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davidponte
04/09/19 4:15:20 PM
#101:


I was hoping Bomb Warrior would be solid as a Control Warrior player but it's not looking like it'll be the case.
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NewerShadow
04/09/19 4:18:53 PM
#102:


My early returns on Joybuzz/Alexstraza/Maly spell Hunter are positive so far, with the glaring exception of Secret Paladin. Ill try adding in Flare to try to fix it, I guess, but that might just be a hopeless matchup.
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Wedge Antilles
04/09/19 4:24:39 PM
#103:


I don't know the exact number but I think I'm something like 12-0 on this dragon paladin deck I made.
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ColZach
04/09/19 4:31:57 PM
#104:


Wedge Antilles posted...
I don't know the exact number but I think I'm something like 12-0 on this dragon paladin deck I made.


Whats your list?
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Wedge Antilles
04/09/19 4:54:12 PM
#105:


Acidic Swamp Ooze
Cathedral Gargoyle x2
Sound the Bells! x2
Wild Pyromancer x2
Aldor Peacekeeper x2
Bronze Herald x2
Blessing of Kings x2
Consecration x2
Equality x2
Scaleworm x2
Truesilver Champion x2
Dragonmaw Scorcher x2
Crowd Roaster x2
Wyrmguard x2
Tirion Fordring
Ysera
Nozari

The Nozari is there to help against the plethora of bomb warriors I'm running into. Wait until you've burned through a bunch of their bombs then heal to full. They usually don't have the threats to finish you off after that.
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davidponte
04/09/19 4:59:30 PM
#106:


Pack Stats:

129 packs

Catrina Muerte
Khadgar
Kalecgos
Tak Nozwhisker
Swampqueen Hagatha
Fel Lord Betrug
The Boom Reaver
Jepetto Joybuzz
Golden Chef Nomi

Missing 3 Rares entirely, and a 4th is missing a playset.

Epic numbers are decent.

My Legendaries came in bunches. I nearly hit the pity timer twice and still managed to open 8 of them.

I also have 47 000 dust so it's time to craft some dumb shit.
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Camden
04/09/19 6:32:05 PM
#107:


I opened four legendaries in 50 packs, and then immediately used my hall of fame dust and crafted five more of them.

Khadgar
Chef Nomi
Scargil
Nozari
Kalecgos
Archivist Elysiana
Heistbaron Togwaggle
Swampqueen Hagatha
Archvillain Rafaam
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KokoroAkechi
04/09/19 6:59:20 PM
#108:


I've played 3 decks so far

Myracle (almost the same list as the original except with Perditions, Nomi, and the new pirate)
Murloc Shaman
Silence Priest

Myracle
-Matchups are pretty polarized. Can have a good game against murlocs when properly teched but instantly loses to Warrior. Like I think Pirates and/or Thief is going to be the go to rogues because they have bigger potential swing turns now. (Also, I played 12 games with this and drew Myras twice and one of them was because I stole a tracking from a hunter and fished it out with that. I won both games when I played Myras).

Silence Priest
-Feels kind of gimmicky right now and the deck probably needs a card that can double duty with doing what the deck wants and drawing a card (like purify). Without something like shadow visions the deck feels a lot like priest was trying to do back in naxx/gvg

Murloc Shaman
-The deck seems pretty strong, you can really go off even after a clear with that new 2/3 and skargil. It does feel somewhat bad because I think you are forced to play some bad cards like murloc tidecaller simply due to the fact that you actually don't have a ton of early game options. I've been trying sea giants but they have not been that great. The deck also packs the hagatha hero card because it's just that good (I think all shaman decks should play that card).

Also I looked and apparently i won over 140 games with Shaman and I thought "when the fuck did i play shaman?"
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Camden
04/09/19 7:21:06 PM
#110:


So my first real game of the new expansion was kind of nuts. Successfully pulled off Khadgar into double Rag, and was hit with a 17 damage Hagatha's Scheme to clear my board. Messenger Raven gave me Hexlord Malacrass, which gave me my Khadgar back which allowed me to use Conjurer's Calling to kill Malacrass and get four 8/8 minions. They also got hit with Hagatha's Scheme, this time for only 11. A second Messenger Raven gave me a second Hexlord Malacrass, and a third copy of Khadgar.

