not guilty... "Let's withhold judgment for the white man with a litany of accusations and allegations, but condemn the black man who was acquitted on all charges." In a huge miscarriage of justice. Man even black people know he's guilty. But hold up a minute bro he was convicted in civil court so kinda guilty. Why you lefties always got to make it blax vs white? --- Arrgh. Is this the end of lovable Igniz? Why!? There was no way I could lose! Why!? Why!? <cite>bigbadharry posted [p:924491588] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote><cite>iAmAnOrphan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>bigbadharry posted...</cite> <quote>there is always and exception to the rule cough OJ cough The juice is lose.</quote> Interesting how the exception you note is a black man who was found not guilty... "Let's withhold judgment for the white man with a litany of accusations and allegations, but condemn the black man who was acquitted on all charges."</quote> In a huge miscarriage of justice. Man even black people know he's guilty. But hold up a minute bro he was convicted in civil court so kinda guilty. Why you lefties always got to make it blax vs white?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EvilMegas 07/10/19 9:59:45 AM #28:	As a black man I am legally obligated to say OJ was innocent. --- Official King of Black People https://imgur.com/Zk3VS3o http://imgur.com/a/UeQiE https://imgur.com/aSnCUuI <cite>EvilMegas posted [p:924491960] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote>As a black man I am legally obligated to say OJ was innocent.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BUMPED2002 07/10/19 11:40:00 AM #29:	Just means he probably paid off the accuser and had a non-disclosure agreement signed. That's what Halle Berry did when Wesley Snipes hit her causing her to lose hearing in her left ear. --- SpankageBros <cite>BUMPED2002 posted [p:924495590] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote>Just means he probably paid off the accuser and had a non-disclosure agreement signed. That's what Halle Berry did when Wesley Snipes hit her causing her to lose hearing in her left ear.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BUMPED2002 07/10/19 11:51:13 AM #30:	EvilMegas posted... As a black man I am legally obligated to say OJ was innocent. Not sure if O.J. is innocent or not but it's a well-known fact that Nicole and Kris Kardashian were heavy coke users and swingers and some have suggested that Nicole's murder was drug-related and Ron Goldman just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time but who knows. O.J. was also a heavy coke user as well. Not sure about Robert Kardashian but they all partied heavy in the 1980s so who knows what caused the murders and who committed them. Supposedly former LA Raider and Kansas City Chief star and former USA Heisman winner Marcus Allen and Nicole had an affair in the 1990s but Allen denies it but O.J. says it's true so again who knows. Nicole was known for having a thing for well hung Black men so there is that. Nicole's friend Faye Resnick said Marcus and Nicole were involved and if that's true, Allen was married at the time. Bottom line is we'll never know the truth about the murders. --- SpankageBros <cite>BUMPED2002 posted [p:924496024] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote><cite>EvilMegas posted...</cite> <quote>As a black man I am legally obligated to say OJ was innocent.</quote> Not sure if O.J. is innocent or not but it's a well-known fact that Nicole and Kris Kardashian were heavy coke users and swingers and some have suggested that Nicole's murder was drug-related and Ron Goldman just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time but who knows. O.J. was also a heavy coke user as well. Not sure about Robert Kardashian but they all partied heavy in the 1980s so who knows what caused the murders and who committed them. Supposedly former LA Raider and Kansas City Chief star and former USA Heisman winner Marcus Allen and Nicole had an affair in the 1990s but Allen denies it but O.J. says it's true so again who knows. Nicole was known for having a thing for well hung Black men so there is that. Nicole's friend Faye Resnick said Marcus and Nicole were involved and if that's true, Allen was married at the time. Bottom line is we'll never know the truth about the murders.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iAmAnOrphan 07/10/19 12:44:31 PM #31:	You're the one who brought up OJ, who was found innocent, to use as an example of someone who shouldn't be afforded due process... and you think I'm the one making it an issue of black vs white... lmao gtfo --- GO TEAM VENTURE! <cite>iAmAnOrphan posted [p:924498245] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote>You're the one who brought up OJ, who was found innocent, to use as an example of someone who shouldn't be afforded due process... and you think I'm the one making it an issue of black vs white... lmao gtfo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bigbadharry 07/10/19 12:46:10 PM #32:	BUMPED2002 posted... EvilMegas posted... As a black man I am legally obligated to say OJ was innocent. Not sure if O.J. is innocent or not but it's a well-known fact that Nicole and Kris Kardashian were heavy coke users and