Poll of the Day > Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker trailer

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FrozenBananas
04/13/19 10:27:34 PM
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One movie following right after another is not the same as having s completely different story

Empire was literally a cliffhanger into Jedi in every sense of the word. Just because it took place a while after its predecessor doesnt mean it had nothing to do with it
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Blighboy
04/13/19 10:58:24 PM
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But I don't think you can say this has a completely different story from a couple trailer shots. The locations and driving plot of the story are going to be different. But it's beyond presumptive to assume they're going to pretend TLJ never happened, especially when we literally have Luke narrating the trailer.
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GameReviews
04/13/19 10:58:54 PM
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adjl posted...
Mead posted...
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Blighboy posted...
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Honestly, the trailer just looks confusing. Like, other than the characters, it seems like they totally disregard everything that happened in Last Jedi and Force Awakens.

With how much of a mess Last Jedi was, and how mediocre Solo was, I'm not hopeful for this.

Traditionally Star Wars movies aren't directly connected to their prequels aside from the characters, with Last Jedi being the notable exception to the rule. This seems like a return to that trend.

You're kidding, right? Have you even watched any Star Wars movies?


Hes not wrong, theres usually several years that pass between films even set in the same trilogy

TLJ was unique that it took place immediately after the events of TFA


Indeed. Most of the time, the preamble tells a small story that fills in the time gap, rather than jumping directly from one movie to the next. There are usually overarching plot lines, certainly, but not generally stories that immediately follow each other. TLJ was an exception to that trend (one could maybe argue that Episode IV also qualifies now that Rogue One exists, but that's very different).

I see what you're saying. I did not mean that there is not in-universe time between movies, as there obviously is. What I mean is, episodes 4-6 and 1-3 had overarching plotlines that progressed from movie to movie. I don't see any indication of that here.
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Veedrock-
04/14/19 5:31:16 AM
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What I mean is, episodes 4-6 and 1-3 had overarching plotlines that progressed from movie to movie. I don't see any indication of that here.

I disagree for the original trilogy, 4 didn't set the stage or contribute anything to the next movies.
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AllstarSniper32
04/14/19 6:53:06 AM
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Veedrock- posted...
4 didn't set the stage or contribute anything to the next movies.

Besides characters, or something like...the force and jedi/sith.
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GameReviews
04/14/19 6:57:39 AM
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Veedrock- posted...
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What I mean is, episodes 4-6 and 1-3 had overarching plotlines that progressed from movie to movie. I don't see any indication of that here.

I disagree for the original trilogy, 4 didn't set the stage or contribute anything to the next movies.

Episode 4 was a movie written to work on its own. They didn't even know it was going to have a sequel at the time it was made.

That being said, Empire is largely regarded as one of the best sequels ever because it did such an excellent job of building and expanding upon what the first movie set up.
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AllstarSniper32
04/14/19 7:14:23 AM
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Watching TLJ again for the first time in a while.
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thekingoftown
04/14/19 11:14:22 AM
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Bowdler posted...
Read this as rise of the skinwalker.

Skywalker Ranch=/=Skinwalker Ranch.


That's Luca's side Star Wars porn parody studio
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AllstarSniper32
04/15/19 6:35:07 AM
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Unbridled9
04/15/19 12:25:09 PM
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So where the heck did they get that Death Star ruin from? In IV it blew up over the gas planet and Endor was a forest planet. Not to mention both were pretty big and, IIRC, clearly showed nothing that huge for debris. Maybe it's the second one and it crashed on Endor burning away the foliage but I don't feel that's likely. Maybe it was the prototype? That's the only way I can see it making sense.

Not that I really care. After TLJ I'm not seeing IX in theaters.
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Miroku_of_Nite1
04/15/19 9:10:50 PM
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Unbridled9 posted...
So where the heck did they get that Death Star ruin from? In IV it blew up over the gas planet and Endor was a forest planet. Not to mention both were pretty big and, IIRC, clearly showed nothing that huge for debris. Maybe it's the second one and it crashed on Endor burning away the foliage but I don't feel that's likely. Maybe it was the prototype? That's the only way I can see it making sense.

Not that I really care. After TLJ I'm not seeing IX in theaters.


There was some comic/story/expanded universe thing that when the ruins of Death Star Mark II fell onto Endor it fucked the whole planet up.
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Unbridled9
04/15/19 10:12:50 PM
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Miroku_of_Nite1 posted...
Unbridled9 posted...
So where the heck did they get that Death Star ruin from? In IV it blew up over the gas planet and Endor was a forest planet. Not to mention both were pretty big and, IIRC, clearly showed nothing that huge for debris. Maybe it's the second one and it crashed on Endor burning away the foliage but I don't feel that's likely. Maybe it was the prototype? That's the only way I can see it making sense.

