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foolm0r0n
07/15/19 10:36:40 AM
#351:


Vlado posted...
Actually, I first heard it as "20% of the employees do 80% of the work" and got interested in the numbers because I'd noticed by then that they applied to many other things.

Please explain your 80/20 rule again. And then read this again.

You can't just say "lol" when you don't understand something. Reality doesn't just magically go away when you feel bad.

Vlado posted...
My question is what makes something "racist," and why is something being "racist" a bad thing.

I know what your question was because I can read. And I'm saying you can tell me why American nationalism is racist and bad, because you yourself reject American nationalism for those reasons.
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Mr Lasastryke
07/15/19 11:11:29 AM
#352:


https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/07/10/lion-king-is-fascistic-story-no-remake-can-change-that/

lol i know this dude. he used to teach at the university of amsterdam.
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Mr Lasastryke
07/15/19 3:29:13 PM
#353:


"it's so terrible that leftist snowflakes always accuse their opponents of being racists! we must fight against PC culture!"

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1150732346099978240

If Democrats want to unite around the foul language & racist hatred spewed from the mouths and actions of these very unpopular & unrepresentative Congresswomen...

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foolm0r0n
07/15/19 3:33:53 PM
#354:


He's only using "racist" as a political tool to attack his opponents so it's okay. He doesn't actually dislike racism. Just like the Democrats.
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Mr Lasastryke
07/15/19 3:42:21 PM
#355:


foolm0r0n posted...
He's only using "racist" as a political tool to attack his opponents so it's okay. He doesn't actually dislike racism. Just like the Democrats.


well yeah, i get that. the guy who is on record as saying a gazillion racist things is probably not entirely genuine when he claims to have a problem with racism.

but i'm curious what the muffins of the world, who always go "WAHHHHH THIS IS TERRIBLE PC CULTURE ETC." whenever a leftist criticizes trump for being racist, have to say about this. do we need to fight against PC culture at all times? or do we ONLY need to do this when trump gets attacked?
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foolm0r0n
07/15/19 3:46:38 PM
#356:


I'm telling you, that's the difference. Trump is an overt racist who is just virtue signaling anti-racism for political gain, which is a valid 4d chess strategy. People who call him racist are genuinely worried about racism though (except Democrats who are also just virtue signaling).
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Vlado
07/15/19 4:02:06 PM
#357:


foolm0r0n posted...
I know what your question was because I can read.

Then answer it.
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foolm0r0n
07/15/19 4:11:30 PM
#358:


I did, very precisely in fact. I would advise you to just admit defeat and post "lol" to this one as well.
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Vlado
07/15/19 4:13:57 PM
#359:


1. What makes something "racist"?
2. Why is something being "racist" a bad thing?
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foolm0r0n
07/15/19 4:23:40 PM
#360:


1. The part of American nationalism that makes you reject it
2. You reject it
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SmartMuffin
07/15/19 4:32:26 PM
#361:


He's only using "racist" as a political tool to attack his opponents


The word "racist" hasn't been used as anything other than this since like, the 1980s.
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Jakyl25
07/15/19 4:42:13 PM
#362:


Reagan solved racism, you heard it here first
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SmartMuffin
07/15/19 4:49:21 PM
#363:


It has little to do with the issue being "solved" or not, and everything to do with the left intentionally expanding it to include everything from "literal KKK lynching" to "failure of a white professor to voluntarily and enthusiastically abandon his job for a day because the students demanded all whites leave campus"

The word is now meaningless.
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Mr Lasastryke
07/15/19 4:54:54 PM
#364:


SmartMuffin posted...
It has little to do with the issue being "solved" or not, and everything to do with the left intentionally expanding it to include everything from "literal KKK lynching" to "failure of a white professor to voluntarily and enthusiastically abandon his job for a day because the students demanded all whites leave campus"

The word is now meaningless.


literally attacking the left for devaluing the word "racism" when trump just did this. thanks for proving my point.
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Vlado
07/15/19 4:59:02 PM
#365:


foolm0r0n posted...
1. The part of American nationalism that makes you reject it
2. You reject it

That's not an answer. Thanks for putting so much importance on me in your head. But I'm hardly the definer of such a widely-used word's meaning.
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foolm0r0n
07/15/19 6:48:41 PM
#366:


SmartMuffin posted...
The word is now meaningless.

