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Steiner 05/09/19 1:54:51 AM #1:	Vs. Psycho Clown --- Advokaiser makes me feel eternal. All this pain is an illusion. <cite>Steiner posted [p:921656119] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote>Vs. Psycho Clown</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScareChan 05/09/19 2:30:37 AM #2:	Vs mwc --- Lets Smash- Switch friend code SW-5264-0547-1806 PSN TehScurr <cite>ScareChan posted [p:921656797] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote>Vs mwc</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 05/09/19 2:39:04 AM #3:	vs. THE Finest Kona Reeves --- "It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:921656970] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote>vs. THE Finest Kona Reeves</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Steiner 05/09/19 12:03:23 PM #4:	https://twitter.com/TheWrap/status/1126512040699260928?s=19 --- Advokaiser makes me feel eternal. All this pain is an illusion. <cite>Steiner posted [p:921668726] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/TheWrap/status/1126512040699260928?s=19</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NBIceman 05/09/19 12:05:06 PM #5:	Steiner posted... https://twitter.com/TheWrap/status/1126512040699260928?s=19 Making this post so I can remember to post my picture of MWC claiming they weren't getting a TV deal when I get home in a bit. --- https://imgur.com/UYamul2 Spurs - Yankees - Eagles - Golden Knights <cite>NBIceman posted [p:921668791] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote><cite>Steiner posted...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/TheWrap/status/1126512040699260928?s=19</quote> Making this post so I can remember to post my picture of MWC claiming they weren't getting a TV deal when I get home in a bit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Steiner 05/09/19 12:15:24 PM #6:	Pump the brakes there iceman ; 1. No financial details being released at that point 2. https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1126517719040446465?s=19 --- Advokaiser makes me feel eternal. All this pain is an illusion. <cite>Steiner posted [p:921669245] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote>Pump the brakes there iceman ; 1. No financial details being released at that point 2. https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1126517719040446465?s=19</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 05/09/19 1:02:35 PM #7:	Batista was on What We Do in the Shadows this week, if anyone enjoys that show/movie. --- "It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:921671326] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote>Batista was on What We Do in the Shadows this week, if anyone enjoys that show/movie.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/09/19 1:24:06 PM #8:	https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1126521552097480704?s=21 Reading @iamjohnpollocks WWE Business Partner Summit recap (happened Mania weekend, vid just went online) & geez these quotes are rich. George Barrios: The women are moonsaulting right over that glass ceiling 1. Give it a few days. 2. ITS YOUR OWN GLASS CEILING. THATS BAD. If you moonsault over a glass ceiling, wouldnt you land flat on your face? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:921672244] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1126521552097480704?s=21 <quote>Reading @iamjohnpollocks WWE Business Partner Summit recap (happened Mania weekend, vid just went online) & geez these quotes are rich. George Barrios: The women are moonsaulting right over that glass ceiling 1. Give it a few days. 2. ITS YOUR OWN GLASS CEILING. THATS BAD.</quote> If you moonsault over a glass ceiling, wouldnt you land flat on your face?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/09/19 5:20:11 PM #9:	Dave said the NBA and NHL 2018-2019 regular season ratings are out. NBA viewership overall was down 4%, NHL viewership overall was down 1%. Thats not playoffs, thats the mundane week to week stuff more comparable to WWE. Which is down 29% year to year. So there goes that excuse --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:921682238] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote>Dave said the NBA and NHL 2018-2019 regular season ratings are out. NBA viewership overall was down 4%, NHL viewership overall was down 1%. Thats not playoffs, thats the mundane week to week stuff more comparable to WWE. Which is down 29% year to year. So there goes that excuse</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/09/19 5:27:17 PM #10:	Its funny to me that the announcers cant figure out what would happen if the Usos held a title from another brand I dont know what brand Becky Lynch is supposed to be on now but obviously she holds one title from a brand shes not on, and shes been allowed on both shows even before the Wild Card --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:921682526] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote>Its funny to me that the announcers cant figure out what would happen if the Usos held a title from another brand I dont know what brand Becky Lynch is supposed to be on now but obviously she holds one title from a brand shes not on, and shes been allowed on both shows even before the Wild Card</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/09/19 5:55:49 PM #11:	I want to weigh in on the SD Tag Titles debate I have no issue at all with a heel GM handing the vacant titles to a heel team even with no resume. Bryan is credible enough to carry it. What I DO have an issue with is then fighting a legendary team like the Usos, who WERE the Champions a month ago, for the titles and beating them clean, basically. It proves Shane was right! WWE HEELS NEED TO CHEAT BUT THEY DONT --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:921683722] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote>I want to weigh in on the SD Tag Titles debate I have no issue at all with a heel GM handing the vacant titles to a heel team even with no resume. Bryan is credible enough to carry it. What I DO have an issue with is then fighting a legendary team like the Usos, who WERE the Champions a month ago, for the titles and beating them clean, basically. It proves Shane was right! WWE HEELS NEED TO CHEAT BUT THEY DONT</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 05/09/19 6:30:43 PM #12:	I feel like having the Eco Warriors cheat to win leaves too much of a hanging spectre over their win and makes it feel like "shouldn't the Usos be more pissed about getting cheated out of the titles and want to try and get them again?" I much prefer the finality of a clean win if the Usos aren't going to be on Smackdown every week. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:921685351] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote>I feel like having the Eco Warriors cheat to win leaves too much of a hanging spectre over their win and makes it feel like "shouldn't the Usos be more pissed about getting cheated out of the titles and want to try and get them again?" I much prefer the finality of a clean win if the Usos aren't going to be on Smackdown every week.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 05/09/19 6:44:27 PM #13:	Bryan is a main eventer He could've been teamed with a stick and he would've won because he's not a tag team Perfect WWE logic --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:921686043] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote>Bryan is a main eventer He could've been teamed with a stick and he would've won because he's not a tag team Perfect WWE logic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 05/09/19 6:52:05 PM #14:	Hey don't call Kane a stick. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:921686437] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote>Hey don't call Kane a stick.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/09/19 7:00:21 PM #15:	TheRock1525 posted... I feel like having the Eco Warriors cheat to win leaves too much of a hanging spectre over their win and makes it feel like "shouldn't the Usos be more pissed about getting cheated out of the titles and want to try and get them again?" I much prefer the finality of a clean win if the Usos aren't going to be on Smackdown every week. Its more a general frustration with the lack of cheap wins in general Baron Corbin doesnt cheat Sami Zayn doesnt cheat These are heels that should cheat, not just be better than most of the faces Like, Angle CHOSE Corbin to fight at WM, lost clean, and thats supposed to make us mad at Corbin --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:921686845] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>I feel like having the Eco Warriors cheat to win leaves too much of a hanging spectre over their win and makes it feel like "shouldn't the Usos be more pissed about getting cheated out of the titles and want to try and get them again?" I much prefer the finality of a clean win if the Usos aren't going to be on Smackdown every week.</quote> Its more a general frustration with the lack of cheap wins in general Baron Corbin doesnt cheat Sami Zayn doesnt cheat These are heels that should cheat, not just be better than most of the faces Like, Angle CHOSE Corbin to fight at WM, lost clean, and thats supposed to make us mad at Corbin</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 05/09/19 7:23:57 PM #16:	To be fair, Corbin's character legit makes sense for not cheating, since his gig is that he fully believes his own hype and thus it'd be believable that he feels he doesn't have to. His character is being written as one that actually is fairly good but is a total asshole, and so you should be excited when somebody finally takes him down a peg. The issue is they've written about 10% of that and the rest is convoluted garbage. