Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 225: Pardon Me For My War Crimes Against Good Titles

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https://www.nintendoenthusiast.com/2019/05/23/trumps-new-tariff-proposals-include-a-25-tax-on-video-game-consoles/

Not sure if real, but the site isnt satire so

Paying 25% more for video games to own the libs
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Sounds like a business genius to me...!

Speaking of which, the best Onion articles are the ones that are basically just true:

https://politics.theonion.com/trump-warns-china-not-to-underestimate-his-willingness-1834977231
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Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/bernstein/status/1131610423386607617?s=21

RooshV, the most famous pickup artist blogger, well, ever, has just declared to his followers that he is now a devout Christian and no longer approves of casual sex and they can't talk about it on his website.

This is the fate that awaits ExTha

@ExThaNemesis
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

https://www.nintendoenthusiast.com/2019/05/23/trumps-new-tariff-proposals-include-a-25-tax-on-video-game-consoles/

Not sure if real, but the site isnt satire so

Paying 25% more for video games to own the libs

I haven't bought a video game console in 13 years. Bring on the tariffs!
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LordoftheMorons posted...

Sounds like a business genius to me...!

Speaking of which, the best Onion articles are the ones that are basically just true:

https://politics.theonion.com/trump-warns-china-not-to-underestimate-his-willingness-1834977231

This is what makes him an effective negotiator. You know that every line of that article is true. China knows it too. They'll fold after putting up enough of a fight to save face, as long as Trump offers them something that they can portray as a fair deal. Since all Trump wants is something he can portray as a well negotiated deal that makes him look smart and tough, they are all but bound to agree eventually.

Trump is quite popular in China because his bargaining style makes sense to the Chinese people - it's common in China.
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Nrrr posted...

pouring one out for the krassenstein brothers

https://t.co/kK2ooBWt9C?amp=1

Makes me giggle
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And again, the proof of Trump being a great negotiator is how much he's gotten others to part with while giving them nothing of value in return. Useless seminars that taught you how to pay for more seminars, steaks from a man who eats them well done with ketchup, tacky hotels, worthless stocks in companies that lose money every single year, junk bonds, the list goes on. He has made a career out of selling others garbage and he's among the best at it.
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https://twitter.com/thymetikon/status/1131702577878503425?s=19

Lmfao Naomi Wolf!!!!!

This might be the most humiliating thing I've ever heard
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red sox 777 posted...

And again, the proof of Trump being a great negotiator is how much he's gotten others to part with while giving them nothing of value in return. Useless seminars that taught you how to pay for more seminars, steaks from a man who eats them well done with ketchup, tacky hotels, worthless stocks in companies that lose money every single year, junk bonds, the list goes on. He has made a career out of selling others garbage and he's among the best at it.

No, that just proves he's a good conman. If he weren't born with a million dollars he'd probably be working the phones with a broken accent telling people their computers have a virus.
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Ashethan posted...

red sox 777 posted...

And again, the proof of Trump being a great negotiator is how much he's gotten others to part with while giving them nothing of value in return. Useless seminars that taught you how to pay for more seminars, steaks from a man who eats them well done with ketchup, tacky hotels, worthless stocks in companies that lose money every single year, junk bonds, the list goes on. He has made a career out of selling others garbage and he's among the best at it.

No, that just proves he's a good conman. If he weren't born with a million dollars he'd probably be working the phones with a broken accent telling people their computers have a virus.

Great negotiation skills by themselves won't necessarily make you rich. You need starting capital too. But there are people who start with capital and can't negotiate well. Like most of the Democrats in Congress.
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https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2019-05-23/kushner-cos-gets-800-million-federally-backed-apartment-loan?__twitter_impression=true
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TheRock1525 posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/bernstein/status/1131610423386607617?s=21

RooshV, the most famous pickup artist blogger, well, ever, has just declared to his followers that he is now a devout Christian and no longer approves of casual sex and they can't talk about it on his website.

This is the fate that awaits ExTha

@ExThaNemesis

I don't think Roosh was ever quite as famous as Mystery was. Maybe the most controversial.

Anyway, this is lame. But Roosh has long had the opinion that strict Christian values were the best thing for society, even if he didn't follow them.
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https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/05/24/europe/theresa-may-resigns-brexit-gbr-intl/index.html

The U.K. is never going to resolve this are they?
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Jakyl25 posted...

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/05/24/europe/theresa-may-resigns-brexit-gbr-intl/index.html

The U.K. is never going to resolve this are they?

If she's finally resigning they might have a chance now.
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Wait

The end of May jokes were a real thing...!

Reg posted...

Wait

The end of May jokes were a real thing...!

