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Underleveled
04/14/19 1:11:27 PM
#151:


eaedwards6400 posted...
One more thought I had:

Since I would assume that more than half the cast us getting higher than normal appearance fees, do you think the prize would be bigger?

No. Unless they decide to raise the prize for all future seasons, which honestly they probably should. Nick's million doesn't buy remotely what Richard's million bought. Heck, it doesn't buy remotely what Kim's million bought. They are long overdue for a raised reward.

Or they do some sort of twist like TAR21 did where the team that won the first leg was eligible for $2 million if they won the season.

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eaedwards6400
04/14/19 1:32:20 PM
#152:


So winner rankdown for this offseason? I'll run it.
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Centurion
04/14/19 2:03:06 PM
#153:


Will be so awesome to see Kim Spradlin back. Would she be able to dominate the game again as she did in One World? Plus we would finally see some old-school female winners back, like Vecepia and Danni (finally a returnee from Guatemala!). Will also be great to have Michele Fitz back - screw Probst!

I could see JT having an insane rollercoaster of a 4-season story arc. Of course, the legend Hatch has to be back as well. Will be great to see a really underappreciated winner like Earl back as well. Plus I hope that Tony Vlachos will be serious this time, lol.

So many possibilities!

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Underleveled
04/14/19 2:11:12 PM
#154:


Tony being serious is like, worst case scenario. The whole reason he's such a great character is because he is so erratic and cartoony and part of the greatness of Cagayan is the novelty that someone who plays like that actually won.

Do you really think CBS would put Hatch back on the show now in the wake of all the sexual harassment/assault stories in the news considering what happened in All-Stars?

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Underleveled
04/14/19 2:27:27 PM
#155:


Because I love doing things like this, here's how old each winner is today:

Richard - 58
Tina - 58
Ethan - 45
Vecepia - 53
Brian - 51
Jenna - 38
Sandra - 44
Amber - 40
Chris - 48
Tom - 55
Danni - 43
Aras - 37
Yul - 44
Earl - 48
Todd - 34
Parvati - 36
Bob - 68
JT - 34
Natalie W - 35
Fabio - 29
Rob - 43
Sophie - 29
Kim - 36
Denise - 48
Cochran - 32
Tyson - 39
Tony - 45
Natalie A - 33
Mike - 42
Jeremy - 40
Michele - 28
Adam - 28
Sarah - 34
Ben - 36
Wendell - 35
Nick - 28

Some of these really warp my perception of time, like Ethan and Denise being so close in age, or Jenna and Wendell.

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Centurion
04/14/19 2:36:16 PM
#156:


Of course, I don't want that kind of Tony. I meant "serious" as in "not wanting to throw his game in the first episode" like in Game Changers.

Also, that's a good point about Hatch. I just can't see them wanting to follow through with this and not bringing him back, though.

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eaedwards6400
04/14/19 3:59:08 PM
#157:


I think they likely take a chance on Hatch. Someone from those first 3 seasons has to be there in my opinion.

Also, wow, would this replace Second Chance on highest average age or am I remembering it wrong and Nicaragua is still the highest average?

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bwburke94
04/14/19 5:39:08 PM
#158:


Getting away from the spoiler topic for now, do we have any confirmation on how this coming week's double boot will work?
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The Mana Sword
04/14/19 5:52:56 PM
#159:


The episode description says two tribals in one hour, so I assume Ill just be two rushed episodes crammed into one like we used to get.
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eaedwards6400
04/14/19 7:38:59 PM
#160:


I'm kind of hoping for the GI twist just so it doesnt feel as jammed
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The Mana Sword
04/15/19 9:57:07 AM
#161:


I see Peridiam is finally making that RHAP debut
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Peridiam
04/15/19 11:53:28 AM
#162:


actually it's my evil twin brother per-diam
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CoolCly
04/15/19 12:46:26 PM
#163:


Where?
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eaedwards6400
04/15/19 1:04:37 PM
#164:


The Mana Sword posted...
I see Peridiam is finally making that RHAP debut


Which one? I didn't see him on the lineup.
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The Mana Sword
04/15/19 1:15:05 PM
#165:


He's scheduled to be on the B&B next week.
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GTM
04/15/19 1:21:18 PM
#166:


Oh my god

It and the know it alls are the 2 podcasts i listen to cause bbcan7 dailies
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GTM
04/15/19 1:27:28 PM
#167:


I am so hyped for this peridiam need all the 69s and buttchunks
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eaedwards6400
04/15/19 2:37:24 PM
#168:


The B&B is the only one I don't listen to... It's not my kind of humor. That being said, I will put that aside to hear Peridiam!
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eaedwards6400
04/15/19 2:52:01 PM
#169:


More thoughts on season 40 stuff:

So I was trying to crunch the numbers on this season and I really wonder if they will be forced to go 18 players or lower or uneven gender split. While 20 is probably ideal for them and very easy on the men's side, on the women's side getting 10/14 women on the season is going to be difficult.

