Board 8 > English Literature Mafia Topic 12: Character Development for Delseban

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DoomTheGyarados
06/25/19 9:31:17 AM
#1:


Playerlist (15 alive)
1. Pezloco
2. UltimaterializerX
3. Lea3Lea
4. Benjamin
5. SBell (Obellisk)
6. Camarija
7. MZero
8. 5tarscream
9. Hbthebattle
10. Death (HtaeD)
11. Tom Bombadil
12. Lopen
13. turbopuns3
14. Corrik
15. Lolo_Guru

Deadlist (6 dead)

LD1 - Luis_Sera aka The One Ring (Lord of the Rings), MAFIA Redirector
KN1 - Scarechan (replaced eaedwards) aka J.D. Salinger (as portrayed on BoJack Horseman), TOWN Villager
LD2 - Red13n aka Nyarlathotep (H.P. Lovecraft), MAFIA Backup
MKN2 - TheSultanOfSlam aka Atticus Finch (To Kill A Mockingbird), TOWN Mayor
KN2 - Dowolf aka Piggy (Lord of the Flies), TOWN Kingmaker
KN2 - Sir Chris aka g (the English alphabet), TOWN Villager

With 15 players alive, it takes 8 votes to reach a majority. Day will end on Wednesday, June 26th at 9PM EDT or if majority is reached ahead of time.
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5tarscream
06/25/19 9:35:05 AM
#2:


I still cant believe the mayor got himself modkilled. Ho hum.

Posting again for SBell.

SBell, why is MZero scum other than him being basically afk.
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HanOfTheNekos
06/25/19 9:36:48 AM
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Votals (as of post 1)
(4) SBell: Puns, MZero, (Ben), (Lea), Lopen, Tom
(3) MZero: (Lea), (Ben), (5tar), Ulti, Lea, Ben
(1) Lea: (Tom), Hb
(1) Tom: (Lopen), Cam
(0) Ben: (Lopen)
(0) Hb: (Lopen)

With 15 players alive, it takes 8 votes to reach a majority. Day will end on Wednesday, June 26th at 9PM EDT or if majority is reached ahead of time.

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htaeD
06/25/19 9:37:55 AM
#4:


Chris is still alive in our hearts.
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Corrik7
06/25/19 9:38:35 AM
#5:


5tarscream posted...
I still cant believe the mayor got himself modkilled. Ho hum.

Posting again for SBell.

SBell, why is MZero scum other than him being basically afk.

I can answer this.
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Obellisk
06/25/19 9:48:49 AM
#6:


5tarscream posted...
I still cant believe the mayor got himself modkilled. Ho hum.

Posting again for SBell.

SBell, why is MZero scum other than him being basically afk.


Corrik7 posted...
5tarscream posted...
I still cant believe the mayor got himself modkilled. Ho hum.

Posting again for SBell.

SBell, why is MZero scum other than him being basically afk.

I can answer this.


By all means.

5tar, my personal representative will be handling all of the questions directed at me this morning.
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Tom Bombadil
06/25/19 9:54:45 AM
#7:


htaeD posted...
It feels more like a kill an independent would make. Sure there could also be a poison at work.
But I dont recall any poisoner ever not telling the player they were poisoned.


Does it? Dowolf was mostly accepted as town. I also don't remember poison informing the target but I am also not sure I've actually seen it used in board mafia. Still not super interested in worrying too much about SK vs. Poisoner vs. Vig vs. Whatever else yet. But since I am worrying about it anyway I think Poisoner adds up better than SK so far.

htaeD posted...
Though Pez did think red was town for his better quality posts. So his roommate powers


why does everybody keep lumping red into this? Red's just a dude we've played with a bunch.

Corrik7 posted...
I think where you lose me a lot is that your read is a gut reading and you try to find a way to justify it, which can result in some very illogical arguments. (Ex: Town Vanilla argument, red threatening argument). This causes me to doubt you and fight back against your logic and ultimately all your reads.

However, your gut seems to be right a good bit and that can be an asset. Let's try to work together. We can try to employ your gut feelings and anything I can contribute together to get things done.


wow lopen he's stealing our bit are you gonna take that

htaeD posted...
HB I am iffy on.


this seems odd to me because most of your ISO makes him look p bad

htaeD posted...
He starts day2 saying he never suspected red day1, when I am pretty sure he at least once stated that he no longer thought red was certain town before day2.


there's a pretty big spectrum between "suspect" and "think is town"

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Obellisk
06/25/19 9:54:50 AM
#8:


Let the MZero11 iso begin. (i am not swamped at the office at the moment)

MZero11 posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
Corrik7 posted...
Camarija, are you Vanilla Townie?

