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WastelandCowboy 05/24/19 11:46:12 AM #1:	https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48395905 Theresa May has said she will quit as Conservative leader on 7 June, paving the way for a contest to decide a new prime minister. In an emotional statement, she said she had done her best to deliver Brexit and it was a matter of "deep regret" that she had been unable to do so. Mrs May said she would continue to serve as PM while a Conservative leadership contest takes place. The party said it hoped a new leader could be in place by the end of July. It means Mrs May will still be prime minister when US President Donald Trump makes his state visit to the UK at the start of June. Mrs May announced she would step down as Tory leader on 7 June and had agreed with the chairman of Tory backbenchers that a leadership contest should begin the following week. On Friday, Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt became the latest MP to say that he would run for the party leadership, joining Boris Johnson, Esther McVey and Rory Stewart, who had already confirmed their intentions. More than a dozen others are believed to be seriously considering entering the contest. In her statement, Mrs May said she had done "everything I can" to convince MPs to support the withdrawal deal she had negotiated with the European Union but it was now in the "best interests of the country for a new prime minister to lead that effort". She added that, in order to deliver Brexit, her successor would have to build agreement in Parliament. "Such a consensus can only be reached if those on all sides of the debate are willing to compromise," she said. Mrs May's voice shook as she ended her speech saying: "I will shortly leave the job that it has been the honour of my life to hold. "The second female prime minister, but certainly not the last. "I do so with no ill will, but with enormous and enduring gratitude to have had the opportunity to serve the country I love." The prime minister had faced a backlash from her MPs after announcing her latest Brexit plan earlier this week, which included concessions aimed at attracting cross-party support. In a statement, the Conservative Party said the likely timetable for the party leadership contest was that nominations would close during the week beginning 10 June, with the process of whittling down candidates to the final two to conclude by the end of the month. Those names would then be put to a vote of party members before the end of July. Former foreign secretary Boris Johnson, who is seen as the front-runner to succeed Mrs May, told an economic conference in Switzerland on Friday: "We will leave the EU on October 31, deal or no deal." He said a new leader would have "the opportunity to do things differently". "The way to get a good deal is to prepare for a no deal," he added. Labour Leader Jeremy Corbyn said Mrs May had been "right to resign" and that the Conservative Party was now "disintegrating". A series of Conservative MPs praised Mrs May following her statement. Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt said she was a "true public servant": Chief whip Julian Smith praised her commitment to the country as "outstanding": And Chancellor Philip Hammond said it had been a "privilege" to serve alongside her: Mrs May's predecessor, David Cameron - who resigned as PM after campaigning for Remain and losing the referendum - said she should be thanked for her "tireless efforts". He added: "I know how painful it is to accept that your time is up and a new leader is required. "She has made the right decision - and I hope that the spirit of compromise is continued." <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:922313574] in Theresa Ma... [t:77737227]...</cite> <quote>https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48395905 <quote>Theresa May has said she will quit as Conservative leader on 7 June, paving the way for a contest to decide a new prime minister. In an emotional statement, she said she had done her best to deliver Brexit and it was a matter of "deep regret" that she had been unable to do so. Mrs May said she would continue to serve as PM while a Conservative leadership contest takes place. The party said it hoped a new leader could be in place by the end of July. It means Mrs May will still be prime minister when US President Donald Trump makes his state visit to the UK at the start of June. Mrs May announced she would step down as Tory leader on 7 June and had agreed with the chairman of Tory backbenchers that a leadership contest should begin the following week. On Friday, Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt became the latest MP to say that he would run for the party leadership, joining Boris Johnson, Esther McVey and Rory Stewart, who had already confirmed their intentions. More than a dozen others are believed to be seriously considering entering the contest. In her statement, Mrs May said she had done "everything I can" to convince MPs to support the withdrawal deal she had negotiated with the European Union but it was now in the "best interests of the country for a new prime