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Mead
04/14/19 10:01:23 PM
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Omg that was so fucking good
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PKMNsony
04/14/19 10:05:19 PM
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Eh, it was enjoyable but I didnt expect much from the first episode and got what I sort of expected. I expect a lot as the season goes on a though and hope it delivers.
Mead
04/14/19 10:12:54 PM
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It was jam packed imo, so much happened in just the premiere

Jon knows he is a targaeryan, he rode a fucking dragon, Sam found out about his family and is rightfully outraged, Theon got an ounce of mojo back and saved his sister, euron humped cersei and I think put his thumb in her butt, Bronn has to choose money or his friends, and Tormund and Beric got spooked by a fiery wall boy!

And thats just what I remember
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Xfma100
04/14/19 10:23:00 PM
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Poor Sam.

Daenerys: Your father didn't bend the knee, so I executed him.
Sam: Oh... Well at least my brother will-
Daenerys: He was with your father.
Sam: :(


Some parts of this episode were quite humorous.
GanonsSpirit
04/14/19 10:26:49 PM
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The new intro is slick.
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Mead
04/14/19 10:30:12 PM
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Xfma100 posted...
Poor Sam.

Daenerys: Your father didn't bend the knee, so I executed him.
Sam: Oh... Well at least my brother will-
Daenerys: He was with your father.
Sam: :(


Some parts of this episode were quite humorous.


He has every right to be pissed too
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DrPrimemaster
04/14/19 10:44:48 PM
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Mead posted...
Xfma100 posted...
Poor Sam.

Daenerys: Your father didn't bend the knee, so I executed him.
Sam: Oh... Well at least my brother will-
Daenerys: He was with your father.
Sam: :(


Some parts of this episode were quite humorous.


He has every right to be pissed too


And then his conversation with jon is absolutely right.
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Far-Queue
04/14/19 11:22:41 PM
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Mead posted...
It was jam packed imo, so much happened in just the premiere

Jon knows he is a targaeryan, he rode a fucking dragon, Sam found out about his family and is rightfully outraged, Theon got an ounce of mojo back and saved his sister, euron humped cersei and I think put his thumb in her butt, Bronn has to choose money or his friends, and Tormund and Beric got spooked by a fiery wall boy!

And thats just what I remember

And they revealed that Ed Sheeran's character got his eyelids burned off by Danaerys' dragons :D
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Mead
04/14/19 11:33:37 PM
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Far-Queue posted...
Mead posted...
It was jam packed imo, so much happened in just the premiere

Jon knows he is a targaeryan, he rode a fucking dragon, Sam found out about his family and is rightfully outraged, Theon got an ounce of mojo back and saved his sister, euron humped cersei and I think put his thumb in her butt, Bronn has to choose money or his friends, and Tormund and Beric got spooked by a fiery wall boy!

And thats just what I remember

And they revealed that Ed Sheeran's character got his eyelids burned off by Danaerys' dragons :D


Thats who they were talking about?!
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Jen0125
04/15/19 12:39:00 AM
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https://twitter.com/the_comic__nerd/status/1117613101216452608?s=19

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Mead
04/15/19 12:40:37 AM
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Jen0125 posted...


https://twitter.com/the_comic__nerd/status/1117613101216452608?s=19


Lol
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FrozenBananas
04/15/19 1:11:25 AM
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InfestedAdam
04/15/19 2:03:43 AM
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DrPrimemaster posted...
And then his conversation with jon is absolutely right.

About what? That Jon, being the son of the first son, supersedes that of the second son, etc.? Personally I feel at this point the whole birthright plot is pointless and may just be used to create unnecessary conflict between allies.

We had Robert being King by conquest (granted he does have some Targaryen blood in him) and all the lords swore loyalty to him when prior to the Rebellion they were loyal to the Targaryens.

What I'm suggesting is that it doesn't matter who has a stronger claim to the Throne. What truly matters is who is actually capable of holding on to the Throne and who is capable of winning the loyalty of the various houses and nobles.
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wolfy42
04/15/19 2:21:33 AM
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Actually Bran basically pushed Sam into telling John....and he did it now, so the timing is significant in some way and so is the fact that he is the heir. I'm thinking it's gonna lead to her having him be the king and the rest of the people in the north falling in behind him.

