Board 8 > Nationalist politics topic 15: The "Russian collusion" was a hoax!

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But only read the works of men who agree with Vlado, otherwise its not information worth reading.
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Vlado posted...

Oh, for fun? Well, sure, whatever. Not nearly as important as space travel.

What is space travel for if not for fun?

What are you hoping to find as you sail the stars?

Is the Bulgarian space program literally based around wind sails in space?
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Question for Jakyl, If you had to lace up your gloves and step between the ropes with Vlado in his home country, do you reckon you could win the crowd by the 9th round ala Rocky in IV?
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I would cheat
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Vlado posted...

lmfao, imagine actually believing that.

Fine we'll start small. I wouldn't have a nation.
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Vlado posted...

I think for myself. Maybe if you bothered reading the works of great men before us, you'd find it out, too.

So is it the Joe Rogan podcast or...?
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Vlado posted...

But we do.

Go talk to your fellow Bulgarian beef farmers and learn a thing or two
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Espeon posted...

But only read the works of men who agree with Vlado, otherwise its not information worth reading.

Well, thanks for putting me in the group of the likes of Aristotle and Plato.

Jakyl25 posted...

What is space travel for if not for fun?

What are you hoping to find as you sail the stars?

New planets to settle on.

foolm0r0n posted...

Fine we'll start small. I wouldn't have a nation.

And? Long way to go to 80%, btw.

foolm0r0n posted...

So is it the Joe Rogan podcast or...?

Why would I copy someone whose intellectual capacity is clearly below mine?
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Vlado posted...

New planets to settle on.

Why do we need new planets to settle on? We have enough food here for everyone according to you

Also if there are people on these planets, by YOUR OWN RULES we shouldnt settle therw
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Ah yes, because knowledge hasnt advanced in the past two thousand years.
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Espeon posted...

Ah yes, because knowledge hasn?t advanced in the past two thousand years.

If vlado found a literal fountain of youth and could live two thousand years, his knowledge wouldn't advance.
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Vlado posted...

And? Long way to go to 80%, btw.

Okay now add all Americans (including natives since they have no land), all Asians, non Caucasian Europeans including mixed, non land owning Europeans, and Africans except land owning unmixed ones.

I guess this does go a bit beyond "white" supremacy so I see tour point there.

Vlado posted...

Why would I copy someone whose intellectual capacity is clearly below mine?

Because they said something that makes you feel good, same as all your sources of truth
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Vlado, youve spent this entire topic series parroting easily-debunked clickbait articles designed to appeal to easily offended right-wing snowflakes. Id LOVE to see any semblance of evidence that you have ANY intellectual capacity whatsoever.
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Espeon posted...

Ah yes, because knowledge hasnt advanced in the past two thousand years.

Knowledge of human nature hasn't really.

Jakyl25 posted...

Why do we need new planets to settle on? We have enough food here for everyone according to you

So? It's not about need. It's about exploring and building new worlds. You know, being human.

foolm0r0n posted...

Okay now add all Americans

Why?

foolm0r0n posted...

all Asians

They have their countries.

foolm0r0n posted...

non Caucasian Europeans

All none of them? Okay. Again, if I got a Japanese passport, that would not suddenly make me a Japanese person.

foolm0r0n posted...

Africans

They have their countries (whether the borders are correct is another story).

foolm0r0n posted...

Because they said something that makes you feel good, same as all your sources of truth

That's way off target.

Meanwhile, gun activist Butina sentenced to 18 months for "being a Russian spy":
https://archive.is/5dyUf

She'll be out soon, but the case showcases what a politicised freak show the US "justice" system has become. A great article from Ron Paul's site on the case:
http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2018/december/19/the-disgrace-of-maria-butinas-prosecution/
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Vlado posted...

So? It's not about need. It's about exploring and building new worlds. You know, being human.

But not living there
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https://twitter.com/mollycrabapple/status/1121467623022239745

In the Current Year, 99% of stories about "sex trafficking" are just regular old prostitution stings.
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Vlado posted...

Why?

You literally just said so. I was going to respond to everything but if you can't even keep this one thing straight then it's clear you don't care to think about this logically.
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Jakyl25 posted...

