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ShatteredElysium 05/26/19 11:08:52 PM #1:	Was driving to the cinema with my girlfriend we saw the asshole in front of us hit an animal and not even stop. Driving a really expensive car too. We immediately u-turned to check and managed to get back before anybody else hit it again. Turned out to be a cat that is very likely a stray. He was still alive when we got there so we took him to the emergency clinic. Hard to evaluate how injured he was. No broken limbs but was bleeding from the mouth and had a hard time breathing. He was calm on my lap all the way there and then had enough fight to be feisty and hiss/try claw and escape when we got to the clinic so hopefully his injuries aren't too severe. Had to surrender him to the vet clinic and legally they aren't allowed to give any updates after surrender :( I offered to pay all assessment fees just to find out and then surrender and let them treat but unfortunately not an option. I really hope hes going to be treatable and ok. Him still having fight when I tried moving him off my lap gave me hope and the vet promised to treat him if possible rather than euthanize. They said they were doing xrays as i left and they weren't even supposed to tell me that much. But it infuriates me that people will A. Hit animals and B. Not even stop when they do. The car didn't even attempt to brake or anything and it was after a light so he could have easily avoided it with a little effort in my opinion. <cite>ShatteredElysium posted [p:922414469] in People are... [t:77742485]...</cite> <quote>Was driving to the cinema with my girlfriend we saw the asshole in front of us hit an animal and not even stop. Driving a really expensive car too. We immediately u-turned to check and managed to get back before anybody else hit it again. Turned out to be a cat that is very likely a stray. He was still alive when we got there so we took him to the emergency clinic. Hard to evaluate how injured he was. No broken limbs but was bleeding from the mouth and had a hard time breathing. He was calm on my lap all the way there and then had enough fight to be feisty and hiss/try claw and escape when we got to the clinic so hopefully his injuries aren't too severe. Had to surrender him to the vet clinic and legally they aren't allowed to give any updates after surrender :( I offered to pay all assessment fees just to find out and then surrender and let them treat but unfortunately not an option. I really hope hes going to be treatable and ok. Him still having fight when I tried moving him off my lap gave me hope and the vet promised to treat him if possible rather than euthanize. They said they were doing xrays as i left and they weren't even supposed to tell me that much. But it infuriates me that people will A. Hit animals and B. Not even stop when they do. The car didn't even attempt to brake or anything and it was after a light so he could have easily avoided it with a little effort in my opinion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TomNook 05/26/19 11:16:37 PM #2:	ShatteredElysium posted... A. Hit animals Can't always control that B. Not even stop when they do Might not have even known they did. They also might not have been interested in pressing charges against the owner for damages to their vehicle if there even was any. --- Bells, bells, bells! <cite>TomNook posted [p:922414735] in People are... [t:77742485]...</cite> <quote><cite>ShatteredElysium posted...</cite> <quote>A. Hit animals</quote> Can't always control that <quote>B. Not even stop when they do</quote> Might not have even known they did. They also might not have been interested in pressing charges against the owner for damages to their vehicle if there even was any.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Menji 05/26/19 11:18:58 PM #3:	What are you supposed to do if you hit an animal though? Seems excessive for 911. --- Menji+ https://imgur.com/F5UEyUw \| https://imgur.com/pPZsSZU Congrats to Advokaiser! [ https://myanimelist.net/profile/Menjii ] <cite>Menji posted [p:922414824] in People are... [t:77742485]...</cite> <quote>What are you supposed to do if you hit an animal though? Seems excessive for 911.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nanis23 05/26/19 11:33:24 PM #4:	I wouldn't stop either The chances of causing a worse accident by stopping suddenly is not worth it --- wololo <cite>Nanis23 posted [p:922415364] in People are... [t:77742485]...</cite> <quote>I wouldn't stop either The chances of causing a worse accident by stopping suddenly is not worth it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjbasis 05/26/19 11:40:47 PM #5:	I don't know how far I'd go to try to treat an animal I hit, but I definitely brake if I see an animal on the road --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png <cite>pjbasis posted [p:922415630] in People are... [t:77742485]...</cite> <quote>I don't know how far I'd go to try to treat an animal I hit, but I definitely brake if I see an animal on the road</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
