Board 8 > Giant Bomb Topic - Spring 2019

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ninkendo
07/19/19 1:27:54 PM
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ninkendo
07/19/19 1:28:32 PM
#102:


I feel Bianca's pretty good at making sure they have most of the pronunciations correct
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Lightning Strikes
07/19/19 2:06:46 PM
#103:


Genjo Akami

All fine after the first episode though - though I do wonder if his pronunciation of Asuka was helped by the wrestler lols.

Also since the rerelease itself was mentioned the new dub is better than the original other than Asuka. The new script is a bit better overall but does lose some iconic lines and have some flaws like the like/love issue. No Fly Me to the Moon is the real tragedy.
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LapisLazuli
07/19/19 3:06:02 PM
#104:


I'm not a fan of the new dub, especially some of the localization changes and decisions. Definitely don't like the new Shinji as much compared to the, as far as I'm concerned, legendary Spike Spencer. I do think that's not the VAs fault, they're good in general, but the direction leaves a lot to be desired. There's certainly some questionable stuff with the localization lead at Stujdi Khara, too, and the choices he made and excuses he presented for said choices showing some contradictions and bias.

I think it's easily the worst way to watch Eva, compared to the original sub and dub. Losing Fly Me to the Moon is the one everyone is stuck on, but it's pretty low on my list of issues. Heck, even on the sub side of things, some technical issues with the subs where the on screen text isn't subbed while watching in Japanese ( but is if you watch it in English with subtitles??) means even that's inferior to digging up old subs.
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Lightning Strikes
07/19/19 7:57:52 PM
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Individually I agree with a lot of the flaws you list. However, it certainly is not the worst way to watch Eva but the best. Picture quality is hugely important for this show and the series has never looked (or sounded) this good. The series is also easier to access than ever which is very important.

As for the dubs (and full disclosure I have not yet watched 25&26 and EoE with the new dub), I don't agree overall. I think people often have a major case of rose-tinted glasses regarding the original dub (and the sub to a lesser extent). It was excellent for its time in the 90s. Spike Spencer and Tiffany Grant defined Shinji and Asuka for a generation. Rei, Misato, both Gendos, all great. The script was really good at adding flavour to a lot of regular lines as well. However, it has some pretty major flaws. The supporting cast is bad, and the script has errors in it which confuse the plot and even get some plot elements wrong (which affects the sub as well), and certain elements seem technically rough. The Netflix dub is a lot more even. The supporting cast is miles better. Casey Mongillo is actually a really good Shinji with a different take on the character. All the other leads are very strong as well, I love the new Gendo. The script is a lot clearer but is generally still quite effective too, despite the fact that I do agree with a lot of the specific complaints levied at it.

What I really would have liked to see is the old leads with the new supporting cast, or the Rebuild cast redub the series. But I think after the initial shock wears off the Netflix dub is definitely great in its own right, and I am definitely seeing a lot more positivity as time goes on.

It is a shame there is not an "optimal" way to watch the show but Netflix is overall the best, especially if you are a new viewer.
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LapisLazuli
07/19/19 8:06:29 PM
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I am inclined to disagree with your assessment of the quality, but this will always be a matter of taste. There are just too many things I can't get over that I disagree with, too much behind the scenes medeling. Again, the voice cast in general is not the issue for me, it's the directing decisions. There are plenty of issues I take, but there was never a chance I was going to be on board with a director who actively chose to keep the English dialogue as "Third Children" to begin with, forget his obviously and provable false claim that he was doing so because he prefers direct literal transactions, which is easily disproven by points where he went interpretive when it suited his agenda.

I am also heavily against a majority of how Netflix has treated anime in general over the last couple of years and think it's a net negative, so this absolutely flavors my view. They came out swinging with Devilman, and it's just been a rapid decent since then both in the quality of originals and the "Netflix Jail" impact it's had on the simulcast industry, resulting in many, many shows completely failing to reach an audience as a direct result of their business model. Even with Evangelion, we will likely never receive a home release of this series ever again because of their licensing, something I've desired for over a decade.

Oh, uh.

