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Far-Queue
04/11/19 6:02:42 AM
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/11/world/europe/julian-assange-wikileaks-ecuador-embassy.html

LONDON Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks founder who released reams of secret documents that embarrassed the United States government, was taken into police custody on Thursday after being evicted from the Ecuadorean Embassy in London, where he has lived for almost seven years.

The Metropolitan Police said in a statement that Mr. Assange had been arrested by officers at the embassy on a warrant issued by Westminster Magistrates Court in 2012, for failing to surrender to the court.

The United States Justice Department has filed criminal charges against Mr. Assange, 47, related to the publication of classified documents, a fact that prosecutors accidentally made public in November. He also faces a charge in a British court of jumping bail.

Mr. Assange is also suspected of aiding Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election by releasing material stolen from the computers of the Clinton campaign and the Democratic Party. In July, the Justice Department charged 12 Russian intelligence officers with hacking those computers, and the indictment contends that at least one of them was in contact with WikiLeaks.

Mr. Assange took refuge in the embassy in June 2012 to avoid extradition to Sweden to face questions about sexual assault allegations. He has insisted that the accusations against him are false, and has said that the Swedish authorities intend to extradite him to the United States.

Sweden has rescinded its arrest warrant for Mr. Assange, but prosecutors have stressed that the case was not closed and could resume.

Ecuador gave Mr. Assange asylum in 2012, but he has been an irritant in its relations with Britain, the United States and other countries. President Lenn Moreno, who took office in 2017, had looked for a face-saving way to get him out of the arrangement.

Paul Manafort, the former Trump campaign manager who has since been convicted of financial crimes, reportedly offered in 2017 to help Ecuador hand Mr. Assange over to American authorities, but the deal was never struck.

In December, 2017, Ecuador gave Mr. Assange citizenship, and was preparing to appoint him to a diplomatic post in Russia, but the British government made clear that if he left the embassy, he would not have diplomatic immunity.

The Ecuadorean government said in March last year that it had cut off Mr. Assanges internet access, saying that he had violated an agreement to stop commenting on, or trying to influence, the politics of other countries. The government also imposed other restrictions on him, limiting his visitors and requiring him to clean his bathroom and look after his cat.

He sued the Ecuadorean government in October, claiming that it was violating his rights.

Mr. Assange, who was born in Australia, created WikiLeaks as a vehicle for people to publish secret materials anonymously. It gained enormous attention in 2010, releasing troves of classified United States documents and videos about the wars in Afghanistan and in Iraq, and confidential cables sent among diplomats.

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Far-Queue
04/11/19 6:03:07 AM
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The files documented the killing of civilians and journalists and the abuse of detainees by forces of the United States and other countries, as well as by private contractors, and it aired officials unvarnished, often unflattering views of allies and of American actions. It also revealed the identities of people working with coalition forces in Iraq and Afghanistan, which United States officials said put their lives at risk.

An Army private, Bradley Manning now known as Chelsea Manning was convicted of leaking that collection of files and was sentenced to 35 years in prison, but President Barack Obama commuted the sentence after Ms. Manning had served almost seven years.

During the 2016 campaign, WikiLeaks released thousands of emails stolen from the computer systems of the Democratic National Committee, leading to a series of revelations that embarrassed the party and Hillary Clintons campaign. United States investigators have said that the systems were hacked by Russian agents.

Mr. Assange made no secret of his intent to damage Mrs. Clinton, but he has insisted that he did not get the emails from Russia.

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Zikten
04/11/19 6:18:52 AM
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I don't have much sympathy for the guy seeing as some of his leaks put lives at risk

Not just US soldiers. He once did a leak in some country where you get the death penalty for being gay....the leak was about who was gay

Fuck him
Kyuubi4269
04/11/19 6:36:59 AM
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"You gave me asylum to escape prosecution, but you violated my rights to a maid-cleaned toilet and cat!"
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captpackrat
04/11/19 10:05:24 AM
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https://www.sfgate.com/world/article/Julian-Assange-poor-hygiene-stirred-move-Ecuador-12495042.php

It seems he doesnt wash properly, a well-placed source told the news outlet, noting the issue has prompted repeated complaints from staff at the embassy.

