Current Events > Epic is at it again!

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https://www.destructoid.com/epic-games-store-s-first-sale-is-off-to-a-rocky-start-554005.phtml?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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Tim "Epic is changing the gaming industry for good" Sweeney is getting desperate.
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Epic are trash
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Fuck Epic
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Can't wait to see how the Epic Defense Force spins this one.
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Highwind07 posted...

It has to do with the offer Epic is giving buyers for spending more than $14.99. Since you'll receive an additional $10 off of more expensive games, it creates a scenario where games are now being devalued before they even launch. While Epic is taking the hit with regard to its own profits for that deal, it is creating a scenario where the publishers cannot compete on other platforms for the same games (Bloodlines 2 is not an Epic exclusive).

Yep.

I can see why the devs are pulling the games out of a surprise sale that they didn't know about.

And fools actually believe Epic is pro developers LOL.
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Epic drama has made me want to stop buying video games altogether swablu
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After how aggressively they've pursued/conned high profile developers to sign these exclusive deals, they're going to do something THIS. FUCKING. DUMB?

Amazing lmfao
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Another odd case comes with Supergiant's Hades. Originally listed at a sale price of $6.99, the developer quietly raised the price of the game to $24.99 and altered the sale price to be $14.99. While the increased price was something Supergiant always intended to do as it added content (the game launched in early access with the Epic Games Store last year), it originally pledged to inform buyers well in advance of any price hikes. With Epic surprising the world with this mega sale, Supergiant felt the need to increase the price at the last minute. The studio has since apologized, but this could have all been avoided if Epic was more transparent with the publishers and developers it is hosting.

As for the consumer experience, this sale has showcased just how lacking the Epic storefront is. Since there still isn't a shopping cart function, users that are attempting to buy more than a handful of games are reporting their accounts getting locked down to prevent fraud. There's also no way to gift your friends titles, which means you're unable to surprise your friend with a game they may like. You can't even create a wishlist to inform you of sales prices, something that seems basic by today's standards.

lmfao @ both of these, how the hell. How do they not have a SHOPPING CART FEATURE in 2019 SERIOUSLY.

What is wrong with these idiots?
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Goats posted...

Epic drama has made me want to stop buying video games altogether swablu

The drama of a company giving you a $10 discount off orders of $15 a more.

Yall are going through a lot of hoops to find drama to justify your displeasure of having another launcher

Dont understand why people are so hostile towards competition
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The usual people showed up lmao
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BLAKUboy posted...

Can't wait to see how the Epic Defense Force spins this one.

CruelBuffalo posted...

Goats posted...

Epic drama has made me want to stop buying video games altogether swablu

The drama of a company giving you a $10 discount off orders of $15 a more.

Yall are going through a lot of hoops to find drama to justify your displeasure of having another launcher

UnfairRepresent posted...

Dont understand why people are so hostile towards competition

Ah
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"""""competition"""""
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Irony posted...

The usual people showed up lmao

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Irony posted...

The usual people showed up lmao

Yeah the non man children.

Nordstrom gave me a $10 credit for spending $250 in the store. Im sure Ted Bakers blood is BOILLLLLLLING because I devalued his backpack

So to be clear you guys are upset a storefront is giving you $10 off $15 or more correct?

Do they still do that spyware shit?
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Irony posted...

The usual people showed up lmao

Yeah it's kinda sad how the same people keep whining about nothing.
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Superlinkbro posted...

Do they still do that spyware shit?

Yeah
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Superlinkbro posted...

Do they still do that spyware shit?

Yes.
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Goats posted...

Superlinkbro posted...

Do they still do that spyware shit?

Yeah

Lol wow.
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CruelBuffalo posted...

Irony posted...

The usual people showed up lmao

Yeah the non man children.

Nordstrom gave me a $10 credit for spending $250 in the store. Im sure Ted Bakers blood is BOILLLLLLLING because I devalued his backpack

Nordstrom buys the backpack and then resells it.

If Nordstrom decides to sell a 250 backpack for 10 dollars, Nordstrom is the one to take the hit.

Epic Games does not do this. They provide a platform for the publisher to sell a game directly to the customer, and then they take a small cut of the sale.

So if Epic Games decides to arbitrarily sell a 60 dollar game for 50 dollars without the publisher's consent, they are now directly cutting into the publisher's profits.
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Hexenherz posted...

CruelBuffalo posted...

Irony posted...

The usual people showed up lmao

Yeah the non man children.

Nordstrom gave me a $10 credit for spending $250 in the store. Im sure Ted Bakers blood is BOILLLLLLLING because I devalued his backpack

Nordstrom buys the backpack and then resells it.

If Nordstrom decides to sell a 250 backpack for 10 dollars, Nordstrom is the one to take the hit.

Epic Games does not do this. They provide a platform for the publisher to sell a game directly to the customer, and then they take a small cut of the sale.

So if Epic Games decides to arbitrarily sell a 60 dollar game for 50 dollars without the publisher's consent, they are now directly cutting into the publisher's profits.

Totally wrong. The $10 is coming out of Epics pockets. They are doing this as a promotion to get more customers. The manufacturer is still getting the full value of their product. This is like when Amazon sold Lady Gagas album for $1 in order to get you to use their music service. Gaga still got the full profit.

The issue above listed was a publisher felt their game would lose value by appearing cheaper since they feel customers would associate their game as less quality since its not selling for full price. Not sure I agree but thats their argument. Not that Epic is giving them less money per sale.

Hexenherz posted...

Nordstrom buys the backpack and then resells it.

If Nordstrom decides to sell a 250 backpack for 10 dollars, Nordstrom is the one to take the hit.

Epic Games does not do this. They provide a platform for the publisher to sell a game directly to the customer, and then they take a small cut of the sale.

