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Steiner
04/09/19 3:48:10 PM
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So, who you booking Kofi against?
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ninkendo
04/09/19 3:48:57 PM
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Steiner
04/09/19 3:49:22 PM
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https://twitter.com/VelveteenWWE/status/1115684863389122561?s=19

Give me Big Match Buddy at NXT I'm all for it
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Lopen
04/09/19 3:51:33 PM
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Peyton and Billie vs Kofi in a handicap match to recognize the pre 2016 women's title as a world title
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PrivateBiscuit1
04/09/19 3:52:45 PM
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Lopen posted...
Peyton and Billie vs Kofi in a handicap match to recognize the pre 2016 women's title as a world title

Speaking of, what does everyone think about the Iconics?
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ninkendo
04/09/19 3:54:46 PM
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I think they're great sports entertainers

did you see how they dressed as the demon goddesses that Finn Balor prays to during their WM entrance?
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Espeon
04/09/19 3:54:48 PM
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Steiner posted...
If you think Liv Morgan and The Other One would be more legit tag champs than Sasha and Bayley I dunno where to even take this


Not NOW, obviously. The problem is that WWE has these three heel teams, but up until the rumble, there was no womens tag division. Since none of the women in these teams really got a chance to shine on her own, they were basically used to job out to dominant heels, or to give baby faces a challenge to overcome. But now there IS a tag division for these groups to flourish in, and all of them are gonna look weak next to teams with established main eventers.

I guess WWE should just repair some of the preemptive damage they did to the division. They couldve started by, I dunno, NOT having the Riott Squad job to the main event trio in two straight weeks of RAW.
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PrivateBiscuit1
04/09/19 3:56:32 PM
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ninkendo posted...
I think they're great sports entertainers

did you see how they dressed as the demon goddesses that Finn Balor prays to during their WM entrance?

I did see that. That was pretty cool.

I heard a rumour that Bray Wyatt's Sister Abigail was actually two women named Abi and Gail, and they will be revealed as the Iconics's pseudonym after he returns.
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TheRock1525
04/09/19 3:56:57 PM
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The correct answer is Orton.
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Steiner
04/09/19 3:57:50 PM
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TheRock1525 posted...
The correct answer is Orton.


He just lost at Mania! I like Orton as a challenger at some point though because they have the history
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TheRock1525
04/09/19 3:58:42 PM
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And AJ lost at WM then immediately challenged for the world title. And had some damn good matches with Roman.
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Steiner
04/09/19 3:59:55 PM
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Sheamus is out there on Twitter campaigning for Cesaro's singles push and while they have a beatable champ like Kofi I'd love to see it at some point

I guess it's probably someone switching brands cause I don't see any good heels for it on Smackdown
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Lopen
04/09/19 4:00:38 PM
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Honestly AJ Styles vs Kofi works especially if you wanna turn AJ heel. AJ was patronizing him in the gauntlet so it's an easy feud foundation there and you either get champion heel AJ which is good or Kofi has beaten the most credible guy on SD and has a good start for his title run
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TheRock1525
04/09/19 4:01:03 PM
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AJ has a hip injury.
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Jakyl25
04/09/19 4:01:48 PM
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And a hipness injury
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RaidenGarai
04/09/19 4:01:56 PM
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
ninkendo posted...
I think they're great sports entertainers

did you see how they dressed as the demon goddesses that Finn Balor prays to during their WM entrance?

I did see that. That was pretty cool.

I heard a rumour that Bray Wyatt's Sister Abigail was actually two women named Abi and Gail, and they will be revealed as the Iconics's pseudonym after he returns.


I would love this so much
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Lopen
04/09/19 4:02:53 PM
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Does he? Sucks, Well obviously Bryan return match comes first because it always does

Surely AJ will recover in a month
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PrivateBiscuit1
04/09/19 4:03:17 PM
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Yeah, AJ is going to be out for a while, most likely.