minister to lead that effort". She added that, in order to deliver Brexit, her successor would have to build agreement in Parliament. "Such a consensus can only be reached if those on all sides of the debate are willing to compromise," she said. Mrs May's voice shook as she ended her speech saying: "I will shortly leave the job that it has been the honour of my life to hold. "The second female prime minister, but certainly not the last. "I do so with no ill will, but with enormous and enduring gratitude to have had the opportunity to serve the country I love." The prime minister had faced a backlash from her MPs after announcing her latest Brexit plan earlier this week, which included concessions aimed at attracting cross-party support. In a statement, the Conservative Party said the likely timetable for the party leadership contest was that nominations would close during the week beginning 10 June, with the process of whittling down candidates to the final two to conclude by the end of the month. Those names would then be put to a vote of party members before the end of July. Former foreign secretary Boris Johnson, who is seen as the front-runner to succeed Mrs May, told an economic conference in Switzerland on Friday: "We will leave the EU on October 31, deal or no deal." He said a new leader would have "the opportunity to do things differently". "The way to get a good deal is to prepare for a no deal," he added. Labour Leader Jeremy Corbyn said Mrs May had been "right to resign" and that the Conservative Party was now "disintegrating". A series of Conservative MPs praised Mrs May following her statement. Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt said she was a "true public servant": Chief whip Julian Smith praised her commitment to the country as "outstanding": And Chancellor Philip Hammond said it had been a "privilege" to serve alongside her: Mrs May's predecessor, David Cameron - who resigned as PM after campaigning for Remain and losing the referendum - said she should be thanked for her "tireless efforts". He added: "I know how painful it is to accept that your time is up and a new leader is required. "She has made the right decision - and I hope that the spirit of compromise is continued." </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WastelandCowboy 05/24/19 11:46:32 AM #2:	German Chancellor Angela Merkel said she had always worked well with Mrs May adding: "Britain's departure from the European Union is a major transition and regardless of what happens now in Britain, the German government will do everything to achieve a good partnership, an orderly exit and good co-operation and I hope that will remain the case in the future." Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon wished Mrs May well despite "profound disagreements" but added: "The prospect of an even more hardline Brexiteer now becoming PM and threatening a no-deal exit is deeply concerning. "Added to the experience of the past three years, this makes it all the more important that Scotland is given the choice of becoming an independent country." Democratic Unionist Party Leader Arlene Foster, whose party supported Mrs May's government in power after the Conservatives lost their majority in the 2017 election, praised Mrs May's "dutiful approach on national issues". Lib Dem leader Sir Vince Cable said it was Mrs May's compromises with the right-wing of her party were to blame, adding: "The best and only option remains to take Brexit back to the people. I believe the public would now choose to stop Brexit." But Brexit Party Leader Nigel Farage said two Conservative leaders whose "instincts were pro-EU" had now gone and the party either "learns that lesson, or it dies". Following her emotional coda to her statement on the steps of Downing Street, expect the tributes to Theresa May to flood in, even from those pushing her from office. Her resilience. Her determination. Her sense of duty. Ultimately, though, her premiership fell apart in an attempt to bring people together. Her Brexit deal stymied by too many of her own MPs, she tried to reach out across the Commons. But in proposing a vote on a referendum - even though she expected MPs to reject another public vote - she over-reached. Some members of her cabinet who are manoeuvring to replace her withdrew their consent from her latest plan, effectively throwing out its compromises and her leadership. She pointed today to some of her achievements in office but frankly she has had to announce the timetable for her departure before securing the legacy she desired - leaving the EU with a deal. In a hung parliament, the question now is whether the next Conservative leader will be able to succeed where she failed. Or whether something more radical will be required: no deal, a new referendum, or a general election. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:922313588] in Theresa Ma... [t:77737227]...</cite> <quote><quote>German Chancellor Angela Merkel said she had always worked well with Mrs May adding: "Britain's departure from the European Union is a major transition and regardless of what happens now in Britain, the German government will do everything to achieve a good partnership, an orderly exit and good co-operation and I hope that will remain the case in the future." Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon wished Mrs May well despite "profound disagreements" but added: "The prospect of an even more hardline Brexiteer now becoming PM and threatening a no-deal exit is deeply concerning. "Added to the experience of the past three years, this makes it all the more important that Scotland is given the choice of becoming an independent country." Democratic Unionist Party Leader Arlene Foster, whose party supported Mrs May's government in power after the Conservatives lost their majority in the 2017 election, praised Mrs May's "dutiful approach on national issues". Lib Dem leader Sir Vince Cable said it was Mrs May's compromises with the right-wing of her party were to blame, adding: "The best and only option remains to take Brexit back to the people. I believe the public would now choose to stop Brexit." But Brexit Party Leader Nigel Farage said two Conservative leaders whose "instincts were pro-EU" had now gone and the party either "learns that lesson, or it dies". Following her emotional coda to her statement on the steps of Downing Street, expect the tributes to Theresa May to flood in, even from those pushing her from office. Her resilience. Her determination. Her sense of duty. Ultimately, though, her premiership fell apart in an attempt to bring people together. Her Brexit deal stymied by too many of her own MPs, she tried to reach out across the Commons. But in proposing a vote on a referendum - even though she expected MPs to reject another public vote - she over-reached. Some members of her cabinet who are manoeuvring to replace her withdrew their consent from her latest plan, effectively throwing out its compromises and her leadership. She pointed today to some of her achievements in office but frankly she has had to announce the timetable for her departure before securing the legacy she desired - leaving the EU with a deal. In a hung parliament, the question now is whether the next Conservative leader will be able to succeed where she failed. Or whether something more radical will be required: no deal, a new referendum, or a general election.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GanonsSpirit 05/24/19 11:50:08 AM #3:	They should probably just cancel Brexit. Sounds like an all paths lead to hell kind of thing. --- https://imgur.com/tsQUpxC Thanks, Nade Duck! [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] <cite>GanonsSpirit posted [p:922313728] in Theresa Ma... [t:77737227]...</cite> <quote>They should probably just cancel Brexit. Sounds like an all paths lead to hell kind of thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 05/24/19 12:42:25 PM #4:	She was voted in for Brexit, did nothing for 2 years then failed. What a mess. GanonsSpirit posted... They should probably just cancel Brexit. Sounds like an all paths lead to hell kind of thing. The EU is hell, also they're trying to bully us, we should leave even if only to spite them. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:922315613] in Theresa Ma... [t:77737227]...</cite> <quote>She was voted in for Brexit, did nothing for 2 years then failed. What a mess. <cite>GanonsSpirit posted...</cite> <quote>They should probably just cancel Brexit. Sounds like an all paths lead to hell kind of thing.</quote> The EU is hell, also they're trying to bully us, we should leave even if only to spite them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 05/24/19 12:53:33 PM #5:	GanonsSpirit posted... They should probably just cancel Brexit. No. We voted out so we should be out. Although with that said they probably will keep doing retakes until they get what they want. In relation to this story though eh. Doesn't really matter who is our PM as we always get shafted anyway. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:922316022] in Theresa Ma... [t:77737227]...</cite> <quote><cite>GanonsSpirit posted...</cite> <quote>They should probably just cancel Brexit. </quote> No. We voted out so we should be out. Although with that said they probably will keep doing retakes until they get what they want. In relation to this story though eh. Doesn't really matter who is our PM as we always get shafted anyway.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nichtcrawler X 05/24/19 12:56:01 PM #6:	wwinterj25 posted... No. We voted out so we should be out. Even if the general consensus has shifted since then? --- Official Teetotaller of PotD Dovie'andi se tovya sagain! <cite>Nichtcrawler X posted [p:922316092] in Theresa Ma... [t:77737227]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote>No. We voted out so we should be out. </quote> Even if the general consensus has shifted since then?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 05/24/19 12:58:45 PM #7:	Nichtcrawler X posted... Even if the general consensus has shifted since then? Yes. We took a vote and that's that. Scare mongering and retaking votes just to get the outcome they want and not the general pubic is silly at best. It also makes it pointless voting if they are just going to keep retaking them. