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thronedfire2 06/24/19 6:40:43 PM #53: |
SixStringHero posted...
Certain politicians were calling the border issue a manufactured crisis and are now only realizing that there is in fact a crisis and now they are having to slowly start admitting to it. 4.5 billion was requested for a wall. Are those kids gonna eat the wall? Sleep on it? No --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RickyTheBAWSE 06/24/19 6:40:57 PM #54: |
the things people convince themselves of in order to not feel bad.
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dave_is_slick 06/24/19 7:07:05 PM #55: |
Ruvan22 posted...
Caution998 posted...Goats posted...We all kind of know what's happening but no one is doing anything to stop it wth --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SixStringHero 06/24/19 11:22:20 PM #56: |
thronedfire2 posted...
SixStringHero posted...Certain politicians were calling the border issue a manufactured crisis and are now only realizing that there is in fact a crisis and now they are having to slowly start admitting to it. Wrong. https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2019-05-01/trump-asks-congress-for-additional-45-billion-in-border-funding https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/01/politics/4-5-billion-border-funding/index.html https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/447899-senate-panel-to-vote-on-trumps-45-billion-border-request-next-week ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MakoReizei 06/24/19 11:31:15 PM #57: |
shame on the parents for putting their kids through this in the first place
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Zeeak4444 06/24/19 11:42:16 PM #58: |
MakoReizei posted...
shame on the parents for putting their kids through this in the first place What a shit post. Expect nothing else from trash like mako though. Yes, yes. I'll take my mod. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 06/24/19 11:53:06 PM #59: |
MakoReizei posted...
shame on the parents for putting their kids through this in the first place What should the parents do instead? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ledbowman 06/25/19 12:16:55 PM #60: |
WATCH: GOP Rep. on conditions in camp: Any child is free to leave at anytime. https://t.co/JieIJYUmmd #inners https://twitter.com/allinwithchris/status/1143338019400953856?s=19 --- I wish we all waved ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ledbowman 06/25/19 1:01:39 PM #61: |
Breaking News: The acting head of U.S. Customs and Border Protection is resigning, as public fury mounts over migrant children held in filthy, overcrowded conditions https://t.co/yq9Wnxcvjw https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1143559460037812224?s=19 --- I wish we all waved ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ledbowman 06/25/19 1:02:48 PM #62: |
The resignation of John Sanders, U.S. Customs and Border Protection's acting commissioner, came shortly after agency officials said that more than 100 children have been returned to a troubled Border Patrol station in Texas https://t.co/jqN6lHEByf https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1143561286409605120?s=19 --- I wish we all waved ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Matchabuu_ 06/25/19 1:04:49 PM #63: |
A concentration camp neglecting children? Why, I never!
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hockeybub89 06/25/19 1:09:22 PM #64: |
MakoReizei posted...
shame on the parents for putting their kids through this in the first place This is a strange way to defend America's own actions. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RickyTheBAWSE 06/25/19 3:53:23 PM #65: |
*reads about Japanese internment camps*
Americans: "Yo, this is fucked up. How can the American government be so corrupt and racist? And the hypocritical American people.. How could they be okay with this?" Other Americans: "That was a long time ago! America isn't racist anymore! You know who keeps racism alive? People who talk about America's racism!" *votes for a White Nationalist* Americans: "You voted for a racist. Are you complicit with racism enough to vote for an open racist?" Other Americans: "He's not racist! All you care about is identity politics and virtue signalling for shithole countries!" *2019 Internment camp for immigrants where all help and aid is turned away* Americans: "Yo, that's pretty inhumane. Babies are suffering, people are sick and disease is spreading." Other Americans: "Blame the parents for the treatment of their children while in captivity!" --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 06/25/19 3:59:08 PM #66: |
Sounds pretty much the same as any jail in the US. Not sure why the Holocaust rhetoric is needed. That's usually a tell that the original position is too weak to stand in it's own.
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RickyTheBAWSE 06/25/19 4:01:56 PM #67: |
lol, children is jail is normal for the US.
