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Kaxon
07/13/19 4:30:55 AM
#301:


Yeah, I tried the stealing it after he used it thing in a couple runs. But there were also a couple times I completely missed my chance to steal because I forgot to keep Zack/Aerith ready to do it and I blew through the phase too fast. In my successful run he just never got a chance to cast death. It's a weird fight where phase 1 is 20 seconds and the other phases are 2 seconds each.
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Xuxon
07/13/19 7:44:06 PM
#302:


whew, got Baku down. Aeris, Elarra, Kuja, Zidane, Vivi. failed first try, then i remembered i hadn't spent any of the Magia i farmed for the IX guys. also made necro countdown to be sure and i'm out of rubies.
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Kaxon
07/13/19 8:29:35 PM
#303:


Yep, I left that one for the last minute too, but luckily it was pretty easy with Cloud, Zack, Zidane, Eiko, and Quina.
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Xuxon
07/13/19 8:44:29 PM
#304:


too bad they delayed full throttle, or else i could have done something similar
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Ultimaphazon
07/15/19 3:23:22 PM
#305:


After doing the Safer Sephiroth CM, I actually felt motivated to tackle D??? Jenova. I probably could have done this a while ago, but I never really felt like attempting it seriously.

UuNzqDm

I'm pretty damn stacked, but it's my first AASB-less sub-30, so I'm still very happy.
Tifa USB2+AOSB - dps
Zack CSB, USB - Boostga, chain building and called the magicite
Shelke - Entrustbot
Aerith USB2 - Dispel and Hastega as her abilities
Sephiroth - USB1, USB2, AOSB

Zack had DMT, then went LS, LS, Chain, so the boostga would last until the end.

Shelke started with Mako Might, entrusted to Sephiroth right away, then entrusted anything else to Aerith. She also IC'd the realm chain on turns 3 to overwrite Zack's wind chain.

Tifa started with Earthen Rebuke, then spammed Ironfist Earth once the USB2 was up.

Sephiroth spammed Demon's Cross, then after trance triggered, USB1->USB2, then more DC spam and AOSB.
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Kaxon
07/16/19 1:55:07 PM
#306:


Got Marche USB off the daily draw. Might be time to see if I can finally sub 30 Cuchulainn.
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mccheyne
07/16/19 2:02:10 PM
#307:


Marche USB is a staple in both my Deathgaze team, and T2 Queklain. I got 41 seconds on Queklain, but that was before any 5* magicites, and now I have at least 2 Madeens I could slot in there. But yeah, QC1 after each knight ability of his is quite sweet. You got a great pickup there!
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Ultimaphazon
07/16/19 2:17:24 PM
#308:


Marche USB is a relic I've wanted for a long time. Might actually be worth picking up with my first 1000 lenses, which I should have by the end of week.
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Kaxon
07/16/19 7:26:44 PM
#309:


Yeah, it was definitely on my list for Anima lenses.

Dream select is finally coming tonight, what's everyone getting? I bought another leviathan pouch so I guess I'm doing 3. Mine are most likely:
- Cloud Glint
- Tyro USB4
- Rydia AOSB

Anything else I should consider? Maybe I should get an LM instead of Rydia's AOSB, but it does hit 3 elements and I like Rydia.
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
07/16/19 7:31:12 PM
#310:


Marche USB is still surprisingly good for how old it is, despite being obsolete by Lightning USB3. He's a MVP against Deathgaze with all those short dooms you have to deal with.

Dream Selects are tonight! I'll be pulling on AOSB, LM and USB.

LM will be easy since Rinoa dualcast will finally be added.

USB I'm thinking Quistis or Y'shtola USB2, Quistis can take over for OK when he's going offensive and that would probably let me get the sub30 on the torment, but I'm concerned it won't be useful the future because Quistis doesn't have any enelement (well besides lolbio) and will be worthless in the 6* era since she can't entrust.