trdl23 05/26/19 11:47:56 PM #6:	I was taught in Driver's Ed that if anyone is remotely close to you and an animal gets into the road, be it a squirrel or a cat, you do not brake and risk getting rear-ended. You also do not swerve. You just keep going without accelerating and maybe adjust a little bit to try not to hit it. --- E come vivo? Vivo! <cite>trdl23 posted [p:922415854] in People are... [t:77742485]...</cite> <quote>I was taught in Driver's Ed that if anyone is remotely close to you and an animal gets into the road, be it a squirrel or a cat, you do not brake and risk getting rear-ended. You also do not swerve. You just keep going without accelerating and maybe adjust a little bit to try not to hit it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CaptainOfCrush 05/27/19 12:35:26 AM #7:	While my brother was driving home for Thanksgiving a few years ago, some guy veered into his line like a foot in front of him while they were both on the freeway. My brother spun out and nearly died while the guy drove on his merry way. I think like 90% of people who'd make a mistake like that wouldn't stop, so yes we are pretty garbage. --- Yoblazer https://imgur.com/gByqgPg <cite>CaptainOfCrush posted [p:922417255] in People are... [t:77742485]...</cite> <quote>While my brother was driving home for Thanksgiving a few years ago, some guy veered into his line like a foot in front of him while they were both on the freeway. My brother spun out and nearly died while the guy drove on his merry way. I think like 90% of people who'd make a mistake like that wouldn't stop, so yes we are pretty garbage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShatteredElysium 05/27/19 1:04:03 AM #8:	TomNook posted... ShatteredElysium posted... A. Hit animals Can't always control that B. Not even stop when they do Might not have even known they did. They also might not have been interested in pressing charges against the owner for damages to their vehicle if there even was any. I mean if you're doing like 50+ and it jumps out then I understand but most of the time it happens at low speeds where I live. This happened at a light and he hit the cat before he even crossed the intersection so he was still accelerating and absolutely could have avoided it. They absolutely had to know they did it. And bullshit, it's so heartless to just carry on. That could have been someone's pet. Menji posted... What are you supposed to do if you hit an animal though? Seems excessive for 911. You do what I did for him. You pull over to check on it and take it to the vet. I mean I had plans with my girlfriend, we were both all dressed up and it took time out of our schedule to do it. Plus my clothes got covered in blood but I wouldn't think twice about doing it. Like I get that people just drive on and don't think about it but it's just frustrating to think people would do that and leave a defenseless animal to an awful death. Most of the time it isn't going to be able to get out of the way and it's going to get hit again and die a horrible death. I don't think people are aware that you can take it to the vet and surrender the animal and they will treat it for free if possible. So the only extra effort you have to make is to take it to the vet which I guess depends on where you live as to how available one is <cite>ShatteredElysium posted [p:922418039] in People are... [t:77742485]...</cite> <quote><cite>TomNook posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ShatteredElysium posted...</cite> <quote>A. Hit animals</quote> Can't always control that <quote>B. Not even stop when they do</quote> Might not have even known they did. They also might not have been interested in pressing charges against the owner for damages to their vehicle if there even was any.</quote> I mean if you're doing like 50+ and it jumps out then I understand but most of the time it happens at low speeds where I live. This happened at a light and he hit the cat before he even crossed the intersection so he was still accelerating and absolutely could have avoided it. They absolutely had to know they did it. And bullshit, it's so heartless to just carry on. That could have been someone's pet. <cite>Menji posted...</cite> <quote>What are you supposed to do if you hit an animal though? Seems excessive for 911.