The opening posts say vanillas are villagers this game, not townies.


Why didn't you let Camarija answer this?

Also nice to meet you Camarija


First post says a lot here.

Acting like Corrik's question at the very beginning of the game would actually hold merit when we all know from the opening mandatory reading that its a moot point. Portrays a town slant while really being pointless, MZero is not pointless.

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Tom Bombadil
06/25/19 9:54:51 AM
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5tarscream posted...

I think a concern I have about Tom being scum again was that he was literally caught changing his style by pez and tried to change back to his town style last game but it was too late and death got him.

Based on that he'd know not to make that slip out the gate especially with pez in the game again. It's sort of a lose-lose situation for Tom. He's either actually town or he's scum and knows how to hide that tell. That's why I feel looking at Tom's style this game is pointless.


If I was able to override my scumtell of inactivity and apathy, I would've done it by now after getting lynched for it about 50 times

5tarscream posted...
I feel like scum Tom's biggest fear would be a town pez.


this is true

Corrik7 posted...
Why would they ever lie about their flavor with a flavor scanner.

It makes absolutely zero sense.


...which brings me back to "why don't we just mass flavor claim" which I don't think got any traction but nobody ever really explained why

Willing to buy the scan on Ulti for now :\ Curious what the dude himself has to say about it tho.

Did I miss the lightning rod claim?

last night I dreamed this was suikoden mafia and Han linked me to my flavor except the whole scumboard and all the PMs were just on the unused gamefaqs board he linked so I poked around and saw the setup and got modkilled for it
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5tarscream
06/25/19 9:54:52 AM
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That kind of defeats the purpose of asking the question.

Ok so who do you think looks worse if we lynch MZero and he flips scum. Who do you have linked to that lynch and likewise if he flips town.
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Camarija
06/25/19 10:00:40 AM
#11:


hehe @Corrik7

Corrik7 posted...
Perhaps while we are at it. What would be the sinister evils of English literature?

Stephen King novels.
Voldemort from Harry Potter *cough*
What else?
Baron Harkonnen?
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Obellisk
06/25/19 10:01:30 AM
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MZero ISO Continued...

Through Page 5, Lea is on MZero's case for asking a question and not following up on it. I agree with the assessment that it looks like feigned activity. You are just asking so it appears like you are scum hunting, the answer doesn't matter because you already know it has no bearing on your hunting, since you aren't actually hunting.

+1 Scum Point

Cam claims that MZero's responses to Lea lead him to believe that MZero = TOWN.

(MZero's opening post which looks like scum, he also introduces himself to Cam, this felt fake. Has Cam been Town cleared by a claim or by anyones scans? I'd hate to try linking these two as scummates foolishly.)
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5tarscream
06/25/19 10:02:07 AM
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5tarscream posted...
That kind of defeats the purpose of asking the question.

Ok so who do you think looks worse if we lynch MZero and he flips scum. Who do you have linked to that lynch and likewise if he flips town.


My wording here isnt very good.
Who do you have linked to MZero as scum buddies that if he flipped scum youd be like ok that confirms x is scum too. Same for if he flips town.
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Obellisk
06/25/19 10:03:53 AM
#14:


Camarija posted...
Lea3Lea posted...
Camarija posted...
MZero11 posted...
Camarija I said nice to meet you and you ignored it :(

Haha sorry I missed it!

Nice to meet you too mate!

I feel like you're getting sucked into a forced argument somewhere with Lea there

I'll call it never Mafia/Mafia at minimum and leave it there


Never?!?!


Do you normally open with wolf theater that hard and fast?

I normally see wolf theater mid game

This doesn't feel like pillow fights, it feels like you've got a bone to pick and MKZero is trying to swat the annoying rhetoric

So yeah, it feels never Mafia/Mafia


This post, Topic 1, Page 6.

Feels as though Cam knows that Lea / MZero is 100% 1 Town / 1 Mafia.
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5tarscream
06/25/19 10:03:57 AM
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Cam has a heavy town read from a lot of people but nothing is confirmed yet. Plus he still thinks Im scum and bussed red because hes Cam and thats how his brain works.
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Obellisk
06/25/19 10:04:29 AM
#16:


5tarscream posted...
Cam has a heavy town read from a lot of people but nothing is confirmed yet. Plus he still thinks Im scum and bussed red because hes Cam and thats how his brain works.