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ledbowman 06/25/19 4:11:59 PM #68: |
"Libs want to kill babies after there born"
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thronedfire2 06/25/19 4:33:52 PM #69: |
The Admiral posted...
Sounds pretty much the same as any jail in the US. Not sure why the Holocaust rhetoric is needed. That's usually a tell that the original position is too weak to stand on it's own. People in prison have access to soap and toothpaste and their own beds --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 06/25/19 4:42:22 PM #70: |
thronedfire2 posted...
The Admiral posted...Sounds pretty much the same as any jail in the US. Not sure why the Holocaust rhetoric is needed. That's usually a tell that the original position is too weak to stand on it's own. https://twitter.com/RohdeD/status/1143226790623756288 --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RickyTheBAWSE 06/25/19 4:43:38 PM #71: |
thronedfire2 posted...
The Admiral posted...Sounds pretty much the same as any jail in the US. Not sure why the Holocaust rhetoric is needed. That's usually a tell that the original position is too weak to stand on it's own. his position is too weak for him to give quality input ITT, anyway. there are enough parallels to concentration camps to be comparable, and the conditions by themselves are bad enough to where the concentration camp comparisons aren't even needed to prove how shitty this is. https://www.newsweek.com/border-patrol-allegedly-turning-down-donations-soap-diapers-toys-texas-facilities-housing-1445660 help is being turned away. now we know that the suffering is deliberate. they're suffering because sadistic pieces of trash get off on this sort of thing. just like they got off on Sunday lynchings. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 06/25/19 4:45:47 PM #72: |
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
thronedfire2 posted...The Admiral posted...Sounds pretty much the same as any jail in the US. Not sure why the Holocaust rhetoric is needed. That's usually a tell that the original position is too weak to stand on it's own. Right, "comparable." Except for the whole, you know, mass execution and genocide aspect. But other than that small part of it, just like a concentration camp because a few kids didn't get toothpaste. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RickyTheBAWSE 06/25/19 4:50:00 PM #73: |
The Admiral posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted... sure, because if SOME things don't apply, NOTHING applies, right? at least provide an argument that isn't full of holes, lol --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 06/25/19 4:51:18 PM #74: |
correction: they are not "comparable" to concentration camps. they are concentration camps.
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The Admiral 06/25/19 4:52:03 PM #75: |
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
The Admiral posted...RickyTheBAWSE posted...thronedfire2 posted... LOL, "some" things. I'd hate to break it to you, but the systematic genocide isn't a trivial aspect of concentration camps; it was kind of a defining one. Without that, these are comparable to holding cells in the U.S. -- group cells where you are placed after you are arrested but not yet arraigned. You don't have a dedicated bed or toothpaste in those, either. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RickyTheBAWSE 06/25/19 4:54:04 PM #76: |
he's the same guy who makes arguments about the Irish being American slaves by trying to draw parallels, but then he does the exact opposite in conversations like this.
no matter what, White Nationalist rhetoric never makes sense. it's all about one desire. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pukelid 06/25/19 4:54:56 PM #77: |
why is anyone posting anything other than "that's fucking horrible"
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RickyTheBAWSE 06/25/19 4:57:35 PM #78: |
Pukelid posted...
why is anyone posting anything other than "that's fucking horrible" you know why, lol. because "they" want to downplay the situation. like the guy who thinks this is nothing like a concentration camp, but can't provide an argument that hasn't been stomped on with substantial evidence of similarities. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 06/25/19 4:58:56 PM #79: |
https://twitter.com/jtlevy/status/1141320337084338183
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The Great Muta 22 06/25/19 5:17:43 PM #80: |
Balrog0 posted...
https://twitter.com/jtlevy/status/1141320337084338183 Got em --- https://youtu.be/rYy0o-J0x20?t=300 "Thank you, good night. I hope you're happy" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pukelid 06/25/19 5:28:52 PM #81: |
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The Admiral 06/25/19 5:32:17 PM #82: |
Pukelid posted...