swingers and some have suggested that Nicole's murder was drug-related and Ron Goldman just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time but who knows. O.J. was also a heavy coke user as well. Not sure about Robert Kardashian but they all partied heavy in the 1980s so who knows what caused the murders and who committed them. Supposedly former LA Raider and Kansas City Chief star and former USA Heisman winner Marcus Allen and Nicole had an affair in the 1990s but Allen denies it but O.J. says it's true so again who knows. Nicole was known for having a thing for well hung Black men so there is that. Nicole's friend Faye Resnick said Marcus and Nicole were involved and if that's true, Allen was married at the time. Bottom line is we'll never know the truth about the murders. Baseless speculation. Nah, he had good lawyers, money and the Cops were stupid an ruined an airtight case. --- Arrgh. Is this the end of lovable Igniz? Why!? There was no way I could lose! Why!? Why!? <cite>bigbadharry posted [p:924498326] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote><cite>BUMPED2002 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EvilMegas posted...</cite> <quote>As a black man I am legally obligated to say OJ was innocent.</quote> Not sure if O.J. is innocent or not but it's a well-known fact that Nicole and Kris Kardashian were heavy coke users and swingers and some have suggested that Nicole's murder was drug-related and Ron Goldman just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time but who knows. O.J. was also a heavy coke user as well. Not sure about Robert Kardashian but they all partied heavy in the 1980s so who knows what caused the murders and who committed them. Supposedly former LA Raider and Kansas City Chief star and former USA Heisman winner Marcus Allen and Nicole had an affair in the 1990s but Allen denies it but O.J. says it's true so again who knows. Nicole was known for having a thing for well hung Black men so there is that. Nicole's friend Faye Resnick said Marcus and Nicole were involved and if that's true, Allen was married at the time. Bottom line is we'll never know the truth about the murders.</quote> Baseless speculation. Nah, he had good lawyers, money and the Cops were stupid an ruined an airtight case.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sahuagin 07/10/19 1:23:54 PM #33:	bigbadharry posted... he had good lawyers he didn't have particularly good lawyers (supposed to be that none of them were even murder trial lawyers IIRC). supposed to be that it was caused by just plain incompetence everywhere, particularly the judge and the prosecution, as well as the media frenzy having some effect on the jury (making them believe things that aren't true, like that his lawyers were amazing when they weren't, etc.) iAmAnOrphan posted... Interesting how the exception you note is a black man who was found not guilty... the exception (though it's not really an exception) is a case where the public is especially privy to information from the trial, including evidence that was presented and arguments that were made. but, OJ is not so much an exception to "innocent until proven guilty" as he is "proven guilty yet the jury missed it". --- *The truth basks in scrutiny.* https://imgur.com/GMouTGs http://projecteuler.net/profile/Sahuagin.png <cite>Sahuagin posted [p:924499955] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote><cite>bigbadharry posted...</cite> <quote>he had good lawyers</quote> he didn't have particularly good lawyers (supposed to be that none of them were even murder trial lawyers IIRC). supposed to be that it was caused by just plain incompetence everywhere, particularly the judge and the prosecution, as well as the media frenzy having some effect on the jury (making them believe things that aren't true, like that his lawyers were amazing when they weren't, etc.) <cite>iAmAnOrphan posted...</cite> <quote>Interesting how the exception you note is a black man who was found not guilty... </quote> the exception (though it's not really an exception) is a case where the public is especially privy to information from the trial, including evidence that was presented and arguments that were made. but, OJ is not so much an exception to "innocent until proven guilty" as he is "proven guilty yet the jury missed it".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EvilMegas 07/10/19 1:41:34 PM #34:	Apparently it's offensive to say I have to say OJ is innocent. --- Official King of Black People https://imgur.com/Zk3VS3o http://imgur.com/a/UeQiE https://imgur.com/aSnCUuI <cite>EvilMegas posted [p:924500753] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote>Apparently it's offensive to say I have to say OJ is innocent.