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:921687885] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote>To be fair, Corbin's character legit makes sense for not cheating, since his gig is that he fully believes his own hype and thus it'd be believable that he feels he doesn't have to. His character is being written as one that actually is fairly good but is a total asshole, and so you should be excited when somebody finally takes him down a peg. The issue is they've written about 10% of that and the rest is convoluted garbage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/09/19 7:33:18 PM #17:	Every heel should always cheat or take some sort of technically legal shortcut like Andrade using Zelina as a shield (which is VERY much appreciated in this WWE landscape BTW). Monster heels in squash matches are the ONE exception, but even someone like Brock should take shortcuts against legit guys. If you dont want to do that, dont expect us to boo people consistently --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:921688277] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote>Every heel should always cheat or take some sort of technically legal shortcut like Andrade using Zelina as a shield (which is VERY much appreciated in this WWE landscape BTW). Monster heels in squash matches are the ONE exception, but even someone like Brock should take shortcuts against legit guys. If you dont want to do that, dont expect us to boo people consistently</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 05/09/19 7:41:38 PM #18:	TheRock1525 posted... Hey don't call Kane a stick. In Impact, don't call Kenny and cane. --- "It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:921688664] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>Hey don't call Kane a stick.</quote> In Impact, don't call Kenny and cane.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eddv 05/09/19 9:24:12 PM #19:	Yeah I have to agree. As of right now the heels are just babyfaces who are jerks. --- Board 8's Voice of Reason https://imgur.com/chXIw06 <cite>Eddv posted [p:921693070] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote>Yeah I have to agree. As of right now the heels are just babyfaces who are jerks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 05/09/19 9:24:21 PM #20:	StealThisSheen posted... To be fair, Corbin's character legit I agree, all hail Big Banter. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:921693074] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote>To be fair, Corbin's character legit </quote> I agree, all hail Big Banter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 05/09/19 9:47:00 PM #21:	OK, so my neighbor came over and shared some stories, and apparently he used to be a jobber for Jim Crockett promotions under the name "The Black Russian." I'm calling on @Jakyl25 to confirm if there was anyone that teamed up with Ivan Koloff by this name back in the 80's. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:921693986] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote>OK, so my neighbor came over and shared some stories, and apparently he used to be a jobber for Jim Crockett promotions under the name "The Black Russian." I'm calling on @Jakyl25 to confirm if there was anyone that teamed up with Ivan Koloff by this name back in the 80's.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NBIceman 05/09/19 11:24:24 PM #22:	Jakyl25 posted... Every heel should always cheat or take some sort of technically legal shortcut like Andrade using Zelina as a shield (which is VERY much appreciated in this WWE landscape BTW). Monster heels in squash matches are the ONE exception, but even someone like Brock should take shortcuts against legit guys. If you dont want to do that, dont expect us to boo people consistently On the other hand, if you do that, don't expect anyone in the crowd to ever take any heels seriously. --- https://imgur.com/UYamul2 Spurs - Yankees - Eagles - Golden Knights <cite>NBIceman posted [p:921697705] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>Every heel should always cheat or take some sort of technically legal shortcut like Andrade using Zelina as a shield (which is VERY much appreciated in this WWE landscape BTW). Monster heels in squash matches are the ONE exception, but even someone like Brock should take shortcuts against legit guys. If you dont want to do that, dont expect us to boo people consistently</quote> On the other hand, if you do that, don't expect anyone in the crowd to ever take any heels seriously.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 05/09/19 11:33:23 PM #23:	That's my issue. I agree most heels should cheat, but you gotta have some who are just regular threats in the ring but total dickwads, or else there'd be no reason to take anyone seriously. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:921697978] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote>That's my issue. I agree most heels should cheat, but you gotta have some who are just regular threats in the ring but total dickwads, or else there'd be no reason to take anyone seriously.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eddv 05/09/19 11:34:56 PM #24:	NBIceman posted... Jakyl25 posted... Every heel should always cheat or take some sort of technically legal shortcut like Andrade using Zelina as a shield (which is VERY much appreciated in this WWE landscape BTW). Monster heels in squash matches are the ONE exception, but even someone like Brock should take shortcuts against legit guys. If you dont want to do that, dont expect us to boo people consistently On the other hand, if you do that, don't expect anyone in the crowd to ever take any heels seriously. Well. I actually agree with both of you because you're discussing different things. Jakyl is saying if you're going to run things the way WWE does with a very stylized new gen style presentation that you need well defined heels and babyfaces so that the stories WWE tells make sense. The story here with the Eco Warriors is that they're being unfairly given opportunities they don't deserve and that they cheated the Usos and someone needs to stop them. They're going to tell that story whether Bryan cheats or not so he may as well cheat. --- Board 8's Voice of Reason https://imgur.com/chXIw06 <cite>Eddv posted [p:921698024] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote><cite>NBIceman posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>Every heel should always cheat or take some sort of technically legal shortcut like Andrade using Zelina as a shield (which is VERY much appreciated in this WWE landscape BTW). Monster heels in squash matches are the ONE exception, but even someone like Brock should take shortcuts against legit guys. If you dont want to do that, dont expect us to boo people consistently</quote> On the other hand, if you do that, don't expect anyone in the crowd to ever take any heels seriously.</quote> Well. I actually agree with both of you because you're discussing different things. Jakyl is saying if you're going to run things the way WWE does with a very stylized new gen style presentation that you need well defined heels and babyfaces so that the stories WWE tells make sense. The story here with the Eco Warriors is that they're being unfairly given opportunities they don't deserve and that they cheated the Usos and someone needs to stop them. They're going to tell that story whether Bryan cheats or not so he may as well cheat.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 05/09/19 11:37:33 PM #25:	Like, I legitimately think 10% of Corbin is written well. He's an absolute dickwad that is super easy to boo on attitude alone. And he stacks the odds in his favor when he can, by bringing help or giving himself lopsided matches when he was GM, etc. But when he's on his own, he buys into his own hype enough that he thinks he can win without cheating, and does so just enough to be a credible threat that you want to see somebody beat to shut him up. It's a good base. Yeah, most of the other heels should absolutely cheat, but a few Corbins are good to have. The issue is literally everything beyond that base and how WWE is just SO BAD at writing anything coherent. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:921698110] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote>Like, I legitimately think 10% of Corbin is written well. He's an absolute dickwad that is super easy to boo on attitude alone. And he stacks the odds in his favor when he can, by bringing help or giving himself lopsided matches when he was GM, etc. But when he's on his own, he buys into his own hype enough that he thinks he can win without cheating, and does so just enough to be a credible threat that you want to see somebody beat to shut him up. It's a good base. Yeah, most of the other heels should absolutely cheat, but a few Corbins are good to have. The issue is literally everything beyond that base and how WWE is just SO BAD at writing anything coherent.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NBIceman 05/09/19 11:40:22 PM #26:	Eddv posted... NBIceman posted... Jakyl25 posted... Every heel should always cheat or take some sort of technically legal shortcut like Andrade using Zelina as a shield (which is VERY much appreciated in this WWE landscape BTW). Monster heels in squash matches are the ONE exception, but even someone like Brock should take shortcuts against legit guys. If you dont want to do that, dont expect us to boo people consistently On the other hand, if you do that, don't expect anyone in the crowd to ever take any heels seriously. Well. I actually agree with both of you because you're discussing different things. Jakyl is saying if you're going to run things the way WWE does with a very stylized