Poll of the Day > ITT I try to convince Nade Duck (and anyone else) to play Final Fantasy XIV

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papercup
10/23/19 2:22:35 PM
#304:


There's also little official data to go off, it's all just estimates based on monitoring web traffic and databases.
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papercup
10/24/19 11:24:36 PM
#305:


Farmed o8s and got my Air Force mount. :D Now I just need to farm o12s. I did clear the fight, but I never got the mount, and it is a really cool one.
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papercup
10/24/19 11:52:20 PM
#306:


Oh yeah GARO is going away in 3 days. Pretty much no time to get the mounts if you don't already have them.

Also here's some new PvP gear https://livedoor.blogimg.jp/umadori0726/imgs/3/3/33807843.jpg
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papercup
10/25/19 10:04:14 AM
#307:


Preliminary patch notes up
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/f4a6b93c6ad34d213f3e8b42688f585de35774cc

Man this patch is gonna be huge
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Entity13
10/25/19 12:26:08 PM
#308:


I love that leveling dungeons from HW onward now have minimum iLVs. I've been wanting that since 3.0.

I was about to be excited for Hasty Touch becoming more successful, but the Steady Hands are being removed, which more than negates that 10% boost. The nerf to Great Strides will suck for anything needing 6+ stacks of IQ.
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papercup
10/25/19 12:44:54 PM
#309:


Yes the dungeon ilvls is a nice change! Diadem being removed though... I want my pegasus. ;-; I should have farmed mogtomes in the last event.

Also, Savage being made consistent! No more bad instances where the boss just doesn't do the last mechanic and just kills you!
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Entity13
10/25/19 2:07:14 PM
#310:


I am sure Pegasus will be applied to Mogtomes at some point. The biggest hit from losing Diadem will be the achievements no longer available (I have a few remaining) or the ease of farming some is we'd need for FC-related crafts.

I am laughing at the changes to Eureka that haven't quite reached the desperate "Play me!" level.

Actually, I am wondering if the next Diadem/Eureka will be Diadem again, but somehow the First's version of it. I wonder if the achievements will be tweaked as well.
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papercup
10/26/19 2:11:30 PM
#311:


Seriously fuck frontlines. There's 7 healers. I'm near my healers the whole time. I die 4 times. And then you look at the score screen. And everyone on the team has at least 3 deaths. . Also for some fucking reason I cannot fathom, Everyone ran to the furthest fucking node instead of taking the three closest ones. And I was telling every to fuck the B near adders take the 2 Cs and the B that are right fucking next to our spawn. So we ended up not holding a single one. And people wonder why they're losing

Jesus. I'm never getting my ADS mounts.
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Entity13
10/26/19 2:50:37 PM
#312:


To this day, I still don't know how I held it together long enough to get that blue and silver one. At least I did, and I have a dedicated mount for Mch.
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papercup
10/26/19 7:00:55 PM
#313:


In the last week I've played about 22 matches. I've won one.
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Entity13
10/27/19 1:22:04 AM
#314:


Ouch. Here I had a two in five win ratio on a good day and one in three average on other days. Of course, back then I would anticipate which GC would have it good, and I would swap to them for the two weeks' minimum. When the bots or premades happened, there was nothing I could do but turn off my ps4 mid-match and read something for ten to fifteen minutes before trying again.

Toward the end of those two weeks, I would hold off, and no I didn't trust Mercenary Mode to put me in a good group. Then I would swap GCs again and put more work in. Seven to eight weeks for that orb; gods, I hate pvp.
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Millea
10/27/19 10:30:34 AM
#315:


Emet-Selch is a better villain than both Kuja AND Kefka.

Shadowbringers is amazing. What an emotional story.
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agesboy
10/27/19 2:00:26 PM
#316:


sympathizable villains are a lot better than batshit villains, yeah
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papercup
10/28/19 3:48:07 PM
#317:


Yeah Emet-Selch was a fantastic villain, and the 5.0 story was just amazing, and it might actually beat Heavensward for me. At the very least, it's better than anything else after IX.