</quote> You do what I did for him. You pull over to check on it and take it to the vet. I mean I had plans with my girlfriend, we were both all dressed up and it took time out of our schedule to do it. Plus my clothes got covered in blood but I wouldn't think twice about doing it. Like I get that people just drive on and don't think about it but it's just frustrating to think people would do that and leave a defenseless animal to an awful death. Most of the time it isn't going to be able to get out of the way and it's going to get hit again and die a horrible death. I don't think people are aware that you can take it to the vet and surrender the animal and they will treat it for free if possible. So the only extra effort you have to make is to take it to the vet which I guess depends on where you live as to how available one is</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShatteredElysium 05/27/19 1:09:35 AM #9:	Also for those who just drive on Pet Hit and Run Laws Its illegal to flee the scene if you hit a pet while youre operating a vehicle. If you hit a pet, you must stop your car and remain at the scene. You must either make contact with the pets owner and exchange information or call the police. Its a misdemeanor to commit a hit and run involving a dog or other pet. Only a misdemeanor but still illegal. The least you could do is take the pet to a vet to see if it is chipped. This is also part of the reason all my cats are indoor cats. <cite>ShatteredElysium posted [p:922418184] in People are... [t:77742485]...</cite> <quote>Also for those who just drive on <quote>Pet Hit and Run Laws Its illegal to flee the scene if you hit a pet while youre operating a vehicle. If you hit a pet, you must stop your car and remain at the scene. You must either make contact with the pets owner and exchange information or call the police. Its a misdemeanor to commit a hit and run involving a dog or other pet.</quote> Only a misdemeanor but still illegal. The least you could do is take the pet to a vet to see if it is chipped. This is also part of the reason all my cats are indoor cats.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jcgamer107 05/27/19 1:19:08 AM #10:	Wow you really went above and beyond. That is admirable. If the person really did know they hit it, or saw it beforehand, that's really bad, especially since they were at a stop. Hope it survives, you did all you could. I've hit 2 animals without stopping, but I'm almost positive both were killed instantly, and they were definitely not pets. One of the times it was a busy road at high speeds so there was no sense in stopping - a smallish deer basically suicided in front of my large van. There was foliage right near the road and he suddenly shot out of it out of nowhere, I had no time to react. Also fuck deer anyway, they cause serious damage and can get people killed. The other time was a possum that I didn't see in time, at night, and ran over. I felt bad about it but I kept going because it wasn't gonna survive my tires going over it. --- Official Advokaiser advocate <cite>jcgamer107 posted [p:922418423] in People are... [t:77742485]...</cite> <quote>Wow you really went above and beyond. That is admirable. If the person really did know they hit it, or saw it beforehand, that's really bad, especially since they were at a stop. Hope it survives, you did all you could. I've hit 2 animals without stopping, but I'm almost positive both were killed instantly, and they were definitely not pets. One of the times it was a busy road at high speeds so there was no sense in stopping - a smallish deer basically suicided in front of my large van. There was foliage right near the road and he suddenly shot out of it out of nowhere, I had no time to react. Also fuck deer anyway, they cause serious damage and can get people killed. The other time was a possum that I didn't see in time, at night, and ran over. I felt bad about it but I kept going because it wasn't gonna survive my tires going over it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nanis23 05/27/19 3:57:35 AM #11:	ShatteredElysium posted... Also for those who just drive on Pet Hit and Run Laws Its illegal to flee the scene if you hit a pet while youre operating a vehicle. If you hit a pet, you must stop your car and remain at the scene. You must either make contact with the pets owner and exchange information or call the police. Its a misdemeanor to commit a hit and run involving a dog or other pet. Only a misdemeanor but still illegal. The least you could do is take the pet to a vet to see if it is chipped. This is also part of the reason all my cats are indoor cats. What if it's a street cat and not a pet --- wololo <cite>Nanis23 posted [p:922421501] in People are... [t:77742485]...</cite> <quote><cite>ShatteredElysium posted...</cite> <quote>Also for those who just drive on <quote>Pet Hit and Run Laws Its illegal to flee the scene if you hit a pet while youre operating a vehicle. If you hit a pet, you must stop your car and remain at the scene. You must either make contact with the pets owner and exchange information or call the police. Its a misdemeanor to commit a hit and run involving a dog or other pet.</quote> Only a misdemeanor but still illegal. The least you could do is take the pet to a vet to see if it is chipped. This is also part of the reason all my cats are indoor cats.