Especially when you throw in the fact that:
-V and Natalie White are completely off the map.
-Parvati just had a baby recently.
-I doubt they can get both Rob AND Amber out there because they have 4 kids (I'm saying to get Amber they would probably lose Rob and they would likely want him more).
-Tina is almost 60 (!!)
-Jenna had some legal trouble this year.
-I think Kim has several kids too.

Now, I am sure money can make some of those problems go away / not worry about Tina's age but it really comes back to the fact that can they get 9 women to play? They almost need to pray that a woman wins season 38 and season 39. So they have two more women eligible.

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eaedwards6400
04/15/19 3:30:27 PM
#170:



So I spent a little too much brain power on Season 40 today:
Male Winners
Richard Hatch (S1)
Ethan Zohn (S3)
Brian Heidik (S5)
Chris Daugherty (S9)
Tom Westman (S10)
Aras Baskauskas (S12)
Yul Kwon (S13)
Earl Cole (S14)
Todd Herzog (S15)
Bob Crowley (S17)
J.T. Thomas (S18)
Judd Fabio Birza (S21)
Boston Rob Mariano (S22)
John Cochran (S26)
Tyson Apostol (S27)
Tony Vlachos (S28)
Mike Holloway (S30)
Jeremy Collins (S31)
Adam Klien (S33)
Ben Driebergen (S35)
Wendell Holand (S36)
Nick Wilson (S37)

Female Winners
Tina Weason (S2)
Vecepia Towery (S4)
Jenna Morasca (S6)
Sandra Diaz-Twine (S7-S20)
Amber Brkich-Mariano (S8)
Danni Boatwright (S11)
Parvati Shallow (S16)
Natalie White (S19)
Sophie Clarke (S23)
Kim Spradlin (S24)
Denise Stapley (S25)
Natalie Anderson (S29)
Michele Fitzgerald (S32)
Sarah Lacina (S34)

My Wants
Women:
Natalie Anderson
Sandra Diaz-Twine
Kim Spradlin
Denise Stapely
Parvati Shallow
Tina Weason
Sarah Lacina
Michele Fitzgerald
Sophie Clarke
Danni Boatwright

Men:
Richard Hatch
Chris Daugherty
Tom Westman
Yul Kwon
Earl Cole
Todd Herzog
JT Thomas
Tyson Apostol
Tony Vlachos
Jeremy Collins

Survivor Wants
Women:

Natalie Anderson
Parvati Shallow
Sandra-Diaz Twine
Denise Stapley
Amber Brkich-Mariano
Michele Fitzgerald
Danni Boatwright
Kim Spradlin
Sarah Lacina
S38/S39 Winner (if a woman)
Alternate
Sophie Clarke

I recall hearing Jeff didnt like Sophie so if he can not have her and have S38/S39 woman I think he would. I also dont think theyll get Amber and unless S39 is also a woman that is how Sophie gets on in a similar fashion as Andrew Savage. But I have it listed as what I have because this is the What Survivor Wants List

I have Natalie Anderson in the number one spot because she covers everything they need for diversity casting for the women.

Men:
Richard Hatch
Rob Mariano
John Cochran
Yul Kwon
Earl Cole
Tyson Apostol
Tony Vlachos
Jeremy Collins
Wendell Holand
Nick Wilson/S39 Winner (if Male)

Alternate
Adam Klien
JT Thomas
Mike Holloway

The men feel like a lock if they can get them for survivor. A surprising amount of diversity, a surprising amount of spread through the 40 seasons. I would just note that I think there are names on this list that would reject them. Especially in Rob, Hatch, and Cochran. But if Jeff can have that moment where he says something like It is almost hard to believe that I have our first winner and our most recent winner on the same beach WOW! then he would.