It still triggers racists really hard which is undeniably meaningful
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foolm0r0n
07/15/19 6:54:10 PM
#367:


Vlado posted...
But I'm hardly the definer of such a widely-used word's meaning.

Uh yes you are. You choose the definition of all the words that you use. It's arguably your favorite thing. I'm just speaking your language.
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MoogleKupo141
07/16/19 9:06:18 PM
#368:


https://twitter.com/justinglawe/status/1151230405741371394?s=21

apparently trump has been doing a long con to make Democrats look bad by uh... knowing a dude was a pedophile and letting him get away with it for 17 years? Q Anon people are incredible.
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foolm0r0n
07/17/19 12:39:04 AM
#369:


He's spent his entire life raping so, so many kids just to own Clinton. What a huge sacrifice. Stronger than any of us here put together.
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Mr Lasastryke
07/17/19 8:46:40 AM
#370:


...are these people aware of the fact that trump was, actually, a democrat in 2002?
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foolm0r0n
07/17/19 9:35:01 AM
#371:


2015*
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SmartMuffin
07/17/19 10:15:29 PM
#372:


https://twitter.com/SanaSaeed/status/1151643887842340865

uh oh you naughty Trump supporters

Now you've gone too far and the media is going to start calling you fascist and racist. Not like they ever did before!
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TheRock1525
07/17/19 10:17:22 PM
#373:


You should probably stop acting like racists and fascists. That would help.
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SmartMuffin
07/17/19 10:18:17 PM
#374:


You can't credibly threaten someone with "If you do X, I'm going to call you a bad name" when you've already been calling them a bad name non-stop for the last four years.
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SmartMuffin
07/18/19 6:12:45 PM
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SmartMuffin
07/18/19 8:41:14 PM
#376:


https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/07/18/dem-rep-omar-responds-to-send-her-back-chant-we-are-fighting-for-what-america-should-be/

lol, this sounds like an outright admission that what Trump and his supporters don't like about her is her ideas, not her race or gender

Omar said, If I was wearing a MAGA hat, if there was a Somali person wearing a MAGA hat, they would not be deported. But because I criticized the president, I should be deported.


what a self-own
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TheRock1525
07/18/19 8:46:53 PM
#377:


Or that she'd be "one of the good ones" among immigrants.
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Inviso
07/18/19 8:48:44 PM
#378:


TheRock1525 posted...
Or that she'd be "one of the good ones" among immigrants.


Yeah, if she wore a MAGA hat, she would be one of the people that dipshits like Smuffin point to, to say that Trump isn't racist and cares about minorities.
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Mr Lasastryke
07/19/19 10:02:08 AM
#379:


SmartMuffin posted...
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/07/18/dem-rep-omar-responds-to-send-her-back-chant-we-are-fighting-for-what-america-should-be/

lol, this sounds like an outright admission that what Trump and his supporters don't like about her is her ideas, not her race or gender

Omar said, If I was wearing a MAGA hat, if there was a Somali person wearing a MAGA hat, they would not be deported. But because I criticized the president, I should be deported.


what a self-own


first of all, lol breitbart.

second of all, this is total bullshit. just because trump's misogyny doesn't go so far that he hates 100% of women (including the ones wearing MAGA hats) doesn't automatically mean he's not a misogynist.

obviously, if omar and bernie would both wear MAGA hats, trump wouldn't attack either of them. but bernie and omar BOTH hold "radical" positions (and bernie has said more radical things than omar, arguably), and trump is ONLY going "GET OUT OF THIS COUNTRY" to omar. why is that? (and don't give me the "well omar wasn't born in the US and bernie was" bullshit excuse. there's no reason at all why "if you don't like this country, you can leave" logic would only apply to US citizens who weren't born in the US.)
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SmartMuffin
07/19/19 5:30:57 PM
#380:


first of all, lol breitbart.


Are you accusing them of misquoting her?