</quote> What if it's a street cat and not a pet</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Menji 05/27/19 4:27:26 AM #12:	I looked up Oregon's law and you are required to stop and try to contact the owners or the police here too. I do see recommendations to call 911 which was surprising to me... but good to know if something horrible like that happens. --- Menji+ https://imgur.com/F5UEyUw \| https://imgur.com/pPZsSZU Congrats to Advokaiser! [ https://myanimelist.net/profile/Menjii ] <cite>Menji posted [p:922421937] in People are... [t:77742485]...</cite> <quote>I looked up Oregon's law and you are required to stop and try to contact the owners or the police here too. I do see recommendations to call 911 which was surprising to me... but good to know if something horrible like that happens.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShatteredElysium 05/27/19 7:03:44 AM #13:	Nanis23 posted... ShatteredElysium posted... Also for those who just drive on Pet Hit and Run Laws Its illegal to flee the scene if you hit a pet while youre operating a vehicle. If you hit a pet, you must stop your car and remain at the scene. You must either make contact with the pets owner and exchange information or call the police. Its a misdemeanor to commit a hit and run involving a dog or other pet. Only a misdemeanor but still illegal. The least you could do is take the pet to a vet to see if it is chipped. This is also part of the reason all my cats are indoor cats. What if it's a street cat and not a pet Not sure how you would make that determination without stopping first and even once you have stopped then you may as well take it to the vet either way and they would check for chip. <cite>ShatteredElysium posted [p:922423975] in People are... [t:77742485]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nanis23 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ShatteredElysium posted...</cite> <quote>Also for those who just drive on <quote>Pet Hit and Run Laws Its illegal to flee the scene if you hit a pet while youre operating a vehicle. If you hit a pet, you must stop your car and remain at the scene. You must either make contact with the pets owner and exchange information or call the police. Its a misdemeanor to commit a hit and run involving a dog or other pet.</quote> Only a misdemeanor but still illegal. The least you could do is take the pet to a vet to see if it is chipped. This is also part of the reason all my cats are indoor cats.</quote> What if it's a street cat and not a pet</quote> Not sure how you would make that determination without stopping first and even once you have stopped then you may as well take it to the vet either way and they would check for chip.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Psyonix 05/27/19 7:47:24 AM #14:	Nanis23 posted... I wouldn't stop either The chances of causing a worse accident by stopping suddenly is not worth it I mean no disrespect to the TC but legally speaking youre not supposed to stop, or even serve or slow down. That's how accidents happen. You're supposed to hold steady <cite>Psyonix posted [p:922424601] in People are... [t:77742485]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nanis23 posted...</cite> <quote>I wouldn't stop either The chances of causing a worse accident by stopping suddenly is not worth it</quote> I mean no disrespect to the TC but legally speaking youre not supposed to stop, or even serve or slow down. That's how accidents happen. You're supposed to hold steady</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wg64Z 05/27/19 7:53:56 AM #15:	Yeah, sounds like the guy actually did the correct thing. It sucks sure, but I wouldn't call them a bad person. Seems REALLY excessive to take them to an animal hospital though. Maybe you're just a big softy. --- Do you like humor, gameplay, and daily content? Check out my hilarious let's play Youtube Channel, Tarvould's Quest! https://www.youtube.com/TarvouldsQuest <cite>wg64Z posted [p:922424708] in People are... [t:77742485]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, sounds like the guy actually did the correct thing. It sucks sure, but I wouldn't call them a bad person. Seems REALLY excessive to take them to an animal hospital though. Maybe you're just a big softy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Psyonix 05/27/19 8:03:19 AM #16:	ShatteredElysium posted... Nanis23 posted... ShatteredElysium posted... Also for those who just drive on Pet Hit and Run Laws Its illegal to flee the scene if you hit a pet while youre operating a vehicle. If you hit a pet, you must stop your car and remain at the scene. You must either make contact with the pets owner and exchange information or call the police. Its a misdemeanor to commit a hit and run involving a dog or other pet. Only a misdemeanor but still illegal. The least you could do is take the pet to a vet to see if it is chipped. This is also part of the reason all my cats are indoor cats. What if it's a street cat and not a pet Not sure how you would make that determination without stopping first and even once you have stopped then you