At the end of the episode he is also there looking at Jamie as he arrives, and again, I think this is significant. Basically Bran knows what needs to be done and I think when we see him somewhere it's central to winning the war against the walkers.

John must become the king (maybe Danny will be his queen), and I think Jamie is going to end up taking control of Cercie's army eventually to help with the fight or something along those lines.

Honestly this all seems pointless to me though because if the walker leader can take out dragons with those spears, and we know he has more, and he now even has a dragon he can ride, all he needs to do is fly over and kill the other dragons, turn them as well, and his army would be unstoppable.

That being said, I never understood why he took out the flying dragon first, instead of the one on the ground with Danny and the others on it already (it was the one he was going to kill next, so it wasn't impossible for him to hit it or anything). Maybe he's just REALLY bad at tactics, but even so, a stationary non-moving dragon has to be easier to hit with a spear then a flying dragon at great distance...and if he took out theone on the ground, the humans would never have gotten away.

I'm guessing they are going to avoid all that and just have the dragons fight in the air and the night king not take out any more dragons for some reason.

Anyway, really liked the first episode, although it felt like it was pretty much setting everything up, there was a bunch of stuff that was awesome to see, reunions etc. I'm still not really liking Sansa (been that way through the whole series though, so nothing new), love Arya a ton, really enjoyed her being a happy/childlike girl again when she first met John (that was awesome), and the interaction with the hound was great as well.

I do feel bad for Sam, and he's not wrong, but neither is John, more important things then who will sit on the throne right now, but sadly to get the north behind them, it might need to become important and John may need to step up.
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Blighboy
04/15/19 2:35:58 AM
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Can somebody share all the game of thrones memes

I don't really keep up on shitposting anymore.
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InfestedAdam
04/15/19 2:36:10 AM
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wolfy42 posted...
I'm thinking it's gonna lead to her having him be the king and the rest of the people in the north falling in behind him.

Whether or not she'll do that, we'll soon find out but in terms of maintaining overall order, that probably is the more ideal approach. Unlike some of the Northerners, I can only assume the Unsullied won't care whether Daenerys is leading or being lead. For the Dothraki, I'm honestly am not sure how they would react to Daenerys bending the knee. That being said, John said the North needs her to win but does she needs the North?
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FrozenBananas
04/15/19 2:38:12 AM
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I have to agree with the fact that Cersei is parading around as Queen right now means that no one gives a fuck about right of the throne let alone actual birth right.

Do we actually think Dany will bow down to Jon? Hell no, shes about to go BITCH MODE when she finds out that Jon deserves the Throne over her.
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Zikten
04/15/19 2:39:37 AM
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I was hoping to see more of the White Walker army. where is it? how long does it talk to march from the Wall to Winterfell?
Blighboy
04/15/19 2:40:10 AM
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Zikten posted...
I was hoping to see more of the White Walker army. where is it? how long does it talk to march from the Wall to Winterfell?

Probably around 25 seasons given their pace so far
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FrozenBananas
04/15/19 2:46:12 AM
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From what I hear, the 3rd episode is supposed to be an epic battle. 1 hour 22 mins long. Thatll probably be when the White Walkers come. So next week will still be a slow bridge episode
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Far-Queue
04/15/19 5:06:03 AM
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Mead posted...
Far-Queue posted...
Mead posted...
It was jam packed imo, so much happened in just the premiere

Jon knows he is a targaeryan, he rode a fucking dragon, Sam found out about his family and is rightfully outraged, Theon got an ounce of mojo back and saved his sister, euron humped cersei and I think put his thumb in her butt, Bronn has to choose money or his friends, and Tormund and Beric got spooked by a fiery wall boy!

And thats just what I remember

And they revealed that Ed Sheeran's character got his eyelids burned off by Danaerys' dragons :D


Thats who they were talking about?!

Bron's hookers? Yeah.
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Krazy_Kirby
04/15/19 6:09:52 AM
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weren't all the episodes supposed to be longer?
this was normal length.

and i feel like they spent too much time on the flight part, they only have so much time left to wrap up everything.
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Zikten
04/15/19 6:11:20 AM
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I think some of the later episodes are over an hour long. but I was mad this one was so short. I thoguht I had heard that each episode was like 2 hours long or something.
Krazy_Kirby
04/15/19 6:14:08 AM
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Jen0125 posted...


https://twitter.com/the_comic__nerd/status/1117613101216452608?s=19


fuck hiding links with spoilers.
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kind9
04/15/19 6:16:39 AM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
weren't all the episodes supposed to be longer?

