Board 8 > [BAME] Best Animated Movie Ever 2019 - Bracket and Discussion Topic

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Toy Story 2 is on ABC right now. They're at "When She Loved Me" *gulp*
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As promised, here are the Metacritic user scores, from best to worst (and seven that don't have a Metacritic page):

Your Name - 9.1, 578 votes
Spirited Away - 9.0, 1556 votes
Toy Story - 9.0, 1051 votes

WALL-E - 8.9, 2499 votes
Toy Story 3 - 8.9, 1724 votes
Princess Mononoke - 8.9, 441 votes
The Iron Giant - 8.9, 328 votes
Up - 8.8, 1261 votes
The Incredibles - 8.8, 1051 votes
Shrek - 8.8, 793 votes
Toy Story 2 - 8.8, 680 votes
The Hunchback of Notre Dame - 8.8, 13 votes
The Lion King - 8.8, 632 votes
South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut - 8.8, 358 votes
Inside Out - 8.7, 1974 votes
Zootopia - 8.7, 1502 votes
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse - 8.7, 1193 votes
Finding Nemo - 8.7, 908 votes
How to Train Your Dragon - 8.7, 722 votes
Monsters, Inc. - 8.7, 546 votes
Beauty and the Beast - 8.7, 178 votes
It's Such a Beautiful Day - 8.7, 43 votes
Ratatouille - 8.6, 1623 votes
The Tale of the Princess Kaguya - 8.6, 185 votes
The Emperor's New Groove - 8.6, 183 votes
The Nightmare Before Christmas - 8.6, 116 votes
My Neighbor Totoro - 8.6, 50 votes
Tangled - 8.5, 635 votes
Mulan - 8.5, 222 votes
Lilo & Stitch - 8.5, 175 votes
The Prince of Egypt - 8.5, 133 votes
Aladdin - 8.5, 51 votes
Nausica of the Valley of the Wind - 8.5, 27 votes
Kiki's Delivery Service - 8.5, 24 votes

Wreck-it Ralph - 8.4, 876 votes
Coraline - 8.4, 674 votes
The Lego Movie - 8.3, 1365 votes
Coco - 8.3, 748 votes
Song of the Sea - 8.3, 144 votes
Pinocchio - 8.3, 51 votes
Fantastic Mr. Fox - 8.2, 485 votes
Kubo and the Two Strings - 8.1, 493 votes
A Silent Voice - 8.1, 76 votes
Fantasia - 8.0, 24 votes

Hercules - 7.9, 38 votes
The Jungle Book - 7.9, 22 votes
Alice in Wonderland - 7.9, 18 votes
Moana - 7.8, 695 votes
Dragon Ball Super: Broly - 7.8, 134 votes
The Simpsons Movie - 7.7, 759 votes
Ponyo - 7.7, 290 votes
Pokmon: The First Movie - 7.6, 154 votes (wow, it doesn't have bottom score for once)
The Little Mermaid - 7.6, 33 votes
Robin Hood - 7.6, 19 votes
Frozen - 7.5, 1291 votes

The Road to El Dorado - 7.2, 94 votes
Summer Wars - 7.1, 60 votes

Grave of the Fireflies - N/A, no votes
World of Tomorrow - N/A, no votes
Mary and Max - N/A, no votes
Watership Down - N/A, no votes
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm - N/A, no votes
Akira - N/A, no votes
The Girl Who Leapt Through Time - N/A, no votes
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The bracket according to user Metacritic scores:

Division 1, Round 1:
(1)Spirited Away
(16)Robin Hood

(8)South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut
(9)Pinocchio

(5)Lilo & Stitch
(12)Grave of the Fireflies (unranked)

(4)The Incredibles
(13)The Simpsons Movie

(3)How to Train Your Dragon
(14)World of Tomorrow (unranked)

(6)Aladdin
(11)Inside Out

(7)Toy Story
(10)Dragon Ball Super: Broly

(2)Tangled
(15)Mary and Max (unranked)

Division 1, Round 2:
(1)Spirited Away
(8)South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut

(5)Lilo & Stitch
(4)The Incredibles

(3)How to Train Your Dragon
(11)Inside Out (move votes)

(7)Toy Story
(2)Tangled

Division 1, Round 3:
(1)Spirited Away
(4)The Incredibles

(11)Inside Out
(7)Toy Story

Division 1 Final:
(1)Spirited Away (close match, decided by more votes)
(7)Toy Story

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Division 2, Round 1:
(1)The Lion King
(16)Shrek (More votes; upset of the tournament?)