AOSB is more tricky. OK would be the easy choice since it covers 4 elements, but won't hold up in *6 Magicite. Kain is probably the best choice because I got his awakening.
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
07/16/19 9:05:52 PM
#311:


Dream

2/11

Rajin LMR
Squall OSB

LM

1/11

Beatrix infusion LMR

AOB

4/11 3 discos!

Shelke BSB (dupe)
Strago OSB (dupe)
Eiko USB1 -new but uh I was planning to get the FF9 full throttle...
Gladiolus USB

Not that bad, could have been better but could have been much worse (which I was expecting with how luck seems to have plummeted recently...)
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Kaxon
07/16/19 9:29:11 PM
#312:


SSJSephirothGokuX123 posted...
LM will be easy since Rinoa dualcast will finally be added.


I definitely wanted that one before but now... it's not that relevant unless I get her awakening. And it's also on the banner where her awakening appears.

I'm thinking maybe Rydia's en-earth LMR since I have her awakening... although she hardly needs it to cap summons right now, but it'll keep her future proof for 6* magicite.
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
07/16/19 10:57:05 PM
#313:


There will be Awakening selects in the future though so you can get it there as well if you want to skip that banner. Even if I don't have an Awakening for her it will help with torment and Typhon farming, she's been kinda of a liability because of her lack of dualcast.

She might even help beat ice weak Odin since I have her brave and Terra can't do anything once her Awakening runs out.

Also I think there's a 500 gem Brave USB select coming up soon (around the time the KH3 event dropped in in Japan) You can get Rydia's earth brave so you don't need her enearth LMR.
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Kaxon
07/17/19 1:59:08 AM
#314:


Too late, I already took Rydia's LM. Didn't know about the brave select, but being able to get train moving with just one SB instead of two is definitely a bonus.

When we finally get the Awakening select I assume there'll be another LMR select so I could just take Rinoa's then, if I grab her awakening. Anyway, here are my pulls:

USB - 1/11 - Steiner Glint, chose Tyro USB4
LMR - 2/11 - Dupe Rubicant BSB, Orlandu LMR2!, chose Rydia en-earth
AOSB - 4/11 - Dupe Zanshin, Fang enwind LMR, Krile enearth LMR, Prische LMR, chose Rydia

Still kinda considering doing the fun in the sun (I'd have to do 50 mythril and one gem pull) to get Y'shtola's USB. I probably don't do the glint select for Cloud since it's just too much money at this point.
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Kaxon
07/17/19 4:01:37 AM
#315:


I also did the fun in the sun draw because I'm a sucker...

1/11 - Rinoa ice brave
2/11 - Yuna USB, Yuna glint

No dupes, but not too exciting - I already have Rinoa's USB1 so her earth brave would have been a lot more useful. Ramza and Vaan's USBs were my top two wants on the banner. But still, two new USBs and a glint for decent characters, and I picked up Y'shtola's USB2. Need to see if I can figure out how to do Ultima Weapon (XIV) with pretty decent (pre-awakening) tools but no elemental focus.
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mccheyne
07/17/19 10:15:53 AM
#316:


I'm kinda unsure here, I did the two 50 mythril draws already, fully anticipating pulling Tyro USB4. Though if I do that in the USB select instead, I can technically select something else (or vice versa, since Tyro's is on both). Aeris USB2 has always eluded me and would likely help against Jenova (have a bunch of Cloud stuff, and Sephiroth AASB/USB2).
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RPGlord95
07/17/19 10:30:29 AM
#317:


3/11 on USB

Yang AOSB
Vanilla USB 3?
Ingus LM

Selected Tyro USB4
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RPGlord95
07/17/19 10:31:15 AM
#318:


The Vanille one seems sick. Full Break all foes and regenga etc
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mccheyne
07/17/19 10:37:46 AM
#319:


I'm also considering the BSB one, specifically for Ignis. Or is that in the lenses shop?
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RPGlord95
07/17/19 10:57:53 AM
#320:


I was told Ignis will be in lenses shop next time they add stuff. No idea when that is
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Ultimaphazon
07/17/19 10:58:19 AM
#321:


mccheyne posted...
I'm also considering the BSB one, specifically for Ignis. Or is that in the lenses shop?

