Board 8 > SaveEstelle/LeonhartFour in Different Houses: Cold Steel Edition [SELF]

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LeonhartFour
04/07/19 9:17:56 AM
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LeonhartFour
04/07/19 3:42:30 PM
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Oh hey, Ace Attorney Trilogy is pre-downloading for me now. That's pretty nice.
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LeonhartFour
04/07/19 3:54:20 PM
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Is there any reason to hold on to old quartz or books in Cold Steel? I know there were rewards sometimes for that sort of thing for Trails in the Sky, so I'm curious.
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xp1337
04/07/19 4:02:18 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
Is there any reason to hold on to old quartz or books in Cold Steel? I know there were rewards sometimes for that sort of thing for Trails in the Sky, so I'm curious.

Books - You want to have the actual Red Moon Rose Books on you... like Carnelia/Gambler Jack you can trade the full set for an Ultimate Weapon (or rather a Zemurian Ore but same deal). They're obtained the usual Trails way of talking to the right people at the right times. However, if you miss one/some, they can appear at Micht's Pawn Shop in Trista (his inventory is randomized and changes when you enter/exit the shop)

The others you could theoretically sell once read/used I think. Read books stay in the Book Tab on the Notebook and "usable" books like recipe ones... shouldn't matter, I think? Once used, of course.

Quartz - I actually would consider holding on to them because you can trade them in at the Pawn Shop for the upgraded version - stat quartz that is. Like 3 Action 1s for an Action 2 or something (once Action 2s are otherwise available to you, you can't just trade up to the endgame versions in Chapter 1 lol.) Old Art Quartz though... think you could toss them if you want. They can also be upgraded but instead of upgrading the art it adds a stat bonus to it too. So Upgraded Tear becomes a Tear Quartz that also gives a +250 HP bonus or something. No way to turn it into Teara IIRC.
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LeonhartFour
04/07/19 5:32:14 PM
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xp1337
04/07/19 5:39:01 PM
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they were gonna call it "the cassius" but felt it was too on the nose
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LeonhartFour
04/07/19 6:24:48 PM
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so why can't I cast Tear in battle even though Elliot clearly has it and I can use it from the menu
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xp1337
04/07/19 6:44:44 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
so why can't I cast Tear in battle even though Elliot clearly has it and I can use it from the menu

When you pull up arts in battle there are two tabs. The first one is purely attack arts. You can use L1/R1 to change tabs to support arts where you'll find Tear.

...If it's not there then I have no idea wtf
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LordoftheMorons
04/07/19 7:18:48 PM
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Expanse 3.5

Noooooo I really liked Souther's lieutenants :(
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dowolf
04/07/19 7:27:26 PM
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re: Purple Lightning:

can't remember if I've mentioned this before, but basically (the word they're using here) literally means "purple lightning," but figuratively means "swordflash." It also shows up in the four-kanji idiom , meaning "flash of lightning" or "flash of a sword" -- and that last character at the end is the "sen" in "sen no kiseki," which may or may not be a coincidence.

tl;dr: yeah i have no idea why XSeed translated this one literally either.
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LeonhartFour
04/07/19 8:58:56 PM
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xp1337 posted...
When you pull up arts in battle there are two tabs.


why
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xp1337
04/07/19 10:50:31 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
xp1337 posted...
When you pull up arts in battle there are two tabs.


why

i dont know there just are
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Mac Arrowny
04/08/19 1:36:57 AM
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Did you watch any of DGS2, Leonhart? The first case has a fun little thing you would like.

I just finished it myself and other than that fun little thing I didn't like it very much. It was a lot more basic and predictable than the first case in DGS1, oddly enough. You'd think they'd expect the audience to be familiar with how these things work a little more and make a more interesting first case like they did with AA3/4, but nope. Just dumbed it down even more... At least it was fairly short I guess.
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LeonhartFour
04/08/19 1:52:33 AM
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I've watched the first case and most of the second, although the LP I've been watching has been stuck on the last part of case 2 for forever, so I'm thinking it might be dead.
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Leonhart4
04/08/19 2:11:11 PM
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But I guess I do need to figure out how to do this patching thing for DGS. The only things I've ever used fan translations for are Umineko and AAI2, so it's not a process I'm all that familiar with. People say the 3DS is really easy to hack, but at the same time, I don't want to mess my system up and I don't know if there's viable 3DS emulation anywhere yet.
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LordoftheMorons
04/08/19 2:29:00 PM
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Ugh yeah I would much rather emulate
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Mac Arrowny
04/08/19 3:55:49 PM
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3DS emulation works but there's a lot of slowdown, even on a top of the line computer.