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Aww yeah.
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Maybe it'll be like the end of 500 days of summer where the UK finds a prime minister named June
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Is there actually a rule that the Prime Minister has to be British? The Speaker of the House in the US does not have to be a member of the House and I don't think there's even a rule requiring the Speaker to be American. King Louis XVI's First Minister was Swiss, not French, I think.
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red sox 777 posted...

Is there actually a rule that the Prime Minister has to be British?

Is there a rule that a dog can't be prime minister?
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They must have British citizenship, though they don't have to be born there.
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Hmm, I suppose the next question is whether you also have to be a subject of the Queen. Can you be a British citizen without being a subject?
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Xeybozn posted...

red sox 777 posted...

Is there actually a rule that the Prime Minister has to be British?

Is there a rule that a dog can't be prime minister?

*an increasingly panicked looking man flips through acts of parliament*

"H-he's technically right!"

THIS SUMMER BREXIT IS GOING TO THE DOGS

IN

AIR BUD: PRIME MINIFUR
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Dog Save the Queen
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This is why you should be making all the topic titles still.
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So while not related to politics directly, the Cleveland NBA team announced the other day that they're eliminating their all female dance team in favor of a co-ed dance team, and adding another all male dance team (they already have one.) Thus, if you're male, you have three teams to try out for. If you're female, you have one. And it's co-ed.

They say they're being progressive.

I'm not sure I follow?
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Trump declared an emergency to ram through arms deals with the Saudis.
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I wonder if the Queen would choose to abdicate before agreeing to make Boris PM.
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https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1131911083801960448

ivesssapology for a video which is allegedly is a caricature of an otherwise halting speech pattern, she should first stop, and apologize for, saying the President needs an intervention. Are

JeffreyRaze posted...

Trump declared an emergency to ram through arms deals with the Saudis.

Seems like something that will excite his base (the NRA donors)
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https://twitter.com/iknowplacesmp6/status/1131977960444108802?s=19

I'm generally not a fan of Owen Jones but this is a pretty good breakdown of things.

I did feel a little twinge of sympathy, though, just because of like a natural instinct or something I suppose. Seeing somebody break down live on camera is generally not a pleasant thing. But he's got a point, the fawning sadness in the media is bad and that "human level" question is even worse.
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GildedFool posted...

I wonder if the Queen would choose to abdicate before agreeing to make Boris PM.

How about taking back control and governing without a prime minister?
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https://www.al.com/news/2019/05/marriage-licenses-end-in-alabama-whats-next-what-it-means-if-youre-getting-married.html

So, the Alabama Legislature, in what I am only able to understand is an attempt to solve the issue of Judges disregarding their duty by not providing marriage licenses, has passed a bill that does away with Judge-issued marriage licenses. The couple signs an affidavit, sends it to the judge (who is required by the bill to record it), and that's it. They're spouses under the law. No religious aspects (Current AL law requires marriages to be "solemnized" by e.g a Priest), minimal tests (Not related, not already married, minors need to be 16 or older and have parental permission), no bullshit.

Alabama appears to have stumbled its way into legitimately good policy out of ill intent. Good job.

That is... remarkably progressive and not at all what I would have expected out of Alabama.
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I swear I remember when the Kim Davis shit happened, a bunch of Conservatives were like if you go after Kim Davis for her religious beliefs, well just get rid of marriage certificates!

And people were like ...ok?
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Not_an_Owl posted...

That is... remarkably progressive and not at all what I would have expected out of Alabama.

Gotta give 'em props when they do something actually good even when the intent is (As far as I can tell, at least) fucked

Reg posted...

https://www.al.com/news/2019/05/marriage-licenses-end-in-alabama-whats-next-what-it-means-if-youre-getting-married.html

So, the Alabama Legislature, in what I am only able to understand is an attempt to solve the issue of Judges disregarding their duty by not providing marriage licenses, has passed a bill that does away with Judge-issued marriage licenses. The couple signs an affidavit, sends it to the judge (who is required by the bill to record it), and that's it. They're spouses under the law. No religious aspects (Current AL law requires marriages to be "solemnized" by e.g a Priest), minimal tests (Not related, not already married, minors need to be 16 or older and have parental permission), no bullshit.

Alabama appears to have stumbled its way into legitimately good policy out of ill intent. Good job.

This sounds like a legitimately great idea and Im confused.

Like, hey great job Alabama. But Im both suspicious and confused.
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Is it a possible way to circumvent or undermine Obergefell in some way? That's the only thing I can think of

It's a policy that must have some use for proponents of conservative marriage but I don't know what it is

If I'm going out of my way to find the negative then I would say that it doesn't sound that they have changed the "normal" marriage procedures, but merely added these extra, optional methods.

So most people will still get "real marriages" and the "other people" can get their legal equivalent.