#GiantBomb?
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ninkendo
07/19/19 10:21:45 PM
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Ben and Dan are going to be doing a feature where they play Mario maker stages from the giant bomb community so I submitted my level

https://www.giantbomb.com/forums/general-discussion-30/get-on-my-level-1869696/
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GANON1025
07/20/19 5:52:18 PM
#108:


The Lets Sing quick look is AMAZING
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Lightning Strikes
07/20/19 8:06:08 PM
#109:


LapisLazuli posted...
I am inclined to disagree with your assessment of the quality, but this will always be a matter of taste. There are just too many things I can't get over that I disagree with, too much behind the scenes medeling. Again, the voice cast in general is not the issue for me, it's the directing decisions. There are plenty of issues I take, but there was never a chance I was going to be on board with a director who actively chose to keep the English dialogue as "Third Children" to begin with, forget his obviously and provable false claim that he was doing so because he prefers direct literal transactions, which is easily disproven by points where he went interpretive when it suited his agenda.

I am also heavily against a majority of how Netflix has treated anime in general over the last couple of years and think it's a net negative, so this absolutely flavors my view. They came out swinging with Devilman, and it's just been a rapid decent since then both in the quality of originals and the "Netflix Jail" impact it's had on the simulcast industry, resulting in many, many shows completely failing to reach an audience as a direct result of their business model. Even with Evangelion, we will likely never receive a home release of this series ever again because of their licensing, something I've desired for over a decade.

Oh, uh.

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Well I won't get too into it because like you say, Giant Bomb, but there is an important point to clear up: you are conflating two different people. The guy you are talking about isn't the director, he is the translator. The director is Carrie Keranen who plays Misato, and I don't really see any issues with direction. A few choices that were better in the original but I can't think of any instances of poor direction, can you point some out? Seems like your issue is with the script.
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LapisLazuli
07/20/19 8:17:45 PM
#110:


It is with the script, so I'm probably just wording that poorly. In terms of the direction, my issue would lie with pronunciation choices and inconsistency, but that's not the primary issue.
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ninkendo
07/22/19 1:38:43 PM
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WazzupGenius00
07/22/19 1:42:51 PM
#112:


Surprising nobody, with all the house renovation talk over the past several months
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MoogleKupo141
07/22/19 1:54:27 PM
#113:


omg
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The Mana Sword
07/22/19 1:56:45 PM
#114:


I was surprised

Glad I didnt spoil myself by not listening to the Bombcast for the past 6 months
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ninkendo
07/22/19 1:57:35 PM
#115:


I never made the correlation between the two

Jeff is pretty good about keeping certain details of his life secret until they happen
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WazzupGenius00
07/22/19 2:07:03 PM
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It was really obvious the time Jeff was talking about how they are getting a bathtub which they didnt have before and Jason said yeah youre gonna need one of those
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GANON1025
07/29/19 9:36:22 PM
#117:


I'm glad Vinny is embracing the absurdity of Bloodstained and is starting to really like it.
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Epyo
07/29/19 10:19:56 PM
#118:


yeahhhh he's enjoying that game for the right reasons now, the playfulness
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WazzupGenius00
07/31/19 2:04:40 AM
#119:


Lightning Strikes posted...
It is only two episodes and much shorter, but Dan's Evangelion podcast is the much better listen. It addresses the themes and the characters far better than the Waypoint podcast, which is a bit misjudged in its focus and reading sometimes, and shockingly ignores a lot of the themes. Despite a majority being on board with the show, Austin seems more interested in criticising than analysing. Which is fine if you're after that but it seems hypercritical and like it's leaving a lot on the table.

Boy does Dan and Bianca's latest episode throw this entirely out the window
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Lightning Strikes
07/31/19 11:32:14 AM
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Hahaha yeah a little bit. I actually found it really fascinating to listen to. Bianca is a pretty good representation of the nave tv audience encountering that ending without the context of the movie, and Dan was shockingly ok with it. But of course Kojima's number one fan would be!

Also Drew was on the last bombcast and that was rad.
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DeepsPraw
08/04/19 2:37:58 AM
#121:


Vinny's anti-google-search rant on the RE4 stream was just absurd.

That whole stream was weird. Lots of unwarrented aggression. It's a good thing Dan has thick skin, since his co-workers are constantly jumping down his throat any chance they can get.

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The Mana Sword
08/04/19 9:21:10 AM
#122:


The Big Game was very exciting this year.
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ChaosTonyV4
08/04/19 3:25:19 PM
#123:


Abby likes butt stuff on the weekends
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Epyo
08/04/19 5:18:07 PM
#124:


Yeah they are really mean to Dan. Everyone has stuff they don't know, Dan's just willing to ask.

