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Greenfox111
07/02/19 12:09:44 AM
#102:


Didnt get to play heavensward when it was the current expansion but the story at least was definitely better than stormblood

So far shb might be even better? Im only level 74 but things just seem to be moving much more quickly.
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papercup
07/02/19 9:13:02 AM
#103:


I'm gonna have to see the rest of the story before I decide if liked it more than HW. But, yes, what I have seen so far blows Stormblood out of the water. And also, the zones are soooo good. Stormblood zones I never really had a desire to revisit them after I completed the story. I'm really digging the high fantasy almost fairytale themes, I could see myself getting lost exploring these zones for hours.
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Entity13
07/02/19 11:46:10 AM
#104:


papercup posted...
Stormblood zones I never really had a desire to revisit them after I completed the story.


I did on Othard side. Even when I had nothing to do I liked to just hang out or fly around those three zones. Compare to the Gyr Abanian zones, and... yeah, no thanks. We can burn down The Lochs and I wouldn't miss it.

Between this and the shortcomings on actual content, I like to blame Eureka, especially Pagos.

papercup posted...
But, yes, what I have seen so far blows Stormblood out of the water.


StB could and should have been better than it was, but other than the one setback in the beginning when Xenos attacked Reach and let what was left of it stand (so hey, let's keep using it!) I didn't feel like there was much of a conflict so much as a series of hurdles. Not unless you count the arc in the Steppe. That Little Sun was not enough, however.
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papercup
07/02/19 1:45:32 PM
#105:


welp the spoilers in FC chat continue! Rioka told us there's only 1 dungeon after the final trial. What happened to "there will be 9 dungeons at launch"? Because if what he said is true, that means I only count 7 dungeons.
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papercup
07/02/19 7:51:49 PM
#106:


Stuck at the first 79 quest, but I'm still close to leveling. I'm debating about logging back in tonight to try to finish the MSQ (I assume I'm getting close?) Or do it tomorrow.

God this story is fantastic, and they're setting up story hooks for the (supposedly) last 2 expansions. I'm seriously still guessing what the final boss could be. lol
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papercup
07/02/19 7:55:30 PM
#107:


Entity13 posted...
Between this and the shortcomings on actual content, I like to blame Eureka, especially Pagos.


Well hopefully they learned some valuable lessons about how to design that content. They did say there will be more Eureka-like content in ShB. I really hope we get to see more of the creative, fantastical regions of Norvrandt throughout the patch cycle.
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papercup
07/03/19 7:21:00 PM
#108:


I'm pretty sure I'm at the end. Unlocked the level 80 MSQ dungeon I believe. The 79 dungeon and trial were both awesome! And the story! I really want to see how it ends, but I was on for like 7 hours. >.>
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papercup
07/04/19 1:01:05 AM
#109:


I beat the final MSQ boss.

HOLY SHIT THAT WAS AMAZING.
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agesboy
07/05/19 11:38:51 AM
#110:


Everything about the final dungeon and the final trial gives me chills.

Did the dungeon with trusts. As the city collapsed around the party, Ryne was like "The buildings are collapsing, we won't make it!" Thancred: "Oh, we'll make it. He wants to show us something." :(

The fact that this scene burned itself into Emet's mind so vividly he could recreate it so hellishly perfect. He's so far beyond regular grief at this point, but you can tell it still hurts him.

The final words of the trial.... "That light will split the world, and every life upon it! Our tragedy must never again come to pass!"

Just everything about Emet was perfect. His hatred of us was perfectly understandable considering we're all imperfect shades of his people. All incapable of achieving the utopia his people had already built and thrived in due to our own faults. No doubt thousands of times he had held out hope for fragmented humanity, and thousands of time he'd been let down.

