Board 8 > Anime and Manga Topic 213: The Promised Next Topic

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Mac Arrowny
04/15/19 12:22:55 PM
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Reg posted...
profDEADPOOL posted...
Manga readers think Chika is way overrated

(Specifically by anime-only people who watched the ED dance and started hailing her as the greatest thing since sliced bread)


Yeah, people voting based on manga is another reason Reddit contests suck
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profDEADPOOL
04/15/19 12:29:27 PM
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swordz9 posted...
I met 3 of what Im assuming are the 5 main characters in the series and only cared about 1 of them. I mean there could be other decent ones in it, but theres no reason to continue if you dont care about either of the 2 main characters. They arent even bad. Theyre just somehow incredibly boring despite all the narration and mind games.

3/4 tbh. Ishigami is the only one you didn't.
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pjbasis
04/15/19 12:46:33 PM
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Is it weird that I can't say I ever care about characters?

At no point have I ever felt like I liked or didn't like a show because of care for characters. The story is either well written or not, and that's basically the extent to what I feel about the characters.
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Reg
04/15/19 12:46:37 PM
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Mac Arrowny posted...
Reg posted...
profDEADPOOL posted...
Manga readers think Chika is way overrated

(Specifically by anime-only people who watched the ED dance and started hailing her as the greatest thing since sliced bread)


Yeah, people voting based on manga is another reason Reddit contests suck

I give precisely zero shits about Reddit, but yeah I can agree that voting based on manga for explicit anime contests is silly as long as you can agree people voting based on memes in the same context is also silly <_<
GranzonEx
04/15/19 12:48:37 PM
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pjbasis posted...
Is it weird that I can't say I ever care about characters?

At no point have I ever felt like I liked or didn't like a show because of care for characters. The story is either well written or not, and that's basically the extent to what I feel about the characters.

I'm the same. It has to be the whole package. Doesn't matter how good a small part is, whether it's a character or the art or the VA, if the whole thing is mediocre I can't force myself to watch it.
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Reg
04/15/19 12:53:24 PM
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pjbasis posted...
Is it weird that I can't say I ever care about characters?

At no point have I ever felt like I liked or didn't like a show because of care for characters. The story is either well written or not, and that's basically the extent to what I feel about the characters.

I feel almost exactly the opposite. Good characters can single-handedly carry a bad/nonexistent story, or make a good one legitimately great. But the rest of the story has to be something incredible to make me overlook bad characters.
profDEADPOOL
04/15/19 12:54:30 PM
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Reg posted...
pjbasis posted...
Is it weird that I can't say I ever care about characters?

At no point have I ever felt like I liked or didn't like a show because of care for characters. The story is either well written or not, and that's basically the extent to what I feel about the characters.

I feel almost exactly the opposite. Good characters can single-handedly carry a bad/nonexistent story, or make a good one legitimately great. But the rest of the story has to be something incredible to make me overlook bad characters.

This is my view also. Good chars are what interests me most in fictional media. But everyone has their own preferences.

EDIT: By good I mean chars that entertain me.
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pjbasis
04/15/19 12:56:23 PM
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Reg posted...
Good characters can single-handedly carry a bad/nonexistent story,


It's more like I can't even imagine what could make this true.

If the characters are good, surely the story would be too. What's an example?
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Mac Arrowny
04/15/19 12:56:58 PM
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pjbasis posted...
Is it weird that I can't say I ever care about characters?

At no point have I ever felt like I liked or didn't like a show because of care for characters. The story is either well written or not, and that's basically the extent to what I feel about the characters.


I assume most people on this board care about characters since it was originally a board for best character contests <_<
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Reg
04/15/19 12:57:12 PM
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profDEADPOOL posted...
EDIT: By good I mean chars that entertain me.

Oh yeah this is important. I'm using 'good' to mean entertaining/likable here too, not objectively/critically.
swordz9
04/15/19 12:57:13 PM
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The whole package matters, but characters are important. I mean something can have a great plot, but if all the characters suck why would you even bother watching/reading it?
Mac Arrowny
04/15/19 12:57:37 PM
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pjbasis posted...
Reg posted...
Good characters can single-handedly carry a bad/nonexistent story,


It's more like I can't even imagine what could make this true.

If the characters are good, surely the story would be too. What's an example?


Big O has awesome characters and terrible story.
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Reg
04/15/19 12:59:00 PM
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pjbasis posted...
Reg posted...
Good characters can single-handedly carry a bad/nonexistent story,


It's more like I can't even imagine what could make this true.

If the characters are good, surely the story would be too. What's an example?