Julian ate everything with his hands, and he always wiped his fingers on his pants. I have never seen pants as greasy as his in my whole life, one of his closest aides, Daniel Domscheit-Berg, told the Times.

Jeremie Zimmermann, a friend and former colleague, wrote in 2012 that unless the people around him force him to shower, he might not change his clothes for days.
Mead
04/11/19 10:10:40 AM
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Wonder how long until he dies under mysterious circumstances
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ninja_lootz
04/11/19 12:25:24 PM
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Mead posted...
Wonder how long until he dies under mysterious circumstances

Another failed mugging, probably.
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OhhhJa
04/11/19 12:36:54 PM
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Another casualty of the "Russian collusion"
streamofthesky
04/11/19 6:23:46 PM
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Fucking moron pissed off his hosts when they were they only ones keeping his ass from being extradited. Should've been going out of his way to stay in their good graces.
He's complaining that if they let him be taken, it violates his human rights. Yeah...good luck w/ that argument. At best, it means some Ecuadorian representative gets reprimanded at the U.N., while you...you still wind up in prison for the rest of your life. I'm sure they're quaking in their boots!

:D

Seriously though, fuck this bastard. At first, it seemed like he was trying to actually expose war crimes and such. But then he goes and releases documents that needlessly out people who merely work in a covert position or are a local informant by not redacting their identities and probably got innocent people killed. And then he oddly decides to wage war on Democrats and help elect Donald Trump.
Hope he rots.
The_tall_midget
04/11/19 6:26:39 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
"You gave me asylum to escape prosecution, but you violated my rights to a maid-cleaned toilet and cat!"


What kind of monsters do not give someone access to a cat?
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streamofthesky
04/11/19 6:32:09 PM
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The_tall_midget posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
"You gave me asylum to escape prosecution, but you violated my rights to a maid-cleaned toilet and cat!"


What kind of monsters do not give someone access to a cat?

They gave him a cat.

The issue was they expected him to take care of the cat, and he disagreed.
Kyuubi4269
04/11/19 6:41:52 PM
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streamofthesky posted...
Seriously though, fuck this bastard. At first, it seemed like he was trying to actually expose war crimes and such. But then he goes and releases documents that needlessly out people who merely work in a covert position or are a local informant by not redacting their identities and probably got innocent people killed. And then he oddly decides to wage war on Democrats and help elect Donald Trump.
Hope he rots.

I'd say the issue is more that he decided to only leak certain information, so never actually cared about the claimed cause, just causing mayhem.
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Doctor Foxx posted...
The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas.
ForteEXE3850
04/11/19 7:00:38 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
streamofthesky posted...
Seriously though, fuck this bastard. At first, it seemed like he was trying to actually expose war crimes and such. But then he goes and releases documents that needlessly out people who merely work in a covert position or are a local informant by not redacting their identities and probably got innocent people killed. And then he oddly decides to wage war on Democrats and help elect Donald Trump.
Hope he rots.

I'd say the issue is more that he decided to only leak certain information, so never actually cared about the claimed cause, just causing mayhem.

Assuming the "cause" is complete government transparency, leaking everything made sense, assuming the the belief was the government shouldn't hide what they do from the public at all.

Given, every government has secrets they keep from the public and spies and covert agents in places that are technically illegal, whether that makes it acceptable if the cause for doing so is correct is up to you.
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DirtBasedSoap
04/11/19 7:07:23 PM
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Mead posted...
Wonder how long until he dies under mysterious circumstances

he was already killed a couple years ago
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DirtBasedSoap
04/11/19 7:09:16 PM
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You do realize that exposing the illegal things your government has been doing is illegal?
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PyroBlade1985
04/11/19 7:23:58 PM
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So long story short;
He leaked info on DNC corruption and now they want revenge.
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BlackScythe0
04/11/19 11:54:50 PM
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First time I heard about him was releasing video on bombing civilians in the middle east under bush. Honest talk I wasn't overly worried about it myself.

While I know he has done other things the next event I recall being aware of was the publishing of diplomatic emails for no reason that was ever made apparent. It was at this point I came to believe he had an issue with the US.

Then he became a Russian agent.