Not all of them, one or two of them. At least that's what I read about a year ago. Same as they did with season 7 where the last episode was 90 minutes.

I was surprised how much they fit into this episode. I was really expecting Theon to go on a great adventure to redeem himself and save his sister that would drag on through the whole season, but that's over and done already.
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FrozenBananas
04/15/19 6:20:35 AM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
weren't all the episodes supposed to be longer?
this was normal length.

and i feel like they spent too much time on the flight part, they only have so much time left to wrap up everything.


IMDb has the first 2 episodes listed as 58-60 mins, with episodes 3-6 at 1 hour 20+ mins each, dunno if its confirmed.

Also yeah, the flight part was by far the worst part of the episode. Absolutely waste of 3 mins
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kind9
04/15/19 6:23:59 AM
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Meh, I didn't hate the flight scene but it really was pointless. "The dragons aren't eating" "Okay then let's take them on a joy ride."
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CacciatoPart3
04/15/19 6:33:42 AM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
Jen0125 posted...


https://twitter.com/the_comic__nerd/status/1117613101216452608?s=19


fuck hiding links with spoilers.

Shut the fuck up
Krazy_Kirby
04/15/19 6:34:25 AM
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even counting the credits it wasn't really an hour long though...
the previews for what happens next shouldn't be counted as the runtime for this episode
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CacciatoPart3
04/15/19 6:35:03 AM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
even counting the credits it wasn't really an hour long though...
the previews for what happens next shouldn't be counted as the runtime for this episode

Thanks, champ.
Krazy_Kirby
04/15/19 6:35:46 AM
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CacciatoPart3 posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
Jen0125 posted...


https://twitter.com/the_comic__nerd/status/1117613101216452608?s=19


fuck hiding links with spoilers.

Shut the fuck up


did i offend you by not fawning over a girl on the internet?
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CacciatoPart3
04/15/19 6:39:54 AM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
CacciatoPart3 posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
Jen0125 posted...


https://twitter.com/the_comic__nerd/status/1117613101216452608?s=19


fuck hiding links with spoilers.

Shut the fuck up


did i offend you by not fawning over a girl on the internet?

What?

No. You offended by making one of your dumbass posts again.
Krazy_Kirby
04/15/19 6:41:50 AM
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yes, because i'm the only person who dislikes links hidden by spoilers.
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SpaceBear_
04/15/19 8:12:41 AM
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How To Train Your Dragon 3 is not what I waited two years for.
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DrPrimemaster
04/15/19 8:22:55 AM
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InfestedAdam posted...
DrPrimemaster posted...
And then his conversation with jon is absolutely right.

About what? That Jon, being the son of the first son, supersedes that of the second son, etc.? Personally I feel at this point the whole birthright plot is pointless and may just be used to create unnecessary conflict between allies.

We had Robert being King by conquest (granted he does have some Targaryen blood in him) and all the lords swore loyalty to him when prior to the Rebellion they were loyal to the Targaryens.

What I'm suggesting is that it doesn't matter who has a stronger claim to the Throne. What truly matters is who is actually capable of holding on to the Throne and who is capable of winning the loyalty of the various houses and nobles.


I was trying to be vague and avoid spoiler tags but I meant what sam said about dany and jon was

Jon wouldnt have burnt his brother alive, jon knows when to not execute people. Dany is a mad king.
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Far-Queue
04/15/19 8:43:09 AM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
yes, because i'm the only person who dislikes links hidden by spoilers.

The link contains a spoiler sooooo

SpaceBear_ posted...
How To Train Your Dragon 3 is not what I waited two years for.

Good thing this is a series and not a single movie finale.

It's the first episode, dude. They're setting up plotlines moving forward.
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SmokeMassTree
04/15/19 9:07:13 AM
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PKMNsony
04/15/19 9:34:42 AM
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Far-Queue posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
yes, because i'm the only person who dislikes links hidden by spoilers.

The link contains a spoiler sooooo

SpaceBear_ posted...
How To Train Your Dragon 3 is not what I waited two years for.

Good thing this is a series and not a single movie finale.

It's the first episode, dude. They're setting up plotlines moving forward.