(8)The Nightmare Before Christmas
(9)Watership Down (unranked)

(5)The Lego Movie
(12)Monsters, Inc.

(4)Princess Mononoke
(13)Alice in Wonderland

(3)Your Name
(14)Batman: Mask of the Phantasm (unranked)

(6)Coraline
(11)Hercules

(7)The Hunchback of Notre Dame
(10)Song of the Sea

(2)The Iron Giant
(15)Finding Nemo

Division 2, Round 2:
(16)Shrek
(8)The Nightmare Before Christmas

(12)Monsters, Inc.
(4)Princess Mononoke

(3)Your Name
(6)Coraline

(7)The Hunchback of Notre Dame
(2)The Iron Giant

Division 2, Round 3:
(16)Shrek
(4)Princess Mononoke

(3)Your Name
(2)The Iron Giant

Division 2 Final:
(4)Princess Mononoke
(3)Your Name

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Division 3, Round 1:
(1)It's Such a Beautiful Day
(16)The Jungle Book

(8)Kiki's Delivery Service
(9)Fantasia

(5)WALL-E
(12)Pokmon: The First Movie

(4)Mulan
(13)Ponyo

(3)Beauty and the Beast
(14)The Prince of Egypt

(6)A Silent Voice
(11)Toy Story 3

(7)Wreck-it Ralph
(10)Kubo and the Two Strings

(2)Akira (unranked)
(15)Ratatouille

Division 3, Round 2:
(1)It's Such a Beautiful Day
(8)Kiki's Delivery Service

(5)WALL-E
(4)Mulan

(3)Beauty and the Beast
(11)Toy Story 3

(7)Wreck-it Ralph
(15)Ratatouille

Division 3, Round 3:
(1)It's Such a Beautiful Day
(5)WALL-E

(11)Toy Story 3
(15)Ratatouille

Division 3 Final:
(5)WALL-E
(11)Toy Story 3
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Division 4, Round 1:
(1)Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
(16)Coco

(8)Frozen
(9)The Tale of the Princess Kaguya

(5)The Emperor's New Groove (Wow, more votes make the difference)
(12)My Neighbor Totoro

(4)The Girl Who Leapt Through Time (unranked)
(13)Nausica of the Valley of the Wind

(3)Zootopia (Biggest score difference in the tournament)
(14)Summer Wars

(6)Fantastic Mr. Fox
(11)Toy Story 2

(7)The Little Mermaid
(10)The Road to El Dorado

(2)Up
(15)Moana

Division 4, Round 2:
(1)Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
(9)The Tale of the Princess Kaguya

(5)The Emperor's New Groove
(13)Nausica of the Valley of the Wind

(3)Zootopia
(11)Toy Story 2

(7)The Little Mermaid
(2)Up

Division 4, Round 3:
(1)Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
(5)The Emperor's New Groove

(11)Toy Story 2
(2)Up (Wins by more votes)

Division 4 Final:
(1)Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
(2)Up (For once we have a 1 vs. 2 division final)

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Semifinals:
(1)Spirited Away
(3)Your Name (Match of the tournament)

(5)WALL-E
(2)Up

Grand Final:
(3)Your Name
(5)WALL-E

Conclusion: You know my name, look up the number.