But you are claimed power that damned scum...
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Camarija
06/25/19 10:04:42 AM
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Obellisk posted...
MZero ISO Continued...

Through Page 5, Lea is on MZero's case for asking a question and not following up on it. I agree with the assessment that it looks like feigned activity. You are just asking so it appears like you are scum hunting, the answer doesn't matter because you already know it has no bearing on your hunting, since you aren't actually hunting.

+1 Scum Point

Cam claims that MZero's responses to Lea lead him to believe that MZero = TOWN.

(MZero's opening post which looks like scum, he also introduces himself to Cam, this felt fake. Has Cam been Town cleared by a claim or by anyones scans? I'd hate to try linking these two as scummates foolishly.)


@Obellisk

If you go over posts regarding Luis or Red, I think you'll find I'm at the top to be unassociated with either or both of them

I'm somewhat concerned it's not obvious that I'm Town just waiting for my turn to die
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5tarscream
06/25/19 10:05:42 AM
#18:


Obellisk posted...
5tarscream posted...
Cam has a heavy town read from a lot of people but nothing is confirmed yet. Plus he still thinks Im scum and bussed red because hes Cam and thats how his brain works.


But you are claimed power that damned scum...


Im pretty sure Cam is town. Paranoid rabbit hole diving town. But still town.
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Obellisk
06/25/19 10:06:04 AM
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Camarija posted...
If you go over posts regarding Luis or Red, I think you'll find I'm at the top to be unassociated with either or both of them

I'm somewhat concerned it's not obvious that I'm Town just waiting for my turn to die


Well i'd prefer not to limit the scope of my reading to just items linked to the dead scum. I understand you feel that paints you in the best light and it works the best for you.
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5tarscream
06/25/19 10:06:05 AM
#20:


Dont get distracted youre selling us on MZero not Cam.
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Camarija
06/25/19 10:06:29 AM
#21:


oh right, @5tarscream

I'm reading up right now, I'm happy to claim my flavor if you claim who you scanned
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5tarscream
06/25/19 10:07:07 AM
#22:


I already did.
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Obellisk
06/25/19 10:07:54 AM
#23:


5tarscream posted...
Obellisk posted...
5tarscream posted...
Cam has a heavy town read from a lot of people but nothing is confirmed yet. Plus he still thinks Im scum and bussed red because hes Cam and thats how his brain works.


But you are claimed power that damned scum...


Im pretty sure Cam is town. Paranoid rabbit hole diving town. But still town.


Well in response to that I can say that had Chris been alive Start of Day 3 I was going to vote him because with Red flipping Backup, it led me to believe that Chris was actually scum that knew he'd look great lynching scum and knowing they could still use Luis's redirect the next night made it all ok.

I get delusional and paranoid town.
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Obellisk
06/25/19 10:08:17 AM
#24:


5tarscream posted...
Dont get distracted youre selling us on MZero not Cam.


Sorry, sir. back to reading.
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Camarija
06/25/19 10:08:22 AM
#25:


5tarscream posted...
I already did.


yeah I'm reading up... I'll find it eventually

I only have about 15 minutes so I wanted to make the most of my time right now
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Camarija
06/25/19 10:09:01 AM
#26:


Why am I delusional and paranoid though if I delivered our last two Mafia lynches?

I'm confused but whatever
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Camarija
06/25/19 10:12:16 AM
#27:


alright you scanned Ulti

Anyway I should let you know why I think your role is BS

And why I laughed at Corrik here

Corrik7 posted...
Perhaps while we are at it. What would be the sinister evils of English literature?

Stephen King novels.
Voldemort from Harry Potter *cough*
What else?
Baron Harkonnen?


