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Kaxon
04/29/19 2:40:15 PM
#351:


Yeah, gacha is pretty unfuriating.

I got my first Ark clear last night but it was slow and I ran out of hones, at the end I was waiting for him to hit me so I could full my SB bar and finish him off with a soul break. Don't really want to do that again but I do need to finish my monthly 20 for the mythril.
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Lopen
04/29/19 2:54:14 PM
#352:


Yeah I had a pretty terrible ROP too. Yours may actually have been worse than mine by a hair though. At least I got one good USB.
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Xuxon
04/29/19 5:52:03 PM
#353:


IX - 1/11 my fifth hamelin. damn...
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
04/30/19 12:47:47 AM
#354:


Lopen posted...
Yeah I had a pretty terrible ROP too. Yours may actually have been worse than mine by a hair though. At least I got one good USB.


You had a way better one that mine, you actually got 2 good USBs with Krile (unless it was her Brave, even then it's still good for breaking Manticore's savage) And Barbarbicca's BSB is actually one of the good BSBs left since it's an imperil and can keep her going once she runs out of hones (which is the main reason people can't beat Adamantoise) Waaaaay better than Decil or Thief's burst.

But anyway I got over it, I just wanted to vent my frustration and I mellowed out over the day. I figured it wasn't too big of a loss since we're entering the catch up lull till Odin and 6* magicite and I only have 4 more 5* magicite to beat and have most of the tools to beat them (hopefully) And I take comfort that a Chain Dream Select was datamined so assuming Dena isn't teasing us I can get a holy chain there for Deathgaze.
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Lopen
04/30/19 1:16:21 AM
#355:


Well I'm not sure I'd call one USB "way better" (Valvalis's Burst is very useless for me even if it's technically a decent burst on a character I like just because I have better options in FFIV and Wind Magic) but sure whatever you can have the smaller dick if you want.

Also on a similar note Krile's USB is kinda bad because yeah I have a better Ace, Vincent, and Vivi as well as a better all around FFV team that is hard to slot her in, so I don't see her getting use anywhere.
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
04/30/19 1:47:04 AM
#356:


Assuming it's Krile's USB1 (the rank chase) it's actually better that Ace and Vincent's USBs, especially since Ace doesn't have dualcast yet (and only recently got it in Japan) The brave one probably not.

Also you probably haven't fought Adamantoise yet to see how irritating that boss actually is if you think Barbarbiccia's BSB is useless. That actually one of the best poverty tools for the toise.
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Lopen
04/30/19 2:12:23 AM
#357:


Well I have Vincent chain so he's auto in. And I have like 5 Ace things so I figure he's probably better.

Maybe it's better than both of Ace's USBs + LMR combined though
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
04/30/19 2:24:34 AM
#358:


With Vincent's chain Krile easily beats Ace, he only does like 7 hits with chain fiaja with his USBs and has to build up for more hits on USB2, Krile can do 11, 16 if she has dualcast LMR.

Only reason to use Ace over Krile is if you have his AOSB and not Krile's.
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Lopen
04/30/19 3:05:26 AM
#359:


Still likely to use Ace over her if for no other reason I don't want to put resources into Krile unless I have to as Ace is relatively more useful for Type-0 than she is for FFV, and I can probably beat the magicite without her.

Duly noted if I need a bit more oomph though.
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RPGlord95
04/30/19 6:00:08 AM
#360:


What is a good Hades strategy? He is my last 4 star magicite to beat. His status stuff keeps overwhelming me.

I bring Enkidu and Affliction Break but need more I guess
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Ultimaphazon
04/30/19 6:12:21 AM
#361:


Astra and/or Magic Blink are almost mandatory. If your dps is good enough, you can dodge most of his status BS. He is highly scripted, so if you push through his phases quickly, you should be fine.

It's been a long time since I last fought him, but my run was basically:

- Enough dps to skip first Savage Cauldron
- Blink second Cauldron
- Astra from Unicorn avoids the Interrupt
- Burst down fast enough to kill before another Savage Cauldron

Don't forget to re-haste immediately after he uses Dispel at 50%.
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
04/30/19 10:48:31 AM
#362:


Do you have Tyro USB1 or Larsa USB1? If you do keep them wrathing like no tomorrow and read Hades' script to know when Black Cauldrons are coming.
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Kaxon
05/01/19 5:53:29 PM
#363:


Got my first daily 5* in a while, dupe Curilla LMR. Can't wait for elemental artifact weapons to use all these shards on.
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mccheyne
05/01/19 11:19:10 PM
#364:


Ixion down, 4th 4* magicite defeated. Bartz AASB is basically enough by itself, but paired with TGC USB w/earth sabre, its a massacre. Just need to make sure Arcs SSB goes off before savage aerospark. Though in my last run, he used it twice more. Unsure if scripted or not, though highly likely
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MalcolmMasher
05/01/19 11:33:41 PM
#365:


Pretty sure each of Ixion's phases starts with a sequence that includes Savage Aerospark somewhere; certain that he can use it at random, although it's one of those "can't randomly pick this action for the next 2 turns" moves. 'Course, sometimes the next 2 turns end up being Defense Form and Evasion Form.
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Xuxon
05/01/19 11:35:24 PM
#366:


yeah i fought ixion a few times after getting Bartz AASB to finish my 20 magicite quest at the end of March (Bartz AASB came out on the 29th lol so that tells you how much i procrastinated). thing just melts.

and speaking of procrastinating on the 20 magicite quest, i finished it yesterday taking down Geos for the first time. used Shantotto, Ashe, Tyro, Elarra, Vivi. took a while to figure out the right way to go about it. i give Shantotto a regular water resist accessory and start having her defend. she can't get a spell off before getting stunned anyway. this triggers her trance on the first aoe, and frees up the water+dark resist accessory for Vivi, just enough for him to survive and trigger his trance right after casting the USB1. i think this is the first difficult thing i've fought without giving Elarra curada; gave her allegro and the bard mag buff to make up for the lack of OK/gen2 chain. which i think makes sense with everything either being aoe or triggering trance.

i was actually kind of amazed at how perfectly my exact process works after failing miserably so many times. Ashe's first turn after USB is right after the chain, Shantotto has just enough meter to USB the turn after her chain (thanks to a partial Tyro entrust), Ashe gets just enough meter to AOSB just before she gets petrified. and the aforementioned trances.

good thing they gave us those extra rubies, let me make lunatic thunder and chain thundaja without having to fight anymore torments. next is probably phoenix, then with HP boon/blade ward/spell ward i will finally feel adequate defensively.
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mccheyne
05/02/19 10:29:14 AM
#367:


Did the FFV realm draw:

1/11: xezat USB

Its an ice boosting sword at least
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Kaxon
05/02/19 6:29:21 PM
#368:


I collected my 4 Arks yesterday. Now I'm down to just Adamantoise, Madeen, and Deathgaze.

My Adamantoise team is a mess but with Terra's AASB it seems like maybe it should be doable.

Against Madeen, I think my problem was survivability and not being able to knock her out of savage mode, and eventually dying to the attacks in savage mode. Not quite sure what I can do about that other than getting Deathgaze magicite to break savage mode. I could try a healer with last stand but the overall healing provided by Elarra is so much higher.

Against Deathgaze my biggest problem was how completely pathetic my damage is when he's in savage mode. I have TG Cid and WoL using their OSBs to knock him out of it but he uses it so much it wasn't enough. Maybe the answer is needing to use a dived Agrias to get better damage with imperil. I can also YOLO this one (Cecil's BUSB gives some healing and last stand, and WoL's chain gives a little healing) but without Elarra the team feels like it's moving so slow.
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MalcolmMasher
05/02/19 6:41:44 PM
#369:


Diving Agrias is what got me past Deathgaze. However, it seems like my holy tech is better than yours: Ramza chain, Orlandu USB, Marche USB, Agrias BSB (more imperil), and Larsa with Affliction Break and USB. So your tipping point might not be the same as mine.

If you need a source of quickcast, maybe try spamming Dedia with Elarra? Or Bard's 5* Attack Song, although I'd expect Dedia to work better 'cause it'll get her the bonus SB for hitting weakness.
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Kaxon
05/02/19 7:27:35 PM
#370:


Yeah, the biggest differences are I'm missing Ramza's chain and Marche's USB.

My auto-includes are:
- Orlandu USB/OSB/LMR
- Warrior of Light Chain/USB1/OSB/AOSB

Then my contenders for the remaining spots are:
- Ramza BSB2/USB1, doublecast LMR
- PCecil BUSB/GSB, enholy LMR
- Beatrix BSB1/BSB2/OSB, (doublecast LM2)
- Elarra USB
- Agrias BSB

Sadly PCecil's brave does not have cap break, instead it's 7 hits +4000 party HP stock
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
05/03/19 12:08:13 AM
#371:


Aw man I got so close to beating Lakshmi, but I ran outta hones.

YNOYSK1

Augh, really wish I had Riku or Orlandeau's awakenings right now.