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papercup
07/05/19 12:01:49 PM
#111:


Emet was an amazing villain. Although he's evil as hell, you can still empathize with him and you understand where he's coming from. Natsuko Ishikawa is an incredible writer. There are so many moments in Shadowbringers that just punch you in the gut. Square needs to give her a giant raise. lol Maybe they'll give her all future MSQ? Or maybe even give her XVI's story to write?
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papercup
07/05/19 12:46:42 PM
#112:


Oh good, killed Formidable from about 60%. no credit. -_- might as well not have not. Thanks Yoshi!
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TheWitchMorgana
07/05/19 4:57:21 PM
#113:


im so slow. all my friends are approaching 80 now and i'm not even 72 yet
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AllstarSniper32
07/07/19 6:32:21 AM
#114:


TheWitchMorgana posted...
im so slow. all my friends are approaching 80 now and i'm not even 72 yet

Time to do power grinding!
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papercup
07/07/19 1:01:50 PM
#115:


Cleared one of the Extreme trials last night. Now to do the other and farm farm farm
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Nade Duck
07/07/19 1:09:04 PM
#116:


can't wait to get the new gnome heritage armor.
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TheWitchMorgana
07/07/19 2:37:28 PM
#117:


AllstarSniper32 posted...
TheWitchMorgana posted...
im so slow. all my friends are approaching 80 now and i'm not even 72 yet

Time to do power grinding!

thankfully its a lot easier with the trust system haha
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papercup
07/07/19 3:53:08 PM
#118:


Nade Duck posted...
can't wait to get the new gnome heritage armor.


Why do that when you can wear FF4 dwarf armor and greet people with a big "Lali-ho!"?
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papercup
07/07/19 9:13:12 PM
#119:


Also, can I just say that this entire dungeon was awesome, then you get to the boss, and are greeted with this, and it's just cool af? Also the lore for it is really cool, and it explains some things in the story!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rCvv1_hP-k" data-time="

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agesboy
07/07/19 11:25:59 PM
#120:


about that dungeon: https://i.redd.it/djomf05qc6831.png

its great
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papercup
07/07/19 11:54:51 PM
#121:


lmao, I wonder how far back they planned that. The kettle stuff was really weird in SB.
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papercup
07/08/19 1:15:41 AM
#122:


Woot got my Titania lance.
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papercup
07/08/19 3:16:06 PM
#123:


"frog fate is up instance 1!" so I go to kholusia 1, nothing there. I'm like "is it dead?" "nope, not pulled yet" "there's nothing here" "instance 1" "I'm in instance 1" then 5 minutes later that person links the frog suit...

THAT'S NOT THE FROG FATE. When you say frog FATE I assume you mean the FATE where you fight a giant frog and gives a frog mount. -_-
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Entity13
07/08/19 4:10:01 PM
#124:


papercup posted...
"frog fate is up instance 1!" so I go to kholusia 1, nothing there. I'm like "is it dead?" "nope, not pulled yet" "there's nothing here" "instance 1" "I'm in instance 1" then 5 minutes later that person links the frog suit...

THAT'S NOT THE FROG FATE. When you say frog FATE I assume you mean the FATE where you fight a giant frog and gives a frog mount. -_-


I'm pretty sure people like that can be reported for dickish behavior. It sucks that anyone would do that, really.
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papercup
07/09/19 12:36:44 AM
#125:


And Innocence down! Got the str earrings!
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Entity13
07/09/19 12:54:00 AM
#126:


papercup posted...
And Innocence down! Got the str earrings!


GG

Now if only I had the means to play this game again. Rioka says he has a spare CE, PS4 version, lying around that he'd send my way once I'm situated, so there's that at least. I still need to get on while my sub is active so I can prevent housing demo, because it may be a while before someone in Olympia/Lacey/Tumwater, WA, hires me... or a while before my book starts to sell (waiting on the cover image from my big sis). Once I can play the expansion I will have a lot of catching up to do on Aster and Lyra.

<_<
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papercup
07/09/19 1:54:01 PM
#127:


https://i.redd.it/mvhfbzht9a931.jpg

at this rate 7.0 will have perfect 10s across the board.

Also, speaking of 7.0... I have a sneaking suspicion that at some point we're going to realize "the ascians were right all along" then in 7.0 the zones will be the other 5 shards we haven't been to yet, and then finally go to the Moon where we'll kill Zodiark and maybe Hydaelyn.
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Entity13
07/09/19 2:43:57 PM
#128:


papercup posted...
https://i.redd.it/mvhfbzht9a931.jpg

at this rate 7.0 will have perfect 10s across the board.

Also, speaking of 7.0... I have a sneaking suspicion that at some point we're going to realize "the ascians were right all along" then in 7.0 the zones will be the other 5 shards we haven't been to yet, and then finally go to the Moon where we'll kill Zodiark and maybe Hydaelyn.