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Y'know, I'd be totally okay with that Metacritic bracket.
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Day 23 results:
(1) Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse - 29
(8) Frozen - 9

(5) The Emperor's New Groove - 18
(4) The Girl Who Leapt Through Time - 16
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Guess everyone's over Frozen.
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was anyone ever really into frozen to begin with
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Frozen's still good
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ZenOfThunder posted...

was anyone ever really into frozen to begin with

It was quite popular from 2013-15.
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Frozen's results in previous contests:

2016: 10 seed
beat (7) Perfect Blue 19-10
lost to (2) The Iron Giant 18-13

2015: 5 seed
beat (12) Treasure Planet 22-11
beat (4) Lilo & Stitch 41-37 (OT)
lost to (1) The Lion King 32-11

2014: 6 seed
beat (11) Grave of the Fireflies 23-12
lost to (3) Mulan 21-14

...Not bad, but nothing really impressive either. At any rate, we can't say much about Frozen's performance this year without knowing how strong Spider-Verse is.
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Spider verse is absolutely a strong contender, at least for this first year
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Love me some Spider-Verse. One of the most ambitious animated films in a long while. Might still be a bit of post-release hype for it but I can't say there's anything that would definitely deserve to win over it.
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Day 24 results:
(3) Zootopia - 22
(11) Toy Story 2 - 19

(7) The Little Mermaid - 8
(2) Up - 30
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Oh wow I didn't check the topic after voting, was not expecting Zootopia to win that. Very awesome!
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Awesome. Especially the blowout.
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^ Bet that's got you doing the spinaroonie.
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Finally, for some last kicks, here is the list of IMDb user rating scores (ties broken by vote totals, as usual):

Spirited Away - 8.6, 554k votes
The Lion King - 8.5, 830k votes
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse - 8.5, 198k votes
Grave of the Fireflies - 8.5, 195k votes

WALL-E - 8.4, 901k votes
Princess Mononoke - 8.4, 293k votes
Coco - 8.4, 272k votes
Your Name - 8.4, 132k votes
Toy Story - 8.3, 788k votes
Toy Story 3 - 8.3, 678k votes
It's Such a Beautiful Day - 8.3, 9.05k votes
Up - 8.2, 841k votes
Inside Out - 8.2, 532k votes
My Neighbor Totoro - 8.2, 237k votes
A Silent Voice - 8.2, 24.0k votes
Finding Nemo - 8.1, 863k votes
Monsters, Inc. - 8.1, 736k votes
How to Train Your Dragon - 8.1, 608k votes
Mary and Max - 8.1, 150k votes
Akira - 8.1, 139k votes
Nausica of the Valley of the Wind - 8.1, 128k votes
Song of the Sea - 8.1, 43.7k votes
World of Tomorrow - 8.1, 7.91k votes
The Incredibles - 8.0, 599k votes
Rataouille - 8.0, 576k votes
Beauty and the Beast - 8.0, 388k votes
Zootopia - 8.0, 381k votes
Aladdin - 8.0, 317k votes
The Nightmare Before Christmas - 8.0, 268k votes
The Iron Giant - 8.0, 156k votes
The Tale of the Princess Kaguya - 8.0, 28.9k votes
Dragon Ball Super: Broly - 8.0, 15.8k votes

Shrek - 7.9, 560k votes
Toy Story 2 - 7.9, 467k votes
Fantastic Mr. Fox - 7.9, 176k votes
Kiki's Delivery Service - 7.9, 98.7k votes
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm - 7.9, 38.2k votes
Tangled - 7.8, 365k votes
The Lego Movie - 7.8, 303k votes
South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut - 7.8, 182k votes
Kubo and the Two Strings - 7.8, 105k votes
Fantasia - 7.8, 81.7k votes
The Girl Who Leapt Through Time - 7.8, 52.0k votes
Wreck-it Ralph - 7.7, 342k votes
Coraline - 7.7, 178k votes
Ponyo - 7.7, 107k votes
Watership Down - 7.7, 30.7k votes
Moana - 7.6, 222k votes
Mulan - 7.6, 221k votes
The Little Mermaid - 7.6, 212k votes
The Jungle Book - 7.6, 150k votes
Robin Hood - 7.6, 103k votes
Frozen - 7.5, 515k votes
Pinocchio - 7.5, 116k votes
Summer Wars - 7.5, 22.7k votes

The Emperor's New Groove - 7.4, 160k votes
Alice in Wonderland - 7.4, 116k votes
The Simpsons Movie - 7.3, 291k votes
Hercules - 7.3, 181k votes
Lilo & Stitch - 7.2, 149k votes
The Prince of Egypt - 7.1, 108k votes