But not living there

? Some will live there, some will allow others the chance to live there, and return to Earth, or to another planet.

foolm0r0n posted...

You literally just said so.

They are actually two different conversations. Just because they cannot be nationalists in the way Europeans can doesn't mean they can't have their own country - and try to build it towards a nation in the coming generations. It's what Trump's campaign showed he would try to do. Obviously, that means they'll need to make some compromises - while being careful not to make too many - which would erase chances of it ever becoming a nation. But that's the burden their ancestors left them with by migrating from their home countries.

Anyway, in Spain, big gains for nationalists Vox, as they begin their Reconquista! 10% of the votes and 24 seats in the 350-seat parliament.

In 2016, 47,182 people voted for Vox.
In 2019, the figure increased to 2,673,828.

"We told you that we were going to begin a reconquering of Spain and that's what we have done," Vox leader Santiago Abascal said, in reference to the 15th-century campaign by the Spanish Catholic Kings to end Muslim rule in the Iberian Peninsula.

Vox, which was formed five years ago, has promised to defend Spain from its "enemies," citing feminists, liberal elites and Muslims among others.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/socialists-win-spain-election-far-right-party-to-debut-in-parliament
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Vlado posted...

Just because they cannot be nationalists in the way Europeans can doesn't mean they can't have their own country

I have specifically used the word nation from the beginning

I agree that you are having a different conversation because you are too afraid to admit that your rules do really mean 80% of the world is excluded
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Remind me again, Sweetie, is dividing the population against one another good or bad for the global elite?
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Vlado posted...

? Some will live there, some will allow others the chance to live there, and return to Earth, or to another planet.

This completely contradicts your entire nationalist philosophy
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Jakyl25 posted...

Vlado posted...

? Some will live there, some will allow others the chance to live there, and return to Earth, or to another planet.

This completely contradicts your entire nationalist philosophy

Oh really? How so? Just because a nation's space expands on other planets doesn't mean it ceases to exist.
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foolm0r0n posted...

Vlado posted...

Just because they cannot be nationalists in the way Europeans can doesn't mean they can't have their own country

I have specifically used the word nation from the beginning

I agree that you are having a different conversation because you are too afraid to admit that your rules do really mean 80% of the world is excluded

Oh wow, how conveniently you ignored the rest of my sentence that you quoted. lmfao

Try harder next time.
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clinton still bitter about Trump CRUSHING her, whines to China to hack him.

https://www.rt.com/usa/458192-clinton-china-hacking-trump/

The outgoing EU commission has been giving EU taxpayer money - over 1,5 billion! - to illegal immigrants in the form of anonymous debit cards. This is absolutely preposterous.
http://www.kormany.hu/en/news/over-1-55-billion-euros-has-been-spent-on-the-migrant-cards

And Hungary boasts impressive numbers since a government that actually cares for Hungary took the reigns.

While European nations languish with rapidly declining birthrates, Hungary stands out with rising marriage rates, falling abortions, and its highest birthrate in 20 years, Pecknold notes in an essay in the Catholic Herald Thursday.

Marriage is up by 43 percent since 2010, while divorce has dropped by 22.5 percent in the same period. This demographic turnaround has not been an accident, but the fruit of deliberate programs to promote marriage and the family while defending Hungarys cultural identity and Christian roots.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/04/27/report-hungary-counters-europes-demographic-winter/
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Vlado posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

Vlado posted...

? Some will live there, some will allow others the chance to live there, and return to Earth, or to another planet.

This completely contradicts your entire nationalist philosophy

Oh really? How so? Just because a nation's space expands on other planets doesn't mean it ceases to exist.

Because you dont think other nations should live on other peoples land

You think every ethnicity should just stay in the region God ordained them to be in and not permanently settle in someone elses region

The moment you advocate living somewhere you arent from you negate your entire world view.

Youve never answered the question as to whether space colonization should be strictly segregated by Earth ethnic groups
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Jakyl25 posted...

not permanently settle in someone elses region

Whose region is a planet without human population?

