Poll of the Day > 20 y/o Kid involved in SWATTING that got a MAN KILLED will have CHARGES DROPPED

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Full Throttle
06/01/19 9:15:49 PM
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Do you think Shane is more "innocent" than the swatter himself? - Results (7 votes)
Yes. he may have given a false address but he wasn't the one who made the call. I agree to cut him slack
28.57% (2 votes)
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F*** No. All 3 of them are guilty of this swat s*** and he should have faced prison time too
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20 y/o Jerk, Shane Gaskill from Wichita, the Kansas gamer whose dispute over a $1.50 bet that sparked a hoax call and resulted a father being killed has struck a deal with prosecutors that will allow them to DROP the charges against him!!

Judge Eric Melgren approved the joint motion for deferred prosecution and such agreements typically result in charges dropped if he fulfills his conditions

The deferred court proceedings and discovery during a period ending on Dec 31, 2020 and ordered him to pay $1000 in restitution, costs, penalities as required.

He was part of a hoax scheme when he made a bet with another jerk gamer, 19 y/o Casey Viner over XBOX. When Shane refused to pay him the bet, Casey then asked for his address and Shane instead gave a fake address he used to live at which then made Casey hire a swat caller to swat that house leaving 26 y/ Andrew Finch killed when he was shot immediately after opening the door!!

The case drew national attention on the practice of "swatting", a form of retaliation when someone reports a false emergency.

Jim Cross, spokesman for the attorney's office said Shane's involvement was LESS than the others

Shane was charged with conspiracy, obstruction of justice, wire fraud and making false statements.

Casey who lives in Ohio has pleaded guilty to all those charges but he is only recommended 2 years PROBATION. Casey was the one who hired Tyler R. Bariss for the Swat where he was sentenced to 20 years in the slammer.

Do you think Shane is more "innocent" than the Swatter himself?

Shane - Walking Free WITHOUT charges

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mooreandrew58
06/01/19 9:26:51 PM
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Yeah id say hes more innocent. Personally id refuse to give an address period but he couldn't help/predict the guy would do that
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Mister_Sister
06/01/19 9:35:24 PM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
Yeah id say hes more innocent. Personally id refuse to give an address period but he couldn't help/predict the guy would do that

Imagine your address being given
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mooreandrew58
06/01/19 9:50:40 PM
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Mister_Sister posted...
mooreandrew58 posted...
Yeah id say hes more innocent. Personally id refuse to give an address period but he couldn't help/predict the guy would do that

Imagine your address being given


I didnt saybthe guy was 100 percent innocent. But say this happened to me and i lived. Id blame the guy who made the call much more than the guy who gave the address
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Broken_Zeus
06/01/19 11:33:54 PM
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He basically paid a hitman. The person who contracts the hit isn't more innocent than the hitman, especially because *nothing* would have happened had he not put a hit on the guy. The fact that he's not getting prison time shows that our laws haven't caught up to this kind of crime.

Granted, if he was in prison while waiting for trial, that might have been enough but he looks like the kind of little bitch who mommy and daddy would bail out instead of letting him take accountability for this wrongdoing.
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VeeVees
06/01/19 11:36:35 PM
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all of them should get the death penalty
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Nade Duck
06/01/19 11:47:23 PM
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inclined to agree with zeus tbh

feels dirty tho
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mooreandrew58
06/01/19 11:48:23 PM
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Broken_Zeus posted...
He basically paid a hitman. The person who contracts the hit isn't more innocent than the hitman, especially because *nothing* would have happened had he not put a hit on the guy. The fact that he's not getting prison time shows that our laws haven't caught up to this kind of crime.

Granted, if he was in prison while waiting for trial, that might have been enough but he looks like the kind of little bitch who mommy and daddy would bail out instead of letting him take accountability for this wrongdoing.


I must have misread. Ler me re read it. Thought the dude was trying to swat the guy who gave him the fake address

Edit. Re read it. Not seeing how it can be compared to him contracting a hit out at all. Did he know the guy was going to re act this way?
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streamofthesky
06/02/19 1:13:41 AM
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He was the least guilty of the four criminals involved (him, the guy who called the swatter, the swatter, and the cop that murdered Andrew Finch) so he should have the smallest sentence of all of them. But he still should've gotten a year or two in jail.
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zebatov
06/02/19 1:19:55 AM
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So Shane only gave a fake address?