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:922316189] in Theresa Ma... [t:77737227]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nichtcrawler X posted...</cite> <quote>Even if the general consensus has shifted since then?</quote> Yes. We took a vote and that's that. Scare mongering and retaking votes just to get the outcome they want and not the general pubic is silly at best. It also makes it pointless voting if they are just going to keep retaking them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 05/24/19 1:05:57 PM #8:	Nichtcrawler X posted... wwinterj25 posted... No. We voted out so we should be out. Even if the general consensus has shifted since then? The first vote didn't get acted on, so no you don't get to try again. The government doesn't get to intentionally fuck up the country to force the population to comply otherwise democracy is a complete farce. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:922316435] in Theresa Ma... [t:77737227]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nichtcrawler X posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote>No. We voted out so we should be out. </quote> Even if the general consensus has shifted since then?</quote> The first vote didn't get acted on, so no you don't get to try again. The government doesn't get to intentionally fuck up the country to force the population to comply otherwise democracy is a complete farce.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 05/24/19 2:31:10 PM #9:	good means that i'll still be able to buy seeds from there... --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WErq2CBYTU <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:922319686] in Theresa Ma... [t:77737227]...</cite> <quote>good means that i'll still be able to buy seeds from there...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 05/24/19 2:38:17 PM #10:	The whole Brexit mess is a great example of why in the U.S., any sweeping changes of the level that it requires an amendment to the Constitution or such, generally requires an overwhelming 2/3 or even 3/4 portion of the vote. Brexit was to radically change the entire economic and foreign policy position of the UK, and it fucking passed on 52% to 48%, with scores of voters admitting they weren't particularly informed of what sort of impacts Brexit would even have. Anyone w/ half a brain could tell it was going to be a complete train wreck the second they saw the vote percentages. Half the country didn't even want to do it. And who knows how many who voted for it even had the faintest idea how deep the repercussions could be? <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:922319955] in Theresa Ma... [t:77737227]...</cite> <quote>The whole Brexit mess is a great example of why in the U.S., any sweeping changes of the level that it requires an amendment to the Constitution or such, generally requires an overwhelming 2/3 or even 3/4 portion of the vote. Brexit was to radically change the entire economic and foreign policy position of the UK, and it fucking passed on 52% to 48%, with scores of voters admitting they weren't particularly informed of what sort of impacts Brexit would even have. Anyone w/ half a brain could tell it was going to be a complete train wreck the second they saw the vote percentages. Half the country didn't even want to do it. And who knows how many who voted for it even had the faintest idea how deep the repercussions could be?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blightzkrieg 05/24/19 3:05:13 PM #11:	Kyuubi4269 posted... Nichtcrawler X posted... wwinterj25 posted... No. We voted out so we should be out. Even if the general consensus has shifted since then? The first vote didn't get acted on, so no you don't get to try again. The government doesn't get to intentionally fuck up the country to force the population to comply otherwise democracy is a complete farce. "We cant vote on it that would be undemocratic" --- https://imgtc.com/i/sIhpHts.jpg <cite>Blightzkrieg posted [p:922321005] in Theresa Ma... [t:77737227]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nichtcrawler X posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote>No. We voted out so we should be out. </quote> Even if the general consensus has shifted since then?</quote> The first vote didn't get acted on, so no you don't get to try again. The government doesn't get to intentionally fuck up the country to force the population to comply otherwise democracy is a complete farce.</quote> "We cant vote on it that would be undemocratic"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GanonsSpirit 05/24/19 3:09:09 PM #12:	wwinterj25 posted... No. We voted out so we should be out. You'd probably think differently if you lived in Northern Ireland. --- https://imgur.com/tsQUpxC Thanks, Nade Duck! [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] <cite>GanonsSpirit posted [p:922321165] in Theresa Ma... [t:77737227]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote>No. We voted out so we should be out.</quote> You'd probably think differently if you lived in Northern Ireland.