Balrog0 posted...https://twitter.com/jtlevy/status/1141320337084338183 I'll take "Whataboutism" for $600, Alex --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RickyTheBAWSE 06/25/19 5:33:51 PM #83: |
usually we ignore the stupid, but they're dangerous when they've got guns, voting rights and the desire to see harm done.
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Shablagoo 06/25/19 5:33:54 PM #84: |
In my 22 years of doing visits with children in detention, I have never heard of this level of inhumanity
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Pukelid 06/25/19 5:38:54 PM #85: |
The Admiral posted...
Pukelid posted...Balrog0 posted...https://twitter.com/jtlevy/status/1141320337084338183 Who cares what you take dawg --- Hairistotle ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 06/26/19 12:01:11 AM #86: |
The Admiral posted...
Sounds pretty much the same as any jail in the US. Not sure why the Holocaust rhetoric is needed. That's usually a tell that the original position is too weak to stand on it's own. Remember when America put Japanese people in concentration camps? Pepperidge farm remembers --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 06/26/19 12:14:49 AM #87: |
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
Pukelid posted...why is anyone posting anything other than "that's fucking horrible" But 6 million Jews aren't dead and no one will think these camps are bad if they compare them to the Nazi ones! I am very smart! --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shablagoo 06/26/19 8:45:52 AM #88: |
tbh our jails/prisons suck really bad too, but not having access to basic hygiene products is a whole nother level.
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NinjaBreakfast 06/26/19 8:47:43 AM #89: |
Pukelid posted...
Balrog0 posted...https://twitter.com/jtlevy/status/1141320337084338183 --- https://imgur.com/nGZeEqw Do you really think you can beat me? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 06/26/19 9:25:40 AM #90: |
What an absolute surprise that Addy "doesn't know" the difference between concentration camps and death camps.
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marc55 06/26/19 9:42:42 AM #91: |
The Admiral posted...
Sounds pretty much the same as any jail in the US. Not sure why the Holocaust rhetoric is needed. That's usually a tell that the original position is too weak to stand on it's own. holocaust ?? did you read the post above this one ? --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingStopMaster 06/26/19 9:50:26 AM #92: |
hockeybub89 posted...
The Admiral posted...Sounds pretty much the same as any jail in the US. Not sure why the Holocaust rhetoric is needed. That's usually a tell that the original position is too weak to stand on it's own. I do as well and those were actual atrocities, the Japanese and other Asian people taken their also had their property confiscated and sold just like the Jewish in Germany. Whats happening here though is completely different and its pretty offensive to call these detention centers Concentration Camps. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 06/26/19 9:51:30 AM #93: |
WingStopMaster posted...
hockeybub89 posted...The Admiral posted...Sounds pretty much the same as any jail in the US. Not sure why the Holocaust rhetoric is needed. That's usually a tell that the original position is too weak to stand on it's own. facts don't care about your feelings --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pinky0926 06/26/19 9:55:52 AM #94: |
Without reading the topic, let me guess: the usual suspects are diverting the argument to the use of the words "concentration camp" to distract from the important bit, which is "neglecting children"
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gunplagirl 06/26/19 9:58:29 AM #95: |
WingStopMaster posted...