may as well take it to the vet either way and they would check for chip. This happened not all that long ago. I'm not from Quebec but I am canadian so it was all over the news for a bit MONTREAL -- A widow whose husband and daughter died when their motorcycle crashed into a woman's car as she helped ducks on a highway is satisfied with the 90-day jail term the accused received Thursday. Besides serving the time on weekends, Emma Czornobaj must do 240 hours of community service and is prohibited from driving for 10 years. After Czornobaj stopped her car in June 2010 to rescue ducklings on the side of the highway, the motorcycle carrying Andre Roy and his teenager daughter Jessie slammed into her vehicle. Old lady with good intentions stops on highway to not run over the ducks. Kills 2 humans. Not worth it, lots of people here were advocating manslaughter charges as it was worse than a reactionary swerve she downright stopped on one of our countries biggest multi lane highway. <cite>Psyonix posted [p:922424844] in People are... [t:77742485]...</cite> <quote><cite>ShatteredElysium posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nanis23 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ShatteredElysium posted...</cite> <quote>Also for those who just drive on <quote>Pet Hit and Run Laws Its illegal to flee the scene if you hit a pet while youre operating a vehicle. If you hit a pet, you must stop your car and remain at the scene. You must either make contact with the pets owner and exchange information or call the police. Its a misdemeanor to commit a hit and run involving a dog or other pet.</quote> Only a misdemeanor but still illegal. The least you could do is take the pet to a vet to see if it is chipped. This is also part of the reason all my cats are indoor cats.</quote> What if it's a street cat and not a pet</quote> Not sure how you would make that determination without stopping first and even once you have stopped then you may as well take it to the vet either way and they would check for chip.</quote> This happened not all that long ago. I'm not from Quebec but I am canadian so it was all over the news for a bit MONTREAL -- A widow whose husband and daughter died when their motorcycle crashed into a woman's car as she helped ducks on a highway is satisfied with the 90-day jail term the accused received Thursday. Besides serving the time on weekends, Emma Czornobaj must do 240 hours of community service and is prohibited from driving for 10 years. After Czornobaj stopped her car in June 2010 to rescue ducklings on the side of the highway, the motorcycle carrying Andre Roy and his teenager daughter Jessie slammed into her vehicle. Old lady with good intentions stops on highway to not run over the ducks. Kills 2 humans. Not worth it, lots of people here were advocating manslaughter charges as it was worse than a reactionary swerve she downright stopped on one of our countries biggest multi lane highway.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nanis23 05/27/19 9:06:24 AM #17:	Are we sure it's totally free to bring them to a vet? --- wololo <cite>Nanis23 posted [p:922425880] in People are... [t:77742485]...</cite> <quote>Are we sure it's totally free to bring them to a vet?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nrrr 05/27/19 9:20:14 AM #18:	Just think how many animals are killed by us for food, from climate change and ecosystem destruction related to our reliance on car travel. Humans are complete assholes. Irredeemable species. <cite>Nrrr posted [p:922426168] in People are... [t:77742485]...</cite> <quote>Just think how many animals are killed by us for food, from climate change and ecosystem destruction related to our reliance on car travel. Humans are complete assholes. Irredeemable species.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Psyonix 05/27/19 9:27:51 AM #19:	Nrrr posted... Just think how many animals are killed by us for food, from climate change and ecosystem destruction related to our reliance on car travel. Humans are complete assholes. Irredeemable species. Well I mean there's nothing to redeem. Are you angry with our ancestors from 100000 years ago who needed to hunt for survival? <cite>Psyonix posted [p:922426337] in People are... [t:77742485]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nrrr posted...</cite> <quote>Just think how many animals are killed by us for food, from climate change and ecosystem destruction related to our reliance on car travel. Humans are complete assholes. Irredeemable species.</quote> Well I mean there's nothing to redeem. Are you angry with our ancestors from 100000 years ago who needed to hunt for survival?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maniac64 05/27/19 10:27:32 AM #20:	Nanis23 posted... Are we sure it's totally free to bring them to a vet? Yes. As long as you surrender it and dont claim ownership there will be no charge. --- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris <cite>Maniac64 posted [p:922427896] in People are... [t:77742485]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nanis23 posted...