Meanwhile, in the US, a transgender powerlifter smashes women's world records.

https://pluralist.com/transgender-powerlifter-shatters-womens-world-records/

Wow, who could have possibly foreseen this?!

Fortunately, women athletes from different countries have called this out. The madness will end soon enough.
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Vlado posted...

Oh wow, how conveniently you ignored the rest of my sentence that you quoted

Nope lol. I addressed your entire post concisely because it all falls apart from your distinction between country and nation. You concede that 80% of people are excluded for a nation.

But now you are grasping for this other idea of becoming a nation. That's totally BS and you don't believe it, nor do you even understand what you are saying. Trump promised that he would build a nation, by making America great again? What "again"? America was a nation in the past, when it was even younger and had less history and less generational heritage, and now it's not, so we need to go back? Nothing about this weird new "nation" philosophy makes any sense, and you can't even keep track of it.

Just give it up.
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Vlado posted...

Whose region is a planet without human population?

What if God put other sentient beings there already
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foolm0r0n posted...

Nope lol. I addressed your entire post

"Nope lol"

foolm0r0n posted...

You concede that 80% of people are excluded for a nation.

Wrong.

foolm0r0n posted...

But now you are grasping for this other idea of becoming a nation.

Do you think nations just materialised into existence with a single flash of light? Nations are built over an extended period of time, that much is obvious.

foolm0r0n posted...

Trump promised that he would build a nation, by making America great again? What "again"? America was a nation in the past, when it was even younger and had less history and less generational heritage, and now it's not, so we need to go back? Nothing about this weird new "nation" philosophy makes any sense, and you can't even keep track of it.

USA hasn't been a nation, ever. Its history has simply been too short for that to happen, and in 1913 parties working towards reversing the process took power and turned it into globalist HQ, with only small impediments for them occurring here and there since, and some of the humans manifesting them were mercilessly removed. If Candidate Trump was to be believed, he intended on setting the country back on the path towards nationhood.

"Make America Great Again" refers to pre-1913 times, and to a lesser extent (although ironically this is what the public will associate it with, because they weren't alive pre-1913), the 50s-60s, when there was peace and morality reigned on the surface (but below the surface, the path towards today's utter ruin was being prepared).

Jakyl25 posted...

What if God put other sentient beings there already

What if the sky fell tomorrow?
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Vlado posted...

Make America Great Again" refers to pre-1913 times

Before women could vote basically
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Before the Federal Reserve.
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Vlado posted...

What if the sky fell tomorrow?

So you believe there are no other sentient beings in space but we should still explore it anyway because...?
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Vlado posted...

Before the Federal Reserve.

Would you say the Federal Reserves existence is worse than women not being able to vote
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Jakyl25 posted...

Vlado posted...

Make America Great Again" refers to pre-1913 times

Before women could vote basically

and while we still had segregation
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Vlado wants America to return to the morals of the time when its colonial expansion was at its most fervent, back when we culturally endorsed Manifest Destiny for whites only, yet claims to be a nationalist
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Jakyl25 posted...

Vlado posted...

What if the sky fell tomorrow?

So you believe there are no other sentient beings in space but we should still explore it anyway because...?

Why did we explore the dangerous wilderness instead of sitting comfortably in our caves? Why did we explore the dangerous mountains instead of staying in the comfortable plains? Why did we explore the dangerous oceans instead of staying in comfortable, beautiful Europe?

Because that is what it means to be human.

Jakyl25 posted...

Vlado posted...

Before the Federal Reserve.

Would you say the Federal Reserves existence is worse than women not being able to vote

Stupid comparison, but obviously an entity that ruins the whole lives of millions and millions of men and women is worse than even both men and women not being able to vote.

Jakyl25 posted...

Vlado wants America to return to the morals of the time when its colonial expansion was at its most fervent, back when we culturally endorsed Manifest Destiny for whites only, yet claims to be a nationalist

Why are you tying colonialism to nationalism?
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Vlado posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

Vlado posted...

What if the sky fell tomorrow?

So you believe there are no other sentient beings in space but we should still explore it anyway because...?