And I think it would be incredible if Sheamus would give similar impassioned speeches to Vince and stuff about how Cesaro deserves these title opportunities, but in a much more tongue and cheek way than New Day did, and Cesaro just looks sad but determined and Vince just hands Cesaro a title shot.
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Steiner
04/09/19 4:05:01 PM
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https://twitter.com/thesuperjcast/status/1115411340342915072?s=19

That Tama Tonga babyface turn finally coming through
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ScareChan
04/09/19 4:19:51 PM
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Mwc post about the topic going out on it's back was a great post and you guy should thank me for it
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Steiner
04/09/19 4:22:52 PM
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MWC and Lopen both did great work to get that topic over in a day so we can be done with hardcore til Summerslam

I'll try my best anyway
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ScareChan
04/09/19 4:26:41 PM
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I thought mwc made some good points

But I do feel like the origin point for a world title can be based on a situation. I do feel that thr womens belts should be world titles now, but I dont think it should extend back to the brand split

Like with the new ecw we had a clear cutoff point where Vince had it and it stopped being recognized as world . This can be a clear spot where they are recognized
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Eddv
04/09/19 4:30:28 PM
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Heel Kevin Owens obviously.
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Steiner
04/09/19 4:31:37 PM
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Eddv posted...
Heel Kevin Owens obviously.


I don't even know whether to be mad at this
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Lopen
04/09/19 4:40:24 PM
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ScareChan posted...
I thought mwc made some good points

But I do feel like the origin point for a world title can be based on a situation. I do feel that thr womens belts should be world titles now, but I dont think it should extend back to the brand split

Like with the new ecw we had a clear cutoff point where Vince had it and it stopped being recognized as world . This can be a clear spot where they are recognized


Mostly agree with this. But with the caveat that I don't feel the women's titles are world titles yet and they still need to earn it by being consistently booked at a high level for more than a couple of months.

Saying the IC Title was a world title was just a sort of devil's advocate thing. I don't think it was one either back then, but in terms of prestige it was closer to one than the women's titles are now.

I also feel yes the old women's title should logically have a consistent lineage with the Raw Women's title right now because it morphed into that through unifications and renames
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ScareChan
04/09/19 4:47:46 PM
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I would say evolution was the beginning of making the womens title world titles and that mania was the culmination

You could go back to whenever Becky broke her face as the start of the build but evolution seems like a fine starting point to me
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Lopen
04/09/19 4:52:12 PM
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I will agree with you if they get say 4 main events on the year. That's undershooting what they're due if they're truly on the same level as the Universal and World titles but variance y'know-- that'll put it into benefit of a doubt territory.

(I'm expecting it to be 2, Mania and Evolution and that's it, but we'll see)
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PrivateBiscuit1
04/09/19 5:01:26 PM
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Lopen posted...
I will agree with you if they get say 4 main events on the year. That's undershooting what they're due if they're truly on the same level as the Universal and World titles but variance y'know-- that'll put it into benefit of a doubt territory.

(I'm expecting it to be 2, Mania and Evolution and that's it, but we'll see)

I don't necessarily disagree, but this is the same company that had a main event 0 stakes whatsoever Roman vs Samoa Joe match. I don't know if that's a good barometer.
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Lopen
04/09/19 5:05:05 PM
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That's part of the reason I'm giving some margin because I'm sure you'll have some wackiness in there.

I mean with one already in the books and Evolution guaranteed I don't think 2 more on the year is unreasonable to expect from a set of two main event level titles
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PrivateBiscuit1
04/09/19 5:12:40 PM
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So uh, apparently WWE and the Wendy Williams Shoe is actually very upset at Sasha Banks for missing Wendy Williams show, which I don't think they would be if something serious happened like her getting surgery.

So is Sasha just being a diva?
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Eddv
04/09/19 5:15:46 PM
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
So uh, apparently WWE and the Wendy Williams Shoe is actually very upset at Sasha Banks for missing Wendy Williams show, which I don't think they would be if something serious happened like her getting surgery.

So is Sasha just being a diva?


Well. Speculation was on there being backstage issues because Sasha used a commondepression # and then so did Beth
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HashtagSEP
04/09/19 5:20:31 PM
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Banks had that weird tweet about wanting "magic" instead of "normal" and then had a Twitter exchange with Bliss that ended with Bliss saying she was sick of her petty shit or whatever and blocking her, so who knows.
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PrivateBiscuit1
04/09/19 5:21:34 PM
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I wonder if they wanted Sasha to lose to Alexa and since Sasha hates Alexa that has something to do with it, so they ended up with Bayley taking the fall instead.
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HashtagSEP
04/09/19 5:23:24 PM
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Also

An insider said, She wont be booked again. She didnt give a real reason for canceling, and she did it only hours before the show tapes, so production was left scrambling to fill her spot. Wendy ended up doing an extra segment of Hot Topics instead.