5.1 goes live in about 12 hours :D

Tomorrow we're getting:
New MSQ
New dungeon
New 24-man raid
New beast tribe
New custom delivery client
Crafting/gathering rework
New Extreme trial
New housing wards

Then I believe in 2 weeks we're getting:
New Ultimate raid
Ishgard restoration
New PvP map

Then I believe 2 weeks after that is when we get:
Blue Mage content
And I'm not sure what else.

I might be mistaken on which content is in 5.11 and 5.15.

Also, apparently, the Extreme trial is gonna be about on par with Shinryu for difficulty. But it will also be so long that one completion will get you 2 tokens rather than 1.
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papercup
10/28/19 8:28:17 PM
#318:


Oh God. Apparently one of the BLU challenges is for 8 BLUs to clear Thordan Extreme synced.
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Entity13
10/29/19 1:18:50 AM
#319:


papercup posted...
Oh God. Apparently one of the BLU challenges is for 8 BLUs to clear Thordan Extreme synced.


...I'm going to need more popcorn.
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agesboy
10/29/19 1:50:26 AM
#320:


That shouldn't be terrible. Blu abilities are kind of op for a reason. Healing is never an issue due to white wind, and mana is never a big issue due to that one "kill yourself but heal an ally to full HP/MP" move.

....wait, did blue mages have a battle rez??
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Entity13
10/29/19 2:33:59 AM
#321:


At i270, sans weapon, and wearing BiS for that point, a group of BLUs should be able to figure it out, and I am sure my achievement buddies will drag me along since I still know the synced fight.
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papercup
10/29/19 8:30:42 AM
#322:


Oh the new launcher is kinda ugly...
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papercup
10/29/19 2:53:01 PM
#323:


Don't know a damn thing about NieR, but that raid was pretty fun! I'll enjoy running it every week methinks.
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Entity13
10/29/19 3:24:03 PM
#324:


That MEW FC went at it again with a housing ward. We are beyond the point of their lot griefing the Gilgamesh server, but the GMs probably won't do anything about it unless it directly affects SE in some way. Bloody typical.

Anywho, 13 days to go until I move in to my new place. I will be back online soon. =)
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papercup
10/29/19 4:07:04 PM
#325:


Yeah screw MEW. I hope everyone just reports the hell out of them and Squenix finally does something about it.

Also, speaking of achievements, I passed 10,000 achievement points today. :D
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Entity13
10/29/19 4:34:52 PM
#326:


papercup posted...
Yeah screw MEW. I hope everyone just reports the hell out of them and Squenix finally does something about it.

Also, speaking of achievements, I passed 10,000 achievement points today. :D


Congrats. So are you officially achievement hunting now? xD

There is a great Linkshell for it on Greg server. Fio, Boss, Quel, Meimi, and others are in it, as I am. Someone can hook you up if you want in. One of us. One of us. One of us.

I have a list of achievements to work on when I get back, only including the Shadowbringers content. I was something like 9th or 10th on the server for points before Pagos killed my achievement hunt. I had about 15k when I last played, and Rioka's been helping with seasonal events. Hmm...
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papercup
10/29/19 10:19:00 PM
#327:


So pretty much every dps class in our static got buffs. So even without ACT working yet, we could tell we were doing crazy high damage, and we definitely killed everything way faster than ever before.
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agesboy
10/30/19 12:01:40 AM
#328:


https://i.gyazo.com/e8c889283e3c593cbc14a8d444827b23.png
https://i.gyazo.com/71b96fe181ec231f941a5f1c3bafffc0.png
https://i.gyazo.com/dd4d44105f1d48f2eb28ef95a92298c7.png


fun moment from the new 24 man

tried to call out our tank when he was the only tank left alive

guy kept dying to 4+ vuln stacks and still wanted to tank with two-stage weakness active

bonus, fight 2: https://i.gyazo.com/219c63f587b2ac9ffb750f050ee7777d.jpg

last 40% of the fight was us constantly trying to rez them when half of them died out of range
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Entity13
11/01/19 1:17:18 PM
#329:


It's hard to believe that I have had my in-game house for so close to five years. It will be this mid-to-late December; same plot and exterior even.