new gen style presentation that you need well defined heels and babyfaces so that the stories WWE tells make sense. The story here with the Eco Warriors is that they're being unfairly given opportunities they don't deserve and that they cheated the Usos and someone needs to stop them. They're going to tell that story whether Bryan cheats or not so he may as well cheat. Okay yeah, that makes sense. I guess since I'm the "get rid of the heel/face dynamic entirely" guy I don't really have much to contribute to this conversation then. --- https://imgur.com/UYamul2 Spurs - Yankees - Eagles - Golden Knights <cite>NBIceman posted [p:921698198] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote><cite>Eddv posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NBIceman posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>Every heel should always cheat or take some sort of technically legal shortcut like Andrade using Zelina as a shield (which is VERY much appreciated in this WWE landscape BTW). Monster heels in squash matches are the ONE exception, but even someone like Brock should take shortcuts against legit guys. If you dont want to do that, dont expect us to boo people consistently</quote> On the other hand, if you do that, don't expect anyone in the crowd to ever take any heels seriously.</quote> Well. I actually agree with both of you because you're discussing different things. Jakyl is saying if you're going to run things the way WWE does with a very stylized new gen style presentation that you need well defined heels and babyfaces so that the stories WWE tells make sense. The story here with the Eco Warriors is that they're being unfairly given opportunities they don't deserve and that they cheated the Usos and someone needs to stop them. They're going to tell that story whether Bryan cheats or not so he may as well cheat.</quote> Okay yeah, that makes sense. I guess since I'm the "get rid of the heel/face dynamic entirely" guy I don't really have much to contribute to this conversation then.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 05/09/19 11:45:55 PM #27:	As far as WWE's current style goes, to go back to the Angle example, for instance, I believe that COULD have worked. The point was that over time, Corbin egged an aging, broken down man into wanting to shut him up in his last match. He then proceeded to beat said aging, broken down man because... He's an aging, broken down man, and went on to crow about it as if he had beaten Angle in his prime, while continually reminding everybody "Yeah, I didn't let him have his happy ending you all wanted to see" In a competent company, that works. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:921698360] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote>As far as WWE's current style goes, to go back to the Angle example, for instance, I believe that COULD have worked. The point was that over time, Corbin egged an aging, broken down man into wanting to shut him up in his last match. He then proceeded to beat said aging, broken down man because... He's an aging, broken down man, and went on to crow about it as if he had beaten Angle in his prime, while continually reminding everybody "Yeah, I didn't let him have his happy ending you all wanted to see" In a competent company, that works.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScareChan 05/10/19 12:06:12 AM #28:	the fact that Charlotte doesnt do stuff like grab the ropes during a submission is a travesty imo --- Lets Smash- Switch friend code SW-5264-0547-1806 PSN TehScurr <cite>ScareChan posted [p:921698964] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote>the fact that Charlotte doesnt do stuff like grab the ropes during a submission is a travesty imo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 05/10/19 12:22:54 AM #29:	Guys are you ignoring I live next to a former Jim Crockett Promotion jobber? --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:921699418] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote>Guys are you ignoring I live next to a former Jim Crockett Promotion jobber?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScareChan 05/10/19 12:24:22 AM #30:	TheRock1525 posted... Guys are you ignoring I live next to a former Jim Crockett Promotion jobber? I googled couldnt find anything --- Lets Smash- Switch friend code SW-5264-0547-1806 PSN TehScurr <cite>ScareChan posted [p:921699467] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>Guys are you ignoring I live next to a former Jim Crockett Promotion jobber?