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CTLM 07/10/19 1:43:59 PM #35:	Sahuagin posted... bigbadharry posted... he had good lawyers he didn't have particularly good lawyers (supposed to be that none of them were even murder trial lawyers IIRC). supposed to be that it was caused by just plain incompetence everywhere, particularly the judge and the prosecution, as well as the media frenzy having some effect on the jury (making them believe things that aren't true, like that his lawyers were amazing when they weren't, etc.) iAmAnOrphan posted... Interesting how the exception you note is a black man who was found not guilty... the exception (though it's not really an exception) is a case where the public is especially privy to information from the trial, including evidence that was presented and arguments that were made. but, OJ is not so much an exception to "innocent until proven guilty" as he is "proven guilty yet the jury missed it". Not good lawyers? They were called "The Dream Team" for a reason, not just because they were the best money could buy Prosecutors helped the defense? They sure did. Botched investigation, tainted evidence, racist investigator, possibly planted evidence among some of the other problems... yeah, not a surprise he walked Civil case wasn't a shock he was convicted. Only need a preponderance of guilt. That was very easy to see. <cite>CTLM posted [p:924500848] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sahuagin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>bigbadharry posted...</cite> <quote>he had good lawyers</quote> he didn't have particularly good lawyers (supposed to be that none of them were even murder trial lawyers IIRC). supposed to be that it was caused by just plain incompetence everywhere, particularly the judge and the prosecution, as well as the media frenzy having some effect on the jury (making them believe things that aren't true, like that his lawyers were amazing when they weren't, etc.) <cite>iAmAnOrphan posted...</cite> <quote>Interesting how the exception you note is a black man who was found not guilty... </quote> the exception (though it's not really an exception) is a case where the public is especially privy to information from the trial, including evidence that was presented and arguments that were made. but, OJ is not so much an exception to "innocent until proven guilty" as he is "proven guilty yet the jury missed it".</quote> Not good lawyers? They were called "The Dream Team" for a reason, not just because they were the best money could buy Prosecutors helped the defense? They sure did. Botched investigation, tainted evidence, racist investigator, possibly planted evidence among some of the other problems... yeah, not a surprise he walked Civil case wasn't a shock he was convicted. Only need a preponderance of guilt. That was very easy to see.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sahuagin 07/10/19 2:10:39 PM #36:	CTLM posted... Not good lawyers? They were called "The Dream Team" for a reason, not just because they were the best money could buy "the dream team" is just media BS that the public and jury ate up. there was nothing special about his lawyers. none of them were murder trial lawyers and none of them did anything particularly exceptional during the case. it was the inept prosecution that had the biggest effect on the outcome, not anything magical about his lawyers. (but everyone believing that they were impossibly good defense lawyers does have an effect on things.) --- *The truth basks in scrutiny.* https://imgur.com/GMouTGs http://projecteuler.net/profile/Sahuagin.png <cite>Sahuagin posted [p:924501960] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote><cite>CTLM posted...</cite> <quote>Not good lawyers? They were called "The Dream Team" for a reason, not just because they were the best money could buy</quote> "the dream team" is just media BS that the public and jury ate up. there was nothing special about his lawyers. none of them were murder trial lawyers and none of them did anything particularly exceptional during the case. it was the inept prosecution that had the biggest effect on the outcome, not anything magical about his lawyers. (but everyone believing that they were impossibly good defense lawyers does have an effect on things.)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 07/10/19 2:16:57 PM #37:	I like that PotD still takes the bait after all this time. Kyuubi4269 posted... There's a reason why English Common Law is the gold standard for law. "Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth." --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:924502219] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote>I like that PotD still takes the bait after all this time. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>There's a reason why English Common Law is the gold standard for law.</quote> "Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CTLM 07/10/19 2:36:17 PM #38:	Sahuagin posted... CTLM posted... Not good lawyers? They were called "The Dream Team" for a reason, not just because they were the best money could buy "the dream team" is just media BS that the public and jury ate up. there was nothing special about his lawyers. none of them were murder trial lawyers and none of them did anything particularly exceptional during the case. it was the inept prosecution that had the biggest effect on the outcome, not anything magical about his lawyers. (but everyone believing that they were impossibly good defense lawyers does have an effect on things.) I'm guessing you must not have been have been born yet when this trial happened or are too young to know about it. Hopefully you aren't choosing to ignore the truth Nothing special? Read what they did before the trial and after for their careers. They were GOOD. They charged millions and were well respected. It wasn't because they weren't nothing special The prosecution helped hand you a win. Does that make you any less of a good lawyer? If you go to a surgeon who doesn't specialize in wrist surgery but is still among the best in surgery and successfully performed your surgery, does that make him less of a surgeon? That's what you're trying to say about them because they didn't specialize in murder defense So the media coined them dream team. They called the 92 Barcelona basketball team that too. You want you say that wasn't the greatest basketball team ever assembled at once? A name doesn't detract from talent <cite>CTLM posted [p:924503085] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sahuagin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CTLM posted...