The Hunchback of Notre Dame - 6.9, 127k votes
The Road to El Dorado - 6.9, 75.0k votes

Pokmon: The First Movie - 6.1, 35.4k votes
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And here is the bracket based on IMDb user ratings:

Division 1, Round 1:
(1)Spirited Away
(16)Robin Hood

(8)South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut
(9)Pinocchio

(5)Lilo & Stitch
(12)Grave of the Fireflies

(4)The Incredibles
(13)The Simpsons Movie

(3)How to Train Your Dragon (Tie score but has 600,000+ more votes)
(14)World of Tomorrow

(6)Aladdin
(11)Inside Out

(7)Toy Story
(10)Dragon Ball Super: Broly

(2)Tangled
(15)Mary and Max

Division 1, Round 2:
(1)Spirited Away
(8)South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut

(12)Grave of the Fireflies
(4)The Incredibles

(3)How to Train Your Dragon
(11)Inside Out

(7)Toy Story
(15)Mary and Max

Division 1, Round 3:
(1)Spirited Away
(12)Grave of the Fireflies

(11)Inside Out
(7)Toy Story

Division 1 Final:
(1)Spirited Away
(7)Toy Story

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Division 2, Round 1:
(1)The Lion King
(16)Shrek

(8)The Nightmare Before Christmas
(9)Watership Down

(5)The Lego Movie
(12)Monsters, Inc.

(4)Princess Mononoke
(13)Alice in Wonderland

(3)Your Name
(14)Batman: Mask of the Phantasm

(6)Coraline
(11)Hercules

(7)The Hunchback of Notre Dame
(10)Song of the Sea

(2)The Iron Giant
(15)Finding Nemo

Division 2, Round 2:
(1)The Lion King
(8)The Nightmare Before Christmas

(12)Monsters, Inc.
(4)Princess Mononoke

(3)Your Name
(6)Coraline

(10)Song of the Sea
(15)Finding Nemo (Wins by having 800k+ more votes)

Division 2, Round 3:
(1)The Lion King
(4)Princess Mononoke

(3)Your Name
(15)Finding Nemo

Division 2 Final:
(1)The Lion King
(3)Your Name

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Division 3, Round 1:
(1)It's Such a Beautiful Day
(16)The Jungle Book

(8)Kiki's Delivery Service
(9)Fantasia

(5)WALL-E (Again, the blowout of the tournament)
(12)Pokmon: The First Movie

(4)Mulan
(13)Ponyo

(3)Beauty and the Beast
(14)The Prince of Egypt

(6)A Silent Voice
(11)Toy Story 3

(7)Wreck-it Ralph
(10)Kubo and the Two Strings

(2)Akira
(15)Ratatouille

Division 3, Round 2:
(1)It's Such a Beautiful Day
(8)Kiki's Delivery Service

(5)WALL-E
(13)Ponyo

(3)Beauty and the Beast
(11)Toy Story 3

(10)Kubo and the Two Strings
(2)Akira

Division 3, Round 3:
(1)It's Such a Beautiful Day
(5)WALL-E

(11)Toy Story 3
(2)Akira

Division 3 Final:
(5)WALL-E
(11)Toy Story 3
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Division 4, Round 1:
(1)Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
(16)Coco

(8)Frozen
(9)The Tale of the Princess Kaguya

(5)The Emperor's New Groove
(12)My Neighbor Totoro

(4)The Girl Who Leapt Through Time
(13)Nausica of the Valley of the Wind

(3)Zootopia
(14)Summer Wars

(6)Fantastic Mr. Fox
(11)Toy Story 2 (Close match, decided by more votes)

(7)The Little Mermaid
(10)The Road to El Dorado

(2)Up
(15)Moana

Division 4, Round 2:
(1)Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
(9)The Tale of the Princess Kaguya

(12)My Neighbor Totoro
(13)Nausica of the Valley of the Wind

(3)Zootopia
(11)Toy Story 2

(7)The Little Mermaid
(2)Up

Division 4, Round 3:
(1)Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
(12)My Neighbor Totoro

(3)Zootopia
(2)Up

Division 4 Final:
(1)Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
(2)Up

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Semifinals:
(1)Spirited Away (Match of the tournament)
(1)The Lion King

(5)WALL-E
(1)Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse

Grand Final:
(1)Spirited Away
(1)Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse

Thoughts: Not a bad bracket. Three 1-seeds come out alive in their respective divisions, and Spirited Away comes out victorious with a score of 8.6, more than every other movie in the tournament. The Lion King, Spider-Man and Grave of the Fireflies come very close with a score of 8.5. Had Coco beaten Spider-Man, that movie would've won the division.