Not that I really care. After TLJ I'm not seeing IX in theaters.


There was some comic/story/expanded universe thing that when the ruins of Death Star Mark II fell onto Endor it fucked the whole planet up.


If we're thinking of the same one it was a non-canon joke comic.
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Nichtcrawler X
04/15/19 10:19:38 PM
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Unbridled9 posted...

If we're thinking of the same one it was a non-canon joke comic.


Something akin to a Gundam Colony crash really cannot be a joke...
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ParanoidObsessive
04/15/19 11:23:07 PM
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Unbridled9 posted...
So where the heck did they get that Death Star ruin from? In IV it blew up over the gas planet

And there were at least four moons orbiting that planet - the Rebel base was on Yavin 4 (the EU says there's something like two dozen moons, but the EU is of questionable canonicity now).

But realistically, because of how space works, once the Death Star explodes and flings bits of itself in every direction, it could wind up pretty much anywhere. Presumably it would still have to be within the same star system as either Yavin or Endor (because it's not exploding at light speed, so even 40 years of travel wouldn't be enough to reach another star system), and it would likely have to wind up on one of the moons rather than a completely different planet (because even if it was flung out parallel to the orbital plane hitting a different planet in the same system would be like shooting a needle in a haystack from a thousand feet away while blindfolded), but that still leaves a bunch of potential moons it could have wound up on.

Yavin 4 and Endor are both pretty clearly forest-type moons (because of the Lucas/Star Wars fetish for single biome planets), and the chunk looks like it's on a grassland/plains-type planet/moon, so it's probably not one of those two specifically but one of their neighbors.



Unbridled9 posted...
Miroku_of_Nite1 posted...
There was some comic/story/expanded universe thing that when the ruins of Death Star Mark II fell onto Endor it fucked the whole planet up.

If we're thinking of the same one it was a non-canon joke comic.

It wasn't a non-canon joke comic - it was canon at the time, and the point of it was to specifically debunk the idea that the debris would have screwed up Endor. It was deliberately written as a rebuttal to fans who kept pointing it out/bringing it up. One character said "all the debris would totally destroy Endor" and someone else was like "Nah, the Rebels shot it all down in orbit so nothing big made it through the atmosphere."


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Unbridled9
04/16/19 1:55:13 AM
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It actually does make sense that they'd shoot it all down. I mean, they can't hold Endor for long and you can bet the entire imperial navy is going to be coming their way. Best to scuttle the wreck and try to ensure there isn't a third death star.
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zoppo
04/17/19 8:48:32 AM
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These movies just keep getting worse.
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Mead
04/17/19 9:04:10 AM
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zoppo posted...
These movies just keep getting worse.


Out of the last four, three were very good
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Nade Duck
04/17/19 10:20:55 AM
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Mead posted...
zoppo posted...
These movies just keep getting worse.


Out of the last four, three were very good

one was good, the rest were passable at best tbh
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AllstarSniper32
04/17/19 10:52:58 AM
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Yay, Rose is there!
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ParanoidObsessive
04/17/19 11:32:58 AM
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Mead posted...
zoppo posted...
These movies just keep getting worse.

Out of the last four, three were very good

I'd probably commit to, out of the last four (and assuming that includes Rogue One and Solo), that one was very good, one was pretty good, one was relatively mediocre but also completely unnecessary, and one was "What the fuck were you guys smoking?"


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Noop_Noop
04/17/19 11:46:04 AM
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Its become exceedingly obvious since the prequel theologies that star wars sucks without George lucas' wife to make it what it was.

Everyone gave credit to the wrong person for making the original trilogy great, and star wars will never be good again without her.
ParanoidObsessive
04/17/19 12:13:18 PM
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Noop_Noop posted...
Its become exceedingly obvious since the prequel theologies that star wars sucks without George lucas' wife to make it what it was.

Everyone gave credit to the wrong person for making the original trilogy great, and star wars will never be good again without her.

She saved the first movie with the editing, definitely. But it's also worth remembering that pre-Star Wars George Lucas used to have lunch with directors like Spielberg, Scorsese, and De Palma and they would read scripts to each other and bounce ideas off each other, and they'd tell each other when an idea was terrible. A lot of really bad ideas got cut out of Lucas' original scripts that way. Many of which he put back IN when he was writing the script for The Phantom Menace, because by that point he'd lost all sense of self-awareness or humility.

It's also worth noting the impact that the screenwriters and directors had on the original trilogy, cleaning up some of the messier parts. Lucas having total creative control later is a large part of when the franchise started to nosedive.


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thekingoftown
04/17/19 1:58:37 PM
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zoppo posted...
These movies just keep getting worse.


....all the time
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