Not yet, but it will be in 3-4 months.
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Xuxon
07/17/19 11:01:33 AM
#322:


mccheyne posted...
I'm also considering the BSB one, specifically for Ignis. Or is that in the lenses shop?

it's there in JP, not for us yet. so it should be selectable by the end of the year, at least.

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mccheyne
07/17/19 11:06:03 AM
#323:


Got it, I'll likely hold off on his then. Got plenty of options regardless, and will end up having Tyro USB4, so it's not exactly a pressing need.

Now it's just to debate what to select on the USB select, when I do it. Aeris USB2, Vivi USB, something else that I haven't looked at yet.

Likely will do the LMR one too, though no idea what to select for that. Cloud enwind maybe.

Maaaay do glint if Cloud 6* is on it.
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
07/17/19 11:19:44 AM
#324:


You can get Vivi USB from anima lens so don't bother, ability double is mostly obsolete by awakenings these days.

Get something for torment or boosting, or a holy mage DPS for Ark.
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mccheyne
07/17/19 11:34:44 AM
#325:


Yeah the holy mage is definitely a good call, because I have no idea how I'm going to take down Ark yet. I haven't really fully looked at my holy magic options yet, though I think I have Hope USB lol
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Kaxon
07/17/19 12:36:14 PM
#326:


RPGlord95 posted...
I was told Ignis will be in lenses shop next time they add stuff. No idea when that is


I don't think it's worth it, especially if you just got Tyro's. I got it last time and I've barely used it.
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Kaxon
07/17/19 11:45:15 PM
#327:


Alright, I want to get serious about finishing torments. Here's my current status (hope this formatting works):

I - Villanous Cycle - inc
II - Guardian of the Altar - 60%
III - Revel in Destruction - inc
IV - Stuff of Nightmares - 31.6s
V - Master of Madness - 37.94s
VI - Mired in Despair - 27.09s
VII - Devourer of Worlds - 27.96s
VIII - Putrid Malice - 37.45s
IX - The Final Jest - 70%
X - Spinner of False Hopes - 50%
XI - Hatred Incarnate - 29.47s
XII - Darkest Precepts - inc
XIII - Evil on High - inc
XIV - Terror of the Heavens - 60%
XV - One-Eyed Tyrant - inc
T - Tyranny of the Impure - 48.38s
0 - Crimson Scourge - inc

The IV clear I just got today, I think I can get that under 30 with one more attempt. 14 and Tactics I have new tools for so I'll work on those next. After that it's going to be tough, but maybe I can work on V some more since I'm surprised my time there is so bad with Bartz AASB. Planning to grab XII on the full throttle so maybe I'll be able to make a dent there too (at least hitting 50%)
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Kaxon
07/18/19 3:50:32 AM
#328:


Alright, made some good progress:

IV - 28.24
Tactics - 29.61
XIV - 37.48

IV was definitely the easiest, because I have two awakenings and I've been working on it for a while already. I just needed a good clean run to get my time under 30, got it on my first try. With the sequencing I was using Rydia doesn't get to user her AOSB (it would be the next action after the 30 second mark) but it didn't matter. Tellah's SSB was the missing piece here in my previous attempts - team Atk/mag boost and team IC1 was exactly what I needed to make the Kain/Rydia combo work.

Tactics is a much easier fight but it took some work to perfect my sequencing. The winning attempt involved Ramza using his old USB (party buff + IC1) with his initial instant action, getting the chain and Marche's USB up instantly, so we can start dealing damage as fast as possible.

XIV was the hardest of them all because of the tools I have and the limited time you have to finish phase 5. I don't think I can get this time down much with the current team.
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eaedwards6400
07/18/19 7:40:29 AM
#329:


Are you doing 2s or 3s?
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mccheyne
07/18/19 10:22:56 AM
#330:


5* off the daily. Rydia Ice Whip unique.