Ten more days, and I will be in my real-life apartment. It hopefully won't take long to get Internet running, patches installed, and the account updated with ShB for the PS4.

Part of me also wants to pick up a standard edition, digital ShB code for pc so I have a backup. We'll see how my budget looks after I repair the one piece of wood on my bedframe's headboard and either fix or replace my desktop monitor I've been using for the PS4.

Help with any of this could be nice. But no worries to anyone if I continue to push forward on my own.
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papercup
11/01/19 3:26:34 PM
#330:


Still haven't cleared Hades Extreme, thought I've really only tried once. Hopefully tonight my static can get together and power through it. Also I've been leveling NIN. It feels fine I guess? At the very least, less clunky. But I'm also having fun with it, so at least there's that.

So my plan is
NIN
WAR
SCH/SMN
BLM
AST
PLD
and I'll be all 80.

Oh and even with my crafted gear and melds it's not enough to make any of the new stuff, so... idk... guess I'll have to make food? I've never really delved too deep into crafting before. But also, the changes made in 5.1, crafting feels easier and faster. Recipes that last week would take me like 30 steps, I can now complete in like 10 steps.
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agesboy
11/01/19 5:38:46 PM
#331:


We haven't tried hades ex so far as a group, not sure if we even will for quite a while. Not much point to except the mount and weapons for alts.
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Entity13
11/01/19 7:25:12 PM
#332:


Crafting food is typically a must for high-end recipes. I have some HQ Matcha and Cunning Tea (food and pots stack, thankfully), so that should help my CP and Control when I catch up. I recommend looking into them, or the Command Tea if your CP is already good.
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Entity13
11/01/19 7:27:29 PM
#333:


Heck, I remember when the crafting food of choice was Bouillabaisse. Gods, I went through so much of it.

All that Bouillabaisse Bouillabaisse Bouillabaisse
All that Bouillabaisse Bouillabaisse Bouillabaisse
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agesboy
11/01/19 7:57:59 PM
#334:


Whatever gives the highest amount of CP, pretty much. It was always, by far, the most important crafting stat, to the point where you could do 2* macros the day they came out in Shadowbringers with almost nothing but CP melds.

Dunno if the overreliance on CP is still there with the new crafting stuff, though.
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Entity13
11/02/19 1:17:10 AM
#335:


Yeah, my philosophy is to meet Craftsmanship, push Control only if I can save a step from it, and otherwise go for CP. So the Cunning pot and best food (Matcha probably until a later patch?) should do it.

Then I also like to measure the potency of Advanced Touch without Inner Quiet or buffs, because I enjoy seeing how laughably easy the ARR recipes become. If CP is capped out, and I have a choice of the other two stats on an item, I will go Control because of the chance to see another level passed by Advanced Touch, just using it once.

That is when I randomly put up HQ mats on the mb. lol
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Millea
11/03/19 4:08:36 PM
#336:


Nier raid has a super uninteresting story so far, but it has the potential to get more interesting later. I wonder what they'll do with regards to all the maso everywhere.

Also the raid itself is awesome. That Weight of the World remix is great, also I didn't wanna hit 9S with my weapon, it's sad.
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papercup
11/05/19 11:26:09 AM
#337:


Yeah the raid is really fun. Just wish I could queue into it. >.>

Also, Hades EX is waaay easier than Shinryu Ex. Really if you've done like Sephirot, Neo, Chaos, Thordan, there's nothing in the fight you haven't seen before. And it gives 2 tokens per kill.