I am Voldemort from Harry Potter

AND I'm Town

If your flavor scanning has any indicators of alignment, then it's obviously not 100% correct

Also, it really feels like Corrik was trying to tip me off here that Mafia flavor scanned me or something
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Tom Bombadil
06/25/19 10:13:55 AM
#28:


because it is very unlikely 5tar is scum but you are 100% convinced he is
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Tom Bombadil
06/25/19 10:15:20 AM
#29:


oh that sure is a claim

in what situation would corrik A) know mafia scanned you, B) know what you are, and C) would want you to know about it? I think more likely that was a response to the Harry Potter claim.
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Camarija
06/25/19 10:15:30 AM
#30:


Tom Bombadil posted...
because it is very unlikely 5tar is scum but you are 100% convinced he is


Oh that, right, well hopefully my flavor explains that fear isn't founded on nothing but birdnests and bees
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Camarija
06/25/19 10:19:36 AM
#31:


Please tell me board 8 is kicking my teeth in while I deliver yet another Mafia
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Camarija
06/25/19 10:21:28 AM
#32:


Camarija posted...
LETS SEE WHO HASN'T VOTED:
red13n
MZero
5tarscream
eaedwards
luis_sera
lolo

PLAYERS WHO ONLY VOTED ONCE:
Death
Sultan

Suprak the Stud posted...
The Adventures of Huckleberry Votals (as of post #261):
(4) Hb: Chris, (Lea), (puns), Tom, (Corrik), Death, (Cam), Corrik
(3) MZero: (Lea), (Lea), Lea, Ben, dowolf
(2) Cam: Lopen, (Lea), Sbell
(2) Lea: (Cam), (Corrik), Cam, puns
(1) Sultan: pezloco, (SBell)
(1) Lopen: (Ulti), Hb, (SBell)
(1) pezloco: Ulti
(0) Lolo: (Lea), (Cam)
(0) Ben: (Chris), (Corrik), (Lea), (dowolf)
(0) Dowolf: (Cam), (Cam), (ben)
(0) Sir Chris: (Tom), (Ben), (puns)
(0) Corrik: (Sultan)
(0) SBell: (Corrik)
(0) No Lynch: (pezloco), (Tom), (Lopen)
(0) Luis: (Lea)
(0) Ulti: (Lopen), (Hb)
(0) Puns: (Lea), (Corrik), (Ulti)

With 21 alive, it takes 11 votes to reach majority! The day will end on Thursday at 9 pm EDT, or if majority is reached, whichever comes first.

(I believe these are correct but I noticed one mistake one going through so people may want to double check and correct me if I'm wrong!)


Need to see this one place, give me a second
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Obellisk
06/25/19 10:21:31 AM
#33:


MZero, starts to get heat from Ben about his question to Chris about all of Toms questions. Mzero tries to shrug it off as looking for a veterans views of Tom. but then he just peaces out. That was early topic 2 and he doesn't reappear till he's scummoned early topic 5 and his first post is to crap on 5tar for defending him early only for 5tar to be questioning his alignment now.

(now i'm not allowed to damn people for how they look, i look like shit. but...)

+1 Scum Point
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Obellisk
06/25/19 10:22:13 AM
#34:


Camarija posted...
Please tell me board 8 is kicking my teeth in while I deliver yet another Mafia


explain to me why you jsut claimed voldemort as town, what was this in response to? who did you just damn?
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Camarija
06/25/19 10:24:22 AM
#35:


Tom, literally all evidence points towards you being a member of the Mafia EXCEPT for your tone

I'm going to try my best to shut off the logic part to my brain and vote a simple Mafia today

5tarscream I am pretty much convinced must be Mafia

I believe my flip will PROVE that flavor scanner literally doesn't make sense in this game

But whatever, people don't want to lynch 5tarscream, fine

Who is left?

red13n - Mafia
MZero
5tarscream
eaedwards - Town
luis_sera - Mafia
lolo

So I guess we go with the boring options today

MZero or lolo

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Camarija
06/25/19 10:24:54 AM
#36:


Obellisk posted...
Camarija posted...
Please tell me board 8 is kicking my teeth in while I deliver yet another Mafia


explain to me why you jsut claimed voldemort as town, what was this in response to? who did you just damn?


5tarscream's role literally doesn't make sense

Flavor scanner means nothing
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htaeD
06/25/19 10:26:11 AM
#37:


Tom Bombadil posted...
why does everybody keep lumping red into this? Red's just a dude we've played with a bunch.


I keep hearing from others that red can always tell when one of you is scum and vice versa.
So because people keep lumping red into this *shrug*


HB I am iffy on.


this seems odd to me because most of your ISO makes him look p bad

I didnt intend to make iffy sound like 'ambivalent'. More like 'dubious and suspect'

Still, there were moments where it almost felt like red was trying to turn HB into a lynch instead. Which leaves me confused. Leaning more towards that being a bus though.

there's a pretty big spectrum between "suspect" and "think is town"


I mean yeah. But it still bothered me. I will find the specific moments later.
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turbopuns3
06/25/19 10:27:46 AM
#38:


Cam when I asked if you would still think I'm town if I'd lied about my flavor and role

You said you didn't care about flavor or roles

Now you're driving a lynch with the argument of "he claimed a role related to flavor which doesn't make sense"

It seems to be at odds here

Flavor split between town and mafia might not be clear but one could still be caught lying
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htaeD
06/25/19 10:29:07 AM
#39:


Voldemort?
???
Okay now I really dont get the flavor split anymore.
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Obellisk
06/25/19 10:31:13 AM
#40:


The HP Lovecraft character is clearly evil.