</cite> <quote>Not good lawyers? They were called "The Dream Team" for a reason, not just because they were the best money could buy</quote> "the dream team" is just media BS that the public and jury ate up. there was nothing special about his lawyers. none of them were murder trial lawyers and none of them did anything particularly exceptional during the case. it was the inept prosecution that had the biggest effect on the outcome, not anything magical about his lawyers. (but everyone believing that they were impossibly good defense lawyers does have an effect on things.)</quote> I'm guessing you must not have been have been born yet when this trial happened or are too young to know about it. Hopefully you aren't choosing to ignore the truth Nothing special? Read what they did before the trial and after for their careers. They were GOOD. They charged millions and were well respected. It wasn't because they weren't nothing special The prosecution helped hand you a win. Does that make you any less of a good lawyer? If you go to a surgeon who doesn't specialize in wrist surgery but is still among the best in surgery and successfully performed your surgery, does that make him less of a surgeon? That's what you're trying to say about them because they didn't specialize in murder defense So the media coined them dream team. They called the 92 Barcelona basketball team that too. You want you say that wasn't the greatest basketball team ever assembled at once? A name doesn't detract from talent</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bigbadharry 07/11/19 8:24:49 AM #39:	CTLM posted... Sahuagin posted... bigbadharry posted... he had good lawyers he didn't have particularly good lawyers (supposed to be that none of them were even murder trial lawyers IIRC). supposed to be that it was caused by just plain incompetence everywhere, particularly the judge and the prosecution, as well as the media frenzy having some effect on the jury (making them believe things that aren't true, like that his lawyers were amazing when they weren't, etc.) iAmAnOrphan posted... Interesting how the exception you note is a black man who was found not guilty... the exception (though it's not really an exception) is a case where the public is especially privy to information from the trial, including evidence that was presented and arguments that were made. but, OJ is not so much an exception to "innocent until proven guilty" as he is "proven guilty yet the jury missed it". Not good lawyers? They were called "The Dream Team" for a reason, not just because they were the best money could buy Prosecutors helped the defense? They sure did. Botched investigation, tainted evidence, racist investigator, possibly planted evidence among some of the other problems... yeah, not a surprise he walked Civil case wasn't a shock he was convicted. Only need a preponderance of guilt. That was very easy to see. This x 100 True dat dawg. --- Arrgh. Is this the end of lovable Igniz? Why!? There was no way I could lose! Why!? Why!? <cite>bigbadharry posted [p:924535514] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote><cite>CTLM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sahuagin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>bigbadharry posted...</cite> <quote>he had good lawyers</quote> he didn't have particularly good lawyers (supposed to be that none of them were even murder trial lawyers IIRC). supposed to be that it was caused by just plain incompetence everywhere, particularly the judge and the prosecution, as well as the media frenzy having some effect on the jury (making them believe things that aren't true, like that his lawyers were amazing when they weren't, etc.) <cite>iAmAnOrphan posted...</cite> <quote>Interesting how the exception you note is a black man who was found not guilty... </quote> the exception (though it's not really an exception) is a case where the public is especially privy to information from the trial, including evidence that was presented and arguments that were made. but, OJ is not so much an exception to "innocent until proven guilty" as he is "proven guilty yet the jury missed it".</quote> Not good lawyers? They were called "The Dream Team" for a reason, not just because they were the best money could buy Prosecutors helped the defense? They sure did. Botched investigation, tainted evidence, racist investigator, possibly planted evidence among some of the other problems... yeah, not a surprise he walked Civil case wasn't a shock he was convicted. Only need a preponderance of guilt. That was very easy to see.