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averagejoel
06/25/19 10:15:25 AM
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He's not left wing anymore in the sense that the left wing gets exponentially more ridiculous by the year.

what specific policies or ideas does he support that you think makes him left wing
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The Great Muta 22
06/25/19 10:16:19 AM
#305:


SageHarpuia posted...
averagejoel posted...
USB-C posted...
averagejoel posted...
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
Its sad, but I do think that rhetoric like youre awful if youre not willing to date a transgendered person and youre a bigot if you dont think biological men should be playing in womens sports leagues is largely to blame.

rhetoric like that does not actually get used. you are misunderstanding it, either intentionally or due to your own ignorance


What happens when it does get used and legitimately liberal and left wing people like Joe Rogan and Tim Pool get labeled alt-right? Surely that's not getting people from the non-conservative side to be annoyed with you?

as I said, it does not get used, so your question is irrelevant.

and I do not care about joe rogan and tim pool

Except it does. Literally on this board. A few month back there was a topic where the TC insisted if you weren't willing to take it up the butt in [current year] you're a homophobe


This place was better when you went into hiding after your affinity for using the N word and being a massive bigot was exposed.

You should go away again tbh
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The Great Muta 22
06/25/19 10:18:01 AM
#306:


averagejoel posted...
USB-C posted...
He's not left wing anymore in the sense that the left wing gets exponentially more ridiculous by the year.

what specific policies does he support that you think makes him left wing


You're talking with someone who likely thinks Trump himself isn't a right wing conservative. Reality has escaped him a long time ago
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SageHarpuia
06/25/19 10:18:06 AM
#307:


"went into hiding"

I just got bored lol
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The Great Muta 22
06/25/19 10:18:37 AM
#308:


SageHarpuia posted...
"went into hiding"

I just got bored lol


Then you should get bored and go away again.

But shame on me for assuming you actually had shame for being exposed as a bigot. I gave you too much credit
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SageHarpuia
06/25/19 10:20:25 AM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
"went into hiding"

I just got bored lol


Then you should get bored and go away again.

But shame on me for assuming you actually had shame for being exposed as a bigot. I gave you too much credit

Tell me, who do you think leaked the chat in the first place?
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AcFan87
06/25/19 10:21:37 AM
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If SJWs would quit jamming things in our face and the movements would be about actual equality and not superiority then there wouldn't be a problem. By attacking straight people and white people, the left is creating and also becoming the enemy they are trying to fight. Do we really need a pride month? How about a veteran's month? Those people have made tremendous sacrifices for our country and our freedom but all they get is a day while people of a certain sexual orientation (which doesn't actually define someone) get an entire month.
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The Great Muta 22
06/25/19 10:21:52 AM
#312:


SageHarpuia posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
"went into hiding"

I just got bored lol


Then you should get bored and go away again.

But shame on me for assuming you actually had shame for being exposed as a bigot. I gave you too much credit

Tell me, who do you think leaked the chat in the first place?


Was that before or after you raged out and tried to send me scat porn from an alt account?
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The Great Muta 22
06/25/19 10:23:22 AM
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he's trying to deflect away from the fact liberals like joe rogan exist and that the representation of the left wing gets more insane by the day and is actually just a hivemind mentality he fell for.


You listen to Joe Rogan podcasts and call someone else victim to a hivemind? Wew lad

Step out of the main stream media podcasting bubble sometime
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averagejoel
06/25/19 10:25:18 AM
#315:


USB-C posted...
averagejoel posted...
USB-C posted...
He's not left wing anymore in the sense that the left wing gets exponentially more ridiculous by the year.

what specific policies does he support that you think makes him left wing


universal basic income
legalization of drugs and prostitution
free college education
climate control
gay marriage
abolition of religion
revamping the slaughterhouse industry in favor of animals

do i need to go on?

of those policies:
UBI is a neoliberal idea meant to replace existing social services with money that may or may not cover those services. it is a right-wing idea.

the only actual left-wing things are free college and maybe climate control depending on the specifics.

the rest of the ideas are commonly supported by leftists, but they're not actually definining points of leftist ideology
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epik_fail1
06/25/19 10:25:39 AM
#316:


AcFan87 posted...
If SJWs would quit jamming things in our face and the movements would be about actual equality and not superiority then there wouldn't be a problem. By attacking straight people and white people, the left is creating and also becoming the enemy they are trying to fight. Do we really need a pride month? How about a veteran's month? Those people have made tremendous sacrifices for our country and our freedom but all they get is a day while people of a certain sexual orientation (which doesn't actually define someone) get an entire month.