Without any hesitation I can say I believe he committed espionage against the US and deserves whatever is coming to him.
Golden Road
04/12/19 12:00:39 AM
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What bothers me is how the US doesn't even care about what should be the most serious thing he's accused of: rape. That should be a bigger deal than the other stuff.

Either way, guess it's good he's getting arrested, anyway.
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Zeus
04/12/19 12:03:05 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
And then he oddly decides to wage war on Democrats and help elect Donald Trump.


...and there we get to the real grievance!

BlackScythe0 posted...
First time I heard about him was releasing video on bombing civilians in the middle east under bush. Honest talk I wasn't overly worried about it myself.

While I know he has done other things the next event I recall being aware of was the publishing of diplomatic emails for no reason that was ever made apparent. It was at this point I came to believe he had an issue with the US.


He's always promoted transparency in government and has basically facilitated whistleblowing.... which makes him an enemy of the US.

BlackScythe0 posted...
Then he became a Russian agent.


LOL! That's a ridiculous narrative.

BlackScythe0 posted...
Without any hesitation I can say I believe he committed espionage against the US and deserves whatever is coming to him.


He committed nothing, the charge is that he facilitated espionage by providing a platform that transmitted those documents, generally in their entirety.
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Yellow
04/12/19 12:03:22 AM
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OhhhJa posted...
Another casualty of the "Russian collusion"

No dude the Russian troll farm.

Trump might be arming rebels that directly fight Russia, but that doesn't matter. There were internet trolls. In Russia. Un-fucking-disputable. A 2 year investigation and 3 500 topics uncovered this damning evidence.

It's a fake news epidemic. Better get Facebook to save us from all this fake news.
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streamofthesky
04/12/19 12:14:15 AM
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Zeus posted...
...and there we get to the real grievance!

Or like...all of it was grievances, and I was putting them in rough chronological order of occurrence.

Nah, that's crazy talk.
Yellow
04/12/19 12:44:48 AM
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As if every single thing on WikiLeaks is going to be morally irreprehensible.

He did use his power to hurt Hillary more, I just wish he gave Donald Trump the same treatment.

Donald Trump is obviously riddled with so many financial crimes, and actual collusion with foreign nations. Billion dollar weapons deal with Saudi Arabia after they funnel a couple hundred thousand dollars into his hotel business. That's actually true.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/report-saudis-paid-for-about-500-rooms-in-trumps-dc-hotel-after-2016-election

It was strange a guy like him would help Trump over Hillary, but it's only after he poked the hornet's nest that he got screwed, so this is more of a government hit job than actual justice for the dangerous things he's revealed (that sentence doesn't roll off the tongue well). Wasn't it Wikileaks that told us how the DNC rigged the primary?
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streamofthesky
04/12/19 12:54:25 AM
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Umm...the federal government has been after him for a long time, well before the DNC email leak. He's been in that embassy for like 8 years b/c the US government was after him (officially b/c of his sexual assault allegations, but...he was obviously going to somehow end up in the US over a crime he allegedly committed in Sweden...)

Yeah, I don't know why he basically became a one-party hit job machine, I guess since Obama was in office when the leaks happened and thus was the leader at the time the government went after him, he developed an irrational partisan hatred for Dems?
Even though the war crimes he originally exposed were under a Republican's watch, and realistically most presidents of either party would've reacted the same way.

If he truly ever did care about that shit, I'm sure he has all kinds of warm fuzzies about helping to elect a guy who put John neocon Bolton back in charge of foreign policy and Gina torture guru Haspell in charge of the CIA. Real bang up job you did there, Julian!
RedPixel
04/12/19 2:20:32 AM
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Far-Queue posted...
Mr. Assange is also suspected of aiding Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election by releasing material stolen from the computers of the Clinton campaign and the Democratic Party

Lol NY Times isn't even trying anymore.

Job interviews:
"Will you help us spew Clinton bullshit-- extreme leftism*, no journaling allowed-- when we tell you to, no questions asked?"
"Np"
"You're hired"

*The left isn't liberal anymore... Not attacking a side. Democrats are extreme left, there is no such thing as truly open minded liberal thought anymore. Just brainwash.
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joemodda
04/12/19 2:26:07 AM
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Hopefully Trump pardons him.