</quote> This x 100 True dat dawg.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArvTheGreat 07/11/19 9:34:49 AM #40:	is this them things kinda like "swatting" --- Things are about to get arvified <cite>ArvTheGreat posted [p:924537486] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote>is this them things kinda like "swatting"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 07/11/19 9:43:54 AM #41:	One thing I find very far fetched about the evidence against Simpson are the two bloody gloves the police supposedly found. They were the main piece of physical evidence that tied the crime to him and I just find it hard to imagine that the guy went to the effort to wear gloves while committing the murder, but then just removed one at the scene of the crime, drove home and casually tossed the other just outside of his house in plain enough view that an officer could spot it while doing an outside the home search. Theres also the fact that both the defense and the prosecution agreed that the murders took place between 10:15-10:40pm, but Simpson was picked up at his home by a limousine driver at 10:24pm --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:924537763] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote>One thing I find very far fetched about the evidence against Simpson are the two bloody gloves the police supposedly found. They were the main piece of physical evidence that tied the crime to him and I just find it hard to imagine that the guy went to the effort to wear gloves while committing the murder, but then just removed one at the scene of the crime, drove home and casually tossed the other just outside of his house in plain enough view that an officer could spot it while doing an outside the home search. Theres also the fact that both the defense and the prosecution agreed that the murders took place between 10:15-10:40pm, but Simpson was picked up at his home by a limousine driver at 10:24pm</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 07/11/19 10:43:34 AM #42:	when i read about the kevin spacy thing it seemed like he was just sort of play fighting not grabbing the guy personally but not letting him breathe and obviously getting close to him with stinky alcohol breathe maybe the accuser is too embarrassed to say i dunno --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WErq2CBYTU <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:924539829] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote>when i read about the kevin spacy thing it seemed like he was just sort of play fighting not grabbing the guy personally but not letting him breathe and obviously getting close to him with stinky alcohol breathe maybe the accuser is too embarrassed to say i dunno</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sahuagin 07/11/19 2:02:32 PM #43:	CTLM posted... I'm guessing you must not have been have been born yet when this trial happened or are too young to know about it. Hopefully you aren't choosing to ignore the truth it's something I've read real lawyers' analyses of. CTLM posted... They were GOOD. They charged millions and were well respected. uh-huh... the point is that the attitude that these are some "dream team" of lawyers and that that somehow makes the defense's job so hard is BS. OJ's lawyers didn't do anything amazing. the media creating a narrative of impossibly good defense lawyers does have an effect, making everyone think they're doing an amazing job when they aren't. this biases the jury, making them more ready to accept the defense's arguments than they should be. --- *The truth basks in scrutiny.* https://imgur.com/GMouTGs http://projecteuler.net/profile/Sahuagin.png <cite>Sahuagin posted [p:924547970] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote><cite>CTLM posted...</cite> <quote>I'm guessing you must not have been have been born yet when this trial happened or are too young to know about it. Hopefully you aren't choosing to ignore the truth</quote> it's something I've read real lawyers' analyses of. <cite>CTLM posted...</cite> <quote>They were GOOD. They charged millions and were well respected.</quote> uh-huh... the point is that the attitude that these are some "dream team" of lawyers and that that somehow makes the defense's job so hard is BS. OJ's lawyers didn't do anything amazing. the media creating a narrative of impossibly good defense lawyers does have an effect, making everyone think they're doing an amazing job when they aren't. this biases the jury, making them more ready to accept the defense's arguments than they should be.