</quote> I googled couldnt find anything</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/10/19 12:27:00 AM #31:	NBIceman posted... Jakyl25 posted... Every heel should always cheat or take some sort of technically legal shortcut like Andrade using Zelina as a shield (which is VERY much appreciated in this WWE landscape BTW). Monster heels in squash matches are the ONE exception, but even someone like Brock should take shortcuts against legit guys. If you dont want to do that, dont expect us to boo people consistently On the other hand, if you do that, don't expect anyone in the crowd to ever take any heels seriously. I mean, you watch New Japan right? I ASSUME That style of storytelling doesnt need a lot of cheaters, because its entirely based on character dynamics and lore. You can have 75% non-cheaters there. Even then you still have Bullet Club and Suzukigun who cheat just to let you know that THESE are the real fuckwads --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:921699550] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote><cite>NBIceman posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>Every heel should always cheat or take some sort of technically legal shortcut like Andrade using Zelina as a shield (which is VERY much appreciated in this WWE landscape BTW). Monster heels in squash matches are the ONE exception, but even someone like Brock should take shortcuts against legit guys. If you dont want to do that, dont expect us to boo people consistently</quote> On the other hand, if you do that, don't expect anyone in the crowd to ever take any heels seriously.</quote> I mean, you watch New Japan right? I ASSUME That style of storytelling doesnt need a lot of cheaters, because its entirely based on character dynamics and lore. You can have 75% non-cheaters there. Even then you still have Bullet Club and Suzukigun who cheat just to let you know that THESE are the real fuckwads</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/10/19 12:28:52 AM #32:	TheRock1525 posted... OK, so my neighbor came over and shared some stories, and apparently he used to be a jobber for Jim Crockett promotions under the name "The Black Russian." I'm calling on @Jakyl25 to confirm if there was anyone that teamed up with Ivan Koloff by this name back in the 80's. Why would a jobber be teaming with Ivan Koloff --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:921699600] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>OK, so my neighbor came over and shared some stories, and apparently he used to be a jobber for Jim Crockett promotions under the name "The Black Russian." I'm calling on @Jakyl25 to confirm if there was anyone that teamed up with Ivan Koloff by this name back in the 80's.</quote> Why would a jobber be teaming with Ivan Koloff</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 05/10/19 12:29:43 AM #33:	Jakyl25 posted... TheRock1525 posted... OK, so my neighbor came over and shared some stories, and apparently he used to be a jobber for Jim Crockett promotions under the name "The Black Russian." I'm calling on @Jakyl25 to confirm if there was anyone that teamed up with Ivan Koloff by this name back in the 80's. Why would a jobber be teaming with Ivan Koloff He said he also wrestled him too but he mostly worked heel. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:921699638] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>OK, so my neighbor came over and shared some stories, and apparently he used to be a jobber for Jim Crockett promotions under the name "The Black Russian." I'm calling on @Jakyl25 to confirm if there was anyone that teamed up with Ivan Koloff by this name back in the 80's.</quote> Why would a jobber be teaming with Ivan Koloff</quote> He said he also wrestled him too but he mostly worked heel.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NBIceman 05/10/19 12:31:45 AM #34:	Jakyl25 posted... NBIceman posted... Jakyl25 posted... Every heel should always cheat or take some sort of technically legal shortcut like Andrade using Zelina as a shield (which is VERY much appreciated in this WWE landscape BTW). Monster heels in squash matches are the ONE exception, but even someone like Brock should take shortcuts against legit guys. If you dont want to do that, dont expect us to boo people consistently On the other hand, if you do that, don't expect anyone in the crowd to ever take any heels seriously. I mean, you watch New Japan right? I ASSUME That style of storytelling doesnt need a lot of cheaters, because its entirely based on character dynamics and lore. You can have 75% non-cheaters there. Even then you still have Bullet Club and Suzukigun who cheat just to let you know that THESE are the real fuckwads You seem to be agreeing with me but this post has the look of an argument. The part of your post I took issue with was saying that every heel should cheat. --- https://imgur.com/UYamul2 Spurs - Yankees - Eagles - Golden Knights <cite>NBIceman posted [p:921699695] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NBIceman posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>Every heel should always cheat or take some sort of technically legal shortcut like Andrade using Zelina as a shield (which is VERY much appreciated in this WWE landscape BTW). Monster heels in squash matches are the ONE exception, but even someone like Brock should take shortcuts against legit guys. If you dont want to do that, dont expect us to boo people consistently</quote> On the other hand, if you do that, don't expect anyone in the crowd to ever take any heels seriously.