Edit: Also got my NIN to 80 yesterday and started working on WAR. Doing roulettes, pixies, daily hunts, and even doing some shb fate grinding (I'm only rank 3 in 3 zones. >_>) Makes leveling super fast and there's also a lot of variety in there so it's not boring.
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papercup
11/05/19 12:25:25 PM
#338:


...I kept DCing all throughout the Copied Factory. I must have dc'd like 4 times at the final boss. I login and the boss is dead and I'm not allowed to roll on anything. I go to the chest "This doesn't belong to you". Go fuck yourself J. Allen Brack. Make a game that works.
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papercup
11/08/19 10:30:31 AM
#339:


So our SCH/AST got everything he wanted from Savage and unsubbed with the intent to return next tier. So last night we trained a replacement. We took her from having never seen e4s before to clearing it in under 90 minutes.
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Entity13
11/09/19 3:02:16 AM
#340:


Don't you just love it when people take off when THEIR needs are met? Bah!

Anywho, I am a few days from returning to the game. My schedule is going to be wonky and exhausting.
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papercup
11/09/19 9:49:54 AM
#341:


I mean, he did tell us weeks ago he was unsubbing once he has 8 clears, and this week was our 8th clear. lol
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zebatov
11/09/19 10:52:58 AM
#342:


When FF goes back to its roots, Ill play it again. Im not buying an action-game-once-proper-JRPG.

I almost quit RE but I like the games too much.
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papercup
11/09/19 12:39:09 PM
#343:


I mean XIV is a proper FF game through and through. Even though it's an MMO, it has a lot of (really good) story, and there's a lot of recognizably FF elements. And it's definitely the best mainline FF game since the PS1, no question about that. XIV is what's keeping FF relevant in the modern games market.
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agesboy
11/10/19 2:27:37 PM
#344:


Shadowbringers is absolutely one of the best FF plots. I enjoyed some FFXI expansions more, but they also suffer gameplaywise from, uh, FFXI's archaic design.
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AllstarSniper32
11/10/19 4:33:31 PM
#345:


I was enjoying the story line of FFXIV when I played it, but it got to a point where you have to make it to a certain level but it took forever to reach that level.

ooo, my character profile can still be viewed?

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/24323463/

I wonder how long your characters keep.
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papercup
11/10/19 4:35:56 PM
#346:


So I've been thinking about future Jobs and what they could be, and here's what I think could happen. So throughout the ShB patch cycle, specifically the odd patches, we know they plant to raise BLU's level, so that in 5.5 it will be level 80. So I think either with that, or possibly in 5.4 they release another limited job. Either Beast Master or Puppet Master. BST could be either a melee that uses Maiming gear, or a tank, and it of course would have to go out and capture low level enemies and use them in attacks. Maybe even use them as pets, but I don't think there would be much variety between various monsters. Maybe there's just like a generic templates for each monster type, and different species in each type is basically just a palette swap. Or PUP could be either a magic user or a ranged, and it uses Minions as a weapon or a pet. And, again, it's mostly just aesthetics, and maybe they use the Verminion templates to determine what each minion could do. And with PUP they could possibly revamp Verminion, or add some cool rewards to it to get people to do it, possibly even unique weapons for their PUP. Alternatively they could add like really basic Pokemon-type battles with minions, kinda like WoW's pet battles I guess, but probably even simpler. But regardless of what it is, I'm fairly certain we're getting another limited job this expac.

Then, 6.0. People were mad that ShB didn't get a new healer, and they know that a new healer is what people want. So this could actually come as an alternate to a ShB limited job, like how they released NIN towards the end of ARR, but I doubt they would do that again. I could totally see Geomancer being a new healer, though what it would do, I'm not sure, but it seems the most popular pick for a new healer. Alternatively they could do Green Mage, or Necromancer. NEC would be my pick. I could totally see a system where it debuffs a boss, and attacking it leaches HP from the target to players. Or alternatively it could add like a vampire effect to players attacks as a buff to steal HP, or maybe fill up a buff gauge and turn into like a Balance equivalent or some other damage buff. So a healer comp would be WHM or SCH, and AST or NEC. And we know they want to add at least one DPS to every expac, cus DPS apparently sell expansions. (MCH is historically the least played class in the game, but sure, DPS sell expacs.) So I could see them add either a Scouting or Maiming class. Or another magic DPS. For Scouting or Maiming, Magitek Knight could be really cool I think. And we're most likely going to Garlemald next expac. So Magitek Knight would really fit that story beat I think. Maybe it's like the opposite of RDM where it's mostly a melee, and completing combos fills up a ceruleum resource gauge, and when it's filled it can do pseudo-magic attacks. And then for a new magic class, I would really like to see Spell Blade, or Runic Knight, whatever they want to call it. It would be more of a support, and it would cast spells on itself and party members to add magic damage buffs to attacks.