I have a feeling that the in-story ending will shadow VI and we'll lose the ability to have any magic or similar abilities once Zodiark and Hydaelyn are gone... unless we pray really hard for a new primal to take their place. Then, while we play in the game world, we'll basically be "before that final sacrifice" again until we go to redo the final fight.

I don't really know if this will be the case, however, but it won't surprise me if so.
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papercup
07/09/19 7:26:29 PM
#129:


Also when we go to the Moon (because we know for sure we have to go there eventually) there had better be a Zemus/Zeromus raid.

I'm guessing 6.0 we're going to Garlemald and the surrounding areas. I don't know if we're ever going to go to Thavnair, Meracydia or the New World. At least not in the first "season" of FFXIV(which I assume is ending in 7.0, since they said they had the story planned out that far ahead). We *might* see Sharlayan proper since it's so important to the story and lore? But, I assume they're going to make further expansions after the Zodiark/Hydaelyn story wraps up, because the game might retain its popularity that long. I doubt they'd be as big as current expansions. At least not story wise, they might just add new zones and dungeons and raids. We'll see!
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papercup
07/10/19 3:34:01 PM
#130:


Almost 80 on my DRK! DRK feels completely different. Dark Arts still exists, but it's just a proc that lets you use one of the buff spells for free now when your Blackest Night breaks. Although I hear that its dps is on the loooow side, so it will probably be getting some buffs.

After that, I'm gonna level WHM I think, then RDM so I have one of every roll leveled, then I'm just gonna level whatever. Probably DNC, then MCH.

Also, I love the changes to DRG. To compensate the removal of piercing and nerfs to Litany, they buffed the HELL out of its personal dps. It just does stupid damage now lol. I died at Innocence, and I still pulled 10.6k and got a 77 parse XD. But Innocence is just a piss easy boss tbqh.
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papercup
07/11/19 10:24:51 AM
#131:


https://imgur.com/kzdTmlt So when are we rejoining with Unukalhai?
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lorekai
07/11/19 11:21:53 AM
#132:


I recently started playing, just reached the first dungeon. I'm having a lot of fun with the game so far.
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TheWitchMorgana
07/11/19 11:53:57 AM
#133:


papercup posted...
https://imgur.com/kzdTmlt So when are we rejoining with Unukalhai?

thats who i thought crystal exarch was at first lol
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papercup
07/11/19 12:29:57 PM
#134:


Yay my router crashed right before I killed archaeotania! Because I would have fucking hated to get the kill credit!

At least I got my armored DRK mount right before then... ;-;
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KogaSteelfang
07/11/19 6:21:09 PM
#135:


Just finished Shadowbringers a while ago. That was great! A bit disappointed that now that I have to level the trust npc's to do the higher level ones again.
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papercup
07/11/19 6:26:35 PM
#136:


KogaSteelfang posted...
Just finished Shadowbringers a while ago. That was great! A bit disappointed that now that I have to level the trust npc's to do the higher level ones again.


I actually haven't used the trust system yet XD. I hear completing the MSQ actually removed some NPCs from it?? Also I hear that maxing a trust's level unlocks a costume change.
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KogaSteelfang
07/11/19 8:33:40 PM
#137:


Yeah, beat the main quest line removes some of the npc's, and locks you out if ones you could do previously until you level them up again. I don't know about the costume change though.
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AllstarSniper32
07/11/19 8:36:06 PM
#138:


lorekai posted...
I recently started playing, just reached the first dungeon. I'm having a lot of fun with the game so far.

I remember when I reached the first or maybe second dungeon a few months ago, the people who joined it said they hadn't played that dungeon in, I swear they said years XD
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Entity13
07/12/19 1:16:17 AM
#139:


I have watched some msq and role quest videos so getting to 80 will be faster for me when I can finally play again. How soon that happens depends on getting a job here in WA and people buying my book. I so want to play again.
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papercup
07/12/19 3:36:57 PM
#140:


Healing is hard now. Healed Holminster this morning. We wiped to trash twice and it was entirely my fault. >.>
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papercup
07/12/19 3:58:17 PM
#141:


Also, here's the thing. FFXIV is the first game EVER to possibly topple WoW as the king of subscription MMOs. People are leaving WoW in droves to play Shadowbringers. ShB is doing gangbusters right now. it's the most popular FFXIV has ever been. It's the highest rated game of 2019. Squenix is promoting the FUCK out of it. FFXIV is in a phenomenal spot right now. However. WoW Classic is coming out in like a month and a half. I fully expect WoW Classic is going to blow ShB out of the water. I think Classic is going to smash Twitch viewing records. It's going to smash modern WoW sub numbers.