The One Ring is clearly evil.

Voldemort is clearly evil.

FLAVOR!

Anyway, i see no reason to argue that a Flavor scanner makes no sense. In my Broadway Mafia game every player was given a Character Name from a Broadway Musical AND a specific Song. Town had a Flavor Scanner and i think Scum had a Song Scanner. Thats two separate flavor scanners in the game.

5tar, what details can you give me about your scans that i probably haven't read yet. I'd like to further squash this "No Flavor Scanner" mumbojumbo.
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MZero11
06/25/19 10:34:11 AM
#41:


Corrik7 posted...
Why wouldn't you defend someone who you think is town?


I was still leaning town at that point but it's not like I was 100% convinced
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MZero11
06/25/19 10:35:40 AM
#42:


Obellisk posted...
First post says a lot here.

Acting like Corrik's question at the very beginning of the game would actually hold merit when we all know from the opening mandatory reading that its a moot point. Portrays a town slant while really being pointless, MZero is not pointless.


how is it any more pointless than Corrik's original post

or Ulti answering it
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Lopen
06/25/19 10:35:45 AM
#43:


Camarija posted...
I am Voldemort from Harry Potter

AND I'm Town

If your flavor scanning has any indicators of alignment, then it's obviously not 100% correct

Also, it really feels like Corrik was trying to tip me off here that Mafia flavor scanned me or something


I'm not sure why the suspicion is on the flavor scanner if you're Voldemort and not the Harry Potter claim. Do you really think Harry Potter gets two slots in the game?

Has anyone in the game had another character from their book series flip yet? I know I haven't.
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MZero11
06/25/19 10:36:25 AM
#44:


You're literally calling my post "pointless" while saying Corrik's has no merit

and yet you're not attacking Corrik. Why is that?
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Obellisk
06/25/19 10:37:05 AM
#45:


Lopen posted...
Camarija posted...
I am Voldemort from Harry Potter

AND I'm Town

If your flavor scanning has any indicators of alignment, then it's obviously not 100% correct

Also, it really feels like Corrik was trying to tip me off here that Mafia flavor scanned me or something


I'm not sure why the suspicion is on the flavor scanner if you're Voldemort and not the Harry Potter claim. Do you really think Harry Potter gets two slots in the game?

Has anyone in the game had another character from their book series flip yet? I know I haven't.


I have not, however, who claimed a different Harry Potter character?
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5tarscream
06/25/19 10:38:36 AM
#46:


This could be the ultimate ruse. Cam is claiming his real flavour so if I scan it confirms it and he says see I told you I was Voldemort. It doesnt give me alignment, it gives me flavour.
If what Corrik said is true then this is the only way to kill me is to mislynch me. Scum would absolutely take a scanner for Cam if that was true. Mislynching me is the only option without us outing our doctor.
This is a scum ploy from a guy the only scum player hat could pull it off. I guess I was wrong and Cam is scum. +1 SBell.
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Lopen
06/25/19 10:38:41 AM
#47:


Hbthebattle claimed Harry Potter as a villager
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Obellisk
06/25/19 10:38:50 AM
#48:


MZero11 posted...
You're literally calling my post "pointless" while saying Corrik's has no merit

and yet you're not attacking Corrik. Why is that?


Because I am ISO'ing you.

Corrik is asking a blatantly obvious non-question. We were ALL told what Town Vanilla's are called. You took it up a notch by being annoyed that someone else answered the question. Its a bad look.
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5tarscream
06/25/19 10:40:06 AM
#49:


Hb claimed Harry Potter.
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Obellisk
06/25/19 10:41:11 AM
#50:


Lopen posted...
Hbthebattle claimed Harry Potter as a villager


Ahh.

I wouldn't rule out the possibility of there being at least 1 pair of characters.

To give me a leg up, if you wouldn't mind, anyone really. Can we get a post of every claim that is floating out there in the ether right now.
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