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Doom_Art
04/10/19 10:01:25 AM
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Well? Should he? - Results (48 votes)
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72.92% (35 votes)
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D

He shouldn't but he also shouldn't have stopped Red Hood or any other anti-hero from doing it

Nothing wrong with killing someone like the Joker, but I wouldn't trust Batman to do it and not become an obsessive freak about killing.

He'd be down to murdering pickpockets in a week.
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hyperpsycho
04/10/19 10:03:32 AM
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If he kills the Joker he'll become just like him!
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Hairistotle
04/10/19 10:03:38 AM
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Nah, Batman stories are more interesting when the Joker is around
ThyCorndog
04/10/19 10:03:58 AM
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he should and there's no reason he shouldn't
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Foppe
04/10/19 10:11:10 AM
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He was supposed to die in the first comic he appeared in, but they changed the last panel in the last minute.
Think how different everything would be if we didnt had had all these Joker stories.
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Kitt
04/10/19 10:13:37 AM
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Yes. Or at least let someone else do it (which he's stopped many times). Might as well come out and admit he's in love with the Joker or something. Really wouldn't surprise me at this point.

Plus Batman has killed many times in the past across different versions of himself. People who have done way less than Joker, so I doubt he would go on some killing spree after offing him.

Batman's just a pussy.
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EvalAngell
04/10/19 10:14:11 AM
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He does kill the Joker (though accidentally) in the Dark Knight Returns (Part 2) cartoon movie. He breaks his neck.
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Gobstoppers12
04/10/19 10:14:24 AM
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Logically, yes. Morally, no.

For the sake of their legendary rivalry? No. The Joker must live on.
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Sada_Pop
04/10/19 10:20:48 AM
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Yes. Even fucking boy scout Goku killed when there was no alternative option.

Joker just keeps killing and Batman is OK with it.
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nemu
04/10/19 10:23:16 AM
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Most of the villains should get an expedited death penalty. The whole asylum shit is dumb.
UnfairRepresent
04/10/19 10:24:23 AM
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No he shouldn't because it's his one rule and if he breaks it he'll become an insane freak and kill everyone yadda yadda

But someone else with balls should fucking step up. Someone like Red Hood or some cop or someone like Joe Chill should just cap The Joker when Batman's not looking
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UnfairRepresent
04/10/19 10:26:26 AM
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nemu posted...
Most of the villains should get an expedited death penalty. The whole asylum shit is dumb.

IMO they need to do more stories where the villains get rehabilitated for the Asylum to make sense.

I can only think of 2 and they are both the Batman TAS.

One with Harelyquinn when she is clearly still fucking insane and it doesn't work

And one with the Ventriloquist where he actually lives a normal life.

Problem with Arkham is that it seems to be shit so it makes no sense as a solution.
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Caution999
04/10/19 10:26:40 AM
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If he killed Joker, it would be the equivalent of Wile E Coyote killing the Road Runner. He would lose all purpose in his life.
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Kitt
04/10/19 10:27:20 AM
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I bet if Joker was put in the same situation as Ra's Al Ghul at the end of Batman Begins, fuckboy Batman would've actually saved him.
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UnfairRepresent
04/10/19 10:27:47 AM
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Kitt posted...
I bet if Joker was put in the same situation as Ra's Al Ghul at the end of Batman Begins, fuckboy Batman would've actually saved him.

Well yeah that's pretty much what happens in The Dark Knight
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awesome999
04/10/19 10:30:00 AM
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If I were Batman, I'd just have all his arms and legs as well as his tongue amputated! No killing and Joker's harmless like that!
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UnfairRepresent
04/10/19 10:39:18 AM
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awesome999 posted...
If I were Batman, I'd just have all his arms and legs as well as his tongue amputated! No killing and Joker's harmless like that!

Did you forget this is a comic book?

Now you're going to get Joker in a Giant Robot Suit or something
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Foppe
04/10/19 11:03:01 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
awesome999 posted...
If I were Batman, I'd just have all his arms and legs as well as his tongue amputated! No killing and Joker's harmless like that!

Did you forget this is a comic book?

Now you're going to get Joker in a Giant Robot Suit or something

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Zikten
04/10/19 11:04:38 AM
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In stories where he does, usually bad things end up happening
awesome999
04/10/19 11:10:27 AM
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If no amputation, then why not Phantom Zone, it was literally made for this!
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Mistere Man
04/10/19 11:52:24 AM
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No but I am surprised a rogue cop hasnt done it to save lives or just out of revenge.
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Zikten
04/10/19 11:59:27 AM
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Mistere Man posted...
No but I am surprised a rogue cop hasnt done it to save lives or just out of revenge.

realisticlly it would happen but Joker has plot armor
HBOSS
04/10/19 12:01:30 PM
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negaverse batman who laughs happened when he killed Joker right? been awhile...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSXHKx5rIgo" data-time="

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Zikten
04/10/19 12:09:23 PM
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HBOSS posted...
negaverse batman who laughs happened when he killed Joker right? been awhile...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSXHKx5rIgo" data-time="

yes. Joker had a toxin that released when he died. it makes your brain change to be like Joker's. Batman snapped Joker's neck and was holding him, so the toxin went right in him
Garioshi
04/10/19 12:19:00 PM
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How has the Joker never gotten the death penalty?
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Zikten
04/10/19 12:20:17 PM
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Garioshi posted...
How has the Joker never gotten the death penalty?

he's considered "sick". and they can't execute him. he has the insanity defense.
Kitt
04/10/19 12:22:52 PM
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The whole "Batman can't kill Joker or else he'll turn evil!" thing is so stupid, considering that he's killed plenty of times in the past.
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Foppe
04/10/19 12:44:42 PM
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Garioshi posted...
How has the Joker never gotten the death penalty?