Why did we explore the dangerous wilderness instead of sitting comfortably in our caves? Why did we explore the dangerous mountains instead of staying in the comfortable plains? Why did we explore the dangerous oceans instead of staying in comfortable, beautiful Europe?

Resources, and later money
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Jakyl25 posted...

Resources, and later money

That's an answer only a completely demoralised and cynical materialist would give. Let's not be like that.
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Vlado posted...

Why are you tying colonialism to nationalism?

Because they are directly opposite concepts UNLESS you believe in nationalism only for select ethnicities
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Vlado posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

Resources, and later money

That's an answer only a completely demoralised and cynical materialist would give. Let's not be like that.

Give me a better answer then besides because we are human because that is an anti-intellectual garbage answer
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Vlado posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

Resources, and later money

That's an answer only a completely demoralised and cynical materialist would give. Let's not be like that.

I mean, we have people TODAY who are so frightened of other cultures that they would rather kneecap their own homeland than allow even a HINT of diversity. You really think a human race that spawned THOSE pathetic losers really cared more about adventure and exploration than about the wealth they could amass?
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I still dont know how Vlados descendants are ever going to sail the stars given the current state of the Bulgarian space program

Because theres no way he would endorse them going into space with a multi-national crew
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Vlado posted...

foolm0r0n posted...

Vlado posted...

Just because they cannot be nationalists in the way Europeans can doesn't mean they can't have their own country

I have specifically used the word nation from the beginning

I agree that you are having a different conversation because you are too afraid to admit that your rules do really mean 80% of the world is excluded

Oh wow, how conveniently you ignored the rest of my sentence that you quoted. lmfao

Try harder next time.

You do that more often than you don't do that.
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Jakyl25 posted...

I still don?t know how Vlado?s descendants are ever going to sail the stars given the current state of the Bulgarian space program

Because there?s no way he would endorse them going into space with a multi-national crew

Vlado won't have descendants.

Meanwhile, Vlado literally linked to breitbart. That gets an lel, 4 keks (2 top, 1 bottom and 1 middle), a fef, 2 wews, a beb and a zez.
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Vlado posted...

pre-1913 times, and to a lesser extent (although ironically this is what the public will associate it with, because they weren't alive pre-1913), the 50s-60s, when there was peace

You have a deep misunderstanding of US history.

Vlado posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

Resources, and later money

That's an answer only a completely demoralised and cynical materialist would give. Let's not be like that.

It's an answer someone knowledgeable about US history would give.
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Vlado posted...

"Nope lol"

Should I have said lfmao instead

Vlado posted...

Do you think nations just materialised into existence with a single flash of light?

In your philosophy they absolutely did, because you can't explain why some things are and aren't nations. You just arbitrarily picked some rules and picked the exact "evidence" that you needed to build the theory that titillated you the most, ignoring all the other facts of the world's thousands-year history. And boom, there's your nations.

(Also in Christianity, which I know you don't follow at all, nations were literally created in a flash at the tower of Babel.)

Vlado posted...

"Make America Great Again" refers to pre-1913 times, and to a lesser extent (although ironically this is what the public will associate it with, because they weren't alive pre-1913), the 50s-60s, when there was peace and morality reigned on the surface (but below the surface, the path towards today's utter ruin was being prepared).

I was going to explain how it's all about the post-war (including the 50s but also new deal era) socialization booms, same as what Reagan meant when he created the term. Centralization and nationalism. Executive order. Overreaching the Constitution.

But I realize the beauty of the term is it can be anything you want. If Great America to you was pre-1913, then that is legitimately what you believe Trump was talking about. That's what you would have voted for if you weren't a foreigner who has zero effect on our society.

So it's not surprising that you're disappointed in President Trump, when the core of Candidate Trump is something you made up and has no relation to the policies he was actually talking about. Trump is by all measure the most consistent president after election we've seen in a long time. Obama, Bush, all the way back to Reagan were straight up liars when campaigning. Not to mention how Hillary would have been...

I would say, if you're truly disappointed in current Trump, to examine the propaganda you fell for during his campaign, and what propaganda you are falling for TODAY with your current favorite leaders. Because you keep making this exact mistake over and over.
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Espeon posted...

