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ScareChan
05/12/19 8:39:19 PM
#1:


Also where will Zion go? We find out this week!
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ShatteredElysium
05/12/19 8:50:15 PM
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Hopefully not one of the tanking teams because tanking is fucking terrible. They should have a tournament between lotto teams for draft position
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ScareChan
05/12/19 8:52:18 PM
#3:


I get that but its also counter productive. Take last year's Nuggets for example. They missed the playoffs by one game, were a 2 seed this year. They would have crushed a lottery tournament

on the other hand a team that was just, well, bad like the kings or the suns would lose early and get stuck with a late round lotto pick
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WarThaNemesis2
05/12/19 8:58:57 PM
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the only way to eliminate tanking is to make rookies free agents
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davidponte
05/12/19 9:08:23 PM
#5:


Kawhi is a god
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Nrrr
05/12/19 9:13:15 PM
#6:


I really don't think tanking is a serious problem, and most measures people bring up to address it make the problem worse.
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WarThaNemesis2
05/12/19 9:16:29 PM
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Nrrr posted...
I really don't think tanking is a serious problem, and most measures people bring up to address it make the problem worse.


I don't either, doing things to make sure you can get the best players is an inherent part of being a GM. If you don't want anyone to do anything ever to put themselves in the best position to get the best players from the draft, getting rid of the draft is the solution. Anything else is half-assing it.
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LOLIAmAnAlt
05/12/19 9:22:18 PM
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3 of the worst possessions I've ever seen. In a row nonethelessless.
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ninkendo
05/12/19 9:22:51 PM
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Dr_Football
05/12/19 9:25:57 PM
#10:


this is some really bad basketball
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davidponte
05/12/19 9:31:23 PM
#11:


You cant miss that FT
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ScareChan
05/12/19 9:32:32 PM
#12:


JIMMY BUCKETS

oh man give me OT
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Menji
05/12/19 9:33:29 PM
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LOLIAmAnAlt
05/12/19 9:33:36 PM
#14:


That was stupid
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davidponte
05/12/19 9:33:37 PM
#15:


NEVER A FUCKING DOUBT

GET FUCKED PHILLY

FUCK YOU EMBIId
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ScareChan
05/12/19 9:34:20 PM
#16:


Oh my god that finish was incredible
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ninkendo
05/12/19 9:35:17 PM
#17:


ScareChan posted...
Kawhii bought into being kobe and he's stumbling


He heard you.
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Nelson_Mandela
05/12/19 9:35:22 PM
#18:


Oh my God

That was out of a movie
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ShatteredElysium
05/12/19 9:35:22 PM
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Tanking is an issue for me because you should never ever incentivize losing. I don't care how shit your team is, you shouldn't ever be trying to lose more than win.

You know what happens if you are shit in European sports? There's negative consequences. In American sports they reward you and it's a joke
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TheRock1525
05/12/19 9:37:20 PM
#20:


Problem with tanking is that stuff like the lottery system only makes it worse. "Oh we didn't get the top pick despite having the worst record? Guess we gotta do it again next season."
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davidponte
05/12/19 9:38:07 PM
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https://twitter.com/Sid_Seixeiro/status/1127749239608684544?s=19
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ShatteredElysium
05/12/19 9:40:07 PM
#22:


I'd be perfectly fine with flat odds across the board for lotto teams so at least bad teams don't have a reason to lose
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TheRock1525
05/12/19 9:41:59 PM
#23:


ShatteredElysium posted...
I'd be perfectly fine with flat odds across the board for lotto teams so at least bad teams don't have a reason to lose


The whole point of "The Process" is to throw as many darts at the board as you can. If you make the darts less accurate, teams will just opt to go after more darts.
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Whiskey_Nick
05/12/19 9:42:39 PM
#24:


so close to Raps vs Blazers
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davidponte
05/12/19 9:43:08 PM
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https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1127750754356404229?s=19

Love to see it
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ScareChan
05/12/19 9:43:13 PM
#26:


ninkendo posted...
ScareChan posted...
Kawhii bought into being kobe and he's stumbling


He heard you.


good
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davidponte
05/12/19 10:29:02 PM
#27:


Drake wore Sixers shorts tonight.

The curse is undefeated.
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burritosatan
05/12/19 10:37:48 PM
#28:


davidponte posted...
Drake wore Sixers shorts tonight.

The curse is undefeated.


Get him to wear a Bruins Jersey
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ScareChan
05/12/19 10:39:25 PM
#29:


am I nuts or did the TNT crew not touch on Embiid crying at all

I only wanted to watch to get a Shaq reaction, expected him to have a message for him
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TheRock1525
05/12/19 10:41:47 PM
#30:


ScareChan posted...
am I nuts or did the TNT crew not touch on Embiid crying at all

I only wanted to watch to get a Shaq reaction, expected him to have a message for him


They did have Shaq and Charles say there's nothing wrong with crying. "Everyone who's lost a big game has cried" I think Barkley said.
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burritosatan
05/12/19 10:42:10 PM
#31:


Also first ever game winning buzzer beater in game 7
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davidponte
05/12/19 10:47:33 PM
#32:


burritosatan posted...
davidponte posted...
Drake wore Sixers shorts tonight.

The curse is undefeated.