He got it once for a murder he didnt do.
Batman saved him in the last minute.
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ThyCorndog
04/10/19 12:49:39 PM
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Foppe posted...
Garioshi posted...
How has the Joker never gotten the death penalty?

He got it once for a murder he didnt do.
Batman saved him in the last minute.

batman sounds like a villain at times
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fenderbender321
04/10/19 12:51:41 PM
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Batman should kill the Joker. And he should start using guns, too. Guns are so much more powerful than his fists or whatever stupid bullshit he has on his utility belt.
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Foppe
04/10/19 1:10:25 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...
Foppe posted...
Garioshi posted...
How has the Joker never gotten the death penalty?

He got it once for a murder he didnt do.
Batman saved him in the last minute.

batman sounds like a villain at times

Capturing the real killer is hightief villain stuff.
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BilalPowell
04/10/19 4:23:23 PM
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Should kill all the supervillains. All they do is go to jail then escape and kill innocent people. He's killing innocent people by letting murderers live.
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ThyCorndog
04/10/19 4:29:43 PM
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BilalPowell posted...
Should kill all the supervillains. All they do is go to jail then escape and kill innocent people. He's killing innocent people by letting murderers live.

this
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Rika_Furude
04/10/19 4:30:25 PM
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Batman shouldnt be capable of killing the joker. Joker is at his best when hes hyper competent and toying with batman
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creativerealms
04/10/19 4:31:49 PM
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He should receive the death penalty and no the insanity defense wouldn't apply. He knows exactly what he's doing.
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awesome999
04/10/19 10:46:00 PM
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Zikten posted...
Mistere Man posted...
No but I am surprised a rogue cop hasnt done it to save lives or just out of revenge.

realisticlly it would happen but Joker has plot armor

Tbf, so does batman!
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gguirao
04/13/19 4:45:57 AM
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C.
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Sativa_Rose
04/13/19 5:24:14 AM
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If you allow a supervillain to live over and over again, and that villain keeps going on to kill innocent people, you're an idiot.
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pegusus123456
04/13/19 5:27:00 AM
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EvalAngell posted...
He does kill the Joker (though accidentally) in the Dark Knight Returns (Part 2) cartoon movie. He breaks his neck.

He doesn't kill the Joker in that. I believe he breaks the Joker's neck on purpose, but his plan is just to paralyze him. The Joker finishes the job and kills himself to fuck with Batman.

UnfairRepresent posted...
nemu posted...
Most of the villains should get an expedited death penalty. The whole asylum shit is dumb.

IMO they need to do more stories where the villains get rehabilitated for the Asylum to make sense.

I can only think of 2 and they are both the Batman TAS.

One with Harelyquinn when she is clearly still fucking insane and it doesn't work

And one with the Ventriloquist where he actually lives a normal life.

Problem with Arkham is that it seems to be shit so it makes no sense as a solution.

Hell, in Arkham Asylum: Living Hell, the asylum actually drives a sane person completely insane and the normal, white-collar criminal becomes a supervillain.
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Total_Lost2
04/13/19 5:30:11 AM
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Batman keeping Joker alive seems more like a selfish reason than a logical one
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IHeartRadiation
04/13/19 11:31:41 PM
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The real problem is Batman stories doing too much while in one universe. It's easy to ignore a man dressing as a bat, but some mass-murdering lunatic who keeps breaking out of his cardboard prison only to be placed back by another lunatic vigilante, then it's going to start raising questions. The only lockup I think he'd be unable to escape from would be either Apokolips or Phantom Zone. He needs to either not be captured as often and spend much more time not doing anything / setting up or they should shift different realities much more often.
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ElatedVenusaur
04/13/19 11:37:25 PM
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Total_Lost2 posted...
Batman keeping Joker alive seems more like a selfish reason than a logical one

It's really this. IMO, Batman is at his most interesting when you explore the limitations he's imposed on himself and why.
For example, he doesn't kill because he's taken in by a slippery-slope fallacy: he believes he couldn't stop killing if he starts and thus can't kill the Joker even though, objectively speaking, Gotham's justice system is not capable of stopping the Joker(Under The Red Hood is pretty much the definitive treatment of this. Enough good cannot be said of that flick, honestly). Batman is in part driven by the (usually irrational) fear that he, himself, is just like the people who populate his rogue's gallery.
garan
04/15/19 5:21:33 PM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
If you allow a supervillain to live over and over again, and that villain keeps going on to kill innocent people, you're an idiot.


This. It's why I can't take Batman fanatics seriously.
Foppe
04/15/19 5:23:08 PM
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Why wont any of you want more Joker stories?
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Compsognathus
04/15/19 5:41:54 PM
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Like if I were a person who lived in Gotham City? Hard C. I'm normally not one for people unilaterally taking justice into their own hands, but law enforcement and the criminal justice system have proven woefully inadequate at handling the Joker and countless people have died for it.

From the perspective of a reader. No. Batman's code is part of what makes the character and the Joker is too significant a bad guy to kill off.
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