Because that's literally the only part of the article I'm referring to.
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Mr Lasastryke
07/19/19 8:13:04 PM
#381:


no, i'm saying i find it impossible to take any breitbart article seriously. you might as well have linked to infowars.
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SmartMuffin
07/19/19 8:27:17 PM
#382:


Yeah, if Infowars accurately quoted her and my only point was to refer to the quote, I might as well have.
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Mr Lasastryke
07/19/19 8:31:00 PM
#383:


i'm definitely not going to assume a quote in a breitbart (or infowars) article is accurate.
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SmartMuffin
07/19/19 10:07:01 PM
#384:


so you... ARE accusing them of misquoting her?
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Mr Lasastryke
07/19/19 10:07:49 PM
#385:


no, i'm approaching the quote with a healthy dose of skepticism.
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foolm0r0n
07/19/19 10:41:14 PM
#386:


SmartMuffin posted...
You can't credibly threaten someone with "If you do X, I'm going to call you a bad name" when you've already been calling them a bad name non-stop for the last four years.

How do you credibly call someone a racist who has been saying "I'm a racist" for 4 years?
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foolm0r0n
07/19/19 10:47:39 PM
#387:


The problem is you still think racism is imaginary and only used as a social slap on the wrist, instead of being a very basic observation of reality.

Well not really, when Trump calls someone a racist you fully understand it's meaning and get super righteous and offended. It's more an example of your malleable worldview.
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SmartMuffin
07/20/19 1:34:13 PM
#388:


After abandoning "build the wall" as too politically complex to achieve, Trump seems to have set himself a new goal of "Get some D-list black rapper released from Swedish prison for assaulting people", which I'm sure will win him the middle class white votes he needs to retain Wisconsin and Ohio.
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MoogleKupo141
07/20/19 1:48:13 PM
#389:


ASAP rocky is not d list how dare you
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Jakyl25
07/20/19 1:56:33 PM
#390:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
ASAP rocky is not d list how dare you

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SmartMuffin
07/20/19 2:17:00 PM
#391:


speaking of d-list rappers, this is actually p hilarious

https://twitter.com/SonnyBunch/status/1152606832831213568
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SmartMuffin
07/21/19 12:01:45 PM
#392:


https://www.thedailybeast.com/inside-baseball-hall-of-famer-mariano-riveras-secret-far-right-politics

If you're a conservative - they hate you.

Even if you're a minority foreigner who grew up in poverty.

Even if you stay quiet and keep your beliefs to yourself.

Even if you go out of your way to keep your beliefs hidden such that the only way anybody will ever know about them is by launching a thorough investigation.
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Jakyl25
07/21/19 12:06:18 PM
#393:


I mean, sure? I hate conservatives. Its not something I hide.
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Mr Lasastryke
07/21/19 12:22:23 PM
#394:


i'm not sure why any of that matters. or if muffin has different standards. does he not hate socialists if they're "minority foreigners who grew up in poverty" or "keep their beliefs to themselves"? disgusting opinions are disgusting opinions.
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foolm0r0n
07/21/19 1:34:06 PM
#395:


As a minority conservative who grew up poor that is absolutely the reason why I have treated most liberals and """conservatives""" the same and vice versa. They are at their core white supremacist pro authority elitists. They just disagree about certain details.
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foolm0r0n
07/21/19 1:41:14 PM
#396:


Muffin does this weird thing though where he will construct a theory (e.g. "if you're an immigrant you are immune to all liberal criticism") and then find dozens of counter examples that disprove it, and the conclusion is that the counter examples are hypocritical or stupid.

It's like saying 2+2=5 then writing an entire dissertation about how mathematics is wrong because basic addition says 2+2 is not 5.

It's like some super advanced form of strawman, where you believe the strawman that you built in 10 seconds following an emotional gut reaction is undeniably real, and it's actually everything else in the world that is wrong.
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foolm0r0n
07/23/19 9:25:20 AM
#397:


The New York Times: Federal Budget Would Raise Spending by $320 Billion.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/22/us/politics/budget-deal.html

But at least he openly hates brown people!
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Vlado
07/29/19 8:31:31 AM
#398:


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Vlado
07/29/19 8:36:06 AM
#399:


SmartMuffin posted...
https://twitter.com/ArthurSchwartz/status/1151975125690003456

lol, nice one.

Still waiting to see foolmo answer these, btw:

Vlado posted...
1. What makes something "racist"?
2. Why is something being "racist" a bad thing?

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Maniac64
07/29/19 8:39:09 AM
#400:


SmartMuffin posted...
After abandoning "build the wall" as too politically complex to achieve, Trump seems to have set himself a new goal of "Get some D-list black rapper released from Swedish prison for assaulting people", which I'm sure will win him the middle class white votes he needs to retain Wisconsin and Ohio.

Kanye told him to do it and Trump is easily influenced.
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