Then for 7.0, because at that point there will already be 19 full Jobs, and 2 or 3 limited Jobs, they'll only add one new Job, and it will be a DPS.I could totally see them either adding another melee, to round out the Maiming/Scouting/Striking sets so there are 2 jobs for each gear type. Or maybe they'll think "there are too many DoW classes, we need another mage to even things out." and we'll get yet another magic user. But what this Job could be I'm not sure. Or alternatively, what they'll do instead of adding a new Job, is they'll slowly rework the limited jobs and turn them into full jobs.

But yeah I could be completely off base on some of this, or all of this, but I really think at least some of this will happen. I think for sure the game is going to cap out at around 20 full Jobs.
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agesboy
11/10/19 4:46:21 PM
#347:


I just don't want them to totally butcher any more of my favorite jobs like they did with blue mage. I was a beastmaster main in XI. If they make it nonapplicable for the vast majority of content, I'll be pretty miffed.

papercup posted...
I could totally see a system where it debuffs a boss, and attacking it leaches HP from the target to players.

I keep hoping they'll implement some of the more interesting ideas from wow (I mained disc priest throughout most of legion, then resto druid near the end for raiding), but I really doubt any future healing classes will have significant gameplay flavor the way wow does.

I returned to wow a few days ago and it's just mindboggling how much more interesting healing is in that game. FFXIV is like an orchestrated dance, and wow is like a mosh pit. The mosh pit is WAY more variable and fun. It's just too bad the framework of the game is ass right now.
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papercup
11/10/19 4:57:51 PM
#348:


Speaking of XI, I've never played it, and it's currently on sale. I might check it out, but I don't think I really have time to play both XIV and XI. >.> But also, doesn't it still require a sub? That's kinda crazy for such an old game that barely anyone plays anymore.
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zebatov
11/10/19 6:43:09 PM
#349:


I watched my friend play it. Apparently its considered on the better side of the series.
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Nestama
11/10/19 7:02:23 PM
#350:


papercup posted...
Speaking of XI, I've never played it, and it's currently on sale. I might check it out, but I don't think I really have time to play both XIV and XI. >.> But also, doesn't it still require a sub? That's kinda crazy for such an old game that barely anyone plays anymore.

It does yes. It's also menu heavy and doesn't have any of the QoL stuff FFXIV has (no mini-map, for example).

All that said, it's still a solid Final Fantasy game. Chains of Promathia is still one of the best stories in Final Fantasy.
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papercup
11/10/19 10:07:14 PM
#351:


It does look interesting, looks like there's a lot of variety in the jobs and all that. But the UI looks like it would take a lot of getting used it. And it seems much slower paced than what I'm used to in XIV. I'm not exactly opposed to trying it, but now's not really a great time for me to get into another giant MMO.
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Entity13
11/11/19 1:32:56 AM
#352:


Hopefully it will not take long to get moved in, set up the Internet, and download the patches to FFXIV. I picked up the equipment from Xfinity today before grabbing what I estimate will be a week's worth of groceries or more.

This is going to be so nice. I hope we can get the couch up the stairs since that will help make the new apartment and my gaming all the better. Catching up in FFXIV is going to be nice and comfy.
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papercup
11/11/19 9:16:15 AM
#353:


Welcome back! The servers are down tonight for 5.11 XD
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