That being said, that RE4 stream was hilarious. I loved Vinny's rant about not googling during stream.
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ninkendo
08/04/19 5:19:33 PM
#125:


Was Madden 20 the first time Vinny has beaten Alex in a sports game
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SgtSphynx
08/04/19 5:40:43 PM
#126:


If it isn't, it has been a long time
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DeepsPraw
08/04/19 6:04:35 PM
#127:


the silica gel section was especially bad. paraphrasing here

someone: *mentions silica gel*

Dan: hey, did you know silica gel is actually non-toxic?

everyone: JESUS FUCKING CHRIST DAN WHY ARE YOU EATING SILICA GEL? DON'T YOU KNOW THAT SHIT WILL KILL YOU INSTANTLY? YOU ARE LITERALLY GETTING PEOPLE KILLED TALKING LIKE THAT

CUT HIS MIC! CUT HIS MIC!

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hockeydude15
08/05/19 9:56:00 AM
#128:


DeepsPraw posted...
That whole stream was weird. Lots of unwarrented aggression. It's a good thing Dan has thick skin, since his co-workers are constantly jumping down his throat any chance they can get.

I would consider it an equal payback for all the shit he gives them during anything cooperative based.

Also just watched fridays UPF and boy, Jeff being gone really shows off how much GB West is carried by him. I mean it's usually just 2nd screen fodder for me but literally the only thing i even remembering happening is the top 10 which kinda has been the only good content in it for the past couple weeks.
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ChaosTonyV4
08/05/19 11:41:59 AM
#129:


Brad holds his own in solo content or content he's leading, but he lets Ben (and Rorie) really carry the conversation, and they're just not Jeff.
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DeepsPraw
08/05/19 11:44:51 AM
#130:


Rorie can carry all the conversations he wants, as far as I'm concerned. Love that dude and his antics

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Lightning Strikes
08/05/19 5:33:51 PM
#131:


Rorie is hilarious but I think best in measured doses...
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Lightning Strikes
08/10/19 5:33:12 AM
#132:


Last night's playdate was pretth excellent, check that out.
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GANON1025
08/10/19 8:55:03 PM
#133:


Finally watched the last Vinnyvania. This series is getting better and better!

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_Harmonica_
08/14/19 3:29:29 PM
#134:


congrats for getting your level chosen SHINE
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DeepsPraw
08/14/19 3:43:37 PM
#135:


shine you're lucky they picked it, considering you broke the rules by not have the GB logo in coins

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ninkendo
08/14/19 4:11:26 PM
#136:


They played my stage on the newest episode of Get On My Level
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ninkendo
08/14/19 4:27:45 PM
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WazzupGenius00
08/14/19 4:44:57 PM
#139:


Dan not knowing where butter comes from broke the stream
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ninkendo
08/14/19 7:16:25 PM
#140:


And for those wondering about the name the course is based on the path a Blood Agar takes on the Kiestra which is a giant microbiology robot in the lab I work in. From the stackers at the beginning all the way to the incubator at the end

That second area the coins spell KIESTRA STATE
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ninkendo
08/14/19 8:05:22 PM
#141:


WazzupGenius00 posted...
Dan not knowing where butter comes from broke the stream

https://twitter.com/giantbomb/status/1161737335542693888?s=19
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ChaosTonyV4
08/14/19 9:42:48 PM
#142:


https://twitter.com/tole_cover/status/1075555831540826112?s=20
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GANON1025
08/14/19 11:39:07 PM
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ninkendo
08/16/19 2:20:27 PM
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The Mana Sword
08/16/19 2:51:38 PM
#145:


Alex was smart to bail out of that one
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DeepsPraw
08/16/19 3:06:53 PM
#146:


hmmm might have to re-up my premium for that

mahardy instead of alex is a great thing, too

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beavis666x2
08/16/19 3:07:57 PM
#147:


The worst Donkey Kong game and maybe the worst first-party game on the Nintendo 64.
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WazzupGenius00
08/16/19 3:42:06 PM
#148:


I will not stand for Vinny and Alex disparaging Taitos arcade masterpiece Bubble Bobble
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SgtSphynx
08/16/19 5:20:53 PM
#149:


Skateboard deck up for preorder. Looks pretyy nice too. Alex helped design the graphic.
https://store.giantbomb.com/products/giant-bomb-skateboard-deck
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SgtSphynx
08/16/19 8:04:02 PM
#150:


GB Premium is going on sale on Monday
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GANON1025
08/20/19 11:36:53 PM
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