Board 8 > Most of the Phoenix Wright games are on sale in the eShop until 5/23

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Crescent-Moon
05/16/19 8:41:26 PM
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I made a topic about two weeks ago asking if sales happened for these games and noticed this today..

It's $8.99 for Dual and $11.99 for Spirit, instead of $30 each. Everything else except for the Layton crossover is also on sale. (Apollo is $9.99, Trilogy is $11.99)

Though it brings up a question I forgot to ask two weeks ago: Is the trilogy a flat copyover port or is there anything it adds? I already have the games on the DS, and I haven't seen anything that suggests any major differences.

I also might buy Shovel Knight's definitive version. I saw it half off at $12.49 and it's a digital-only as far as I know.
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FBike1
05/16/19 8:48:00 PM
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Trilogy is a straight port except for graphics and typo fixes.
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ScareChan
05/16/19 8:50:26 PM
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This is for switch?

shit I was thinking about it after seeing a big of grumps start playing it

I also want Hollow Knight and Shovel Knight...
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Crescent-Moon
05/16/19 8:50:56 PM
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Mm, that matches the impression I've gotten, thank you.

I'm.. Not really the type to buy the same thing twice without a good reason.
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Crescent-Moon
05/16/19 8:52:10 PM
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ScareChan posted...
This is for switch?

shit I was thinking about it after seeing a big of grumps start playing it

I also want Hollow Knight and Shovel Knight...

It may be for switch as well. If it's on sale on one Nintendo platform I assume it would be for the other?
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Snrkiko
05/16/19 8:56:29 PM
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which ones are worth getting other than trilogy and dual destinies, which i already have
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Crescent-Moon
05/16/19 9:01:28 PM
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Snrkiko posted...
which ones are worth getting other than trilogy and dual destinies, which i already have

Spirit of Justice is the 6th game on the series timeline and I've heard nothing negative about it.

Apollo Justice is awful and I asked here a year or two ago if it was ever necessary or worth forcing myself through.. The answer was a resounding no.
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iiicon
05/16/19 9:11:51 PM
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Snrkiko posted...
which ones are worth getting other than trilogy and dual destinies, which i already have

you only need to play the trilogy. but if you want to keep going, you need apollo.
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Snrkiko
05/16/19 11:49:26 PM
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can i play dual destinies without apollo
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FBike1
05/16/19 11:58:07 PM
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Apollo is fine in DD, it's just (one case in) his own game that's regarded as crap.
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LeonhartFour
05/17/19 12:03:37 AM
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Snrkiko posted...
can i play dual destinies without apollo


a lot of stuff won't make sense but sure
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Snrkiko
05/17/19 12:14:06 AM
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btw if you want shovel knight buy it now

once the final (free) dlc is released (soon), the retail price for the full game is going to increase to $40
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PrinceOfKoopas
05/17/19 12:30:43 AM
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Crescent-Moon posted...
ScareChan posted...
This is for switch?

shit I was thinking about it after seeing a big of grumps start playing it

I also want Hollow Knight and Shovel Knight...

It may be for switch as well. If it's on sale on one Nintendo platform I assume it would be for the other?

Nope, 3DS only.

The multi-platform release for a month ago (including Switch) is still full price ($30).

CAPCOM does these sales very regularly, several times a year. They've been capped at 70% off for Dual Destinies, 60% off Trilogy and Spirit of Justice, and 50% off Apollo Justice since 2018.
https://www.koopatv.org/2019/05/ace-attorney-isnt-rpg-and-capcom-sale.html
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Punnyz
05/17/19 12:55:00 AM
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Waluigi1
05/17/19 8:13:36 AM
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No Switch, no buy.
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Crescent-Moon
05/18/19 12:15:08 AM
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I took a look and the DLC isn't on sale. Didn't really expect it to be.
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Punnyz
05/18/19 12:38:41 AM
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ScareChan
05/18/19 12:41:46 AM
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hmm shovel knight is on sale in switch shop

do I get it or no...
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LordoftheMorons
05/18/19 12:49:38 AM
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ScareChan posted...
hmm shovel knight is on sale in switch shop

do I get it or no...