Claiming that straight people do not go through shit lgbt has to endure is not "attacking them".
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The Great Muta 22
06/25/19 10:31:59 AM
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USB-C posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
USB-C posted...
he's trying to deflect away from the fact liberals like joe rogan exist and that the representation of the left wing gets more insane by the day and is actually just a hivemind mentality he fell for.


You listen to Joe Rogan podcasts and call someone else victim to a hivemind? Wew lad


Joe Rogan has the most conflicting guests of any mainstream outlet in America. You rarely will see two guests with the same opinions back to back. He's had presidential candidates from the democratic party on his show such as Andrew Yang and Kamala Harris, to conservatives such as Ben Shapiro, to innovators like Elon Musk, to athletes from the world of MMA, to scientists such as Neil Degrasse Tyson, and many more.


Why are you obsessed with and following the mainstream media so much, something which Joe Rogan is a part of? Get out of your bubble
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AcFan87
06/25/19 10:32:58 AM
#320:


epik_fail1 posted...
AcFan87 posted...
If SJWs would quit jamming things in our face and the movements would be about actual equality and not superiority then there wouldn't be a problem. By attacking straight people and white people, the left is creating and also becoming the enemy they are trying to fight. Do we really need a pride month? How about a veteran's month? Those people have made tremendous sacrifices for our country and our freedom but all they get is a day while people of a certain sexual orientation (which doesn't actually define someone) get an entire month.


Claiming that straight people do not go through shit lgbt has to endure is not "attacking them".

Pardon me, but outside of some bigoted assholes saying horrible things to them (which can easily be ignored and not fed into) what shit do they go through? Are we tossing them off of buildings here in America like they do in the Middle East or stoning them to death? They live in a country that lets them actually have a pride month.....do you think that would fly anywhere else?
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Doom_Art
06/25/19 10:35:11 AM
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"We're not murdering these people" is a pretty low bar
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hollow_shrine
06/25/19 10:36:27 AM
#322:


averagejoel posted...
USB-C posted...
averagejoel posted...
USB-C posted...
He's not left wing anymore in the sense that the left wing gets exponentially more ridiculous by the year.

what specific policies does he support that you think makes him left wing


universal basic income
legalization of drugs and prostitution
free college education
climate control
gay marriage
abolition of religion
revamping the slaughterhouse industry in favor of animals

do i need to go on?

of those policies:
UBI is a neoliberal idea meant to replace existing social services with money that may or may not cover those services. it is a right-wing idea.

the only actual left-wing things are free college and maybe climate control depending on the specifics.

the rest of the ideas are commonly supported by leftists, but they're not actually defining points of leftist ideology

I'd add decriminalization of certain drugs (not all of them) to this and commuting the sentences of people caught up in unnecessarily harsh or unequally applied drug-related convictions.

And I think legalization for prostitution is as much about creating a system to provide legal protections to the sex work industry as it is about dismantling social stigma.

Otherwise I agree with this assessment. To hear Yang talk about his UBI proposal, it's explicitly clear that he thinks it will replace the social safety net. This reeks of right wing ideologies being crafted into a poison pill nestled within leftist political discourse to undermine the left's desire to strengthen the social safety net. It essentially does this by appealing to centrism.
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AcFan87
06/25/19 10:43:06 AM
#323:


Doom_Art posted...
"We're not murdering these people" is a pretty low bar

Of these two scenarios which is worse: being murdered because of your lifestyle or being a refused a cake in a certain bakery because of your lifestyle? You could just go to another bakery and in future not give your business to the one that refused you service, that's what most people would do. You can't take back murder, so I would say that is definitely worse, again do you think that pride month would be a thing outside of America (also possibly Canada)?
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HylianFox
06/25/19 10:46:07 AM
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AcFan87 posted...

Active posts: 18


who's alt is this
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Zodd3224
06/25/19 10:46:29 AM
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"Look, they are killing the gays over there, dont you see how good you have it? Now stop complaining when you are bullied and beaten!"
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Antifar
06/25/19 10:46:30 AM
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People who believe America is the best country in the world always seem to define "best country in the world" to mean "better than Afghanistan."
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AcFan87
06/25/19 10:48:59 AM
#327:


HylianFox posted...
AcFan87 posted...