Get him to wear a Bruins Jersey


:(
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ScareChan
05/12/19 10:50:49 PM
#33:


Calling my shot now

IF Embiid is healthy

this is feuling an MVP campaign next season

the biggest clowns have the biggest hearts. This dude is basketball
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MZero11
05/12/19 10:52:12 PM
#34:


burritosatan posted...
Also first ever game winning buzzer beater in game 7


Dame hit one a few years ago I'm pretty sure

Edit: oh I guess it was game 6
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ShatteredElysium
05/12/19 11:03:23 PM
#35:


TheRock1525 posted...
ShatteredElysium posted...
I'd be perfectly fine with flat odds across the board for lotto teams so at least bad teams don't have a reason to lose


The whole point of "The Process" is to throw as many darts at the board as you can. If you make the darts less accurate, teams will just opt to go after more darts.


Will be harder to acquire those darts if odds are flat across the board. Nobody is given up a lotto pick without massive protections if the odds are flat. So you would be limited to just the one dart that is the same whether you are 15-77 or like 40-42. So may as well play to win
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Dr_Football
05/12/19 11:12:42 PM
#36:


ScareChan posted...
Calling my shot now

IF Embiid is healthy

this is feuling an MVP campaign next season

the biggest clowns have the biggest hearts. This dude is basketball


i would put decent money on Embiid never playing more than 70 regular season games in a season ever
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WarThaNemesis2
05/12/19 11:19:19 PM
#37:


ShatteredElysium posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
ShatteredElysium posted...
I'd be perfectly fine with flat odds across the board for lotto teams so at least bad teams don't have a reason to lose


The whole point of "The Process" is to throw as many darts at the board as you can. If you make the darts less accurate, teams will just opt to go after more darts.


Will be harder to acquire those darts if odds are flat across the board. Nobody is given up a lotto pick without massive protections if the odds are flat. So you would be limited to just the one dart that is the same whether you are 15-77 or like 40-42. So may as well play to win


The Nets gave up multiple unprotected draft picks for a package built around Kevin Garnett with like one year left in his career.
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davidponte
05/12/19 11:28:16 PM
#38:


WarThaNemesis2 posted...
The Nets


Well see there's your problem
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WarThaNemesis2
05/12/19 11:33:56 PM
#39:


davidponte posted...
WarThaNemesis2 posted...
The Nets


Well see there's your problem


I'm just saying that basing a situation on 'nobody would be stupid enough to do this' is a disaster waiting to happen, even in the case of multi-billion dollar companies where doing literally nothing would be better.
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MZero11
05/13/19 3:11:04 AM
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4 teams left in the playoffs and none of them tanked (well arguably the Bucks did a while back but none of their core came from that)

Until tanking actually leads to success I wouldn't really worry about it. The Sixers are the one success story among all the failures and they can't get out of the 2nd round
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ScareChan
05/13/19 3:58:51 AM
#41:


Drake wore philly gear today

Drake curse lives on
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ShatteredElysium
05/13/19 6:45:39 AM
#42:


My problem with tanking isn't whether it works or not, it's that you are incentivizing losing which is absolute horseshit.
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ShatteredElysium
05/13/19 9:13:41 AM
#43:


ScareChan posted...
I get that but its also counter productive. Take last year's Nuggets for example. They missed the playoffs by one game, were a 2 seed this year. They would have crushed a lottery tournament

on the other hand a team that was just, well, bad like the kings or the suns would lose early and get stuck with a late round lotto pick


For the record I'd have been fine with this. They always say the worst place to be in the NBA is in the middle where you are not good enough to compete but not bad enough to get the high lotto picks. I'd much rather those high lotto picks go to teams actively trying to win rather than those who aren't trying to win.

I mean really the Nuggets should be rewarded for always trying to win (36 > 30 > 33 > 40 > 46 > 54 wins) when compared to the 76ers who actively tried to lose over that same period. If the 76ers actually tried in those years they probably end up with win totals in the high 20s low 30s so why should they be rewarded for not trying?

It's not like I'm a fan of a team who would benefit from this either. Orlando was always a high lotto team from being bad rather than actively tanking.

Get better by winning not through a charity culture that encourages a losing mentality. Because then you get teams like Orlando who even when they do get good players, they struggle to step up because the locker room mentality is so ingrained with losing that it infects the lotto picks and they never learn to play hard and win because losing is seen as acceptable. I feel it's far more counter productive to reward losing than winning.
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KCF0107
05/13/19 12:20:55 PM
#44:


John Beilein leaving the Wolverines to coach the Cavs. Who saw that coming?

Is this the first NCAA to NBA jump since Hoiberg?
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ShatteredElysium
05/13/19 12:30:31 PM
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I saw a lot of wows about it on Twitter but I don't know enough about college basketball to know if they were good or bad wows.
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ninkendo
05/13/19 12:36:19 PM
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Nrrr
05/14/19 8:21:18 PM
#47:


Sending my energy to the suns spirit bomb style
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TheRock1525
05/14/19 8:24:55 PM
#48:


Josh Jackson sure as hell ain't.
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Nelson_Mandela
05/14/19 8:35:34 PM
#49:


If the Knicks get the #1 pick I am going to literally explode

If the Knicks don't get the #1 pick I am going to literally explode
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davidponte
05/14/19 8:37:19 PM
#50:


The Knicks are about to Knicks and trade away the first overall pick once they get it, aren't they?
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