Now where it goes from there who can say. They've said Classic won't get content patches. Who knows if they'll do TBC or Wrath servers eventually. It's entirely possible Classic won't last in popularity.

And I have never played WoW, and just knowing the history of the game and how popular it was in the past, I expect these things to happen. Hell, I might even try Classic.
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Nade Duck
07/12/19 4:27:52 PM
#142:


i really wanna play classic even though i feel like i never wanna play again.

also i think the latest news about content patches for classic was that it wasn't completely impossible, just a reeeeeeeeeeeeeally far down the line thing that depends on how well classic is doing, and probably if they feel like it at the time.

honestly, kinda don't want them to. i feel like they wouldn't know how to make it as good as it should be at this point and it would probably fuck up the classic servers they already took forever to make. don't really wanna wait on vanilla 3.0
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papercup
07/12/19 6:52:14 PM
#143:


That's like the weird thing about the Classic situation. If they do make new content for it... how far would/could they go? New battlegrounds? New raids? Could they make new Classic expansions? That would be extremely weird.
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AllstarSniper32
07/12/19 9:41:33 PM
#144:


papercup posted...
I think Classic is going to smash Twitch viewing records.

I don't think this is going to happen. I feel like most of the people who played WoW that would have liked Classic have moved on from it. I think one of the reasons WoW was so huge was because it had non-gamer people playing it at it's height.

Also, I dunno how people can even watch WoW streams.
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Entity13
07/13/19 1:11:59 AM
#145:


papercup posted...
Healing is hard now. Healed Holminster this morning. We wiped to trash twice and it was entirely my fault. >.>


Yeah, see, I miss being able to dps regularly on healers. It's one of the reasons I fell in love with FFXIV. It is part of what I loved in City of Heroes/Villains. The gutting of healer dps makes me want to actually play healers less once I have leveled them. Heck, there is a reason I healed as little as possible in Eureka.

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agesboy
07/13/19 3:56:29 AM
#146:


you still dps most of the time in raids at least. dungeons are ass but raids is about the same, just less depth

https://www.fflogs.com/reports/WMR9ZmBw23fKCyHD#boss=-2&difficulty=0&wipes=2&type=casts&source=4

this was with me doing about double the heals of the other healer

Entity13 posted...
Maybe something will change down the road, but Yoshi shouldn't have eliminated Protect, for one thing. Once I play the game again it'll be straight-up tanking or dps for me.

the defensive aspect of protect is now just baked into everyone automatically without it having to be cast. literally the only thing that changes is that you don't have to waste a gcd reapplying it when someone dies. same thing with tank stances no longer providing damage mitigation.... that damage mitigation is just baseline now.
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papercup
07/14/19 10:50:35 PM
#147:


On a whim I decided to try some savage Coils just to see if I could solo them. I knew going in that Melusine and Nael would not be possible. So I tried Rafflesia. I totally solo'd Rafflesia (Savage) on dragoon lol
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agesboy
07/15/19 2:20:52 AM
#148:


Average DPS for dps classes was like 400-600 back in those days (I very specifically remember hitting 500~ then later 800~ DPS in turn 4, which was fight with many enemies at once, on blm and smn). These days, DPS can reach 12000 singletarget and even healers range from 4000 (average sch/ast) to 8000 (REALLY good whm). It's actually trivial lol.

Heavensward on the other hand.... doable but hard from a survival standpoint. Tankbusters hurt but you can still live through them. Got further than I'd thought on my first try with sch in ravana ex. The butterflies still died in one art of war, but the constant tankbusters around 60% eventually killed me because I was being lazy with healing myself.

Stats are roughly increasing more linearly than exponentially so we can't guaranteed solo everything two expansions back like in WoW, but at least we won't have to have stat squishes for a while.
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lorekai
07/16/19 5:55:23 AM
#149:


Out of curiosity, what servers does everyone play on? I'm on Crystal in Mateus as that's where some people I know play.
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papercup
07/16/19 9:29:02 AM
#150:


I'm on Gilgamesh server in Aether data center
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Entity13
07/16/19 11:43:23 AM
#151:


papercup posted...
I'm on Gilgamesh server in Aether data center


Same, technically, despite my limiting circumstances.
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