Poll of the Day > Should I play Red Dead Redemption 2

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Mead posted...

If youre looking for a legendary bear I made a hat out of it

If you like unique hats there might be one time you dont mind getting into trouble with the law. Dude in valentine has a coon skin cap. Beat the shit out of him and steal it. It takes awhike to put him down though. I managed to not get a bounty fighting him but everyone ive talked to says they did.
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Im not looking for a legendary bear

Just Gavin.

Gavin!

Has anybody seen Gavin?

MICHALECOLE posted...

Mead posted...

Also this dude got really filthy, really quickly. I had to pay for a bath

Did you pay for the deluxe bath?

That is one of my only complaints about the game.. I want to fuck people.

So does that swamp hillbilly in the shack.
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I stuck with the regular bath, my fifty cents was more precious to me
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Mead posted...

I stuck with the regular bath, my fifty cents was more precious to me

Shoulda got the deluxe bath dude

The way that Arthur skins rabbits and raccoons
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Mead posted...

The way that Arthur skins rabbits and raccoons

Rabbits can be skinned fairly easily like that. Not so much a raccoon.
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So this challenge wants me to shoot birds from a moving train

But jumping on a train is just illegal? I even bought a train ticket and stayed on to shoot birds but I guess thats a crime too? Had to pay a $52 fine for shooting a bird from the train

This entire game is illegal
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I guess I just need to save up enough to build my own railroad and buy my own train where freedom is allowed
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Okay so it turns out being wanted and having a bounty are totally different things

The game could have done a better job explaining that
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Also hog tying people is the funnest thing in this game

I had to catch a thief who gave me the stolen money in exchange for letting him go so after taking the money I just hogtied him and brought him back to the questgiver
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Mead posted...

Also hog tying people is the funnest thing in this game

I had to catch a thief who gave me the stolen money in exchange for letting him go so after taking the money I just hogtied him and brought him back to the questgiver

You can hogtie someone and put em on the train tracks.

Also you can kill witnesses to prevent being wanted or getting a bounty. Careful though ive ended up with a hefty pile of corpses cause people kept showing up and being a witness
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I did the tomahawk challenge by just hogtying up an enemy gang member and throwing it at him from a distance. Was very satisfying.
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Mead posted...

I did the tomahawk challenge by just hogtying up an enemy gang member and throwing it at him from a distance. Was very satisfying.

Ive never even thrown a tomahawk in the game come to think of it
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Wow, you guys sure put a lot of hours into a shit game.
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This game has totally won me over at this point

Im having fun just exploring and trying to find all the legendary animals and fish without using any guides
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My experience with RDR2 was like eating a Peanut Buster at DQ. It's a great mix, well made, taste great, but after a while, it's just too much peanuts.

Great game. Well worth the price.
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Ugh this gambler challenge where I have to win 3 blackjack hands with 3 or more hits each

Its gonna take forever
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So the pacing of this game can be kinda weird

Hey Arthur cmon were gonna go rob a bank!

15 minutes later Im fighting the Cuban government on a tropical island in the Caribbean

And then its back to business as usual
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Damn dude you flew through that game. Took me months to get to where you are, but Im terrible at just playing for hours and doing literally nothing

I spend a lot of time hunting and trying to do the challenges
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Yeah well I spend hours getting carriages and then delivering them to the fence and then seeing a deer and chasing it and then running over a person and then spending the money that I just earned at the fence to pay off my warrant and then next thing I know two hours have passed

I dont even pay my bounties, bounty hunters carry a lot of pocket watches
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Mead posted...

Okay so it turns out being wanted and having a bounty are totally different things

The game could have done a better job explaining that

They probably assumed you're one of the millions of people who played GTA V/GTA Online and already knew that.

But the "tutorials" are kind of awkwardly established in general, IMO. For half of them they're still spooling out info hours after I actually needed to know it, because it came up in earlier missions or in freeroam.

It kind of feels like the first few missions should have been more linear than they were, and that being able to choose your own missions or just wander on your own should have been held off until they were done showing you new game features.



mooreandrew58 posted...