I have Hatch at number one. If they are making Jeff do this because in recent readings it did not look like he wanted to, then he is going to get the first winner on this season so he can make all the comments he wants about how the game has changed and not from someone as apparently bland as Kelly Wigglesworth.

Who I want vs who Survivor wants on the mens side difference is HUGE and could end up disappointing but at the same time some of the winners I had on my list dont think want to play/Survivor doesnt want them to play.

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bwburke94
04/15/19 5:22:26 PM
#171:


S39 won't have an officially known winner at the time S40 films, so the S39 winner can't possibly play S40 if it's an all-winners season.
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eaedwards6400
04/15/19 5:32:03 PM
#172:


bwburke94 posted...
S39 won't have an officially known winner at the time S40 films, so the S39 winner can't possibly play S40 if it's an all-winners season.


I mean, they have the power to know
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CoolCly
04/15/19 5:44:31 PM
#173:


i also agree they have the power to know. If they think it's worthwhile, they can just do it. They had Russell play before Samoa finale aired his FTC performance, and while I don't think he knew the result when he played HvV, this does set precedent they are willing to be flexible on this. Dunno if there are other examples of this.
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GTM
04/15/19 6:51:51 PM
#174:



Russell on hvh didnt spoil the winner though. It just meant we knew he was villainous. Couldve been premerge like michaela for all we knew

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Underleveled
04/15/19 7:51:20 PM
#175:


Yeah there is a big difference between ambiguously putting a finalist in a subsequent season and outright putting someone on an all winners season. They know that the cast will be spoiled right away, which will spoil 39 entirely. There is a reason they announce the winner live and not on set that harkens back to S1. Plus as I said before I'm sure there is legal stuff involved.
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Centurion
04/17/19 8:04:27 PM
#176:


Another balance/endurance challenge.
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The Mana Sword
04/17/19 8:04:49 PM
#177:


survivor pizza is not a temptation!!!
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The Mana Sword
04/17/19 8:06:09 PM
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GTM
04/17/19 8:21:02 PM
#179:


Loooooool at my brand is loyalty
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The Mana Sword
04/17/19 8:23:04 PM
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GTM
04/17/19 8:25:25 PM
#181:


That doesnt even rhyme
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The Mana Sword
04/17/19 8:27:45 PM
#182:


that was my first thought as well

clue writers getting lazy
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GTM
04/17/19 8:42:52 PM
#183:


More flashbacks
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The Mana Sword
04/17/19 8:44:10 PM
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GTM
04/17/19 8:44:35 PM
#185:


Wtf aurora
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GTM
04/17/19 8:45:51 PM
#186:


This is where aurora says ron had the vote all along and they all vote out ron for being schemy right?
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Inviso
04/17/19 8:46:58 PM
#187:


*sigh*

I don't even particularly care for Wardog or Kelley either way, but I'm just sick of all this "I need to vote out my close ally early into the merge" shit. It leads to shitty, flat editing, and I have zero reason to care about the vast majority of this cast. The interpersonal relationships just aren't developed because no one stick together.
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GTM
04/17/19 8:47:59 PM
#188:


Then stop watching shrug emoji
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Xuxon
04/17/19 8:48:00 PM
#189:


the fuck is Aorora doing? she could use her extra vote to force a tie even without Ron. then she's guaranteed safe unless Kelley plays her idol.
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GTM
04/17/19 8:54:05 PM
#190:


Storms a brewin
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Inviso
04/17/19 8:55:46 PM
#191:


I'm okay with this!
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GTM
04/17/19 8:55:58 PM
#192:


Badass for not using the idol... but oops
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The Mana Sword
04/17/19 8:56:01 PM
#193:


I cant believe they nuked David and Kelley on a crappy double boot episode
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GTM
04/17/19 8:56:25 PM
#194:


Edge of returnees
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GTM
04/17/19 8:57:42 PM
#195:


Now the custody battle between ron and aurora
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GTM
04/17/19 9:00:59 PM
#196:


Hmmm is Laurens idol still active when someone returns?
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The Mana Sword
04/17/19 9:01:08 PM
#197:


Most memorable players

> Chris and Bret
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Inviso
04/17/19 9:02:42 PM
#198:


d6oHvQN
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eaedwards6400
04/17/19 9:09:03 PM
#199:


I'm sad lol. But man, these new players are good to snowball two returning players into not playing idols in their pockets.
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Inviso
04/17/19 9:20:09 PM
#200:


Okay, BIG props to the Afghanimals for that. XD
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