I mean, it's ice boosting, and only one of two ice boosting magic weapons that she can use. Unsure if I should rainbow it or not.
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
07/18/19 10:47:22 AM
#331:


It's probably better to just make the ice boosting mage dagger/rod than use such an old weapon with such low stats. Rydia probably won't be in your Typhon team anyway unless you have her Awakening. Maybe if you're using OK, Qusitis or Seven for Typhon it might be worth keeping.

I also got a rainbow in the daily today, Raines unique, I guess it's nice he has a pocket hastaga. I was pretty scared when I saw it though because I was worried I was gonna dupe the Rinoa dualcast LMR I just got off the dream select.
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mccheyne
07/18/19 11:02:58 AM
#332:


SSJSephirothGokuX123 posted...
It's probably better to just make the ice boosting mage dagger/rod than use such an old weapon with such low stats. Rydia probably won't be in your Typhon team anyway unless you have her Awakening. Maybe if you're using OK, Qusitis or Seven for Typhon it might be worth keeping.

Tooootally forgot about artifacts, thanks!
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Kaxon
07/18/19 12:58:06 PM
#333:


eaedwards6400 posted...
Are you doing 2s or 3s?


I'm doing d???, is that what you mean?
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eaedwards6400
07/18/19 1:35:11 PM
#334:


Kaxon posted...
eaedwards6400 posted...
Are you doing 2s or 3s?


I'm doing d???, is that what you mean?


Yeah, sorry, internally I call it torment level 1, 2, and 3.
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RPGlord95
07/18/19 1:53:15 PM
#335:


I should be able to beat D??? but can't
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Kaxon
07/18/19 2:13:19 PM
#336:


Which one are you trying to do? What's your team?
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Whiskey_Nick
07/18/19 3:00:59 PM
#337:


Oh i just meant in general
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Ultimaphazon
07/18/19 4:14:46 PM
#338:


Got my second Odin kill: wind weak

Aerith, Bartz, Zidane, Tyro and Zack

Not sure where I want to go next. Maybe Lightning weak, with Bartz AASB, Kain AASB and a complete Prompto. I'll wait for the 6* Imperil Lightning ability, though.
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mccheyne
07/18/19 5:22:20 PM
#339:


Selected Tyro USB4 from the fun in the sun thing. Can't do dream select until I get my new credit card, so this was the safe choice. Thinking potentially Aeris USB2 for the select, mainly for Jenova, and to help physical teams (though I also have Elarra, and hers has been great).

Gonna kill Deathgaze one more time tonight to give me a 4th (so I can have a lvl 99), then will likely give Heca a shot. Unsure who I should bring though. Zack is in due to chain, but I have Bartz AASB, Zidane AASB/USB, and Cloud USB1/USB2/AOSB. Elarra likely for healing, but I don't know if I can fit all 3 of those DPS in, as I'll likely need a spot for an entrust bot or something in there.
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
07/18/19 7:25:17 PM
#340:


Cloud USB1/AOSB with a chain is enough to wreck Hecat, adding two Awakenings is overkill. You don't need an entrustbot for him either because he constantly attacks with weak rapid attacks giving your team plenty of meter. If your DPS is good enough to kill him in the third phase before he goes too crazy he's the easiest 5*, but that third phase is one of the hardest if you're not quick enough since he can wipe your party out before your healer's ATB bar can refill.

I made my picks on the other Selects, Quistis USB and OK AOSB, I know it's a risky move since neither of these characters have enelements but they should get me some torment wins. I also figured that a 6* magic boosting hat is also always going to be useful (even though the element boost is water.)

At least Dena hopefully won't let OK get completely shafted in 6* Magicite given how popular he is, I could see him getting a second awakening that gives him infusion based on the ability he used like Seifer. Can't say the same for Quistis though since she seems to be the ignored one of the core 6 of FF8.
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
07/19/19 9:55:50 PM
#341:


Now that Full dailies and double greens are almost over I decided to rematch Dark Odin with an ice team... and I did it!