I also run Archivist Elysiana for fun in this deck, and after filling my deck back up I was finally able to get the win with that third Khadgar and the second half of Conjurer's Calling.

https://imgur.com/wPj7MLY

I have six cards left in my deck, and four of them are also Kalecgos. So many useless dragons.
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HeroDelTiempo17
04/09/19 8:18:13 PM
#112:


Not sure if secret paladin is a real deck again or just really easy to beat up on people around rank 15.

As soon as people start putting in Chief Inspector though, it's over.
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VeryInsane
04/09/19 8:27:56 PM
#114:


HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
Not sure if secret paladin is a real deck again or just really easy to beat up on people around rank 15.

As soon as people start putting in Chief Inspector though, it's over.


It's decent but I think the lack of draw with divine favor leaving makes it limited compared to other aggro decks in the format which all have refill options

I think the best package is probably the Subject 9 one that also runs like, Masked Contenders to thin the deck

Been trying Zoo and it's pretty neat, had a pretty cool King Krush from Rafaam lethal and it seems to be eating these bomb warriors that are running around
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MrSmartGuy
04/09/19 8:31:31 PM
#115:


I started out playing a more tempo-based Thief Rogue with no Academic Espionage, but it's since morphed into this Thief/Heistbaron Togwaggle/Spirit of the Shark Amalgamation Rogue. I don't think it's quite as good, but it's definitely way more fun.
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_stingers_
04/09/19 8:37:54 PM
#116:


I've had a lot of success with this thief rogue (playing on my phone so not sure exactly but I'd guess like 65% winrate so far)

### hamburgaler
# Class: Rogue
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Dragon
#
# 2x (0) Backstab
# 2x (0) Preparation
# 2x (0) Shadowstep
# 2x (2) Underbelly Fence
# 2x (3) Blink Fox
# 2x (3) Cutthroat Buccaneer
# 2x (3) Hench-Clan Thug
# 1x (3) Raiding Party
# 2x (3) SI:7 Agent
# 2x (4) Academic Espionage
# 2x (4) Hench-Clan Burglar
# 2x (4) Spectral Cutlass
# 2x (4) Vendetta
# 1x (5) Myra's Unstable Element
# 1x (5) Zilliax
# 1x (7) Chef Nomi
# 1x (7) Tak Nozwhisker
# 1x (8) Tess Greymane
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MrSmartGuy
04/09/19 9:18:13 PM
#117:


So uh....... getting Zarog's Crown off Heistbaron Togwaggle and using it to summon two Archmage Vargoths is fucking insane.
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CybrMonkey
04/09/19 9:35:47 PM
#118:


Lost an arena run to a Mutate off Lotus Agents into Argent Commander for exact lethal when I had lethal on the board. The salt is real.
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metroid composite
04/09/19 10:17:14 PM
#119:


Opened 3 legendaries in 58 packs or so (Chef Nomi, Keeper Saladris, and Rafaam).

davidponte posted...
I was hoping Bomb Warrior would be solid as a Control Warrior player but it's not looking like it'll be the case.

Believe it or not, Reddit is currently whining about bomb warrior, with some topics predicting it will get the "quest rogue treatment".

(I agree it's not very good, though; or at least I haven't lost to it yet. Mostly it reminds me of C'Thun decks when Whispers came out--you can power up your legendary by playing a bunch of understated vanilla crap, yaaaaay).

I have two undefeated decks (token druid, and vanilla spell hunter--not the spell hunter with Malygos and Jepetto, just one with a bunch of value spells and Zuljin). Token druid feels absolutely filthy, but token decks are highroll by nature, so it probably feels really bad when it fails. Spell Hunter...kinda still feels like spell hunter, you just mess around for a while, use your removal on everything, and then at some point you notice your opponent is at 15 and you have two kill commands in hand and the game ends.