Fortunately I predicted the ending. Not the hows or the why's though. It being a prequel kinda made it not hard to figure out.

I feel like anyone who played RDR1 knew exactly how this game was going to end, at least in broad strokes. There was no way Arthur was going to survive. Which is ironic - because it was so blatantly obvious, the real twist would have been for him to escape somehow, and get something resembling his own little happily ever after somewhere. Or maybe at least make it a possibility, where how you play determines whether you get the ending where he lives or the one where he dies.

And yes, I know there are multiple endings. But he dies in all of them.


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mooreandrew58 posted...

True. Fortunately THAT didnt get spoiled for me. Well one thing sorta TB

It didn't get spoiled for me (at first - I kind of wiki-spoiled myself after), but I absolutely hate that premise.

It's mostly because of how ham-fisted the game is about it. The very first cutscene that the dude was in coughing, I was like "Holy fuck, I need to stay away from this guy." I'm sorry, I've seen Tombstone (and I know you have too, Rockstar), so I get that this guy blatantly has TB. Then I get the mission to go rough him up to get him to pay off his debt, and I'm like "Hell no, I want to stay as far away from him as I can." So I talk to him (because I don't really have a choice), and it forces me into close quarters.

Then it gives me the option to either threaten or beat, and I just keep picking threaten (partly because I know that can succeed - I've already collected on a mission like this just via threats, because I'm playing Arthur more as a relatively nice guy who only occasionally does bad things, so he doesn't immediately resort to beating the shit out of everyone he meets). And the game ignores me, eventually pushing me into having to hit him. And I'm like "Son of a bitch", because I've already picked up on what they're doing. And then he spits on me and I'm like "GOD DAMN IT". And then shortly after I wind up doing a mission with Javier and Arthur has a little cough, and I'm like "YOU MOTHERFUCKERS".

It's worse for me because Arthur actually lives in the time period where people KNOW TB is a thing, and that it's basically an incurable death sentence. I don't care how much money the dude owes you, you'd think Arthur would be slightly more self-aware about the guy who is literally coughing every single time you see him. I hate when a game which pretends to take your choices into account (at least to some degree) forces you into the stupidest choice possible solely because the writers decided they were artistes and their "genius" vision requires you to die of illness to counterpoint the futility of violence and how it doesn't solve everything. True art is suffering! I GET IT, YOU WANT TO PRETEND TO BE DEEP.

But I still picked the Deathwish option in GTAV's ending, because fuck you.

Other than that, it's kind of annoying how certain things wind up being super-telegraphed. Like how I knew Micah was going to be a massive problem about 30 seconds after meeting him, and it's like "Okay, so this is the final boss fight because I can't kill Dutch, isn't it?"

I feel like it's also kind of annoying how they wrote John's character, because it feels like it kind of shits on his characterization from the first game a bit. But that's more of a minor issue.


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ParanoidObsessive posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

True. Fortunately THAT didnt get spoiled for me. Well one thing sorta TB

It didn't get spoiled for me (at first - I kind of wiki-spoiled myself after), but I absolutely hate that premise.

It's mostly because of how ham-fisted the game is about it. The very first cutscene that the dude was in coughing, I was like "Holy fuck, I need to stay away from this guy." I'm sorry, I've seen Tombstone (and I know you have too, Rockstar), so I get that this guy blatantly has TB. Then I get the mission to go rough him up to get him to pay off his debt, and I'm like "Hell no, I want to stay as far away from him as I can." So I talk to him (because I don't really have a choice), and it forces me into close quarters.

Then it gives me the option to either threaten or beat, and I just keep picking threaten (partly because I know that can succeed - I've already collected on a mission like this just via threats, because I'm playing Arthur more as a relatively nice guy who only occasionally does bad things, so he doesn't immediately resort to beating the shit out of everyone he meets). And the game ignores me, eventually pushing me into having to hit him. And I'm like "Son of a bitch", because I've already picked up on what they're doing. And then he spits on me and I'm like "GOD DAMN IT". And then shortly after I wind up doing a mission with Javier and Arthur has a little cough, and I'm like "YOU MOTHERFUCKERS".