Cloud wasn't cutting it either- He's too slow for this fight and I wasted dark orbs on Evil Press when I should have used them to make a second reaping scythe. Garland also being a liability for being a sucky knight since he can't use banishing strike when Seifer and fucking Golbez can. Tyro has to use one of his slots for dispel thanks to him so I can't use him as an entrustbot.
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Xuxon
05/03/19 1:54:59 AM
#372:


X - 1/11 Jecht BSB dupe

i might be done with these now
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Ultimaphazon
05/03/19 2:13:29 AM
#373:


Kaxon posted...
Yeah, the biggest differences are I'm missing Ramza's chain and Marche's USB.

My auto-includes are:
- Orlandu USB/OSB/LMR
- Warrior of Light Chain/USB1/OSB/AOSB

Then my contenders for the remaining spots are:
- Ramza BSB2/USB1, doublecast LMR
- PCecil BUSB/GSB, enholy LMR
- Beatrix BSB1/BSB2/OSB, (doublecast LM2)
- Elarra USB
- Agrias BSB

Sadly PCecil's brave does not have cap break, instead it's 7 hits +4000 party HP stock

I would try

Elarra with Dedia spam (slot 1 or 5 for maximum SB gauge and quickcast)
Beatrix with her BSB, maybe an OSB in her final 5 seconds
Orlandu (I have him in the middle so he doesn't get blinded and Osmosed)
Ramza
WoL

That's kinda similar to my team, that wins in 30-35 seconds
Aerith (USB2), Beatrix (BSB2+OSB), TGC (USB+OSB), Agrias (USB2), Edward (CSB)

I'm not sure you have enough imperil with just Dedia and Beatrix, but double boostga from Raider and Shout 2.0 might make up for that. At least your WoL can dps unlike my Edward, so that kinda compensates for gen 1 vs. gen 2.
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Xuxon
05/03/19 2:33:21 AM
#374:


is deathgaze all defense-ignoring or something? you mention raider but no Tyro.
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Ultimaphazon
05/03/19 2:37:50 AM
#375:


Yeah. He's all piercing and does very little damage. Dedia Elarra will heal you just fine.
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Xuxon
05/03/19 2:59:35 AM
#376:


that's interesting to know. wonder if i could do that one chainless then. Ignis to buff Marche crit/Orlandu crit damage and Agrias/Elarra to imperil. maybe Leo/Aeris instead of Marche/Elarra. would definitely still need Madeen first, at least.
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eaedwards6400
05/03/19 10:37:31 AM
#377:


Does anyone know if there will ever be a DREAM Chain Relics? If I could get Zach's Wind Chain I think my wind team would be unstoppable because I just got Bartz and Cloud AOSB.
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Ultimaphazon
05/03/19 10:45:19 AM
#378:


It was datamined in the last maintenance, but I don't believe I've seen a date.
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
05/03/19 12:12:06 PM
#379:


There was also no Dream Selects between 4A and the next fest in Japan so the chain dream select is global only which is why we have no idea when it's coming out (unless Dena pulls a Men of the Hour Lucky on us ant not give it at all)

I got a rainbow on the daily today, Agrias' unique, the lightning boosting sheild, dunno if I should keep it or not.
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WhiteLens
05/03/19 3:49:08 PM
#380:


Since there's a Type-0 event, decided to pull on the Type-0 Realm Banner

3/11

Cinque LM dupe
Machina OSB
Ace USB

Well, finally got something for Ace at least.

Oh yeah, and the daily pull gave me a Garland Unique SB relic. It's AoE dark imperil, so not the worst thing out there.
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mccheyne
05/03/19 4:49:29 PM
#381:


Pulled on the FFT realm banner

1/11: Delita AOSB

This game really wants me to use Delita, just got his glint a little while ago, and Im pretty sure I have his USB.

Also, can easily melt Ixion in around 15 seconds (record is 11.49), so its just Kraken and Tiamat before I unlock Hades and Siren. I think I have the tools to beat Tiamat (Squall BSB2 and AOSB, Ayame BSB and AOSB, maybe Bartz AASB to get auto DC snowspell strikes), but Im not sure about Kraken, especially with the counters he tosses out.
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
05/04/19 12:14:45 AM
#382:


Auuugh I finally beat this bitch! Those of you with Riku or Sephiroth's awakening, consider yourself blessed you can wreck her before she does her status effect BS, me I had to slug it the hard way with no quickcast since I had to keep wrathing/entrusting Larsa.

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Lolo_Guru
05/04/19 3:39:56 AM
#383:


So, I've literally never used thief skills in this game.

And it saw fit to give me zidane's Awakening on the 15 mythril ffix pull.