Can't imagine what spending 7 years locked up in a small room without internet access would do to you. He's been a prisoner and will be one in one way or another
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Mead
04/12/19 2:28:31 AM
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RedPixel posted...
Far-Queue posted...
Mr. Assange is also suspected of aiding Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election by releasing material stolen from the computers of the Clinton campaign and the Democratic Party

Lol NY Times isn't even trying anymore.

Job interviews:
"Will you help us spew Clinton bullshit-- extreme leftism*, no journaling allowed-- when we tell you to, no questions asked?"
"Np"
"You're hired"

*The left isn't liberal anymore... Not attacking a side. Democrats are extreme left, there is no such thing as truly open minded liberal thought anymore. Just brainwash.


Most of the world actually views American democrats as moderately conservative
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Kungfu Kenobi
04/12/19 2:30:24 AM
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RedPixel posted...
there is no such thing as truly open minded liberal thought anymore


There is, but it gets called Alt-Right these days.
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streamofthesky
04/12/19 2:48:32 AM
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Kungfu Kenobi posted...
RedPixel posted...
there is no such thing as truly open minded liberal thought anymore


There is, but it gets called Alt-Right these days.

"The only true open minded liberal thought is right-wing ideology."

That's some double-speak shit straight out of 1984
Kyuubi4269
04/12/19 3:01:55 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
Kungfu Kenobi posted...
RedPixel posted...
there is no such thing as truly open minded liberal thought anymore


There is, but it gets called Alt-Right these days.

"The only true open minded liberal thought is right-wing ideology."

That's some double-speak shit straight out of 1984

It gets called, not it is.

Everything outside Marxist doctrine is right or alt-right to them.
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Doctor Foxx posted...
The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas.
streamofthesky
04/12/19 3:04:44 AM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
streamofthesky posted...
Kungfu Kenobi posted...
RedPixel posted...
there is no such thing as truly open minded liberal thought anymore


There is, but it gets called Alt-Right these days.

"The only true open minded liberal thought is right-wing ideology."

That's some double-speak shit straight out of 1984

It gets called, not it is.

Everything outside Marxist doctrine is right or alt-right to them.

Ok, sure. To "them."
Kyuubi4269
04/12/19 5:14:03 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
streamofthesky posted...
Kungfu Kenobi posted...
RedPixel posted...
there is no such thing as truly open minded liberal thought anymore


There is, but it gets called Alt-Right these days.

"The only true open minded liberal thought is right-wing ideology."

That's some double-speak shit straight out of 1984

It gets called, not it is.

Everything outside Marxist doctrine is right or alt-right to them.

Ok, sure. To "them."

The Marxists. It's implied in the same sentence.
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Doctor Foxx posted...
The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas.
The_tall_midget
04/12/19 12:52:22 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

The Marxists. It's implied in the same sentence.


You do know you can call them idiots, right? It's the same thing, really.
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BlackScythe0
04/12/19 3:12:07 PM
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Zeus posted...
streamofthesky posted...
And then he oddly decides to wage war on Democrats and help elect Donald Trump.


...and there we get to the real grievance!

BlackScythe0 posted...
First time I heard about him was releasing video on bombing civilians in the middle east under bush. Honest talk I wasn't overly worried about it myself.

While I know he has done other things the next event I recall being aware of was the publishing of diplomatic emails for no reason that was ever made apparent. It was at this point I came to believe he had an issue with the US.


He's always promoted transparency in government and has basically facilitated whistleblowing.... which makes him an enemy of the US.

BlackScythe0 posted...
Then he became a Russian agent.


LOL! That's a ridiculous narrative.

BlackScythe0 posted...
Without any hesitation I can say I believe he committed espionage against the US and deserves whatever is coming to him.


He committed nothing, the charge is that he facilitated espionage by providing a platform that transmitted those documents, generally in their entirety.


If I get your emails and post them for everyone to see am I promoting transparency? No. Fuck off with that horse shit.

Also I'm fairly certain I heard he was being charged with assisting Manning with bypassing a password to gain access to additional information he did not have access to.

Journalists have the right to publish illegally obtained information that is given to them. They do not have the right to illegally obtain information themselves.
ClarkDuke
04/12/19 8:25:58 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Zeus posted...
streamofthesky posted...
And then he oddly decides to wage war on Democrats and help elect Donald Trump.