It's worse for me because Arthur actually lives in the time period where people KNOW TB is a thing, and that it's basically an incurable death sentence. I don't care how much money the dude owes you, you'd think Arthur would be slightly more self-aware about the guy who is literally coughing every single time you see him. I hate when a game which pretends to take your choices into account (at least to some degree) forces you into the stupidest choice possible solely because the writers decided they were artistes and their "genius" vision requires you to die of illness to counterpoint the futility of violence and how it doesn't solve everything. True art is suffering! I GET IT, YOU WANT TO PRETEND TO BE DEEP.

But I still picked the Deathwish option in GTAV's ending, because fuck you.

Other than that, it's kind of annoying how certain things wind up being super-telegraphed. Like how I knew Micah was going to be a massive problem about 30 seconds after meeting him, and it's like "Okay, so this is the final boss fight because I can't kill Dutch, isn't it?"

I feel like it's also kind of annoying how they wrote John's character, because it feels like it kind of shits on his characterization from the first game a bit. But that's more of a minor issue.

Idk arthur and lot being bandits it could come off as they where on the dumb side since most where raised in the gang. So things that where common knowledge to others may have not been for them. I mean honestly I dont think much of it when I hear a person cough cause I do a bit as someone whos smoked 16 years.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Mead posted...

Okay so it turns out being wanted and having a bounty are totally different things

The game could have done a better job explaining that

They probably assumed you're one of the millions of people who played GTA V/GTA Online and already knew that.

But the "tutorials" are kind of awkwardly established in general, IMO. For half of them they're still spooling out info hours after I actually needed to know it, because it came up in earlier missions or in freeroam.

It kind of feels like the first few missions should have been more linear than they were, and that being able to choose your own missions or just wander on your own should have been held off until they were done showing you new game features.

mooreandrew58 posted...

Fortunately I predicted the ending. Not the hows or the why's though. It being a prequel kinda made it not hard to figure out.

I feel like anyone who played RDR1 knew exactly how this game was going to end, at least in broad strokes. There was no way Arthur was going to survive. Which is ironic - because it was so blatantly obvious, the real twist would have been for him to escape somehow, and get something resembling his own little happily ever after somewhere. Or maybe at least make it a possibility, where how you play determines whether you get the ending where he lives or the one where he dies.

And yes, I know there are multiple endings. But he dies in all of them.

I still need to see the other endings. But yeah as said the first game kinda made it obvious. Though i assumed everyone but John Bill Dutch and javier would die. And thats not the case.
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"Just one more big score Arthur. We need more money."

Asshole, I just donated like the equivalent of 1 million modern dollar to this shitty camp.
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The_tall_midget posted...

"Just one more big score Arthur. We need more money."

Asshole, I just donated like the equivalent of 1 million modern dollar to this shitty camp.

Yeah and grimshaw would piss me off I got all the upgrades to the camp I cared about and even then donated several hundred more dollars. 2 fucking dats go by where I didnt donate and shes chewing my ass out. Another time it was like chaoter 3 I think i decided to stick around camp for the day and do chores and listen to interactions. First time not just riding out immediately to do stuff and she chews me out for being lazy or something. I get why some of the women talked about killing her lol.
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mooreandrew58 posted...

Idk arthur and lot being bandits it could come off as they where on the dumb side since most where raised in the gang. So things that where common knowledge to others may have not been for them.

It was pretty well-known at the time, though (especially since it was in the process of being discovered and categorized shortly prior to this, meaning it would have been in the papers fairly often in recent memory). Even more so because it would be of interest to them because a noted figure in the West of the era (Doc Holliday) was openly diagnosed with and eventually died of it.

No one in the camp is a complete moron (it's pretty clear most of them can read, if nothing else), and most of them (apart from ones like Bill or Uncle) seem relatively well-educated by the standards of the day, at least in the sense that they can interact with people in civilization (when they're not wanted by the law) and would understand that TB is a thing. They might not CALL it TB - they might call it "consumption", or call someone who has it a "lunger" - but they should absolutely be aware of it.