Ouch. That is not a way to go about it.
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Whiskey_Nick
04/09/19 5:28:29 PM
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Kofi vs Shane

obv
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paulg235
04/09/19 5:31:04 PM
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Steiner posted...
Eddv posted...
Heel Kevin Owens obviously.


I don't even know whether to be mad at this

I would like to see how a face Kevin Owens would work for a few more months, but I probably wouldn't have any issue should they turn him for a feud against Kofi given how he missed out Mania and was originally poised to challenge Bryan until the Ali injury.
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paulg235
04/09/19 5:32:44 PM
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Whiskey_Nick posted...
Kofi vs Shane

obv

But this is the direction I expect them to go, and honestly, I have interest in Shane having a run with the belt.

Wouldn't becoming WWE champ make him the first WWE champion whose father also won the belt?
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ScareChan
04/09/19 5:35:07 PM
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EmDubyaSee
04/09/19 6:11:13 PM
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paulg235 posted...
Whiskey_Nick posted...
Kofi vs Shane

obv

But this is the direction I expect them to go, and honestly, I have interest in Shane having a run with the belt.

Wouldn't becoming WWE champ make him the first WWE champion whose father also won the belt?


Unless the Von Erichs did it, I also think it would make them the first ever no asterisk whatsoever World Champion Son and Father in history (The NWA current being a World Title is shaky for some people. I think it is, but enough dont go where its an asterisk)
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Whiskey_Nick
04/09/19 6:13:36 PM
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pretty sure Andre the Giant is Big Show's dad in canon

pretty sure they also buried him 7 years after he died and Big Show rode his coffin
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EmDubyaSee
04/09/19 6:18:51 PM
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Whiskey_Nick posted...
pretty sure Andre the Giant is Big Show's dad in canon

pretty sure they also buried him 7 years after he died and Big Show rode his coffin


I mean... the asterisk in that case would probably be that he wasnt his father in real life then.... just kayfabe.
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Whiskey_Nick
04/09/19 6:20:12 PM
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i was gonna say Flair and son, but he was somehow never WCW champ in an era where Russo and Arquette were
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Eddv
04/09/19 7:01:22 PM
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Flair and Daughter duh
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PrivateBiscuit1
04/09/19 7:04:03 PM
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Dasha Fuentes was released.

I remember her forever having no personality whatsoever and then being in a single episode of Up Up Down Down and having a ton of personality and feeling bad for her.

So yeah. They probably have too many of them now and had to get rid of one robotic interviewer.
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EmDubyaSee
04/09/19 7:04:33 PM
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Eddv posted...
Flair and Daughter duh


Well yeah. They are obviously and unquestionably the only ever (so far, Hunters are coming) Father and Daughter World Champion pair.
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PrivateBiscuit1
04/09/19 7:05:35 PM
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Also, this RAW after Mania got 1 million less people than last year.

That is alarmingly bad.
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Eddv
04/09/19 7:07:42 PM
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Let me think about this.

Did Cody really never have even a cup of coffee with the WHC? I mean fucking Ziggler did so I just assume every midcard guy got a run at that time but I guess he didnt.
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KommunistKoala
04/09/19 7:10:03 PM
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Also, this RAW after Mania got 1 million less people than last year.

That is alarmingly bad.

does the raw after mania always share the night with the college basketball championship? honestly asking
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StealThisSheen
04/09/19 7:12:20 PM
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KommunistKoala posted...
PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Also, this RAW after Mania got 1 million less people than last year.

That is alarmingly bad.

does the raw after mania always share the night with the college basketball championship? honestly asking


"The audience was up 12 percent from last week's show. Last year, the Raw after Mania beat the Raw before Mania by 17 percent, but last year the NCAA finals went against the Raw before Mania."

This seems relevant
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04/09/19 7:14:39 PM
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