Konosuba is the first one to come to mind.

Alternatively, the entire fucking Slice of Life genre?
profDEADPOOL
04/15/19 1:00:29 PM
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pjbasis posted...
Reg posted...
Good characters can single-handedly carry a bad/nonexistent story,


It's more like I can't even imagine what could make this true.

If the characters are good, surely the story would be too. What's an example?

I mean I'm still watching GOT because of how I enjoy specific chars in it, despite the plot being really shitty at this point imo.

And yes that's not an anime but... it's what jumps to mind as an example atm(prolly cause I'm literally watching it right now)

EDIT: Konosuba is a wonderful example. I have no fucking idea what the story in it is, I just remember my love for the characters.
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Reg
04/15/19 1:01:07 PM
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Like, if you take characters out of the picture, Konosuba's plot is literally the most trashy, generic isekai imaginable. Every single good thing about it is driven entirely by its characters.
pjbasis
04/15/19 1:01:30 PM
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Mac Arrowny posted...
I assume most people on this board care about characters since it was originally a board for best character contests <_<


Nah that's a misunderstanding. I care about characters in the same way I care about art and music and shit. They're tools used by the story. I care a lot about Squall because I felt like his story was good. I don't think the story was good because I liked Squall though.
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pjbasis
04/15/19 1:03:46 PM
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Reg posted...
Alternatively, the entire fucking Slice of Life genre?


I don't have a lot of experience here, but I would say the worthwhile entries in this genre are also telling a story. It doesn't have to be a complex plot, it just needs something meaningful to say.
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GranzonEx
04/15/19 1:04:18 PM
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Konosuba is good because 3/4 of the cast is good. I merely tolerate the mage.
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swordz9
04/15/19 1:04:19 PM
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I feel thats a rough opinion because I cant separate my dislike of a character from their story. If I dont like a character I dont like their story
Bane_Of_Despair
04/15/19 1:12:22 PM
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It depends on the story I think. If what's supposed to make up part of the story is a character/characters growth and whatever and I don't like that character/characters, then that story isn't gonna do much for me because at least part of its focus is on something I don't like.
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LapisLazuli
04/15/19 1:49:44 PM
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I am far and away on the side of characters being more important than story.

GranzonEx posted...
Konosuba is good because 3/4 of the cast is good. I merely tolerate the mage.


YA...YAMEROOOOO!
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Popcorn_Fairy
04/15/19 1:54:26 PM
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The only character in Konosuba I thought was dece was the Explosion Mage, the rest I didn't like in the slightest. Watched Season 1, have no intentions of ever watching season 2.
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profDEADPOOL
04/15/19 2:14:31 PM
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How shitty can one person's taste be jesus.
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pyresword
04/15/19 2:26:51 PM
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I thought Konosuba was passable but there's plenty of better comedies out there imo.
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LapisLazuli
04/15/19 2:30:37 PM
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I don't think any anime is funnier than Konosuba.

Maybe Asobi Asobase.

But that's just my kind of comedy.
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Popcorn_Fairy
04/15/19 2:32:40 PM
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I stand by Grand Blue being one of the funniest shows I've ever seen. I don't think I've ever laughed as hard as I was in Grand Blue.
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LapisLazuli
04/15/19 2:34:19 PM
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Somehow I knew Grand Blue was gonna come up, what with that being a staple for me as something that completely failed to be even remotely funny <_<
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Mac Arrowny
04/15/19 2:34:51 PM
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Grand Blue's definitely a show that's ruined by every character sucking.
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pyresword
04/15/19 2:34:58 PM
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Personally the funniest anime I've seen is Carnival Phantasm but I don't think I've ever seen anybody else share that opinion >.>
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LapisLazuli
04/15/19 2:36:00 PM
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pyresword posted...
Personally the funniest anime I've seen is Carnival Phantasm but I don't think I've ever seen anybody else share that opinion >.>


I mean...the OP is good...
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Popcorn_Fairy
04/15/19 2:36:22 PM
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LapisLazuli posted...
Somehow I knew Grand Blue was gonna come up, what with that being a staple for me as something that completely failed to be even remotely funny <_<


But that's humor for you. One person's kind of humor won't always translate to another. Like, Konosuba fell flat on me completely, but Grand Blue was so goddamn hysterical for me.

Mac Arrowny posted...
Grand Blue's definitely a show that's ruined by every character sucking.