I have lost with zoo; need to go retool that, my first pass just used the deck recipe and filled in cards and it was baaaaad, but I want to stick Rafaam into something.

I probably won't be playing Chef Nomi for a little while. The reason there are bomb warriors everywhere is mostly a response to Myra's into Nomi. And yeah, bombs are good when your opponent draws their entire deck.
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metroid composite
04/09/19 10:27:41 PM
#120:


OK, well, immediately got a win with my zoolock after writing that. All it took was facing a bomb warrior, lol.
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Joelypoely
04/09/19 10:30:18 PM
#122:


It's hard to tell whether this sort of deck is OP though it does feel very fun to play:

Bomber
Class: Warrior
Format: Wild

1x (1) Shield Slam
1x (2) Baleful Banker
1x (2) Dead Man's Hand
1x (2) Drywhisker Armorer
1x (2) Execute
1x (2) Hobart Grapplehammer
1x (2) Slam
1x (2) Warpath
1x (2) Youthful Brewmaster
2x (3) Augmented Elekk
1x (3) Brann Bronzebeard
2x (3) Clockwork Goblin
1x (3) Shield Block
1x (4) Blood Razor
1x (4) Elise Starseeker
2x (4) Wrenchcalibur
1x (5) Barista Lynchen
1x (5) Brawl
1x (5) Direhorn Hatchling
2x (5) Seaforium Bomber
1x (6) Iron Juggernaut
1x (6) Shieldmaiden
1x (7) Blastmaster Boom
1x (7) Dr. Boom
1x (8) Sneed's Old Shredder
1x (10) N'Zoth, the Corruptor

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The proper mech version is probably strictly better but this version certainly feels more evil.
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davidponte
04/09/19 10:33:16 PM
#123:


It's inherently evil by existing in an evil format.
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metroid composite
04/09/19 10:54:49 PM
#124:


Aaand lost with token druid now too (yeah, if you don't draw your tokens you kind-of die).
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MrSmartGuy
04/10/19 12:06:30 AM
#125:


I do believe I've gone mad.

### oh hai malygos
# Class: Rogue
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Dragon
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# 2x (0) Backstab
# 2x (0) Preparation
# 2x (1) Deadly Poison
# 1x (1) Sinister Strike
# 1x (1) Togwaggle's Scheme
# 1x (2) Bloodmage Thalnos
# 2x (2) Eviscerate
# 2x (2) Sap
# 1x (2) Shiv
# 2x (3) Blink Fox
# 2x (3) EVIL Miscreant
# 2x (3) Fan of Knives
# 2x (3) SI:7 Agent
# 2x (4) Hench-Clan Burglar
# 1x (5) Harrison Jones
# 1x (5) Myra's Unstable Element
# 1x (6) Heistbaron Togwaggle
# 1x (7) Sprint
# 1x (8) Jepetto Joybuzz
# 1x (9) Malygos
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So there are two ways to pull off the combo. The easy way is if you manage to hit Malygos with your two Jepetto draws. If you don't, every other minion is still really good as a 1-mana 1/1.

The hard way is to Heistbaron for the Wondrous Wand, get Malygos, Togwaggle's Scheme, and two burn cards in hand, play Myra's Unstable Element to blast the rest of your cards away, then filter at least 4 Malygos into your empty deck and make them 0 mana.
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KokoroAkechi
04/10/19 12:21:27 AM
#126:


I hit the gold limit for the day, first time i've done this in months.
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metroid composite
04/10/19 1:33:56 AM
#127:


Spell Hunter is still doing pretty good for me, although I did lose to a wall preist who stuck Catrina Muerte and just always ressed the big taunts (when they had Archmage and northshire in the res pool). Maybe this is why people run Maly combo in this deck....
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metroid composite
04/10/19 2:42:10 AM
#128:


Hench-Clan Hogsteed is kind-of amazing with both Knife Juggler and Dire Wolf Alpha.

With Dire Wolf Alpha, you get a 3 damage rush (and a minion summoned next to DWA). With Knife Juggler, you get two juggles immediately on top of your 2 rush damage.