Do it
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Waluigi1
05/18/19 7:49:09 PM
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ScareChan posted...
hmm shovel knight is on sale in switch shop

do I get it or no...

Definitely
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pjbasis
05/18/19 8:12:25 PM
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Apollo Justice is fine.

I can't believe anyone would suggest skipping it.
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Crescent-Moon
05/18/19 8:45:03 PM
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pjbasis posted...
Apollo Justice is fine.

I can't believe anyone would suggest skipping it.

When I asked if I *had* to play Apollo, almost everyone here told me I should skip it and I wouldn't miss anything by doing so.

I picked up Shovel Knight too. All versions of it are on sale.
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LeonhartFour
05/18/19 8:47:38 PM
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Crescent-Moon posted...
When I asked if I *had* to play Apollo, almost everyone here told me I should skip it and I wouldn't miss anything by doing so.


well B8 is wrong a lot
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Arti
05/18/19 9:13:12 PM
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Yeah, don't skip Apollo if you plan on playing Dual Destinies and especially if you plan on playing Spirit of Justice.
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colliding
05/18/19 9:16:03 PM
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AJ is essential, even if it's bad. DD and SoJ do a good job of making it relevant/interesting.

Speaking of, reminder that SoJ is the third best AA game!
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Crescent-Moon
05/18/19 9:19:21 PM
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This feels like the total opposite of everything that was said to me when I brought this up last year..
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LeonhartFour
05/18/19 9:20:09 PM
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well I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have given you that advice as the foremost Ace Attorney fanboy
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Shaduln
05/18/19 9:50:32 PM
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AJ isn't even bad. It just isn't as good as some of the other games.
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Snrkiko
05/18/19 9:54:50 PM
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i bought apollo justice

so i guess that leaves only spirit? which I'll wait for the next capcom sale since I've had the trilogy on 3ds for like4 years and haven't touched yet
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GANON1025
05/18/19 10:17:20 PM
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I know SoJ is on the iOS, is this sale price cheaper than the iOS price?
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PrinceOfKoopas
05/18/19 10:40:01 PM
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GANON1025 posted...
I know SoJ is on the iOS, is this sale price cheaper than the iOS price?

@GANON1025 Yes, you need to pay $16 for the iOS price.
3DS price on sale is $12.
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Crescent-Moon
05/19/19 5:15:53 PM
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The first case of Apollo is actually pretty good and easily the best first case of the series...

...But it's definitely going downhill from here, I suspect.
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LeonhartFour
05/19/19 5:31:29 PM
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Yeah, 4-1 is great. Not the best first case, in my opinion, but close.
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PrinceOfKoopas
05/19/19 5:42:23 PM
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Crescent-Moon posted...
The first case of Apollo is actually pretty good and easily the best first case of the series...

...But it's definitely going downhill from here, I suspect.

The first case is unfortunately the best case in the game.
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pjbasis
05/19/19 6:07:16 PM
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colliding
05/19/19 8:37:24 PM
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Minority opinion, but 4-2 is also good. 4-3 is awful. 4-4 is equal parts good, bad, and ugly, but overall it's just ..... "why"
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LeonhartFour
05/19/19 9:52:28 PM
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Crescent-Moon
05/19/19 9:59:06 PM
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If I had to guess, I'm of the minority opinion in at least one. It's been some time since I played the second game, but it's final case had two things that particularly bugged me.

The "twist" was painfully obvious before the trial even started. When Matt Engarde breaks his act for a moment to immediately respond to De Killer's name, it's so obvious he's at least an accessory to murder, and probably the one who hired De Killer in the first place. Shame on you if you ever thought he could actually be innocent after this point.. Then you add the fact that this is treated like an amazing plot point/twist half the case later. It so much worse.