On some fun notes:
1) 14-seeds are the only seed to have never won a single match in any of these kind of brackets.
2) The Little Mermaid seems to be the "weakest" movie to win a match when it comes to these scores, it's just that its opponent isn't very "strong", so to speak.
3) The IMDb ratings bracket seems least skewed towards one particular studio: Studio Ghibli, Disney, Pixar and Sony all have one movie out of a division, where as the others have more than one Pixar or Studio Ghibli film.
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Totoro does better in basically every kind of ranking EXCEPT by b8 standards.

neverluckyermine :(
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spirited away better beat incrediblessss
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Day 25 results:
(1) Spirited Away - 23
(4) The Incredibles - 14
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SuperNiceDog posted...

spirited away better beat incrediblessss

Happy now?!
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Day 26 results:
(6) Aladdin - 26
(7) Toy Story - 28

Only one possible explanation for this match: Aladdin must suffering from some kind of live-action remake deboost.
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oof that's lame
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First time in like a week there's a result I'm excited about lul
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Can't complain with the result.
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Day 27 results:
(1) The Lion King - 20
(4) Princess Mononoke - 21

I was joking about that "live-action remake deboost" thing yesterday, but...
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oh shit I didn't think me voting would actually affect that outcome, huh
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@Xeybozn posted...

Day 27 results:
(1) The Lion King - 20
(4) Princess Mononoke - 21

I was joking about that "live-action remake deboost" thing yesterday, but...

Do you think it's true?
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_Dog_ posted...

@Xeybozn posted...

Day 27 results:
(1) The Lion King - 20
(4) Princess Mononoke - 21

I was joking about that "live-action remake deboost" thing yesterday, but...

Do you think it's true?

Nah. It's just really weird to see Aladdin and TLK both losing a match in one of these contests, especially this early and on consecutive days.
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Ouch.
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Oooh... Unlucky TLK. I'd be a lot more sympathetic if it wasn't TLK, which btw I voted for.

I like the film great it's just it tends to walk best animated movie contest it's in.
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Day 28 results:
(3) Your Name - 20
(7) The Hunchback of Notre Dame - 12
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Day 29 results:
(16) The Jungle Book - 13
(4) Mulan - 28
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Let's go for a Mulan vs. Wreck-It Ralph finals!
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It sucks that the Toy Story franchise and its needless sequel arent getting the same backlash that the Live Action remakes are giving.
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Just wait until the Toy Story live action remakes!

Ralph's got a great first act, but everything (specifically the pacing) goes to hell when Sugar Rush takes center stage. People give TS3 flak for using the TS2 outline, and that's totally true, but I find the heist stuff more engaging and inventive than anything in the first two movies.
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*would be willing to serve 3-5 to defend TS3, maybe longer*
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Day 30 results:
(11) Toy Story 3 - 22
(7) Wreck-It Ralph - 9
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Can't complain, Said the Bearded Lady to the Barber.
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Day 31 results:
(1) Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse - 25
(5) The Emperor's New Groove - 18

Excuse me, I was told there would be a "bloodbath". What's with this normal final score?
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rSFF
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I just watched ENG to see if it would change my mind. It's definitely more personal than Spider-Verse imo, which has a lot of paper-thin supporting characters; put side-by-side, Kuzco and Pacha's friendship is really organic for a sub-90 minute runtime. I stuck with Spider-Verse though, if only because Miles is a stronger lead and the punchy, breathtaking artstyle.
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Day 32 results:
(3) Zootopia - 18
(2) Up - 24
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hey it kept it a bit closer than I thought it would
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Ah, Fuck it.
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Thank goodness
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