</quote> I mean, you watch New Japan right? I ASSUME That style of storytelling doesnt need a lot of cheaters, because its entirely based on character dynamics and lore. You can have 75% non-cheaters there. Even then you still have Bullet Club and Suzukigun who cheat just to let you know that THESE are the real fuckwads</quote> You seem to be agreeing with me but this post has the look of an argument. The part of your post I took issue with was saying that every heel should cheat.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 05/10/19 12:32:11 AM #35:	http://www.prowrestlinghistory.com/indy/uwf/uwfcards.html There's a Black Russian here on a card from 1991 --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:921699710] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote>http://www.prowrestlinghistory.com/indy/uwf/uwfcards.html There's a Black Russian here on a card from 1991</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WarThaNemesis2 05/10/19 1:00:16 AM #36:	StealThisSheen posted... http://www.prowrestlinghistory.com/indy/uwf/uwfcards.html There's a Black Russian here on a card from 1991 i have never been so unhappy that there isn't more UWF Fury Hour --- https://imgur.com/M1heX2g RIP Paul Bearer. Ohhhh nooooo. :( <cite>WarThaNemesis2 posted [p:921700495] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote>http://www.prowrestlinghistory.com/indy/uwf/uwfcards.html There's a Black Russian here on a card from 1991</quote> i have never been so unhappy that there isn't more UWF Fury Hour</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/10/19 1:51:08 AM #37:	NBIceman posted... The part of your post I took issue with was saying that every heel should cheat. In a company like WWE I will settle for most Many A few One? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:921701731] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote><cite>NBIceman posted...</cite> <quote> The part of your post I took issue with was saying that every heel should cheat.</quote> In a company like WWE I will settle for most Many A few One?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/10/19 1:58:05 AM #38:	Also my apologies if I was abrasive today. I am UPSET over unrelated-to-wrestling INTERNET DRAMA and I also need to take my meds --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:921701859] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote>Also my apologies if I was abrasive today. I am UPSET over unrelated-to-wrestling INTERNET DRAMA and I also need to take my meds</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Strife2 05/10/19 2:03:09 AM #39:	I am also dealing with INTERNET DRAMA. Don't know if it's about the same thing. --- "Evening caress, Always yearning, I must confess, The stars aren't burning" Copernicus - Candlemass <cite>Strife2 posted [p:921701977] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote>I am also dealing with INTERNET DRAMA. Don't know if it's about the same thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/10/19 2:09:23 AM #40:	All the ProJared shit? What a scumbag Speaking of heels that cheat! On-topic addendum: Dragon Lee is gonna win BoSJ and choose to defend against Hiromu at Dominion --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:921702098] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote>All the ProJared shit? What a scumbag Speaking of heels that cheat! On-topic addendum: Dragon Lee is gonna win BoSJ and choose to defend against Hiromu at Dominion</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eddv 05/10/19 2:10:41 AM #41:	Dragon Lee is just a discount shelf Jake Lee. --- Board 8's Voice of Reason https://imgur.com/chXIw06 <cite>Eddv posted [p:921702114] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote>Dragon Lee is just a discount shelf Jake Lee.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/10/19 2:11:44 AM #42:	Hey at least Lars Sullivan apologized for his old posts and said he no longer holds those viewpoints. Thats a good thing! Lets hope hes sincere --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:921702131] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote>Hey at least Lars Sullivan apologized for his old posts and said he no longer holds those viewpoints. Thats a good thing! Lets hope hes sincere</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Strife2 05/10/19 2:25:54 AM #43:	Jakyl25 posted... All the ProJared shit? What a scumbag Speaking of heels that cheat! On-topic addendum: Dragon Lee is gonna win BoSJ and choose to defend against Hiromu at Dominion Yep, that's the shit. Watched that guy for over five years, and it got me into content creation (among other people of course). But I liked him so much, I got my parents into watching him a lot whenever I'd visit. oof. --- "Evening caress, Always yearning, I must confess, The stars aren't burning" Copernicus - Candlemass <cite>Strife2 posted [p:921702412] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>All the ProJared shit? What a scumbag Speaking of heels that cheat! On-topic addendum: Dragon Lee is gonna win BoSJ and choose to defend against Hiromu at Dominion</quote> Yep, that's the shit. Watched that guy for over five years, and it got me into content creation (among other people of course). But I liked him so much, I got my parents into watching him a lot whenever I'd visit. oof.