Active posts: 18


who's alt is this

The mastery of that rebuttal.....I just got schooled by such a devastating comeback, top marks my friend, top marks. Go back to class I think recess is over now.
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averagejoel
06/25/19 10:54:14 AM
#328:


Antifar posted...
People who believe America is the best country in the world always seem to define "best country in the world" to mean "better than Afghanistan."

and they never seem to think about what caused those problems in Afghanistan in the first place
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averagejoel
06/25/19 10:55:57 AM
#330:


USB-C posted...
averagejoel posted...
USB-C posted...
averagejoel posted...
USB-C posted...
He's not left wing anymore in the sense that the left wing gets exponentially more ridiculous by the year.

what specific policies does he support that you think makes him left wing


universal basic income
legalization of drugs and prostitution
free college education
climate control
gay marriage
abolition of religion
revamping the slaughterhouse industry in favor of animals

do i need to go on?

of those policies:
UBI is a neoliberal idea meant to replace existing social services with money that may or may not cover those services. it is a right-wing idea.

the only actual left-wing things are free college and maybe climate control depending on the specifics.

the rest of the ideas are commonly supported by leftists, but they're not actually definining points of leftist ideology


This is dangerously close to you cherrypicking things to argue the "not 100% with us!" sports fandom garbage.

maybe if you don't understand what defines leftist ideologies
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averagejoel
06/25/19 11:04:09 AM
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USB-C posted...
averagejoel posted...
USB-C posted...
averagejoel posted...
USB-C posted...
averagejoel posted...
USB-C posted...
He's not left wing anymore in the sense that the left wing gets exponentially more ridiculous by the year.

what specific policies does he support that you think makes him left wing


universal basic income
legalization of drugs and prostitution
free college education
climate control
gay marriage
abolition of religion
revamping the slaughterhouse industry in favor of animals

do i need to go on?

of those policies:
UBI is a neoliberal idea meant to replace existing social services with money that may or may not cover those services. it is a right-wing idea.

the only actual left-wing things are free college and maybe climate control depending on the specifics.

the rest of the ideas are commonly supported by leftists, but they're not actually definining points of leftist ideology


This is dangerously close to you cherrypicking things to argue the "not 100% with us!" sports fandom garbage.

maybe if you don't understand what defines leftist ideologies


It's hard to do that when they change every day.

every ideology adapts to its surroundings. leftist ideologies are not exempt from this, and are not more prone to this than any other ideology
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epik_fail1
06/25/19 11:15:37 AM
#333:


AcFan87 posted...
epik_fail1 posted...
AcFan87 posted...
If SJWs would quit jamming things in our face and the movements would be about actual equality and not superiority then there wouldn't be a problem. By attacking straight people and white people, the left is creating and also becoming the enemy they are trying to fight. Do we really need a pride month? How about a veteran's month? Those people have made tremendous sacrifices for our country and our freedom but all they get is a day while people of a certain sexual orientation (which doesn't actually define someone) get an entire month.


Claiming that straight people do not go through shit lgbt has to endure is not "attacking them".

Pardon me, but outside of some bigoted assholes saying horrible things to them (which can easily be ignored and not fed into) what shit do they go through? Are we tossing them off of buildings here in America like they do in the Middle East or stoning them to death? They live in a country that lets them actually have a pride month.....do you think that would fly anywhere else?


There is still plenty of lgbt getting bullied in high school everyday. Sometimes even beaten almost to death. Some gets disowned by family members.

I have another question

Why aren't you able to ignore the imaginary "straight bullying" that you made up?
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Sheep007
06/25/19 11:37:23 AM
#334:


epik_fail1 posted...
AcFan87 posted...
epik_fail1 posted...
AcFan87 posted...
If SJWs would quit jamming things in our face and the movements would be about actual equality and not superiority then there wouldn't be a problem. By attacking straight people and white people, the left is creating and also becoming the enemy they are trying to fight. Do we really need a pride month? How about a veteran's month? Those people have made tremendous sacrifices for our country and our freedom but all they get is a day while people of a certain sexual orientation (which doesn't actually define someone) get an entire month.


Claiming that straight people do not go through shit lgbt has to endure is not "attacking them".

Pardon me, but outside of some bigoted assholes saying horrible things to them (which can easily be ignored and not fed into) what shit do they go through? Are we tossing them off of buildings here in America like they do in the Middle East or stoning them to death? They live in a country that lets them actually have a pride month.....do you think that would fly anywhere else?


There is still plenty of lgbt getting bullied in high school everyday. Sometimes even beaten almost to death. Some gets disowned by family members.

I have another question

Why aren't you able to ignore the imaginary "straight bullying" that you made up?