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CTLM 07/11/19 2:53:32 PM #44:	Sahuagin posted... CTLM posted... I'm guessing you must not have been have been born yet when this trial happened or are too young to know about it. Hopefully you aren't choosing to ignore the truth it's something I've read real lawyers' analyses of. CTLM posted... They were GOOD. They charged millions and were well respected. uh-huh... the point is that the attitude that these are some "dream team" of lawyers and that that somehow makes the defense's job so hard is BS. OJ's lawyers didn't do anything amazing. the media creating a narrative of impossibly good defense lawyers does have an effect, making everyone think they're doing an amazing job when they aren't. this biases the jury, making them more ready to accept the defense's arguments than they should be. So you think they did nothing? You think they just sat around and laughed, playing on their gameboys all day? It's not like they didn't use every advantage they were handed. It isn't as though the prosecution was such so incompetent that they had to declare a mistrial. The defense did their jobs, putting on a show at numerous points (everybody remembers the glove speech) and OJ got to walk away a free man. They convinced the most important people at that time of his innocence: the jury. I don't know what you use or how you gauge the level of amazing defense but last time I checked, when you're being accused of a double homicide and you're a free man? That's pretty amazing. Especially when so many people believe you're guilty <cite>CTLM posted [p:924550167] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sahuagin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CTLM posted...</cite> <quote>I'm guessing you must not have been have been born yet when this trial happened or are too young to know about it. Hopefully you aren't choosing to ignore the truth</quote> it's something I've read real lawyers' analyses of. <cite>CTLM posted...</cite> <quote>They were GOOD. They charged millions and were well respected.</quote> uh-huh... the point is that the attitude that these are some "dream team" of lawyers and that that somehow makes the defense's job so hard is BS. OJ's lawyers didn't do anything amazing. the media creating a narrative of impossibly good defense lawyers does have an effect, making everyone think they're doing an amazing job when they aren't. this biases the jury, making them more ready to accept the defense's arguments than they should be.</quote> So you think they did nothing? You think they just sat around and laughed, playing on their gameboys all day? It's not like they didn't use every advantage they were handed. It isn't as though the prosecution was such so incompetent that they had to declare a mistrial. The defense did their jobs, putting on a show at numerous points (everybody remembers the glove speech) and OJ got to walk away a free man. They convinced the most important people at that time of his innocence: the jury. I don't know what you use or how you gauge the level of amazing defense but last time I checked, when you're being accused of a double homicide and you're a free man? That's pretty amazing. Especially when so many people believe you're guilty</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 07/11/19 5:56:13 PM #45:	CTLM posted... Sahuagin posted... CTLM posted... I'm guessing you must not have been have been born yet when this trial happened or are too young to know about it. Hopefully you aren't choosing to ignore the truth it's something I've read real lawyers' analyses of. CTLM posted... They were GOOD. They charged millions and were well respected. uh-huh... the point is that the attitude that these are some "dream team" of lawyers and that that somehow makes the defense's job so hard is BS. OJ's lawyers didn't do anything amazing. the media creating a narrative of impossibly good defense lawyers does have an effect, making everyone think they're doing an amazing job when they aren't. this biases the jury, making them more ready to accept the defense's arguments than they should be. So you think they did nothing? You think they just sat around and laughed, playing on their gameboys all day? It's not like they didn't use every advantage they were handed. It isn't as though the prosecution was such so incompetent that they had to declare a mistrial. The defense did their jobs, putting on a show at numerous points (everybody remembers the glove speech) and OJ got to walk away a free man. They convinced the most important people at that time of his innocence: the jury. I don't know what you use or how you gauge the level of amazing defense but last time I checked, when you're being accused of a double homicide and you're a free man? That's pretty amazing. Especially when so many people believe you're guilty OJ got judged by an all black jury he lost the civil suite and had to pay the family members millions of dollars they knew he was guilty https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj8i-fuh61o" data-time=" --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WErq2CBYTU <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:924557845] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote><cite>CTLM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sahuagin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CTLM posted...</cite> <quote>I'm guessing you must not have been have been born yet when this trial happened or are too young to know about it. Hopefully you aren't choosing to ignore the truth</quote> it's something I've read real lawyers' analyses of. <cite>CTLM posted...</cite> <quote>They were GOOD. They charged millions and were well respected.