The other thing that annoys me about that case is the gallery. Phoenix defends people who look incredibly guilty all the time. He's already represented two celebrities, including the previous Samurai. He was also a major actor (maybe not as high profile, but still pretty high), and essentially the only suspect for almost the entire first two days of his trail. If I recall, he called on Phoenix because *no one* else would take the case, because it was that "hopeless".

The gallery outrage feels completely forced, and only ends up severely hurting the mood of the case. All it's meant to do is bludgeon you for doing just about the same thing Phoenix always does.

Not going to hold Oldbag being even more terrible against this case too much.. She's in far too many in the series as it is.

Speaking of gallery outrage, "1-5" does this point so much better. While that case had it's flaws, it wasn't one of them. Serious corruption was being waved right in their face, and they reacted. It felt much more natural in this regard.
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Crescent-Moon
05/19/19 9:59:32 PM
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colliding posted...
Minority opinion, but 4-2 is also good. 4-3 is awful. 4-4 is equal parts good, bad, and ugly, but overall it's just ..... "why"

LeonhartFour posted...
4-2 is a bottom tier case.

...Do I have to?
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LeonhartFour
05/19/19 10:00:13 PM
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Crescent-Moon posted...
Shame on you if you ever thought he could actually be innocent after this point


It's a lawyer's job to believe in people, and believe to the bitter end.
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Crescent-Moon
05/19/19 10:02:11 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
Crescent-Moon posted...
Shame on you if you ever thought he could actually be innocent after this point


It's a lawyer's job to believe in people, and believe to the bitter end.

That's game mechanics. We aren't Lawyers, we're just playing one.

Also since I'm sure I'll be asked..

Guilty the first time is the only correct choice. I went Not Guilty the second time for the trolling
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LeonhartFour
05/19/19 10:03:19 PM
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And I take my role playing very seriously.

The game gives you just enough hope to latch onto if you actually want to believe.
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Crescent-Moon
05/19/19 10:11:11 PM
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He is confirmed at minimum an accessory to murder the moment he responds to the name.

It's only a matter after that point how far the rabbit hole goes.
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Arti
05/19/19 10:20:52 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
4-2 is a bottom tier case.


nah, that's 4-3. 4-2 is just average.
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LeonhartFour
05/19/19 10:22:06 PM
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They're both bottom tier

The bottom tier of AA is pretty small so it's impressive in a way that AJ gets two of them on there
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colliding
05/19/19 11:05:21 PM
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Crescent-Moon posted...
colliding posted...
Minority opinion, but 4-2 is also good. 4-3 is awful. 4-4 is equal parts good, bad, and ugly, but overall it's just ..... "why"

LeonhartFour posted...
4-2 is a bottom tier case.

...Do I have to?


I mean, yes, if you're gonna play DD and SoJ

although in my subsequent series playthroughs I usually skip 4-3 and 4-4 tbh

but it's still essential
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NFUN
05/19/19 11:37:48 PM
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4-2 was fine, I just beat it a few days ago. Not incredible, but I was entertained enough while playing it and it didn't offend me like some of JFA's cases did.
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MrSmartGuy
05/20/19 12:05:59 AM
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4-2 has a few really good moments that keep it clear of the trash tier for me.

Eldoon dropping the hat might be my favorite moment in the entire game. Also, the part where Alita admits she only hired you because she thought you were a fucking terrible lawyer is great, too.
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Grand Kirby
05/20/19 12:18:57 AM
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4-2 almost made me quit the series. Not really intentionally, but it was so bad I just fell out of it and stopped playing for some time before coming back and finishing the game.
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colliding
05/20/19 8:38:33 PM
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I mean we all agree that 4-3 is way worse than 4-2 right?

4-4 would actually be an okay case if they 1) removed Meekins from existence and 2) respected Shu Takumi's wishes and not included Phoenix in the game
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