Like...all of these cards are solid aggro 2 drops on their own, but during previews I really hadn't appreciated the level of synergy between Hogsteed and the other two. (I was too busy thinking about "it's a beast, and a murloc").
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metroid composite
04/10/19 2:59:09 AM
#129:


Side note, I was going to give murloc shaman a spin, until I realized I had opened zero Sludge Slurpers. Oof. I don't want to craft them; they're rare, and I'm not done opening RoS packs. I could run Murloc Raider instead, but that is a bit of a letdown.
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MrSmartGuy
04/10/19 3:07:17 AM
#130:


Just had my first Miracle with my deck. My opponent was playing a summon minion Mage deck and had a Turn 7 Astromancer into Turn 8 Khadgar, double Conjuror's Calling and I was 100% not ready for that. My hand was Wondrous Wand, Sprint, double Prep, Sinister Strike, Fan of Knives, Eviscerate.

I figured my only out was to go for Malygos with 17 cards still in the deck, so I prep'd it, but it hit Thalnos, Blink Fox, and the second Eviscerate. Then I prep'd Fan of Knives, and I hit Deadly Poison. I still have my 5/5 Togwaggle up, and he got no Taunts from his conjuring. I realize with my dagger at 3 attack already, my hand is actually representing 24 damage and he's at 27. I still have a 0-mana Fox to play, and it hits the single Mage card that gives me lethal: Frostbolt.
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KokoroAkechi
04/10/19 4:49:45 AM
#131:


I've been pretty much sticking to murloc shaman now, and after some tuning, the deck is +10 in the w/l column. What is notable about the deck is Hagatha (the hero card) gives it a powerful late game plan versus slower decks if you keep hold of that 2/3 and like a ghost angler. I've also tossed in that card that replaces your deck with cards you discovered specifically for the warrior matchup. But there have been other cases where I just have no hand and everything i draw is pretty bad and would not mind being able to draw more impactful stuff to finish a game.

Like I had a game against a summon mage which went all the way to fatigue. He used like all his summon cards, kalecgos, etc. AND HE STILL LOST because Hagatha is pretty busted when you can continually generate minions from other minons in addition to the spells. Also, the summon mage deck is probably bad, I have not been impressed by what I've seen of it.
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HanOfTheNekos
04/10/19 9:36:57 AM
#133:


Barista Lynchen first legendary
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metroid composite
04/10/19 10:15:53 AM
#134:


I had lost to a hand mage with Mountain Giants and Meteorologist earlier, so I built my own hand mage.

I'm sure it's not anywhere close to optimal, but surprising to me it's winning a bunch (3-1). I started out with Blizzard, frost nova, flame strike, frost bolt etc but then I remembered that the version I played against had Book of Spectres, and dragon synergy (Firetree Witchdoctors) so I threw some of that in, took out most of the spells.

This deck is probably supposed to run a bunch of legendaries I don't have or something (Khadgar, Kalegcos) but lol, oh well. Mountain Giant, Meteorologist, and Astromancer seem good enough to win the game, and early on you just play stuff that keeps your hand size from shrinking (Messenger Raven, Firetree Witchdoctor, anything with twinspell).

Meteorologist tho. I had literally forgotten this card existed, but it feels like it's carrying me a lot of the time.
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LiquidOshawott
04/10/19 3:55:13 PM
#135:


Magic Carpet is pretty awesome in Zoo, thats my biggest takeaway so far

Togwaggle has been... alright in Tempo Rogue? I guess the Rogue legendaries are a bit wonkier than I expected with the discover
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HanOfTheNekos
04/10/19 5:04:33 PM
#136:


I had an amazing eleventh hour finish as rogue vs mage, the kind Ulti would rage about.

To be fair, he left my auctioneer up, then didn't play around spellbender or counterspell.

Ended up 3 damage short of lethal, the poor thing.
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Camden
04/10/19 5:19:21 PM
#137:


Went 1-3 in tavern brawl with what I thought was a good deck.

Loaded up EU and built a weird Bomb Dragon Warrior hybrid because I don't have the collection to build either one by itself, currently 6-0. Huh.