It's a classic case of "you can't be suffering if other people are having it worse than you!"
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epik_fail1
06/25/19 11:45:58 AM
#335:


Sheep007 posted...
epik_fail1 posted...
AcFan87 posted...
epik_fail1 posted...
AcFan87 posted...
If SJWs would quit jamming things in our face and the movements would be about actual equality and not superiority then there wouldn't be a problem. By attacking straight people and white people, the left is creating and also becoming the enemy they are trying to fight. Do we really need a pride month? How about a veteran's month? Those people have made tremendous sacrifices for our country and our freedom but all they get is a day while people of a certain sexual orientation (which doesn't actually define someone) get an entire month.


Claiming that straight people do not go through shit lgbt has to endure is not "attacking them".

Pardon me, but outside of some bigoted assholes saying horrible things to them (which can easily be ignored and not fed into) what shit do they go through? Are we tossing them off of buildings here in America like they do in the Middle East or stoning them to death? They live in a country that lets them actually have a pride month.....do you think that would fly anywhere else?


There is still plenty of lgbt getting bullied in high school everyday. Sometimes even beaten almost to death. Some gets disowned by family members.

I have another question

Why aren't you able to ignore the imaginary "straight bullying" that you made up?

It's a classic case of "you can't be suffering if other people are having it worse than you!"


And those same people act like minorities voicing their opinions somehow oppress them.

Classic case of "do what I preach, not what I do"
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King_Hellebuyck
06/25/19 11:49:58 AM
#336:


People are still blaming everything other than the people responsible huh?
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sktgamer_13dude
06/25/19 12:32:37 PM
#337:


King_Hellebuyck posted...
People are still blaming everything other than the people responsible huh?

Its how they shift the blame.

Were not the bad guys, other people are MAKING us the bad guys!
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hockeybub89
06/25/19 12:38:35 PM
#338:


Zodd3224 posted...
"Look, they are killing the gays over there, dont you see how good you have it? Now stop complaining when you are bullied and beaten!"

"Now let me complain about how oppressed Christians and white people are in America"
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tremain07
06/25/19 12:42:11 PM
#339:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
People are still blaming everything other than the people responsible huh?

Its how they shift the blame.

Were not the bad guys, other people are MAKING us the bad guys!

seems more like "if people call me a bad guy then fuck it, I'll be worse than what they say I am then" which is why there's an increase in racism, sexism and bigotry, this is the result of the PC culture of SJWism and now we're well on the road to two sides of extremism with no middle ground whatsoever because people don't know how to think, only react.
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epik_fail1
06/25/19 12:46:32 PM
#340:


tremain07 posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
People are still blaming everything other than the people responsible huh?

Its how they shift the blame.

Were not the bad guys, other people are MAKING us the bad guys!

seems more like "if people call me a bad guy then fuck it, I'll be worse than what they say I am then" which is why there's an increase in racism, sexism and bigotry, this is the result of the PC culture of SJWism and now we're well on the road to two sides of extremism with no middle ground whatsoever because people don't know how to think, only react.


You realise that only a few years ago, being lgbt was anti-PC right?

Imagine if lgbt started acting toward straight people the way homophobes act toward them and then said "Look at what you made us do". It would be consider radical leftist sjw propaganda according to people like you.
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tremain07
06/25/19 12:48:13 PM
#341:


I don't have to imagine because that community has and does discriminate against straight people,too. It's just often ignored by the powers that be because of petty agenda pushing
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King_Hellebuyck
06/25/19 12:48:19 PM
#342:


epik_fail1 posted...
tremain07 posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
People are still blaming everything other than the people responsible huh?

Its how they shift the blame.

Were not the bad guys, other people are MAKING us the bad guys!

seems more like "if people call me a bad guy then fuck it, I'll be worse than what they say I am then" which is why there's an increase in racism, sexism and bigotry, this is the result of the PC culture of SJWism and now we're well on the road to two sides of extremism with no middle ground whatsoever because people don't know how to think, only react.


You realise that only a few years ago, being lgbt was anti-PC right?

Imagine if lgbt started acting toward straight people the way homophobes act toward them and then said "Look at what you made us do". It would be consider radical leftist sjw propaganda according to people like you.

Exactly, it always has to be someone elses fault. There is no legitimate reason to be anti-LGBTQ so instead of saying what they really believe, theyre blaming everyone else for their bullshit.
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SSJCAT
06/25/19 12:58:10 PM
#343:


tremain07 posted...
I don't have to imagine because that community has and does discriminate against straight people,too. It's just often ignored by the powers that be because of petty agenda pushing

lol dude.
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hockeybub89
06/25/19 12:58:26 PM
#344:


King_Hellebuyck posted...
epik_fail1 posted...
tremain07 posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
People are still blaming everything other than the people responsible huh?