Hacking your 3DS is super easy yeah, and it's hard to mess your system up. Just follow the guide and you shouldn't have a problem.
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LeonhartFour
04/08/19 4:05:06 PM
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So what should I prioritize using U-Materials on, and how easy are they to come by? I figure I should upgrade Rean's weapon whenever I get a chance since he'll always be in my party, but beyond that, I don't know.
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xp1337
04/08/19 4:55:18 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
So what should I prioritize using U-Materials on, and how easy are they to come by? I figure I should upgrade Rean's weapon whenever I get a chance since he'll always be in my party, but beyond that, I don't know.

Easiest use would be weapons, yeah.

There's 2 general uses for them: Weapon Upgrade and Quartz Upgrade. Weapon is simple and self-explanatory. Quartz is done at the Pawn Shop and for upgrading Arts quartz you typically require 2 of the quartz type and some U-Material. You get out that same arts quartz but now with a stat boost. While some of the stat boosts can be pretty useful (the Tear line upgraded basically turns into giving you the benefits of HP Quartz as well all in one quartz) but unless you're pretty sure you're going to be using that quartz for the long haul it may end up feeling like a wasted investment later (like upgrading a Tear quartz isn't going to help you if you end up replacing it later with Teara or Tearal.) I mean, the same is true for weapons but unlike quartz it's not like you have to think about which ones you want to use.

As for coming by them, there's generally an enemy type or two in each area that drops them. That said, I don't think you'd find yourself swimming in them under usual play. If you try to keep everyone's weapon upgraded at all times you're probably going to run out (later upgrades cost more U-Material.) I'd say the easiest way to handle them is to upgrade Rean's weapon for sure like you said... and maybe some of your preferred characters from time to time if you like.

Maybe scan the Pawn Shop to see what he's got (it's usually a good idea because he eventually has rare quartz you can't make normally) and if something stands out to you as looking great maybe go for it, but in general upgrading arts quartz might be going a bit too deep into the systems... plus it costs a bunch of sepith to make the multiple copies and such.

tl;dr: U-Materials aren't super-rare but you're also probably not going to be flooded with them. Probably easiest to upgrade Rean's weapon and maybe throw some at other party members you like/are on the team.
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LeonhartFour
04/08/19 5:32:26 PM
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thank goodness we have Laura's S-Craft

I don't know why S-Crafts are story unlocks here but it's lame
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xp1337
04/08/19 5:41:44 PM
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yeah i'm not the biggest fan of that decision
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LeonhartFour
04/08/19 6:21:55 PM
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Got my tickets bought for Avengers Endgame. Thankfully, I'm off work that Saturday so I can catch it together with my girlfriend.
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LeonhartFour
04/08/19 7:22:08 PM
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LeonhartFour
04/08/19 7:26:31 PM
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Chapter 1 complete

Ended up with 50 AP and a grade of A so not too bad I guess

Also made it to Link level 2 with Elliot and Laura
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xp1337
04/08/19 7:27:28 PM
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rean isn't the most subtle guy

machias is just dumb for not noticing rean's tortured answer
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xp1337
04/08/19 7:33:10 PM
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55 AP is the max/perfect/S-Rank for Chapter 1 so yeah you were almost there. If I had to guess maybe you missed the "Rean RPs as a Merchant" hidden quest? (After you return to Celdic on the first night, after you witness the initial argument between merchants, you can talk to a different merchant (the ingredients one who is Becky [Thors Student]'s father with the accent) and it starts a quest where he lets Rean (and the others) run his stall after giving them some rules on how to handle sales of different items. You can get bonus AP if you do well so max totals to 5 AP for the quest.
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LeonhartFour
04/08/19 8:49:23 PM
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Yeah, I was thinking I probably missed something because I went straight back to the inn, and as soon as I did, it occurred to me that there was probably something for me to do or find beforehand, but I had already triggered the next cutscene, so I didn't bother going back.

I did manage to get the first 3 Red Moon Rose books, at least.
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xp1337
04/08/19 9:14:43 PM
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Since I'm playing and this just happened and is relevant to your U-Material question: They also become possible drops from breaking pots/boxes. I thought that was NG+ only (you can use U-Materials to make Zemurian Ore in NG+) but it just happened for me on Chapter 4 so I guess not. That said the rate is currently awful. It's happened once out of... a lot of times. I remember it being better so I'm guessing it improves as you progress (and maybe the improved rate sticks for NG+ that would explain my thinking.)

So maybe you'll get a few more than I thought. It also means you could hypothetically farm them without combat since breakable stuff returns when you cross a loading zone but I wouldn't recommend the tedium of that (the same holds true for sepith since all sepith types are possible drops from breaking stuff, and the amount increases each chapter)

Also a more general thing I meant to say but I kept forgetting and then didn't want to triple post lol, but generally speaking I think Cold Steel gets better with each chapter (with one exception but it's not a bad chapter imo just kinda a calm before the storm one) so look forward to Chapter 2 (and beyond!)
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LeonhartFour
04/08/19 10:37:29 PM
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it's always hard to tell whether it's good defense or just bad offense
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LeonhartFour
04/08/19 11:10:47 PM
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UVA trying to give away a double digit lead late in the game yet again
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LordoftheMorons
04/08/19 11:12:37 PM
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Oh god
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ZeldaTPLink
04/08/19 11:20:34 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
Oh hey, Ace Attorney Trilogy is pre-downloading for me now. That's pretty nice.