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 05/24/19 3:26:17 PM #13:	Blightzkrieg posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... Nichtcrawler X posted... wwinterj25 posted... No. We voted out so we should be out. Even if the general consensus has shifted since then? The first vote didn't get acted on, so no you don't get to try again. The government doesn't get to intentionally fuck up the country to force the population to comply otherwise democracy is a complete farce. "We cant vote on it that would be undemocratic" You can't ignore the vote, that would be undemocratic. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:922321819] in Theresa Ma... [t:77737227]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blightzkrieg posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nichtcrawler X posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote>No. We voted out so we should be out. </quote> Even if the general consensus has shifted since then?</quote> The first vote didn't get acted on, so no you don't get to try again. The government doesn't get to intentionally fuck up the country to force the population to comply otherwise democracy is a complete farce.</quote> "We cant vote on it that would be undemocratic"</quote> You can't ignore the vote, that would be undemocratic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 05/24/19 3:37:20 PM #14:	Well, it is the end of May, after all... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:922322259] in Theresa Ma... [t:77737227]...</cite> <quote>Well, it is the end of May, after all...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 05/24/19 3:43:44 PM #15:	LinkPizza posted... Well, it is the end of May, after all... She can't even leave Parliament in a timely manner lol --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:922322491] in Theresa Ma... [t:77737227]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Well, it is the end of May, after all...</quote> She can't even leave Parliament in a timely manner lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nichtcrawler X 05/24/19 3:48:39 PM #16:	wwinterj25 posted... Nichtcrawler X posted... Even if the general consensus has shifted since then? Yes. We took a vote and that's that. Scare mongering and retaking votes just to get the outcome they want and not the general pubic is silly at best. It also makes it pointless voting if they are just going to keep retaking them. It really is a lose/lose right now. A lot of people feel they were misinformed during the first vote. That can cause a lot of resentment aimed at the government. --- Official Teetotaller of PotD Dovie'andi se tovya sagain! <cite>Nichtcrawler X posted [p:922322658] in Theresa Ma... [t:77737227]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nichtcrawler X posted...</cite> <quote>Even if the general consensus has shifted since then?</quote> Yes. We took a vote and that's that. Scare mongering and retaking votes just to get the outcome they want and not the general pubic is silly at best. It also makes it pointless voting if they are just going to keep retaking them.</quote> It really is a lose/lose right now. A lot of people feel they were misinformed during the first vote. That can cause a lot of resentment aimed at the government.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeetCheet 05/24/19 5:10:12 PM #17:	EU is crap. They want to turn the whole continent into a China 2.0 --- https://imgur.com/eQrRxik https://imgur.com/NC8itow <cite>LeetCheet posted [p:922325528] in Theresa Ma... [t:77737227]...</cite> <quote>EU is crap. They want to turn the whole continent into a China 2.0</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 05/24/19 5:14:17 PM #18:	GanonsSpirit posted... You'd probably think differently if you lived in Northern Ireland. Northern Ireland isn't Britain so I don't care. Nichtcrawler X posted... A lot of people feel they were misinformed during the first vote. Not sure what makes you think that. Most as far as I know still want out. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:922325658] in Theresa Ma... [t:77737227]...</cite> <quote><cite>GanonsSpirit posted...</cite> <quote>You'd probably think differently if you lived in Northern Ireland.</quote> Northern Ireland isn't Britain so I don't care. <cite>Nichtcrawler X posted...</cite> <quote> A lot of people feel they were misinformed during the first vote. </quote> Not sure what makes you think that. Most as far as I know still want out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blightzkrieg 05/24/19 5:24:50 PM #19:	At this point it's starting to not matter what Britain wants because they clearly aren't able to implement it. 50 years from now we'll still be halfway through Brexit. --- https://imgtc.com/i/sIhpHts.jpg <cite>Blightzkrieg posted [p:922326047] in Theresa Ma... [t:77737227]...</cite> <quote>At this point it's starting to not matter what Britain wants because they clearly aren't able to implement it. 50 years from now we'll still be halfway through Brexit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TigerTycoon 05/24/19 5:44:47 PM #20:	GanonsSpirit posted... They should probably just cancel Brexit. Sounds like an all paths lead to hell kind of thing. That's saying the government should ignore voter results if they disagree with the outcome. --- YOU COULDN'T AFFORD IT! <cite>TigerTycoon posted [p:922326772] in Theresa Ma... [t:77737227]...