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Booyah! That Rinoa dualcast LMR actually sealed the deal right when the chain about to end! Happy to have my Black Armored Echos for future torments!
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Kaxon
07/20/19 4:06:14 AM
#342:


Congrats. I started working on wind today but I haven't gotten it yet. Not sure if I'm going to be able to do it.

I could really use a healing boon to inherit but Lakshmi is the most painful magicite for me to farm out of all of them right now. I need a darkness awakening, but I don't think there are any decent banners with one for quite a while.
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
07/20/19 10:07:09 AM
#343:


Emperor Awakening should be coming up soon, he can actually be physical like how Seph/Riku can go mage and he can equip swords, he triples as an Earth and Wind mage too.
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Kaxon
07/20/19 1:32:24 PM
#344:


True... that banner only has two awakenings on it though so overall power level seems kinda low. I'll probably just target Garland or Orlandu in the next fest. (Garland's awakening really should have been in the I event coming up real soon - that banner with just 1 awakening is basically garbage.)
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
07/20/19 1:56:18 PM
#345:


Despite only two awakenings it's still a really good banner, and is fantastic for the torment. Emperor is one of the best mages to invest in now and two earth mage awakenings will prepare you for Ramuh. (He also has Wind infusion with his BSB but most people won't go mage for Titan or Wind Weak Odin with Cloud, Zidane and Bartz being so popular.)

Emperor is also a popular pick for Awakening selects.
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mccheyne
07/22/19 2:13:47 AM
#346:


Looks like the elemental banners have been translated.

I'll likely skip the dark banner (both gen 2 chains + Seph AASB/USB2), unsure about a couple others. Definitely drawing on the Earth and Ice banners.
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Xuxon
07/22/19 2:46:03 AM
#347:


5 holy AASBs + 3 chains yes please

also doing wind because i need one of Cloud's glints, and there's 4 AASBs there that i don't have, plus 2 wind magic chains. hell i don't even have a single magic wind USB.

unsure beyond that. i probably won't be able to resist doing ice/water/dark, with me lacking phys gen 2 chains and there being 5 total between those 3 elements, plus Seph/Tidus AASBs that don't return for at least 6 months and Celes/Orlandu/Rydia AASBs as well (assuming i don't get them in holy). lightning is a thought as well, since i don't have a gen 2 chain at all, though i already have Ashe's AASB, Kain's is bad and there's only 2 others. maybe if they wait long enough for Queen and Desch to get in.
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Ultimaphazon
07/22/19 3:31:45 AM
#348:


They'll probably drop after maintenance.

Will certainly pull: (missing chains)
Earth
Ice

Will probably pull: (have decent tech, but could use a little extra push for Odin or torments)
Lightning
Water
Holy
Dark

Will probably skip:
Wind (Odin is done, but the pool should have some great toys that I'd like to have)

Will certainly skip:
Fire (Odin is done, and I can't think of many relics here that would help me at all)
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
07/22/19 11:01:06 AM
#349:


I feel like I should probably skip these elemental banners, I've had such bad luck with the realm refresh and RoP that I've become wary of banners with huge pools, especially with the higher 1/11 nerf now.

Also these probably aren't as good as you guys are expecting, in Japan these came out shortly after the realm refresh so don't expect awakenings that came out recently unless Dena Global updates the pool. It's probably just gonna be the 4A ones, Sephiroth and maybe Rem
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Kaxon
07/22/19 2:29:50 PM
#350:


If we get the same pool as Japan then I'm not really sure these are worth pulling on. The pools are big and there aren't many top prizes. For instance looking at the water banner the top prizes for me are Tidus AASB, Rikku CSB, or Strago CSB. (I already have Bartz AASB). That's 3/66. A good regular banner has 4/14 top prizes... so it costs 3.33x as much but gives you 6.28x the chance of drawing something good. I really hope they update these for global to make them worth drawing on.
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