...and there we get to the real grievance!

BlackScythe0 posted...
First time I heard about him was releasing video on bombing civilians in the middle east under bush. Honest talk I wasn't overly worried about it myself.

While I know he has done other things the next event I recall being aware of was the publishing of diplomatic emails for no reason that was ever made apparent. It was at this point I came to believe he had an issue with the US.


He's always promoted transparency in government and has basically facilitated whistleblowing.... which makes him an enemy of the US.

BlackScythe0 posted...
Then he became a Russian agent.


LOL! That's a ridiculous narrative.

BlackScythe0 posted...
Without any hesitation I can say I believe he committed espionage against the US and deserves whatever is coming to him.


He committed nothing, the charge is that he facilitated espionage by providing a platform that transmitted those documents, generally in their entirety.


If I get your emails and post them for everyone to see am I promoting transparency? No. Fuck off with that horse shit.

Also I'm fairly certain I heard he was being charged with assisting Manning with bypassing a password to gain access to additional information he did not have access to.

Journalists have the right to publish illegally obtained information that is given to them. They do not have the right to illegally obtain information themselves.

Zeus has a board where he posts his "ideas" and thoughts, its lunacy, ok?
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Zeus
04/13/19 2:22:01 AM
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Yellow posted...
Wasn't it Wikileaks that told us how the DNC rigged the primary?


They didn't "rig" the primary. They barely even attempted to steer it (well, minus Donna Brazile's involvement, which was inexcusable and was also tied to a larger issue with CNN itself -- and, of course, it's worth noting that CNN's parent company has close ties to the Clintons and its members were major donors to Hillary's campaign), especially since a lot of their more overt shit allegedly started after Bernie Sanders was mathematically eliminated but refused to withdraw.

joemodda posted...
Hopefully Trump pardons him.

Can't imagine what spending 7 years locked up in a small room without internet access would do to you. He's been a prisoner and will be one in one way or another


I doubt Trump will. Although the leaks benefited him, he's not exactly big on whistleblowers even if he's not as brutally repressive as Obama.

streamofthesky posted...
Kungfu Kenobi posted...
RedPixel posted...
there is no such thing as truly open minded liberal thought anymore


There is, but it gets called Alt-Right these days.

"The only true open minded liberal thought is right-wing ideology."

That's some double-speak shit straight out of 1984


Double-speak would be confusing the alt-right for the right. They're more fittingly just anti-SJW, especially since the movement rose in opposition to SJWs.

BlackScythe0 posted...
If I get your emails and post them for everyone to see am I promoting transparency? No. Fuck off with that horse shit.

Also I'm fairly certain I heard he was being charged with assisting Manning with bypassing a password to gain access to additional information he did not have access to.

Journalists have the right to publish illegally obtained information that is given to them. They do not have the right to illegally obtain information themselves.


1) It depends on the content of the emails and, in many of these cases, it exposed dirty dealing, such as Donna Brazile/CNN collaborating with the Clinton campaign during the primaries.

2) Which, as presented thus far, is a vague and nebulous charge.

3) And he didn't obtain it himself.
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BlackScythe0
04/13/19 11:18:35 AM
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Zeus posted...
3) And he didn't obtain it himself.


He stands accused of working to illegally obtain information for himself.
OneTimeBen
04/13/19 11:30:17 AM
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He was cushy living for wanted person for many years. Employees say he was aggressive and unfriendly. So good bye
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ClarkDuke
04/13/19 10:46:34 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Zeus posted...
3) And he didn't obtain it himself.


He stands accused of working to illegally obtain information for himself.

at least he was working, unlike Zeus, ok?
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OhhhJa
04/14/19 1:52:45 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Journalists have the right to publish illegally obtained information that is given to them. They do not have the right to illegally obtain information themselves.

Except for CNN right? They have the exclusive right to publish illegally obtained info? And also how do you explain CNN postingnup at Roger Stone's house before his arrest. They had to have been informed about the warrant prior which is illegal
The_tall_midget
04/14/19 2:14:03 PM
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OhhhJa posted...

Except for CNN right? They have the exclusive right to publish illegally obtained info? And also how do you explain CNN postingnup at Roger Stone's house before his arrest. They had to have been informed about the warrant prior which is illegal


"Believe all women... Except those accusing democrats."