Maybe, but the dragon scene was pretty cringey. Felt like Aladdin and Jasmine riding on the magic carpet.
Zangulus
04/15/19 9:35:54 AM
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PKMNsony posted...
Far-Queue posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
yes, because i'm the only person who dislikes links hidden by spoilers.

The link contains a spoiler sooooo

SpaceBear_ posted...
How To Train Your Dragon 3 is not what I waited two years for.

Good thing this is a series and not a single movie finale.

It's the first episode, dude. They're setting up plotlines moving forward.

Maybe, but the dragon scene was pretty cringey. Felt like Aladdin and Jasmine riding on the magic carpet.


Two young lovers riding around on the only two dragons left to exist in hundreds of years...

Cringe.

Ok.
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Nightwish
04/15/19 9:42:34 AM
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Bran is the Night King, him forcing Sam to tell Jon about his father does nothing but create problems within the living army, it could've waited until after the WW fight
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Far-Queue
04/15/19 9:42:45 AM
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On top of that, the dragon allowing Jon to ride sort of foreshadows the big reveal that Jon is Aegon. I thought that scene was a good bit of story building, and sets up things moving forward. The dragon clearly trusts Jon, and if things go sour between he and Dany, this could be a huge tell in how the dragon(s) will react and who they'll ultimately side with
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Energy Surge
04/15/19 11:04:50 AM
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Nightwish posted...
Bran is the Night King, him forcing Sam to tell Jon about his father does nothing but create problems within the living army, it could've waited until after the WW fight

Bran knows things now. He decided Sam had to be the one to tell Jon. Maybe Jon wouldn't believe Bran's prophetic powers. Plus Sam found hard evidence proving Rhaegar and Lyanna were legally married and she produced a legitimate heir for Rhaegar. Whatever the reason, he decided it had to be Sam. And he waited to force Sam until after Sam received news of his father and brother. Perhaps that was also important for convincing Sam to tell Jon and/or make Sam more believable.

Theory crafting possible future events:
So Bran can see the future, right? He also decided not to wait any longer after this moment. Perhaps because there wouldn't be another opportunity for Sam to tell Jon. Maybe Bran knows Sam won't survive to tell him after the fighting is over? So he can't wait as you suggest.

If Sam survives, I yield Bran is causing unnecessary problems for the living. If Sam doesn't survive, Bran's loyalty to the living is intact. This was important information Jon needed to know and believe. If this is the last time he can be convinced by Sam then it was important to tell him now. Sorry Sam, you've got to die now for the good of the story's logic.


Far-Queue posted...
On top of that, the dragon allowing Jon to ride sort of foreshadows the big reveal that Jon is Aegon. I thought that scene was a good bit of story building, and sets up things moving forward. The dragon clearly trusts Jon, and if things go sour between he and Dany, this could be a huge tell in how the dragon(s) will react and who they'll ultimately side with

I can see the dragon Jon rode being more loyal to him. Would Drogo be more loyal to Jon? I'm not sure. That expression Drogon was making at Jon after the flight could have been a look of trust or suspicion. I tended to lean more toward suspicion during the scene.

The dragon that was killed and turned was Viserion (named after Dany's brother Viserys), right? So the one Jon is riding is Rhaegal (named after Dany's brother Rhaegar), correct? I don't recall which of the smaller dragons is which. I just assume Jon's riding the dragon named after his father and Dany's riding the one named after her late husband Drogo. It would be fitting.



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wolfy42
04/15/19 12:09:37 PM
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Bran isn't the night king and he is not sabataging them, he has enough powers to have gotten em all killed and made the night king win easily at this point. He just put littlefinger away in the last episode in fact and just by preventing that (which he easily could have done) could have weakened the defenders greatly.

I don't think Sam has to die, although it is a possibility. I think the timing is important in order to get the largest amount of people in the army possible, and they are all going to be needed. I still think Jamie is the next key, and that he is going to get Cercies army (and probably even the Golden army as well) to join in the fight.

Theon might even get the Iron Island gang to join in as well (less likely, but possible).

I'm curious if they are going to have Arya kill Cercie, or....possibly...Jamie kill her. I do hope she dies one way or another and then Jamie takes over, possibly in the next episode even. Alot was set up in this episode and it just feels like it's going to be very Jamie centered in the next one. Arya also has that special weapon she wants made....obviously for a purpose. The biggest name on her list at this point...the most likely target, is Cercie, so yeah....I'm betting something is gonna happen there before the epic final battle starts.