Remind me again, Sweetie, is dividing the population against one another good or bad for the global elite?

Just noticed you never responded to this. Should be a simple answer, right?
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Vlado posted...

Why did we explore the dangerous mountains instead of staying in the comfortable plains?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/02/asia/mount-everest-trash-cleanup-scli-intl/index.html

Apparently to poop
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Jakyl25 posted...

Because they are directly opposite concepts

Well, that's what I'm saying. By colonising other nations, you're denying them the right to be free. That's not nationalism.

Jakyl25 posted...

UNLESS you believe in nationalism only for select ethnicities

ALL peoples deserve to have their own nations. I have always said that.

Jakyl25 posted...

Give me a better answer then besides because we are human because that is an anti-intellectual garbage answer

I already did.

Jakyl25 posted...

I still dont know how Vlados descendants are ever going to sail the stars given the current state of the Bulgarian space program

Because theres no way he would endorse them going into space with a multi-national crew

Oh? Just because it's a multi-national crew doesn't mean their respective nations cease to exist. But naturally, the nations who bear the most burden in space exploration will reap the most rewards.

Kenri posted...

You have a deep misunderstanding of US history.

no u

Kenri posted...

It's an answer someone knowledgeable about US history would give.

lel

US were actually late to the game (well, the country wasn't even a concept when the process started). Look at the European former colonial powers, especially Britain and France, and how fucked up they are today in result.

foolm0r0n posted...

Should I have said lfmao instead

You should have actually addressed the rest of the sentence you quoted. You only addressed half and pretended you had scored a point when you literally ignored my complete point and argued against one you yourself created.
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foolm0r0n posted...

In your philosophy they absolutely did, because you can't explain why some things are and aren't nations. You just arbitrarily picked some rules and picked the exact "evidence" that you needed to build the theory that titillated you the most, ignoring all the other facts of the world's thousands-year history. And boom, there's your nations.

Feel free to suggest alternative theories. I would say nations forming over centuries and many generations is a pretty obvious thing. But go ahead, suggest another theory.

foolm0r0n posted...

I was going to explain how it's all about the post-war (including the 50s but also new deal era) socialization booms, same as what Reagan meant when he created the term. Centralization and nationalism. Executive order. Overreaching the Constitution.

Are you seriously going to argue that globalist puppet Reagan was "nationalist"? lmfao

foolm0r0n posted...

So it's not surprising that you're disappointed in President Trump, when the core of Candidate Trump is something you made up and has no relation to the policies he was actually talking about.

Wrong. I am disappointed because he fails to achieve the things he campaigned on, but mostly because he's not putting up much of a fight. I am still not convinced he's controlled opposition, maybe he was genuine all along, but it seems he lacks the spine to truly try something great. He doesn't even need to succeed. He could fail. But failure would not take away the good intent.

It could still be a long game, he could still actually go hard in a second term. Not very likely, I say. But we can hope.

foolm0r0n posted...

Trump is by all measure the most consistent president after election we've seen in a long time.

Well, sure. That's because his predecessors set the bar pretty low.

foolm0r0n posted...

Obama, Bush, all the way back to Reagan were straight up liars when campaigning. Not to mention how Hillary would have been...

Good we agree on something.

foolm0r0n posted...

I would say, if you're truly disappointed in current Trump, to examine the propaganda you fell for during his campaign, and what propaganda you are falling for TODAY with your current favorite leaders. Because you keep making this exact mistake over and over.

I am not making a mistake. Look, I am loyal only to myself, and my own views. I support leaders when they align with me, but I will withdraw support if they betray me. It's simple. It's called being a politically competent individual.

Espeon posted...

Just noticed you never responded to this. Should be a simple answer, right?

I didn't because it was a hare-brained question I'd addressed a million times before. "Divide and conquer" is obviously not in the interest of the masses the elites apply it on.

Meanwhile, Vox reporting on latest shooting:



"Not white? Damn."
"Not nationalist? Damn."
"Not Christian? Damn."
"I suppose we'll have to make do with "male.""
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