</quote> uh-huh... the point is that the attitude that these are some "dream team" of lawyers and that that somehow makes the defense's job so hard is BS. OJ's lawyers didn't do anything amazing. the media creating a narrative of impossibly good defense lawyers does have an effect, making everyone think they're doing an amazing job when they aren't. this biases the jury, making them more ready to accept the defense's arguments than they should be.</quote> So you think they did nothing? You think they just sat around and laughed, playing on their gameboys all day? It's not like they didn't use every advantage they were handed. It isn't as though the prosecution was such so incompetent that they had to declare a mistrial. The defense did their jobs, putting on a show at numerous points (everybody remembers the glove speech) and OJ got to walk away a free man. They convinced the most important people at that time of his innocence: the jury. I don't know what you use or how you gauge the level of amazing defense but last time I checked, when you're being accused of a double homicide and you're a free man? That's pretty amazing. Especially when so many people believe you're guilty</quote> OJ got judged by an all black jury he lost the civil suite and had to pay the family members millions of dollars they knew he was guilty https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj8i-fuh61o" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssj4supervegeta 07/11/19 6:15:14 PM #46:	Nah dude he's really gay. He admitted it and everything, it was crazy. --- LoL summoner: Vejitables Wanna know why me rogers so jolly? hehe <cite>ssj4supervegeta posted [p:924558576] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote>Nah dude he's really gay. He admitted it and everything, it was crazy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CTLM 07/11/19 6:23:06 PM #47:	RoboXgp89 posted... CTLM posted... Sahuagin posted... CTLM posted... I'm guessing you must not have been have been born yet when this trial happened or are too young to know about it. Hopefully you aren't choosing to ignore the truth it's something I've read real lawyers' analyses of. CTLM posted... They were GOOD. They charged millions and were well respected. uh-huh... the point is that the attitude that these are some "dream team" of lawyers and that that somehow makes the defense's job so hard is BS. OJ's lawyers didn't do anything amazing. the media creating a narrative of impossibly good defense lawyers does have an effect, making everyone think they're doing an amazing job when they aren't. this biases the jury, making them more ready to accept the defense's arguments than they should be. So you think they did nothing? You think they just sat around and laughed, playing on their gameboys all day? It's not like they didn't use every advantage they were handed. It isn't as though the prosecution was such so incompetent that they had to declare a mistrial. The defense did their jobs, putting on a show at numerous points (everybody remembers the glove speech) and OJ got to walk away a free man. They convinced the most important people at that time of his innocence: the jury. I don't know what you use or how you gauge the level of amazing defense but last time I checked, when you're being accused of a double homicide and you're a free man? That's pretty amazing. Especially when so many people believe you're guilty OJ got judged by an all black jury he lost the civil suite and had to pay the family members millions of dollars they knew he was guilty https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj8i-fuh61o" data-time=" All black? Jury Composition was: By Race: 9 Blacks, 1 Hispanics, 2 Whites The Jury By Sex: 10 Women, 2 Men The Jury By Education: 2 College Graduates, 9 High School Graduates, 1 Without Diploma <cite>CTLM posted [p:924558901] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CTLM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sahuagin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CTLM posted...</cite> <quote>I'm guessing you must not have been have been born yet when this trial happened or are too young to know about it. Hopefully you aren't choosing to ignore the truth</quote> it's something I've read real lawyers' analyses of. <cite>CTLM posted...</cite> <quote>They were GOOD. They charged millions and were well respected.</quote> uh-huh... the point is that the attitude that these are some "dream team" of lawyers and that that somehow makes the defense's job so hard is BS. OJ's lawyers didn't do anything amazing. the media creating a narrative of impossibly good defense lawyers does have an effect, making everyone think they're doing an amazing job when they aren't. this biases the jury, making them more ready to accept the defense's arguments than they should be.