</cite> <quote>Are we sure it's totally free to bring them to a vet?</quote> Yes. As long as you surrender it and dont claim ownership there will be no charge.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Psyonix 05/27/19 10:39:47 AM #21:	Maniac64 posted... Nanis23 posted... Are we sure it's totally free to bring them to a vet? Yes. As long as you surrender it and dont claim ownership there will be no charge. So what happens to it then afterwards <cite>Psyonix posted [p:922428265] in People are... [t:77742485]...</cite> <quote><cite>Maniac64 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nanis23 posted...</cite> <quote>Are we sure it's totally free to bring them to a vet?</quote> Yes. As long as you surrender it and dont claim ownership there will be no charge.</quote> So what happens to it then afterwards</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maniac64 05/27/19 10:45:08 AM #22:	They treat it and if they can help it great. Then it will go to an adoption place or rescue. If not then it gets put down. --- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris <cite>Maniac64 posted [p:922428445] in People are... [t:77742485]...</cite> <quote>They treat it and if they can help it great. Then it will go to an adoption place or rescue. If not then it gets put down.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Psyonix 05/27/19 11:17:36 AM #23:	Maniac64 posted... They treat it and if they can help it great. Then it will go to an adoption place or rescue. If not then it gets put down. Do vets somehow get reimbursed? Are they legally forced to give treatment out of pocket to any animals brought in unclaimed? I'm not here to argue morality but from a business standpoint indont see how you could be forced to treat them out of pocket knowing full well when they go to a rescue theres a good chance they'll be put down anyways <cite>Psyonix posted [p:922429444] in People are... [t:77742485]...</cite> <quote><cite>Maniac64 posted...</cite> <quote>They treat it and if they can help it great. Then it will go to an adoption place or rescue. If not then it gets put down.</quote> Do vets somehow get reimbursed? Are they legally forced to give treatment out of pocket to any animals brought in unclaimed? I'm not here to argue morality but from a business standpoint indont see how you could be forced to treat them out of pocket knowing full well when they go to a rescue theres a good chance they'll be put down anyways</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zachnorn 05/27/19 11:37:19 AM #24:	It's probably regional. I remember someone around the LA area saying they were going to get charged for any necessary procedures for a stray animal so they ended up having it be put down because they couldn't afford it and couldn't take an animal in. --- <D <cite>Zachnorn posted [p:922430165] in People are... [t:77742485]...</cite> <quote>It's probably regional. I remember someone around the LA area saying they were going to get charged for any necessary procedures for a stray animal so they ended up having it be put down because they couldn't afford it and couldn't take an animal in.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maniac64 05/27/19 12:16:28 PM #25:	I guess I've just always lived places where that is the case. If it's not true across the country then that is news to me. I'm not sure how the business side works but I think cost is usually covered by a rescue or just donations to the vet place. --- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris <cite>Maniac64 posted [p:922431461] in People are... [t:77742485]...</cite> <quote>I guess I've just always lived places where that is the case. If it's not true across the country then that is news to me. I'm not sure how the business side works but I think cost is usually covered by a rescue or just donations to the vet place.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShatteredElysium 05/27/19 1:10:45 PM #26:	Psyonix posted... Maniac64 posted... They treat it and if they can help it great. Then it will go to an adoption place or rescue. If not then it gets put down. Do vets somehow get reimbursed? Are they legally forced to give treatment out of pocket to any animals brought in unclaimed? I'm not here to argue morality but from a business standpoint indont see how you could be forced to treat them out of pocket knowing full well when they go to a rescue theres a good chance they'll be put down anyways They aren't legally obligated to do it but I'd imagine a lot of vets, especially owners of the clinics, got into the business because they loved animals / wanted to help them. Also when you surrender the animal, the vet clinic then takes ownership of it so its up to them which rescue it goes to or some do adoptions themselves. So they would know ahead of time whether it's going to a kill shelter or not. I know a lot around here are no kill shelters. The one I went to last night was pretty great. I had to have a long conversation with them to make sure that if i surrendered the animal to them they wouldn't just euthanize and they would actually treat him if possible and his injuries weren't too bad. I'd have likely paid for the care myself and taken ownership of the cat if that wasn't the case but I realize that's not going to be the norm. I think the clinics just genuinely want to help though. They aren't going to let an animal unnecessarily suffer if you turn up with one <cite>ShatteredElysium posted [p:922433384] in People are... [t:77742485]...