</cite> <quote><cite>GanonsSpirit posted...</cite> <quote>They should probably just cancel Brexit. Sounds like an all paths lead to hell kind of thing.</quote> That's saying the government should ignore voter results if they disagree with the outcome.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GanonsSpirit 05/24/19 5:49:17 PM #21:	TigerTycoon posted... That's saying the government should ignore voter results if they disagree with the outcome. Kicking this to the populace with a vote was a massive mistake. The average layman definitely doesn't know enough about the situation and the repercussions to make an informed vote. The people responsible should cancel Brexit and pay for it with their careers. --- https://imgur.com/tsQUpxC Thanks, Nade Duck! [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] <cite>GanonsSpirit posted [p:922326930] in Theresa Ma... [t:77737227]...</cite> <quote><cite>TigerTycoon posted...</cite> <quote>That's saying the government should ignore voter results if they disagree with the outcome.</quote> Kicking this to the populace with a vote was a massive mistake. The average layman definitely doesn't know enough about the situation and the repercussions to make an informed vote. The people responsible should cancel Brexit and pay for it with their careers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 05/24/19 9:48:32 PM #22:	TigerTycoon posted... GanonsSpirit posted... They should probably just cancel Brexit. Sounds like an all paths lead to hell kind of thing. That's saying the government should ignore voter results if they disagree with the outcome. For fuck sakes, it was 52-48, all you guys saying this are acting like it was overwhelmingly supported. I mean...those were the rules, so it can't be helped. But cripes were the rules poorly thought out. Not only the simple majority being enough, but having a voter referendum o it in the first place. May, in the last few years and especially the past 24 hours, has taken a LOT of shit over the Brexit mess, and it's hard to feel sorry for her b/c she is partly responsible. But I truly do hope when this is looked back on in the future, David Cameron (the dumb fuck who initiated all of this), Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage, and the other "brains" behind the whole thing are identified by historians as the prime culprits in it all. Fucking cowards set it all in motion then hid behind her. <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:922335516] in Theresa Ma... [t:77737227]...</cite> <quote><cite>TigerTycoon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GanonsSpirit posted...</cite> <quote>They should probably just cancel Brexit. Sounds like an all paths lead to hell kind of thing.</quote> That's saying the government should ignore voter results if they disagree with the outcome.</quote> For fuck sakes, it was 52-48, all you guys saying this are acting like it was overwhelmingly supported. I mean...those were the rules, so it can't be helped. But cripes were the rules poorly thought out. Not only the simple majority being enough, but having a voter referendum o it in the first place. May, in the last few years and especially the past 24 hours, has taken a LOT of shit over the Brexit mess, and it's hard to feel sorry for her b/c she is partly responsible. But I truly do hope when this is looked back on in the future, David Cameron (the dumb fuck who initiated all of this), Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage, and the other "brains" behind the whole thing are identified by historians as the prime culprits in it all. Fucking cowards set it all in motion then hid behind her.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmegaM 05/26/19 10:27:53 PM #23:	I thought she was somewhat attractive for her age. Anybody else? <cite>OmegaM posted [p:922413093] in Theresa Ma... [t:77737227]...</cite> <quote>I thought she was somewhat attractive for her age. Anybody else?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/26/19 10:41:02 PM #24:	GanonsSpirit posted... They should probably just cancel Brexit. Sounds like an all paths lead to hell kind of thing. "They should probably just ignore the thing they keep voting in favor of because fuck the peons, they're just property of the global elite." The fact that the Brexit Party won sends a pretty fucking clear signal about the way the country wants to go. And staying in the EU is still an all paths lead to hell thing. Nichtcrawler X posted... wwinterj25 posted... No. We voted out so we should be out. Even if the general consensus has shifted since then? "Let's ignore votes until we reach the result I want! That's how to run democracy!" You can talk about general consensus shifting, but the fact that a newly-created BREXIT PARTY won sends a pretty loud signal how the consensus is leaning right now. streamofthesky posted... with scores of voters admitting they weren't particularly informed of what sort of impacts Brexit would even have. Which is a lame cop-out and true of pretty much any vote. Welcome to democracy. Nichtcrawler X posted... That can cause a lot of resentment aimed at the government. You mean kinda like the resentment over the government ignoring a vote they put to the public in favor of what they want to do? Blightzkrieg posted... At this point it's starting to not matter what Britain wants because they clearly aren't able to implement it. They can implement it, they just don't want to. streamofthesky posted... For fuck sakes, it was 52-48, all you guys saying this are acting like it was overwhelmingly supported. "Democracy only counts if it's a 90%+ result!" And I'll tell you what was overwhelmingly supported --- the Brexit Party, which just won big. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:922413531] in Theresa Ma... [t:77737227]...</cite> <quote><cite>GanonsSpirit posted...</cite> <quote>They should probably just cancel Brexit. Sounds like an all paths lead to hell kind of thing.</quote> "They should probably just ignore the thing they keep voting in favor of because fuck the peons, they're just property of the global elite." The fact that the Brexit Party won sends a pretty fucking clear signal about the way the country wants to go. And staying in the EU is still an all paths lead to hell thing. <cite>Nichtcrawler X posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote>No. We voted out so we should be out. </quote> Even if the general consensus has shifted since then?</quote> "Let's ignore votes until we reach the result I want! That's how to run democracy!" You can talk about general consensus shifting, but the fact that a newly-created BREXIT PARTY won sends a pretty loud signal how the consensus is leaning right now. <cite>streamofthesky posted...</cite> <quote> with scores of voters admitting they weren't particularly informed of what sort of impacts Brexit would even have.</quote> Which is a lame cop-out and true of pretty much any vote. Welcome to democracy. <cite>Nichtcrawler X posted...</cite> <quote>That can cause a lot of resentment aimed at the government.</quote> You mean kinda like the resentment over the government ignoring a vote they put to the public in favor of what they want to do? <cite>Blightzkrieg posted...</cite> <quote>At this point it's starting to not matter what Britain wants because they clearly aren't able to implement it.</quote> They can implement it, they just don't want to. <cite>streamofthesky posted...</cite> <quote>For fuck sakes, it was 52-48, all you guys saying this are acting like it was overwhelmingly supported.</quote> "Democracy only counts if it's a 90%+ result!" And I'll tell you what was overwhelmingly supported --- the Brexit Party, which just won big.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Valiant_Kaiser 05/26/19 11:09:59 PM #25:	Brexit was rushed into and that's why it's such a mess. Neither side really spelled it out correctly and the basic options on the ballot were too vague. They needed a third option along the lines of "leave but only with a deal", to go along with the remain and leave options. Also, it should have required a stronger majority than just being over 50% for a thing that's so far-reaching in a number of ways. I think if they're required 60% and it passed, then okay. It's just a bunch of old people who can't accept that their country sold itself out for France and Belgium 100 years ago. The Empire put a gun in its mouth the moment it entered WWI. <cite>Valiant_Kaiser posted [p:922414502] in Theresa Ma... [t:77737227]...</cite> <quote>Brexit was rushed into and that's why it's such a mess. Neither side really spelled it out correctly and the basic options on the ballot were too vague. They needed a third option along the lines of "leave but only with a deal", to go along with the remain and leave options. Also, it should have required a stronger majority than just being over 50% for a thing that's so far-reaching in a number of ways. I think if they're required 60% and it passed, then okay. It's just a bunch of old people who can't accept that their country sold itself out for France and Belgium 100 years ago. The Empire put a gun in its mouth the moment it entered WWI.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/27/19 12:19:24 AM #26:	Valiant_Kaiser posted... the basic options on the ballot were too vague. They needed a third option along the lines of "leave but only with a deal", ...because that's any less vague? --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:922416808] in Theresa Ma... [t:77737227]...</cite> <quote><cite>Valiant_Kaiser posted...</cite> <quote>the basic options on the ballot were too vague. They needed a third option along the lines of "leave but only with a deal", </quote> ...because that's any less vague?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garlands_Soul 05/27/19 12:23:44 AM #27:	I hope Lord Buckethead runs again --- "I, Garland, will knock you all down!" <cite>Garlands_Soul posted [p:922416936] in Theresa Ma... [t:77737227]...</cite> <quote>I hope Lord Buckethead runs again</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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