I think at some point Nintendo will just make it so whenever an AA game gets made it will be automatically transferred to all your devices and launched in the one closest to you.

It will also charge money from your account on its own but you won't notice because you will be busy counting the number of words in the newest game or something like that
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LeonhartFour
04/08/19 11:21:30 PM
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Ace Attorney is one of those series where I buy stuff on principle so we keep getting more stuff
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Team Rocket Elite
04/08/19 11:22:14 PM
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If that comes with a guarantee that all future games will be localized, I'd take the deal.
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xp1337
04/08/19 11:28:55 PM
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oh my god uva

if they lose this in regulation
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LordoftheMorons
04/08/19 11:48:10 PM
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Wahoowa!
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LeonhartFour
04/09/19 12:56:05 AM
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Ah, Phoenix Wright on the big screen at last. I went ahead and beat 1-1 since you can finish it in like 30 minutes.
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LordoftheMorons
04/09/19 4:05:10 AM
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Woah, speaking of which, I didn't realize that Sam Riegel was a UVA alum!
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LeonhartFour
04/09/19 12:14:48 PM
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LeonhartFour
04/09/19 12:53:44 PM
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Also, the launch trailer said they're adding a bunch of languages for AAT in August. I know some people were complaining about that before since those translations were already done, so why not include them?

This is one of the few games where the default level for sound effects and music is perfect. I normally immediately set them to max in any game, and it was too loud. And I had to go max transparency for text boxes right away, too. Not being able to see through them at all was throwing me off. It's nice having 10 separate save slots, so I can use them for my favorite moments in the series, which I used to do all the time when I was a teenager. One of my PS1 memory cards was entirely filled up with FFVII, FFVIII, and FFIX saves.

And none of the trophies are hidden, which is nice, so I can keep track of which one I need to look for in each case. I got the extra trophy for 1-1 for saying the defendant is Mia Fey.
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LeonhartFour
04/09/19 6:54:12 PM
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Ace Attorney Season 2 Episode 19 complete

Well, they're finished up through investigation 2, so now it's time for the final trial. I'm pretty excited about it because this has been a really good adaptation thus far. Plus, there are at least two episodes left since it didn't call the next episode "Last Trial," so they aren't going to rush through it, which is good news.
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LeonhartFour
04/09/19 7:42:43 PM
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Oh hey, nice quality of life improvement here. You can jump straight to any location from anywhere now, which will definitely make 1-3 a lot less of a hassle!

Also, all the trials have a penalty meter now, even in PW1, which is weird since they went back to the original system in SoJ, for whatever the reason.
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Mac Arrowny
04/09/19 8:51:41 PM
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DGS2 actually added a backlog shortcut button which I highly appreciated after DGS1's more clunky method of accessing it. Hopefully the new trilogy has that too.
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LeonhartFour
04/09/19 8:55:07 PM
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I don't think there's actually a backlog button, at least not one that I've noticed. Saving and loading is pretty quick though if you're like me and you like to save scum dialogue choices to avoid taking penalties. You don't have to go back to the main menu to load anymore. It's in the options menu.
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LeonhartFour
04/09/19 8:57:38 PM
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Anyway, I'm playing Cold Steel now, and I got a Bond Point bonus for helping Emma to find Fie, which is nice.

also Bandana Second Year's "trick" with the 50 Mira coin was pretty obvious from the start and I say this as a guy who's awful at figuring out how magic tricks work most of the time
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Mac Arrowny
04/09/19 9:01:44 PM
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Hmm, it's the Y-button in DGS2, if that helps.
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LeonhartFour
04/09/19 9:06:11 PM
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Well, I'm playing on my PS4, so it wouldn't be the same button, but I'll fiddle around with it next time I play. Thankfully, individual segments in PW1 are really short (at least until 1-5) so I can knock them out pretty easily.
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LeonhartFour
04/09/19 9:09:10 PM
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So Second Year Bandana's name is Crow...and he wears a lot of white...

*Persona 5 alarm starts blaring*
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LeonhartFour
04/09/19 9:21:10 PM
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oh heck yeah I can finally spend BP on Emma and Sara

I'm there dude

sorry Crow and Gaius
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xp1337
04/09/19 11:16:22 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...

also Bandana Second Year's "trick" with the 50 Mira coin was pretty obvious from the start and I say this as a guy who's awful at figuring out how magic tricks work most of the time

Yeah. You can see him not catch the coin when he performs the trick if you're watching for it.

also boo picking emma over crow
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