Yeah I don't think he's guilty of anything. He may feel guilt, but by law he didn't do anything wrong.

Similar to what someone else said, I would have told the kid to fuck off and not given any address.
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Zikten
06/02/19 1:28:06 AM
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He knew what would happen when he gave the address. He is guilty as fuck and has blood on his hands
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mooreandrew58
06/02/19 2:05:46 AM
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Zikten posted...
He knew what would happen when he gave the address. He is guilty as fuck and has blood on his hands


Any proof he knew? Is this like a everyday occurence when someone pisses off another threw the internet?
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crazyisgood
06/02/19 3:21:41 AM
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He is a little guilty
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mooreandrew58
06/02/19 3:25:21 AM
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crazyisgood posted...
He is a little guilty


Yeah I was never saying he should get off with nothing. Just hes not the same level of guilty as the other dude or hell even the cop/swat guy who shot the victim.
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SkynyrdRocker
06/02/19 10:14:46 AM
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Whenever I give a fake address I use the address from Finding Nemo. That way nobody can get hurt.
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Gradieus
06/02/19 10:56:37 AM
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He should be fined for not paying the $1.50.
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Shadowbird_RH
06/02/19 11:09:58 AM
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Guilty, but not as guilty as (1) the guy who called in the swat, (2) the people who actually carried out the murder, or (3) the dead guy whose compliance was apparently unsatisfactory. Tragedy could have been averted at any of those levels. All this guy did was save his own life by throwing a stranger under the bus.
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JTekashiro
06/02/19 11:35:20 AM
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The cop will never face jail time so "justice" is already off the table.
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streamofthesky
06/02/19 11:40:37 AM
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Shadowbird_RH posted...
Guilty, but not as guilty as (1) the guy who called in the swat, (2) the people who actually carried out the murder, or (3) the dead guy whose compliance was apparently unsatisfactory. Tragedy could have been averted at any of those levels. All this guy did was save his own life by throwing a stranger under the bus.


NO.
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Zikten
06/02/19 1:32:14 PM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
Zikten posted...
He knew what would happen when he gave the address. He is guilty as fuck and has blood on his hands


Any proof he knew? Is this like a everyday occurence when someone pisses off another threw the internet?

Everyone knows about swatting. He might not have known 100% what would happen but he had some idea that a swat would probably take place. People didn't realize until this case how serious swatting is.
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FrndNhbrHdCEman
06/02/19 2:54:43 PM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
Broken_Zeus posted...
He basically paid a hitman. The person who contracts the hit isn't more innocent than the hitman, especially because *nothing* would have happened had he not put a hit on the guy. The fact that he's not getting prison time shows that our laws haven't caught up to this kind of crime.

Granted, if he was in prison while waiting for trial, that might have been enough but he looks like the kind of little bitch who mommy and daddy would bail out instead of letting him take accountability for this wrongdoing.


I must have misread. Ler me re read it. Thought the dude was trying to swat the guy who gave him the fake address

Edit. Re read it. Not seeing how it can be compared to him contracting a hit out at all. Did he know the guy was going to re act this way?

Zeus prolly didn't have his bifocals on an misread the story.
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streamofthesky
06/02/19 3:04:19 PM
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Ok, for clarity...first of all the dude in this story, Shane, is not the one who contacted the hitman/swatter. Casey did that.

Shane was arguing w/ Casey online and Casey got angry and said he'd swat Shane. Shane gave him a fake address (which turned out to be a former one he lived at, so he knew it was a real home address and someone probably lived there) and dared him to do it.

Casey called the swatter and gave him the address, and the latter then swatted Andrew Finch and got him killed.

Since he knew it was an actual address and anyone w/ at least a half functioning brain knows that sending in the emergency response police unit on someone can lead to tragedy...I agree Shane is not innocent and deserved a year in prison.

But no one put a gun to Casey's head and made him contact the swatter. So he is the worse person by far, IMO. He's the one who basically called a hitman.

And of course the swatter and murdering cop are worse than both of them.

All 4 should've gone to prison.
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mooreandrew58
06/02/19 4:04:12 PM
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Zikten posted...
mooreandrew58 posted...
Zikten posted...
He knew what would happen when he gave the address. He is guilty as fuck and has blood on his hands


Any proof he knew? Is this like a everyday occurence when someone pisses off another threw the internet?

Everyone knows about swatting. He might not have known 100% what would happen but he had some idea that a swat would probably take place. People didn't realize until this case how serious swatting is.