Edit: Finished 8-3, I think seven of my games were against murlocs. Is everyone playing murlocs now or did I just get a run of them?
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ColZach
04/10/19 7:22:29 PM
#138:


Some moron stole a game from me by winning a 1/5 with his waggle pick to get tog back...he actually played more minions beforehand too. Fuck this game.
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KokoroAkechi
04/10/19 7:50:29 PM
#139:


Camden posted...
Went 1-3 in tavern brawl with what I thought was a good deck.

Loaded up EU and built a weird Bomb Dragon Warrior hybrid because I don't have the collection to build either one by itself, currently 6-0. Huh.

Edit: Finished 8-3, I think seven of my games were against murlocs. Is everyone playing murlocs now or did I just get a run of them?


Murlocs are pretty popular. I'd say Bomb/control warrior is the most popular deck, followed by rogue and Murloc shaman. I currently play murloc and I enjoy the deck. I think it's strong and has some interesting decision-making points even early in the game.

it gets demolished by like token druid and zoo though a lot of the time. Those decks just make too many small minions and unless I'm massively ahead (or get insanely lucky) I just eventually lose because I can't attrition those decks since I'm pretty sure I lose the battle on board.
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davidponte
04/10/19 8:41:49 PM
#141:


7-3 with Bomb Warrior in the brawl. All 3 of my losses were also to Bomb Warrior. The deck is simultaneously very fun to play and infuriating to play against.

Should be a great few months.
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BlackDra90n
04/10/19 10:52:15 PM
#143:


I've opened maybe forty packs in the last two days and managed to get two golden legendaries. I think 48 hours ago I only had one golden legendary and I've been playing since.. 2013? Crazy.
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metroid composite
04/10/19 11:00:00 PM
#144:


Posted my zoo deck on CompetitiveHS, got told it was bad, and should cut all the three drops, run magic carpets, and add more 1 drops, so I did that for tavern brawl.

One problem though: I forgot to add Sea Giants to the Tavern Brawl one. Oops.

Three control decks with board clears later and I went 2-3.

(Laggy went 8-3 with a sensible version of the deck, though--running Shieldbearers to sub for Crystalizers which he doesn't have. Worth noting I don't have the Soularium, and I think it's probably important for the "run magic carpet and all the 1 drops" version of the deck, cause Soularium is obviously good when most of your deck is 1 drops).
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metroid composite
04/10/19 11:56:01 PM
#145:


BlackDra90n posted...
I've opened maybe forty packs in the last two days and managed to get two golden legendaries. I think 48 hours ago I only had one golden legendary and I've been playing since.. 2013? Crazy.

Also got a golden legendary. Interesting.
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metroid composite
04/11/19 1:50:05 AM
#146:


Wow, I want to make a shaman deck, of various varieties, but pack RNG really hasn't given me shaman cards.

I don't mean just legendaries either. Zero Sludge Slurpers. Zero Hagatha's Scheme. Zero Muckmorphers. And, from last set, Zero Haunting Visions.

(Two underbelly Anglers, all the commons, and I do have 2x Big Bad Archmage if Muckmorpher into BBA turns out to be good).
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LiquidOshawott
04/11/19 5:25:41 AM
#147:


metroid composite posted...
Wow, I want to make a shaman deck, of various varieties, but pack RNG really hasn't given me shaman cards.

I don't mean just legendaries either. Zero Sludge Slurpers. Zero Hagatha's Scheme. Zero Muckmorphers. And, from last set, Zero Haunting Visions.

(Two underbelly Anglers, all the commons, and I do have 2x Big Bad Archmage if Muckmorpher into BBA turns out to be good).


Do you have Thunderhead? Ive been trying a Murloc/Overload hybrid since Im in the same boat and its alright
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KokoroAkechi
04/11/19 7:39:25 AM
#148:


I cut scargill from my murloc package and put in an overload package. It hurts my warrior matchup but greatly increases all my other ones.
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azuarc
04/11/19 12:04:04 PM
#149:


Cleaning up in the newbie ranks with thief rogue...and laughing at how little I've played standard that I was knocked back all the way to rank 20.
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