</cite> <quote><cite>Psyonix posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Maniac64 posted...</cite> <quote>They treat it and if they can help it great. Then it will go to an adoption place or rescue. If not then it gets put down.</quote> Do vets somehow get reimbursed? Are they legally forced to give treatment out of pocket to any animals brought in unclaimed? I'm not here to argue morality but from a business standpoint indont see how you could be forced to treat them out of pocket knowing full well when they go to a rescue theres a good chance they'll be put down anyways</quote> They aren't legally obligated to do it but I'd imagine a lot of vets, especially owners of the clinics, got into the business because they loved animals / wanted to help them. Also when you surrender the animal, the vet clinic then takes ownership of it so its up to them which rescue it goes to or some do adoptions themselves. So they would know ahead of time whether it's going to a kill shelter or not. I know a lot around here are no kill shelters. The one I went to last night was pretty great. I had to have a long conversation with them to make sure that if i surrendered the animal to them they wouldn't just euthanize and they would actually treat him if possible and his injuries weren't too bad. I'd have likely paid for the care myself and taken ownership of the cat if that wasn't the case but I realize that's not going to be the norm. I think the clinics just genuinely want to help though. They aren't going to let an animal unnecessarily suffer if you turn up with one</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nrrr 05/27/19 2:52:31 PM #27:	Psyonix posted... Nrrr posted... Just think how many animals are killed by us for food, from climate change and ecosystem destruction related to our reliance on car travel. Humans are complete assholes. Irredeemable species. Well I mean there's nothing to redeem. Are you angry with our ancestors from 100000 years ago who needed to hunt for survival? this is like asking 'would you kill baby hitler?' who cares? irrelevant. the point is we have directly caused the extinction of millions of species. saving a cat on the road isn't gonna make people not terrible. <cite>Nrrr posted [p:922437288] in People are... [t:77742485]...</cite> <quote><cite>Psyonix posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nrrr posted...</cite> <quote>Just think how many animals are killed by us for food, from climate change and ecosystem destruction related to our reliance on car travel. Humans are complete assholes. Irredeemable species.</quote> Well I mean there's nothing to redeem. Are you angry with our ancestors from 100000 years ago who needed to hunt for survival?</quote> this is like asking 'would you kill baby hitler?' who cares? irrelevant. the point is we have directly caused the extinction of millions of species. saving a cat on the road isn't gonna make people not terrible.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jcgamer107 05/27/19 5:45:58 PM #28:	Nrrr posted... we have directly caused the extinction of millions of species seems kinda high --- Official Advokaiser advocate <cite>jcgamer107 posted [p:922443280] in People are... [t:77742485]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nrrr posted...</cite> <quote>we have directly caused the extinction of millions of species</quote> seems kinda high</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nrrr 05/27/19 6:39:20 PM #29:	Sure if you have never heard about it until now it might seem outrageous <cite>Nrrr posted [p:922445187] in People are... [t:77742485]...</cite> <quote>Sure if you have never heard about it until now it might seem outrageous</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MegaWentEvil 05/27/19 7:34:09 PM #30:	Nrrr posted... this is like asking 'would you kill baby hitler?' I mean, it IS literally Hitler, but he didn't kill anyone yet, so no. <cite>MegaWentEvil posted [p:922447329] in People are... [t:77742485]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nrrr posted...</cite> <quote>this is like asking 'would you kill baby hitler?'</quote> I mean, it IS literally Hitler, but he didn't kill anyone yet, so no.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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