Umm no. I actually asked a few people about it yesterday day. They had no clue it was a thing. And while I did I wouldnt think it so commonplace that I had to be afraid of it when dealing with everyone I talk to online
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Zikten
06/02/19 4:07:06 PM
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Well it's gotten very bad. This was inevitable. I knew someone was eventually going to get killed.
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JebronLames
06/02/19 4:07:59 PM
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streamofthesky posted...
Ok, for clarity...first of all the dude in this story, Shane, is not the one who contacted the hitman/swatter. Casey did that.

Shane was arguing w/ Casey online and Casey got angry and said he'd swat Shane. Shane gave him a fake address (which turned out to be a former one he lived at, so he knew it was a real home address and someone probably lived there) and dared him to do it.

Casey called the swatter and gave him the address, and the latter then swatted Andrew Finch and got him killed.

Since he knew it was an actual address and anyone w/ at least a half functioning brain knows that sending in the emergency response police unit on someone can lead to tragedy...I agree Shane is not innocent and deserved a year in prison.

But no one put a gun to Casey's head and made him contact the swatter. So he is the worse person by far, IMO. He's the one who basically called a hitman.

And of course the swatter and murdering cop are worse than both of them.

All 4 should've gone to prison.

yeah i agree, the swatter gets 20 and this guy gets nothing, somethings not right
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Caroniver
06/02/19 4:10:37 PM
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Just gonna say: Language like "kid" makes the person seem more innocent. It's a psychological thing. "He's just a kid" is a common sentiment. Avoid it.
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SunWuKung420
06/02/19 4:18:44 PM
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Every dumbass involved, from the fake address giver to the cop that shot an innocent man, should be held culpable.
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Zikten
06/02/19 4:37:51 PM
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Well the cop will never be punished that is for sure.
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mooreandrew58
06/02/19 5:03:11 PM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
Every dumbass involved, from the fake address giver to the cop that shot an innocent man, should be held culpable.


I think just to differing degrees. Intent means a lot to me. One person definitely had intent one other im sure didnt. So I think it should be murder charges for one and manslaughter for the other. The cop I cant speak on what their level of intent was but still to my understanding they broke some protocols/laws doing what they did.
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Zikten
06/02/19 5:06:25 PM
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the thing with the cop is that they were just stupid. had the situation that they believed in, was actually happening....then there is a high chance the person that opened the door was a hostage forced to go out

so it makes no sense to fucking murder that person. they just decided they were going to kill whoever opened the door. that is bad cop work. the guy didn't even ever know what was happening. pretty sure he died in a state of confusion and never knew why he was killed. which is very sad to me. he never had a chance. the cops saying he didn't comply is bullshit. way I heard it, he opened the door, and then like 10 cops were screaming different commands at him at the same time and before he even had time to process what was happening or even realize these were cops, or what they wanted him to do....they shot him
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wwinterj25
06/02/19 5:11:02 PM
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Full Throttle posted...
Do you think Shane is more "innocent" than the swatter himself?

Yes as he only gave a fake address. Although he shouldn't have actually used someones address he didn't call the swat team.
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FrndNhbrHdCEman
06/02/19 7:05:14 PM
#32:


Zikten posted...
the thing with the cop is that they were just stupid. had the situation that they believed in, was actually happening....then there is a high chance the person that opened the door was a hostage forced to go out

so it makes no sense to fucking murder that person. they just decided they were going to kill whoever opened the door. that is bad cop work. the guy didn't even ever know what was happening. pretty sure he died in a state of confusion and never knew why he was killed. which is very sad to me. he never had a chance. the cops saying he didn't comply is bullshit. way I heard it, he opened the door, and then like 10 cops were screaming different commands at him at the same time and before he even had time to process what was happening or even realize these were cops, or what they wanted him to do....they shot him

I actually agree with you.
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Lil_Bit83
06/07/19 11:41:58 AM
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No he's not innocent. Its not a fake address if its real and you used to live there. You hafta figure that someone likely bought that house. Was it so hard to not give a damn address?
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Lil_Bit83
06/07/19 11:45:08 AM
#35:


Zikten posted...
mooreandrew58 posted...
Zikten posted...
He knew what would happen when he gave the address. He is guilty as fuck and has blood on his hands


Any proof he knew? Is this like a everyday occurence when someone pisses off another threw the internet?