But even aside from all that, when someone looks like they're half corpse and they're hacking up bits of lung and blood from constantly phlegmy coughing, I'm probably staying the fuck away from them, even if I don't know what they might have. Because whatever it is, I don't want it.

mooreandrew58 posted...

I mean honestly I dont think much of it when I hear a person cough cause I do a bit as someone whos smoked 16 years.

You also didn't grow up in a world where TB is as big a thing as it was prior to 1900 or so.

Infection rates radically decreased once the disease was fully understood and methods of preventing infection became available, and infection rates decreased even more once vaccines to prevent it came into use. As a kid my generation definitely got mandatory vaccinations as part of going to public school, which reduced any real exposure to it as a concept even more (and ironically, the only time TB ever really got discussed as a potential problem was in the context of immigrant kids from countries that didn't vaccinate, who might thus get sick from it and potentially be a problem for others).

On the flip-side, I literally cannot imagine someone growing up today (or even slightly earlier than today) growing up and having no idea that AIDS exists. You might not be entirely sure of the symptoms, or the exact details of transmission, but you've almost certainly heard of it. It was in the news constantly in the 80s and early 90s, until even relatively isolated people would have been exposed to some awareness of it.

And AIDS is a disease that is relatively subtle about its symptoms until late-stage (which is part of what makes infection much more likely - you can be infected by someone with no visible symptoms). It's also currently treatable (more or less) and somewhat preventable - which is why panic over it has dropped to record lows. But fear of AIDS - and thus, discussion of AIDS - used to be much higher. And it likely still is in places like Africa, where infection rates are much higher, symptoms are likely more obvious, and medical treatment is less available. All of which makes it much closer to what TB was in the late 1800s.

I would expect any bandit group in Africa today to have at least some awareness of what AIDS is, except maybe in the most isolated tribes. I would expect most bandits in the dying days of the American West to be aware of what TB is.


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Hunting small birds is really annoying

Like Im trying to do the hunting requests and you have just a few seconds to shoot them when they pop out of a tree and then they disappear into the sky

I need to get a Robin, I shot one in the Southwest part of the map but that awakened what seemed to be the ODriscoll base prime or something and by the time I killed them all the damn birds body was gone
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to paranoid (text limit so I didnt quote)

And yet both diseases spread well enough. Im not saying arthur didnt know about. Just not being a man of enough of enough smarts to see and recognize it right off hand. Or was just so preocupied with his task he didnt think about it. Which i can see as he hated doing that sorta thing so he was already pissed off. Also ive met plenty who dont actively avoid sick people. Idk if its cause they dont realize how easily it spreads or have a "it wont happen to me" mentality. But both kinds exist.
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Mead posted...

Or is it bad

Whats good Mead?
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blackhrt posted...

Mead posted...

Or is it bad

Whats good Mead?

This game for sure

I really enjoyed God of War, Spiderman, and Assassins Creed Odyssey, but I think this is my favorite game from last year
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Im I dont even know how many hours into the epilogue

This game forgot to end
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Mead posted...

Im I dont even know how many hours into the epilogue

This game forgot to end

If you dont mind playing a older game play rdr1 after this if youve never played it before. Thats what the epilogue is pretty much leading into.

Even if not the final mission is tied to this games maim story enough its still worth doing.
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I played the heck out of the first red dead redemption for a good month or so back when it first came out

That was a long time ago though so I dont really remember it super well
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I do love by the end johns farm is almost a picture perfect recreation (better graphics of course) as it was in thr first game. Think there is one added thing that wasnt in the first. Wanna say a chicken coop but I dont remember.

If you at least remember the basic plot and how the first ended the end of this (minor scenes that show during the credits) is a nice touch. It's more emotional when you already know what happens
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One thing I did take note of was when playing as Marston and walking out of the barn for the first time, I was like oh damn this is where he dies
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Mead posted...

One thing I did take note of was when playing as Marston and walking out of the barn for the first time, I was like oh damn this is where he dies

Yeah the game was more about arthur but at the end of it, it seems like it was just as much a story arc for John. Seeing him come from weakingly that can barely survive without help to what he is in the first game.
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