I loved all of them.
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swordz9
04/15/19 2:37:07 PM
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Cinderella 9 - cute, but not much baseball in ep1. There was even a montage which makes me worried for the budget. Wasnt quite as great as I hoped, but there are so few all girls sports series that Ill practically take what I can get >_>
Sheep007
04/15/19 4:53:24 PM
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Saiki is probably the funniest I've seen. Gintama (or the little way through of it I've gotten) is great too, with Nichibros and Asobi Asobase up there. Honourable mention to Mob for not being a comedy yet still being hilarious. Grand Blue was mediocre, imo. Just couldn't get into it.
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LapisLazuli
04/15/19 4:57:10 PM
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Mob is probably the loudest I've laughed in a while after a few scenes in particular.

*late Mob S2 spoilers*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkQRTxskQqw" data-time="

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swordz9
04/15/19 5:37:05 PM
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I wanna say Sket Dance or Sabagebu was the last anime I laughed a ton during, but I could be forgetting something
pyresword
04/15/19 11:13:52 PM
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pyresword posted...
...I actually can't pick a best girl right now because I honestly like all of them. Itsuki--while still pretty good--is probably the worst, but beyond that I don't know. (Which is unfortunate because Itsuki is the one the MC saw first which means there is literally zero chance of any other character being the victor...)

Just so everyone knows, I figured out who the best girl is and it's Nino.
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profDEADPOOL
04/15/19 11:18:36 PM
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pyresword posted...
pyresword posted...
...I actually can't pick a best girl right now because I honestly like all of them. Itsuki--while still pretty good--is probably the worst, but beyond that I don't know. (Which is unfortunate because Itsuki is the one the MC saw first which means there is literally zero chance of any other character being the victor...)

Just so everyone knows, I figured out who the best girl is and it's Nino.

Well having the second best as the best isn't that bad
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pyresword
04/15/19 11:20:33 PM
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Nino > Ichika > Miku > Yotsuba >>>>>>>> Itsuki

For the record.
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profDEADPOOL
04/15/19 11:22:26 PM
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Miku>Nino>Ichika>Yotsuba>>>Itsuki at anime end.

Manga is Miku>Nino>Yotsuba>>>Itsuki>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ichika
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pyresword
04/15/19 11:25:06 PM
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Well one thing I was gonna say is that Ichika would definitely be lower if she weren't voiced by KanaHana.

Idk if that's what you mean or if you mean that Ichika gets some "quality" development that happens after the end of the anime
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profDEADPOOL
04/16/19 12:57:08 AM
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pyresword posted...
Well one thing I was gonna say is that Ichika would definitely be lower if she weren't voiced by KanaHana.

Idk if that's what you mean or if you mean that Ichika gets some "quality" development that happens after the end of the anime

By manga I meant I ranked them from how they are and how they are acting in the manga right now, while the anime ranking was how I ranked them when I was at the place the anime ended when I was reading the manga. Nothing to do with anime having VA's or anime having slightly different designs.
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handsomeboy2012
04/16/19 1:23:25 AM
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I have been an Itsuki fan for a while and will die on this hill.
Dont care if shes about the least popular one.
Sheep007
04/16/19 4:43:27 AM
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profDEADPOOL posted...
Miku>Nino>Ichika>Yotsuba>>>Itsuki at anime end.

Manga is Miku>Nino>Yotsuba>>>Itsuki>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ichika

At least Ichika has more of a personality than Itsuki even if she is a backstabbing snake

Also Yotsuba > Nino but not by much

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ninkendo
04/16/19 1:48:40 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43b6ehYHwnU" data-time="


I kinda love how it doesn't fit at all it's the kind of ED I would expect to find in a slice of life anime
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ninkendo
04/16/19 1:52:55 PM
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swordz9
04/16/19 2:24:56 PM
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Xiahou Shake
04/16/19 3:00:05 PM
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swordz9 posted...
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2019-04-16/lupin-iii-creator-monkey-punch-passes-away/.145797

Holy hell this sucks, RIP.

Can't begin to say how much joy the Lupin franchise has brought me through my teen years and even in adulthood with some of the more recent movies, OVAs and series. Will forever love Monkey Punch for bringing such a great cast of characters into the world.
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LapisLazuli
04/16/19 3:10:03 PM
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I really need to get on those new Lupins.
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Xiahou Shake
04/16/19 3:14:01 PM
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LapisLazuli posted...
I really need to get on those new Lupins.

Can't speak for the very latest one, but the 2015 series is some of the best content the franchise has ever had. Can definitely recommend it!
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LapisLazuli
04/16/19 3:15:04 PM
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It's just the same as the Netflix situation where it doesn't get simulcasted so I don't ever get to it.

Only the one to blame this time is...France...
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