My....guess? Next episode will start with everyone dealing with Jamie, Bran will say he's important/neccesary, Theon will arrive and Bran will send Theon, Jamie and Arya all back to convince Cercie to send the armies. She will be killed (Jamie takes over) and Theon will kill and take over the iron island guys. They will gather the armies (including the golden one) and march for the north.

They will not get there before the battle starts, and...they may even leave it as a cliff hanger (we see things end at kings landing with Jamie taking over etc, but don't see the armies marching etc), until the epic fight is going badly and then jamie's armies save the day (ish).

Just my guess on how things are gonna go.
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wolfy42
04/15/19 12:40:54 PM
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Cersie btw, was a master manipulator in this last episode. She had specific goals and she accomplished them all and set up things in the future. I don't think things are gonna end up well for her, but that doesn't means she hasn't given it a great shot.

I believe she did everything on purpose in this episode to end up with the current results.

Two people know she is pregnant, her brothers basically, and I believe she intentionally let them both know that. She wanted Tyrion to know (And knew he would figure it out from what she said and holding her belly) so he would believe she had a reason to send her army to the north.

She knew that Jamie would not be ok with NOT sending them to the north, and she needed him gone (So she could have him killed without it falling on her, and so there would be no suspicion that the baby was his).

She planned and did sleep with Eoron, so he would think the baby was his, and she would have a backup plan if she loses the throne (which was very likely even without the armies of the dead, due to the 3 dragons and the huge army Dany has etc).

Meanwhile she noticed there were only 2 dragons left, which meant the undead army has a way of killing them (she doesn't know that they actually can raise them though), and she really needs those dragons dead.

Sadly for Cersie, she doesn't know a few important facts.

First, if the dragons die, they can become undead dragons which are at least as deadly.

Second the army of the undead....gets bigger, the more living they kill. So she won't just be fighting the left overs if the army of undead win, she'll be fighting them all (including 3 undead dragons).

Third. While the undead can't swim, they can build and use tools (chains to drag the dragon up etc) AND the night lord etc can ride undead dragons as well, so the Iron Islands etc are not safe....at all.

I do think they portrayed her character perfectly though, she is scheeming and planning away. She set both her brother's up to be killed (hiring Bron and maybe others). I think even sending Jamie to the north was an attempt to divide them (He did kill Danny's dad for instance, crippled Bran etc...so he has quite a few enemies there....while a few others (like Brianne) will defend him for sure.

I'm kinda interested in what goes down between Jamie and Tormund though, since I think they both "like" Brianne hehe.

Anyway I do think it was a good episode. I still really want Cersie to die, but....they are player her very much like a spider, setting up a web etc. I just think she is doomed and doesn't have all the information. Due to some things just not being likely (the northern armies all being obliterated by the undead is probably not gonna happen), I think Cersie has to lose/die or somehow get taken out of the picture (I mean Eoron could just grab her and sail away for instance heh).

I doubt that will happen because they have focused so much time on Arya though....I really do think they will have her interact with Cersie at least, if not kill her. Even her choosing NOT to kill Cersie even though she has the chance, would be closure. I don't think they can end the series without some kind of confrontation between them though (It would be ironic and....fitting though if Sansa somehow killed Cersie instead of Arya hehe).
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Jen0125
04/15/19 12:52:14 PM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
Jen0125 posted...


https://twitter.com/the_comic__nerd/status/1117613101216452608?s=19


fuck hiding links with spoilers.


What

It's a spoiler so I used a spoiler tag
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Jen0125
04/15/19 12:57:39 PM
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Also wasn't the point of the dragon riding scene to show that Jon is definitely a Targaryon? Can't only Targaryons ride dragons? Maybe they did that so if he questions his birth they can point it out.
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Zikten
04/15/19 12:58:36 PM
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Good point Jen. I was just thinking about that like an hour ago. I bet that's it
User728
04/15/19 12:59:32 PM
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Beric Dondarrion will become King of Westeros before this is over. Youll see. Youll all see.
Blighboy
04/15/19 1:11:58 PM
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He'd probably be a good king so I'd be okay with that.
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Zangulus
04/15/19 1:12:33 PM
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User728 posted...
Beric Dondarrion will become King of Westeros before this is over. Youll see. Youll all see.


But hell only half see.
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