hockeybub89 posted...The Admiral posted...Sounds pretty much the same as any jail in the US. Not sure why the Holocaust rhetoric is needed. That's usually a tell that the original position is too weak to stand on it's own. The immigrants coming here are having all their possessions taken from them as they're captured, including rosaries. Again, missing the point completely. They're also not actually being allowed to leave and don't have any rights to a speedy removal from the facilities they're held at. It's a concentration camp by definition. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pinky0926 06/26/19 10:01:10 AM #96: |
*reads through topic*
Gosh that was surprising, here's my shocked face. Anyway, about "concentration camps", and how the holocaust comparisons are "unfair": We make these critiques because we know that the Holocaust isn't an event suspended in time, with no ideological or material precursors, that can never happen again. The fascists didn't begin by slaughtering Jewish people en masse either, they began by scaremongering racial animosity, gradually outlawing the functional existence of minorities, then came the camps, which resulted eventually in death camps. By setting your own impossible standard for what constitutes a fair comparison, you're able to gradually excuse every heinous action. For many, the defense against the idea that right wing politics in America were fascist in nature was "at least they're not being put in military-run camps against their will." Now that they are, a whole new set of justification are employed. Horrible conditions that stamp on people's dignity as human beings simply "could be nicer." Fleeing US-imposed economic conditions of poverty is simply something refugees "choose" to do, and thus no one is morally responsible for putting them in concentration camps they can't leave. It's disrespectful to actual victims of the holocaust to sit around and say that there is another holocaust going on. [sic] This is a statement you've literally conjured out of thin air. Show me were Ocasio-Cortez said this. You can't, because she clearly called them what they are, concentrations camps, and because you have no historical analysis, no ideological genealogy of institutionalized racial violence like this, you immediately assume we're mistaken and that concentration camps can only be outright death camps. Do I need to run through the history of the British actually developing the modern concentration camp in the Boer War? Their usage by the British in the Punjab? Or would that be "disrespectful to actual victims of the holocaust [sic]" because those weren't outright death camps? But instead, people are trying to be all self righteous and bitch about the horrid conditions that they're doing jack shit about, while minimizing the suffering of actual holocaust victims by comparing the events. [sic] So the numerous holocaust survivors, historians, etc who have stood by AOC's critique, what about them? This is a nice rhetorical trick you've pulled, where you get to stand in for survivors while ignoring what they're actually saying about these concentration camps. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 06/26/19 10:09:33 AM #97: |
gunplagirl posted...
WingStopMaster posted...hockeybub89 posted...The Admiral posted...Sounds pretty much the same as any jail in the US. Not sure why the Holocaust rhetoric is needed. That's usually a tell that the original position is too weak to stand on it's own. No, it's a jail by definition, as the illegal immigrants are breaking the law and only being detained because they broke the law. Want to avoid a holding cell? Simply don't try to enter the U.S. illegally. When the U.S. goes into Mexico and starts rounding up Mexicans due to their ethnicity, then I'll indulge these absolutely moronic holocaust comparisons. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pinky0926 06/26/19 10:12:32 AM #98: |
The Admiral posted...
No, it's a jail by definition, as the illegal immigrants are breaking the law and only being detained because they broke the law. Want to avoid a holding cell? Simply don't try to enter the U.S. illegally. Anything at all to distract from the actual conversation which is the basic standard of conditions of these holding cells. Even prisoners deserve basic liveable conditions. Treating children as subpar to that is completely untenable. Justifying this action on the basis of their parents committing illegal acts...do you even hear yourself? You obviously know that is the real conversation here, but for reasons nobody can understand you don't want to address it. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV ... Copied to Clipboard!
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-Cipher- 06/26/19 10:15:01 AM #99: |
I can't believe certain politicians are refusing to adequately fund border patrol to fix this problem
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SpudForce 06/26/19 10:16:51 AM #100: |
-Cipher- posted...
I can't believe certain politicians are refusing to adequately fund border patrol to fix this problem Funding is not really the problem, it's finding people willing to work for the CBP and actually able to pass their ridiculously long hiring process (the polygraph alone fails 70% of candidates) --- And when he gets to Heaven, to St. Peter he will tell, one more soldier reporting sir, I have served my time in hell. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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-Cipher- 06/26/19 10:34:44 AM #101: |
SpudForce posted...
it's finding people willing to work for the CBP It's not exactly an appealing job to begin with, then they're painted as child abusers and are about to lose overtime payments if they don't get a funding bill passed. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 06/26/19 10:35:15 AM #102: |
The Admiral posted...
When the U.S. goes into Mexico and starts rounding up Mexicans due to their ethnicity, then I'll indulge these absolutely moronic holocaust comparisons. What a double shock that Addy keeps pretending it's a Holocaust comparison despite various academics and historians agreeing they are concentration camps by definition. --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent ... Copied to Clipboard!
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