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/10/19 2:46:33 AM #44:	Lets hope he didnt groom your parents into sending nudes --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:921702767] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote>Lets hope he didnt groom your parents into sending nudes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Strife2 05/10/19 2:51:35 AM #45:	No, and I only saw his Twitch streams a couple times before going, "too many people, I'm not going to follow a chat this fucking big, he doesn't need my bits or subs." I just stuck to the Youtube LPs. Though, he'll need a hell of a lot more help going forward. Losing 100k subs in 24 hours is the least of his problems. --- "Evening caress, Always yearning, I must confess, The stars aren't burning" Copernicus - Candlemass <cite>Strife2 posted [p:921702840] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote>No, and I only saw his Twitch streams a couple times before going, "too many people, I'm not going to follow a chat this fucking big, he doesn't need my bits or subs." I just stuck to the Youtube LPs. Though, he'll need a hell of a lot more help going forward. Losing 100k subs in 24 hours is the least of his problems.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 05/10/19 2:54:11 AM #46:	Literally losing viewers faster than WWE. Thats an accomplishment! --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:921702879] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote>Literally losing viewers faster than WWE. Thats an accomplishment!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScareChan 05/10/19 3:09:04 AM #47:	Nuptup will never be the same --- Lets Smash- Switch friend code SW-5264-0547-1806 PSN TehScurr <cite>ScareChan posted [p:921703133] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote>Nuptup will never be the same</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NBIceman 05/10/19 3:24:39 AM #48:	I know these things are rarely all about looks and yada yada but Jared really traded down on this one, didn't he? >_> --- https://imgur.com/UYamul2 Spurs - Yankees - Eagles - Golden Knights <cite>NBIceman posted [p:921703372] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote>I know these things are rarely all about looks and yada yada but Jared really traded down on this one, didn't he? >_></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Steiner 05/10/19 3:55:29 AM #50:	So last night in the chat, Scar Ed and I finally got round to watching Miyahara vs. Okabayashi from the A Block finals of champion carnival and I can't stop thinking about it this morning. The closing stretch is one of the best things I've ever seen in wrestling, I was marking out in voice. Going 4 3/4 on it and it's right there with Okada vs White as my moty --- Advokaiser makes me feel eternal. All this pain is an illusion. <cite>Steiner posted [p:921703850] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote>So last night in the chat, Scar Ed and I finally got round to watching Miyahara vs. Okabayashi from the A Block finals of champion carnival and I can't stop thinking about it this morning. The closing stretch is one of the best things I've ever seen in wrestling, I was marking out in voice. Going 4 3/4 on it and it's right there with Okada vs White as my moty</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eddv 05/10/19 6:54:07 AM #51:	Okobayashi turned me into a believer. I had utterly no idea what the deal with Miyahara was and he looks like he would be that sort of flamboyant jobber New Japan likes but he can fucking go. I disagree with Steiner only to say I actually enioyed that MORE than White/Okada and this is my current MotY --- Board 8's Voice of Reason https://imgur.com/chXIw06 <cite>Eddv posted [p:921706479] in All-Purpos... [t:77702749]...</cite> <quote>Okobayashi turned me into a believer. I had utterly no idea what the deal with Miyahara was and he looks like he would be that sort of flamboyant jobber New Japan likes but he can fucking go. I disagree with Steiner only to say I actually enioyed that MORE than White/Okada and this is my current MotY</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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