</quote> So you think they did nothing? You think they just sat around and laughed, playing on their gameboys all day? It's not like they didn't use every advantage they were handed. It isn't as though the prosecution was such so incompetent that they had to declare a mistrial. The defense did their jobs, putting on a show at numerous points (everybody remembers the glove speech) and OJ got to walk away a free man. They convinced the most important people at that time of his innocence: the jury. I don't know what you use or how you gauge the level of amazing defense but last time I checked, when you're being accused of a double homicide and you're a free man? That's pretty amazing. Especially when so many people believe you're guilty</quote> OJ got judged by an all black jury he lost the civil suite and had to pay the family members millions of dollars they knew he was guilty https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj8i-fuh61o" data-time="</quote> All black? Jury Composition was: By Race: 9 Blacks, 1 Hispanics, 2 Whites The Jury By Sex: 10 Women, 2 Men The Jury By Education: 2 College Graduates, 9 High School Graduates, 1 Without Diploma</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sahuagin 07/12/19 12:26:28 AM #48:	CTLM posted... So you think they did nothing? no... geez. they were nothing special. they were at best competent. --- *The truth basks in scrutiny.* https://imgur.com/GMouTGs http://projecteuler.net/profile/Sahuagin.png <cite>Sahuagin posted [p:924572669] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote><cite>CTLM posted...</cite> <quote>So you think they did nothing?</quote> no... geez. they were nothing special. they were at best competent.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 07/12/19 11:21:10 AM #49:	CTLM posted... Sahuagin posted... CTLM posted... I'm guessing you must not have been have been born yet when this trial happened or are too young to know about it. Hopefully you aren't choosing to ignore the truth it's something I've read real lawyers' analyses of. CTLM posted... They were GOOD. They charged millions and were well respected. uh-huh... the point is that the attitude that these are some "dream team" of lawyers and that that somehow makes the defense's job so hard is BS. OJ's lawyers didn't do anything amazing. the media creating a narrative of impossibly good defense lawyers does have an effect, making everyone think they're doing an amazing job when they aren't. this biases the jury, making them more ready to accept the defense's arguments than they should be. So you think they did nothing? You think they just sat around and laughed, playing on their gameboys all day? It's not like they didn't use every advantage they were handed. It isn't as though the prosecution was such so incompetent that they had to declare a mistrial. The defense did their jobs, putting on a show at numerous points (everybody remembers the glove speech) and OJ got to walk away a free man. They convinced the most important people at that time of his innocence: the jury. I don't know what you use or how you gauge the level of amazing defense but last time I checked, when you're being accused of a double homicide and you're a free man? That's pretty amazing. Especially when so many people believe you're guilty evidence was handled like shit at the scene. the glove didn't fit because it was stored improperly, and the blood caused the leather to shrink --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:924586829] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote><cite>CTLM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sahuagin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CTLM posted...</cite> <quote>I'm guessing you must not have been have been born yet when this trial happened or are too young to know about it. Hopefully you aren't choosing to ignore the truth</quote> it's something I've read real lawyers' analyses of. <cite>CTLM posted...</cite> <quote>They were GOOD. They charged millions and were well respected.</quote> uh-huh... the point is that the attitude that these are some "dream team" of lawyers and that that somehow makes the defense's job so hard is BS. OJ's lawyers didn't do anything amazing. the media creating a narrative of impossibly good defense lawyers does have an effect, making everyone think they're doing an amazing job when they aren't. this biases the jury, making them more ready to accept the defense's arguments than they should be.</quote> So you think they did nothing? You think they just sat around and laughed, playing on their gameboys all day? It's not like they didn't use every advantage they were handed. It isn't as though the prosecution was such so incompetent that they had to declare a mistrial. The defense did their jobs, putting on a show at numerous points (everybody remembers the glove speech) and OJ got to walk away a free man. They convinced the most important people at that time of his innocence: the jury. I don't know what you use or how you gauge the level of amazing defense but last time I checked, when you're being accused of a double homicide and you're a free man? That's pretty amazing. Especially when so many people believe you're guilty</quote> evidence was handled like shit at the scene. the glove didn't fit because it was stored improperly, and the blood caused the leather to shrink</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rooster_Sucker 07/17/19 5:02:40 PM #50:	Prosecutors dropped the case. I guess he's innocent in this instance at least. https://boston.cbslocal.com/2019/07/17/kevin-spacey-nantucket-assault-charge-case/ --- Kick Rocks <cite>Rooster_Sucker posted [p:924823118] in Is Kevin S... [t:77850945]...</cite> <quote>Prosecutors dropped the case. I guess he's innocent in this instance at least. https://boston.cbslocal.com/2019/07/17/kevin-spacey-nantucket-assault-charge-case/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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