So if Epic Games decides to arbitrarily sell a 60 dollar game for 50 dollars without the publisher's consent, they are now directly cutting into the publisher's profits.

And this is, by extension, forcing games off the platform simply because Epic is incompetent.

And then the whole accounts getting locked to "prevent fraud" simply because they were too stupid to launch their platform with a fucking shopping cart feature.
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Oh.
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Highwind07 posted...

CruelBuffalo posted...

Irony posted...

The usual people showed up lmao

Yeah the non man children.

Nordstrom gave me a $10 credit for spending $250 in the store. Im sure Ted Bakers blood is BOILLLLLLLING because I devalued his backpack

They are devaluing their games with a surprise sale that the devs didn't even know about. In the Nordstrom case the suppliers already consented and the sale is from the pockets of Nordstrom and not Ted Baker.

Protip: Nordstrom doesnt need to ask for permission for flat discounts.

CruelBuffalo posted...

So to be clear you guys are upset a storefront is giving you $10 off $15 or more correct?

Yep lol. Unless theyre mad a developer took a game out temporarily
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Mark_DeRosa posted...

CruelBuffalo posted...

So to be clear you guys are upset a storefront is giving you $10 off $15 or more correct?

Yep lol. Unless theyre mad a developer took a game out temporarily

Lol right. like the irrationality rivals trump supporters

Epic is doing to Steam what Uber did to taxi companies: undercutting them by
1) pouring in a bunch of outside money (in this case revenue from Fortnite
2) cutting a lot of corners
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Are there people still defending Epic?
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While Epic is taking the hit with regard to its own profits for that deal, it is creating a scenario where the publishers cannot compete on other platforms for the same games (Bloodlines 2 is not an Epic exclusive).

Ah, there it is. The cynical board room nugget that explains why they're doing this.
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Before, Epic haters were hating for downloading a different launcher and storefront at the expense of publishers (review bombing and Epic paid more than Steam did; as in enough to keep them open for years)

Now they're getting a discount for games and can hate the developers like they want but they're still bitching because Epic

LightHawKnight posted...

Are there people still defending Epic?

Apparently.
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Again, Epic's reduced cut could be leveraged to corner the market and make more money for publishers.

30% cut on $60 means a publisher gets $42.
12% cut on $50 means a publisher gets $44.

But, for some dumb reason, publishers are pissed off when Epic takes a loss, just because the game has to be $60 for some unknown reason. I thought it was just Nintendo who is this stubborn.

Antifar posted...

Epic is doing to Steam what Uber did to taxi companies: undercutting them by
1) pouring in a bunch of outside money (in this case revenue from Fortnite
2) cutting a lot of corners

Bad comparison. Uber provided a way better service that was more reliable. I loved waiting 2 hours for a taxi for them never to arrive and half the time they dont take credit card. Lol

So why are "we" complaining? Gamers are getting a discount and devs/pubs are still getting paid what they should since Epic is eating the cost. Oh....it's just more fake outrage. Move along everyone.
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CruelBuffalo posted...

Irony posted...

The usual people showed up lmao

Yeah the non man children.

Irony
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ShadowElite86 posted...

So why are "we" complaining? Gamers are getting a discount and devs/pubs are still getting paid what they should since Epic is eating the cost. Oh....it's just more fake outrage. Move along everyone.

Fuck! I don't know, let's go review bomb on Steam again!

"epic has the dev's back!"
"EGS is better than steam!"
"competition is good!"

epic seems pretty scummy and their store seems clumsy and not at all well thought out. it's like they asked jim the intern to whip it up over the weekend and when the problems started piling up, their solution was "lol just throw some money at them, it'll be fine"

what a pile of shit

Irony posted...

CruelBuffalo posted...

Irony posted...

The usual people showed up lmao

Yeah the non man children.

Irony

So to be clear, youre mad a company is giving you $10 off orders of $15 or more?

CruelBuffalo posted...

So to be clear you guys are upset a storefront is giving you $10 off $15 or more correct?

Good job missing the point. People don't mind the sales, the sale itself isn't an issue for consumers. It is for devs, however. By adding a 10 dollar discount on top of any game out of their own pockets isn't a bad thing, but it also applies to pre-orders. While the devs won't take a hit now, since they are getting the difference straight from Epic, it does devaluate the game.

Instead of going for the original launch price of 60, it now goes for 50. By the time the game launches in 2020 (talking about Bloodlines 2) they are unable to compete on other storefronts for their own game. Lots of people will not buy the game day 1, since the know it was available for 50as pre-order, meaning the dev will lose out on lots of early release sales.

All the while Epic claims to be pro developers, this move actually fucks them over.

But yes, keep playing ignorant.
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Nazanir posted...

CruelBuffalo posted...

So to be clear you guys are upset a storefront is giving you $10 off $15 or more correct?

Good job missing the point. People don't mind the sales, the sale itself isn't an issue for consumers. It is for devs, however. By adding a 10 dollar discount on top of any game out of their own pockets isn't a bad thing, but it also applies to pre-orders. While the devs won't take a hit now, since they are getting the difference straight from Epic, it does devaluate the game.

Instead of going for the original launch price of 60, it now goes for 50. By the time the game launches in 2020 (talking about Bloodlines 2) they are unable to compete on other storefronts for their own game. Lots of people will not buy the game day 1, since the know it was available for 50as pre-order, meaning the dev will lose out on lots of early release sales.

All the while Epic claims to be pro developers, this move actually fucks them over.

But yes, keep playing ignorant.

How many of you keep this same energy at Kohls or Bed Bath & Beyond?

Did Epic retaliate against these devs? Did Epic refuse to let them delist? No?

Lol well this was a fun lunch

#GamersRiseUp

Defeat those $10 off promos!