At least that's how it reads to me, that this isn't replacing the existing procedures, just adding new ones.
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

If I'm going out of my way to find the negative then I would say that it doesn't sound that they have changed the "normal" marriage procedures, but merely added these extra, optional methods.

So most people will still get "real marriages" and the "other people" can get their legal equivalent.

At least that's how it reads to me, that this isn't replacing the existing procedures, just adding new ones.

The bill would also end the practice of requiring a marriage be solemnized by a minister or someone else licensed to perform a ceremony. Current law requires a minister, judge, retired judge or person otherwise authorized to perform a ceremony to sign the marriage license before it is recorded.

Under the new law, the affidavit and forms would constitute a legal marriage, as long as they are submitted within 30 days of being signed by the two parties.

The state shall have no requirement for any ceremony or proceeding and whether or not a ceremony proceeding is performed or not performed shall have no legal effect on the validity of the marriage, the law notes.

I mean yes. If you're religious, you can still go to the church, have your ceremony, etc etc. But legally speaking, they have absolutely dropped those requirements.

Yes, dropped the requirement to have a marriage license. So most people can still choose to get one, and everyone else can just get the new thing.

I mean it's still better, this is just me squinting to find the negative.
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Apparently Trump was embarrassed enough to delete the original tweet for spelling Biden "Bidan", but not ashamed enough of the contents to avoid reposting it:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1132459370816708608
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He's claiming Kim called Biden a low IQ individual? Am I reading that right?
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Paratroopa1 posted...

Is it a possible way to circumvent or undermine Obergefell in some way? That's the only thing I can think of

It's a policy that must have some use for proponents of conservative marriage but I don't know what it is

Yeah, it's this. It is to let homophobic judges who don't want to give gay couples marriage licences save face with a loophole instead of getting a judge that actually respects the ruling.

The legislation came in response to the Supreme Courts landmark 2015 ruling that legalized same-sex marriage. Some probate judges in Alabama quit issuing marriage licenses, citing their objections to being forced to sign licenses to same-sex couples.

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TotallyNotMI posted...

He's claiming Kim called Biden a low IQ individual? Am I reading that right?

Read literally, yes it does say that. However, he's probably(?) referring to NK State Media saying that a few days ago.
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xp1337 posted...

NK State Media saying that a few days ago.

Yeah I missed that story. This makes more sense.
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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

Paratroopa1 posted...

Is it a possible way to circumvent or undermine Obergefell in some way? That's the only thing I can think of

It's a policy that must have some use for proponents of conservative marriage but I don't know what it is

Yeah, it's this. It is to let homophobic judges who don't want to give gay couples marriage licences save face with a loophole instead of getting a judge that actually respects the ruling.

The legislation came in response to the Supreme Courts landmark 2015 ruling that legalized same-sex marriage. Some probate judges in Alabama quit issuing marriage licenses, citing their objections to being forced to sign licenses to same-sex couples.

Yeah, but saving face is all it lets them do as far as I can tell. This doesn't let Alabama actually deny anything to anybody beyond the three criteria I mentioned when I posted the article.

Brexit Party wins in a landslide - look they've crushed Tories and Labour combined. Liberal Democrats in 2nd.
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It wasn't a landslide. They got 31% of the vote (only 4% more than Farage got last time despite the Tories collapsing), total pro-brexit vote was under 35%. The pro-remain vote was over 40%. This was a pretty good win for remain. The main frustration is that if Change UK hadn't run against the Lib Dems, there are FOUR brexit party seats that would have gone Lib Dem. The main takeaway from this election is that it is very important to not split the vote - a remain alliance, even if it was only Green+Lib Dem would have come first easily. But as a remainer I'll take this result, now to cancel brexit.

Anyway, since the EU election is incredibly important, here's how it went across the continent:

GUE-NGL (Left/Far-left, eurosceptic): 38 (-14)
S&D (Socialists&Social Democrats): 150 (-41)
Greens/EFA (Greens&Regionalists): 70 (+20)
ALDE (Liberals, eurofederalists): 107 (+40)
EPP (Centre-right): 179 (-43)
ECR (Conservatives, nationalists, eurosceptic): 58 (-12)
EFDD (Populists, eurosceptic): 56 (+8)
ENF (Nationalists, far-right): 58 (+21)

So all in all big gains for the liberals (Here liberal=centre, generally speaking), gains for the greens, and limited gains for the various right wing eurosceptic groups. Bad news for the establishment as the commission has been run by an EPP/S&D coalition since its formation and they lost their majority. Europe didn't really go left or right but fragmented in all directions, which may ultimately be good for democracy.
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Its weird hearing the party I vote for being called a liberal party.
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