Everyone knows about swatting. He might not have known 100% what would happen but he had some idea that a swat would probably take place. People didn't realize until this case how serious swatting is.


Not everybody. There's lots of folks who don't engage in this type of bullshit who probably never heard of it.
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EvilMegas
06/07/19 11:47:32 AM
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FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...
Zikten posted...
the thing with the cop is that they were just stupid. had the situation that they believed in, was actually happening....then there is a high chance the person that opened the door was a hostage forced to go out

so it makes no sense to fucking murder that person. they just decided they were going to kill whoever opened the door. that is bad cop work. the guy didn't even ever know what was happening. pretty sure he died in a state of confusion and never knew why he was killed. which is very sad to me. he never had a chance. the cops saying he didn't comply is bullshit. way I heard it, he opened the door, and then like 10 cops were screaming different commands at him at the same time and before he even had time to process what was happening or even realize these were cops, or what they wanted him to do....they shot him

I actually agree with you.

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Lil_Bit83
06/07/19 11:47:57 AM
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Zikten posted...
the thing with the cop is that they were just stupid. had the situation that they believed in, was actually happening....then there is a high chance the person that opened the door was a hostage forced to go out

so it makes no sense to fucking murder that person. they just decided they were going to kill whoever opened the door. that is bad cop work. the guy didn't even ever know what was happening. pretty sure he died in a state of confusion and never knew why he was killed. which is very sad to me. he never had a chance. the cops saying he didn't comply is bullshit. way I heard it, he opened the door, and then like 10 cops were screaming different commands at him at the same time and before he even had time to process what was happening or even realize these were cops, or what they wanted him to do....they shot him


Agreed and it is sad. When your shocked, scared and don't understand wth is going on, your brain may not work right. Not all of us are quick thinkers, or good at being calm and rational in a bad situatuon.
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SinisterSlay
06/07/19 8:10:38 PM
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I'm going to have to say he is incredibly stupid, maybe criminally stupid, but still innocent. Usually when I give a fake address, I pick something more interesting like 2 Pleasure Street, Resolute, NU https://goo.gl/maps/3jZ7RQkXtH47AorJ6 Which is a legit, but funny sounding address that I look forward to someone trying to figure out how to swat them.
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Broken_Zeus
06/08/19 12:55:31 AM
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Nade Duck posted...
inclined to agree with zeus tbh

feels dirty tho


You agree with me all the time. Roll around and enjoy the grime!

mooreandrew58 posted...
Broken_Zeus posted...
He basically paid a hitman. The person who contracts the hit isn't more innocent than the hitman, especially because *nothing* would have happened had he not put a hit on the guy. The fact that he's not getting prison time shows that our laws haven't caught up to this kind of crime.

Granted, if he was in prison while waiting for trial, that might have been enough but he looks like the kind of little bitch who mommy and daddy would bail out instead of letting him take accountability for this wrongdoing.


I must have misread. Ler me re read it. Thought the dude was trying to swat the guy who gave him the fake address

Edit. Re read it. Not seeing how it can be compared to him contracting a hit out at all. Did he know the guy was going to re act this way?


Oh, correction, this was the asshole who gave the fake address. So yeah, it's a bit less like my example, but he's still absolutely complicit in the death because he *knew* that the address was going to be used for a swatting or other malfeasance. If somebody walked up to you on the street and said, "I want to beat up mooreandrew58. Where tha fuck do he live?!" and you gave them somebody else's address, you'd be completely responsible for directing the violence towards that other party.

streamofthesky posted...
He was the least guilty of the four criminals involved (him, the guy who called the swatter, the swatter, and the cop that murdered Andrew Finch) so he should have the smallest sentence of all of them. But he still should've gotten a year or two in jail.


He was more culpable than the cop. All three participated in putting the victim into a violent situation by having dispatch (who deserves to be charged more than the cop does) order the cop into a situation that resulted in somebody's death.

zebatov posted...
So Shane only gave a fake address?

Yeah I don't think he's guilty of anything. He may feel guilt, but by law he didn't do anything wrong.

Similar to what someone else said, I would have told the kid to fuck off and not given any address.


He's certainly guilty and if he wasn't put to prison for a crime only goes to show that our legal system hasn't caught up to modern criminal behavior. I hope that he gets sued into debt over this by the victim's family.

JTekashiro posted...
The cop will never face jail time so "justice" is already off the table.


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