"Journalists can't illegally obtain information... Except when they're pro left."

"Trump is a disgusting racist and xenophobe... Ilhan Omar is not."

"The problem in America are rich white men." -Bernie Sanders

"Illegal immigration is a crisis for our country. It is an open door for drugs, criminals, and potential terrorists to enter our country. It is straining our economy, adding costs to our judicial, healthcare, and education systems." -Obama *idiotic lefties applaud*

Trump says the same thing.

*Lefties screams their heads off that he's a disgusting racist and xenophobe*

Love the hypocritical left. A never ending supply of double standards.
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BloodWhen_iWipe
04/14/19 2:24:53 PM
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The_tall_midget posted...
OhhhJa posted...

Except for CNN right? They have the exclusive right to publish illegally obtained info? And also how do you explain CNN postingnup at Roger Stone's house before his arrest. They had to have been informed about the warrant prior which is illegal


"Believe all women... Except those accusing democrats."

Must be why Dems almost universally called for Al Franken to step down and are now saying Biden should give up on any run for the presidency.

Meanwhile, Republicans rally behind people like Kavanaugh and Roy Moore, who have each had more serious accusations levied against them than Franken and Biden combined.

Note, I'm not defending anyone from either party here. Just pointing out where you're wrong. The rest of your points are pretty much dumbass bullshit, too.
BlackScythe0
04/14/19 2:30:54 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
Journalists have the right to publish illegally obtained information that is given to them. They do not have the right to illegally obtain information themselves.

Except for CNN right? They have the exclusive right to publish illegally obtained info? And also how do you explain CNN posting up at Roger Stone's house before his arrest. They had to have been informed about the warrant prior which is illegal


I'm unclear if you misunderstood what I said or if you're trying to make a completely and totally irrelevant point.

If CNN was informed, the person who informed them could be in violation of the law. CNN did not violate any law. Are you trying to claim that CNN took the information illegally? If so I have no clue what your basis for that would be.

The_tall_midget posted...
OhhhJa posted...

Except for CNN right? They have the exclusive right to publish illegally obtained info? And also how do you explain CNN postingnup at Roger Stone's house before his arrest. They had to have been informed about the warrant prior which is illegal


"Believe all women... Except those accusing democrats."

"Journalists can't illegally obtain information... Except when they're pro left."

"Trump is a disgusting racist and xenophobe... Ilhan Omar is not."

"The problem in America are rich white men." -Bernie Sanders

"Illegal immigration is a crisis for our country. It is an open door for drugs, criminals, and potential terrorists to enter our country. It is straining our economy, adding costs to our judicial, healthcare, and education systems." -Obama *idiotic lefties applaud*

Trump says the same thing.

*Lefties screams their heads off that he's a disgusting racist and xenophobe*

Love the hypocritical left. A never ending supply of double standards.


This is literally nonsense.
OhhhJa
04/14/19 2:38:08 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
OhhhJa posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
Journalists have the right to publish illegally obtained information that is given to them. They do not have the right to illegally obtain information themselves.

Except for CNN right? They have the exclusive right to publish illegally obtained info? And also how do you explain CNN posting up at Roger Stone's house before his arrest. They had to have been informed about the warrant prior which is illegal


I'm unclear if you misunderstood what I said or if you're trying to make a completely and totally irrelevant point.

If CNN was informed, the person who informed them could be in violation of the law. CNN did not violate any law. Are you trying to claim that CNN took the information illegally? If so I have no clue what your basis for that would be.

The_tall_midget posted...
OhhhJa posted...

Except for CNN right? They have the exclusive right to publish illegally obtained info? And also how do you explain CNN postingnup at Roger Stone's house before his arrest. They had to have been informed about the warrant prior which is illegal


"Believe all women... Except those accusing democrats."

"Journalists can't illegally obtain information... Except when they're pro left."

"Trump is a disgusting racist and xenophobe... Ilhan Omar is not."

"The problem in America are rich white men." -Bernie Sanders

"Illegal immigration is a crisis for our country. It is an open door for drugs, criminals, and potential terrorists to enter our country. It is straining our economy, adding costs to our judicial, healthcare, and education systems." -Obama *idiotic lefties applaud*

Trump says the same thing.