Its how they shift the blame.

Were not the bad guys, other people are MAKING us the bad guys!

seems more like "if people call me a bad guy then fuck it, I'll be worse than what they say I am then" which is why there's an increase in racism, sexism and bigotry, this is the result of the PC culture of SJWism and now we're well on the road to two sides of extremism with no middle ground whatsoever because people don't know how to think, only react.


You realise that only a few years ago, being lgbt was anti-PC right?

Imagine if lgbt started acting toward straight people the way homophobes act toward them and then said "Look at what you made us do". It would be consider radical leftist sjw propaganda according to people like you.

Exactly, it always has to be someone elses fault. There is no legitimate reason to be anti-LGBTQ so instead of saying what they really believe, theyre blaming everyone else for their bullshit.

"Be nice to racists or they'll have no choice but to become Nazis. Better than being on the side that is sometimes annoying."
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StealthRock
06/25/19 1:06:42 PM
#345:


Squall28 posted...
StealthRock posted...
Sorry but you sound too apologetic

Why would the actions of some random asian reflect on you at all?

Who cares what white people think


Because it affects our career, our relationships, and how society at large perceives us? It's not just white people. It's almost every single person in society. They'll take the poor actions of one person, and judge the entire group with it.

If you think you can get by in life without worrying what people think about you, you are being incredibly naive.

Nah admit it bro, its white people. Are you really worried about qhat other groups think abouy Asians?
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The Admiral
06/25/19 2:00:44 PM
#346:


@Zodd3224 posted...
The Admiral posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
Squall28 posted...
I'm pretty sure the standards have changed. Back when I was in high school and college, supporting LGBTQ rights didn't mean much more than supporting gay marriage. Now if you're a man who doesn't want to date a trans person, you are transphobic.


I only ever hear this from conservatives, not LGBT people.


It gets posted by leftys on CE all the time.


Haven't seen it


Here you go.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77817572

Now you have
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Zodd3224
06/25/19 2:11:49 PM
#347:


The Admiral posted...
@Zodd3224 posted...
The Admiral posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
Squall28 posted...
I'm pretty sure the standards have changed. Back when I was in high school and college, supporting LGBTQ rights didn't mean much more than supporting gay marriage. Now if you're a man who doesn't want to date a trans person, you are transphobic.


I only ever hear this from conservatives, not LGBT people.


It gets posted by leftys on CE all the time.


Haven't seen it


Here you go.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77817572

Now you have


@The_Admiral please point out where someone calls someone transphobic for not wanting to fuck trans people there
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The Admiral
06/25/19 2:14:55 PM
#348:


@Zodd3224 posted...
The Admiral posted...
@Zodd3224 posted...
The Admiral posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
Squall28 posted...
I'm pretty sure the standards have changed. Back when I was in high school and college, supporting LGBTQ rights didn't mean much more than supporting gay marriage. Now if you're a man who doesn't want to date a trans person, you are transphobic.


I only ever hear this from conservatives, not LGBT people.


It gets posted by leftys on CE all the time.


Haven't seen it


Here you go.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77817572

Now you have


@The_Admiral please point out where someone calls someone transphobic for not wanting to fuck trans people there


Posts 46 and 52
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averagejoel
06/25/19 2:31:19 PM
#349:


averagejoel posted...
the actual rhetoric is more like this:

society is transphobic
you were raised in society
therefore, it's reasonable to assume that you have internalized some transphobic ideas
it is also reasonable to assume that this might have an effect on your dating habits

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fan357
06/25/19 2:38:18 PM
#350:


Most people dont care if someone is gay. The problem is you have a very loud minority that complain because gender binary neutral whatevers arent represented in Cyberpunk. Its just obnoxious people trying to make a name for themselves and making life worse for everyone.
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r25
06/25/19 2:40:34 PM
#351:


Its the anti-sjws. They keep getting loud about how sjws are snowflakes and ruining boobs. Kids are impressionable. They will mimic these things. Just like how we used to use gay as a term for something lame or uncool back in the 00s and 90s.
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Funkydog
06/25/19 2:53:00 PM
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USB-C posted...
averagejoel posted...
USB-C posted...
He's not left wing anymore in the sense that the left wing gets exponentially more ridiculous by the year.

what specific policies does he support that you think makes him left wing


universal basic income
legalization of drugs and prostitution
free college education
climate control
gay marriage
abolition of religion
revamping the slaughterhouse industry in favor of animals

do i need to go on?

How are any of those "Left wing policies"

At most, maybe UBI is one, but the rest are things people on all sides of politics support.
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