*Lefties screams their heads off that he's a disgusting racist and xenophobe*

Love the hypocritical left. A never ending supply of double standards.


This is literally nonsense.


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/01/raw-video-shows-cnn-colluded-with-fbi-to-film-roger-stone-swat-style-raid-and-arrest/

But lemme guess... you dont like the source?
BlackScythe0
04/14/19 3:56:19 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/01/raw-video-shows-cnn-colluded-with-fbi-to-film-roger-stone-swat-style-raid-and-arrest/

But lemme guess... you dont like the source?


Can't say I know that source.

But you still seem unclear on what I'm saying. If CNN stole the information about the raid themselves they commit a crime. If it is given to them by anyone CNN has not committed a crime. That is how it has been established in this country.
OhhhJa
04/14/19 4:06:50 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
OhhhJa posted...
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/01/raw-video-shows-cnn-colluded-with-fbi-to-film-roger-stone-swat-style-raid-and-arrest/

But lemme guess... you dont like the source?


Can't say I know that source.

But you still seem unclear on what I'm saying. If CNN stole the information about the raid themselves they commit a crime. If it is given to them by anyone CNN has not committed a crime. That is how it has been established in this country.

Do you not comprehend the level of corruption that is taking place? It's in front of your face. Out in the open
Ogurisama
04/14/19 4:11:32 PM
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BlackScythe0
04/14/19 4:11:46 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
OhhhJa posted...
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/01/raw-video-shows-cnn-colluded-with-fbi-to-film-roger-stone-swat-style-raid-and-arrest/

But lemme guess... you dont like the source?


Can't say I know that source.

But you still seem unclear on what I'm saying. If CNN stole the information about the raid themselves they commit a crime. If it is given to them by anyone CNN has not committed a crime. That is how it has been established in this country.

Do you not comprehend the level of corruption that is taking place? It's in front of your face. Out in the open


Do you not understand the part you quoted was indicating that he isn't being charged for legitimate journalism but actions of stealing information?

If he had only received information from Manning and quit there and published it there would be no legal justification for this.

That is what this thread is about. I legitimately am not sure what point you are trying to make or how it is related to this point. It's why we are having this disconnect because I was talking about this topic and clear issues of legality while you seem to be bringing up some winder ranging topic while leaving me unclear on what the relevance is.
Zeus
04/15/19 1:47:55 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Zeus posted...
3) And he didn't obtain it himself.


He stands accused of working to illegally obtain information for himself.


I'm sure they've tossed all kinds of bogus charges at him to shut down Wikileaks which has embarrassed the US intelligence community and military.

OhhhJa posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
Journalists have the right to publish illegally obtained information that is given to them. They do not have the right to illegally obtain information themselves.

Except for CNN right? They have the exclusive right to publish illegally obtained info? And also how do you explain CNN posting up at Roger Stone's house before his arrest. They had to have been informed about the warrant prior which is illegal


tbh, CNN is always doing flaky or shady shit.

BloodWhen_iWipe posted...
Must be why Dems almost universally called for Al Franken to step down and are now saying Biden should give up on any run for the presidency.

Meanwhile, Republicans rally behind people like Kavanaugh and Roy Moore, who have each had more serious accusations levied against them than Franken and Biden combined.

Note, I'm not defending anyone from either party here.


...so basically you're comparing a couple of Democrats who were *recorded* in the act of doing their shit to unprovable accusations against a couple of Republicans where the accusers couldn't even get certain details straight? Franken didn't just grope a sleeping woman, he had people take pictures. And then there are countless photos of Biden making unwanted advances. However, all that aside, Bill Clinton was accused of forcible rape and numerous incidents of sexual harassment and not only did he get elected president, but when he abused his office to take advantage of young women working for him, feminists rallied behind him and many *still* do.
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Valiant_Kaiser
04/15/19 5:05:48 AM
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He smelled like poo and got poo everywhere and was an ungracious guest. It was a matter of time.
SunWuKung420
04/15/19 7:57:06 AM
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Oh, zues is still all salt that Clinton didn't get impeached.

Trump's inevitable downfall will be glorious.
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