So what should I make/hone for the occasion, ability-wise?
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Xuxon
05/04/19 3:44:30 AM
#384:


i forget the name of it but there's a 6* thief wind ability for rubies, that's what you want
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MalcolmMasher
05/04/19 10:10:37 AM
#385:


Yeah, 6* Storm Assault is what you're looking for: five hits of wind damage, drains HP. You'll need to spend five Thief Motes on Zidane in order to unlock access to 6* Thief Abilities before he can use it. If you don't have rubies and crystals to spare, there's also the 5* Dash and Slash, which does four hits of wind damage and deals increased damage if a dagger is equipped.

Thief also has equivalent Fire abilities (6* Fire Assault and 5* Heat Bite), the 5* Soul Burn which deals fire damage and hits harder at low HP, and some once-respectable Non-Elementals (6* Mug Bloodlust, robs Atk/Def, and 5* Thief's Revenge, 5-hit drain). If you want to use Zidane off-element, those are your options.

Steal Power and Steal Defense can be useful, but they do not deal damage and so are wasted turns under an Awakening.

Also, if you haven't dived Zidane, it's something to think about: while many characters get omni-quickcast under Trance, Zidane gets instant Thief.
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Ultimaphazon
05/04/19 2:25:56 PM
#386:


Got a disco on the daily today: Yang AOSB

I already had his USB from a previous RoP, so with those two relics he's a pretty amazing earth monk.
The problem is, I also have Tifa's best stuff, and I feel she's probably the stronger monk.
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mccheyne
05/04/19 2:49:35 PM
#387:


Disco on the daily as well, though it was a dupe. Larsa USB.

I should actually start looking back into the torments and at least get all the 240/280s done. Maybe try a couple D??? to see how far I can get.
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Whiskey_Nick
05/04/19 2:52:01 PM
#388:


240's aren't too bad to Master

some of the 280s are very hard

i have not beaten a ??? yet
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Kaxon
05/05/19 2:09:12 AM
#389:


Whoops, I started a post and apparently never finished it. I got my first kill against Madeen, I discovered by accident that Golbez's BSB has radiant shield as dark. I used it very late because he was out of hones and Madeen ended up killing herself when only Elarra was left alive. After that I changed my plan to use his BSB earlier and got 2 more kills, hopefully can get #4 later today.
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
05/05/19 9:14:47 PM
#390:


100 gem'd Jack's USB! Another good fire USB to add the pile as I wallow in regret of no fire chain.
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Ultimaphazon
05/06/19 3:20:53 AM
#391:


I added II to my list of mastered D??? torments.
The time was barely sub-50; not amazing, but good enough for now.

Y2e7aIk

Maria USB+BSB - spamming CStoneja and CStonega, then BSB
Minwu SSB+BSB(1? Hastega+Regen) - opens with Hastega, spams Holyja, refreshes Haste after~20seconds with his BSB and emergency heals with IC SSB
Emperor BSB2(enearth)+USB1(imperil) - Opens with Shellga, then Meltdown spam
Firion BSB+AOSB - Mostly Fire samurai spam, He gets enough gauge for a few IC blinks. Removes ProShellga in phase 4 with Banishing Strike
Hilda BSB - Uses lots of AcM, and overwrites the Atk&Mag buff when necessary

Maria, Firion, and Hilda were fully dived. Firion had w-cast Samurai and Minwu had w-cast white.

Between all the magic blinks and two medicas, damage really wasn't too bad, as long as I managed to overwrite the buff.
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DoomTheGyarados
05/07/19 9:33:35 AM
#392:


Was in the ER Sunday so I bought a big pouch of gems and spent it on stuff.

Eight USB
Rem Awakening
Rem USB
Rem LM
Bartz Wind USB
Krile Bravery USB
Auron USB (Lost Arts)
Braska USB
Vanille BSB
Meliadoul USB
Wakka USB (Auroch's shot)

Also some LMs and BSBs that aren't terribly useful to me offhand.

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mccheyne
05/08/19 9:30:18 AM
#393:


So apparently I had gotten 30.01 on the 280 torment Gilgamesh. Brought in Bartz USB and managed to get 23ish seconds, so got those extra 30 rubies. Again, should really look at sub30ing as many 240/280s that I can. I have Terras awakening, so I should be able to get that on Wrexsoul hopefully
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
05/08/19 11:22:35 PM
#394:


Holy shit I did it! The beast is finally slain!

BbZoJDf

Sub30 to boot! (granted I was really, really lucky with doublecasts) Even after that the fact I have to get 3 more is still giving me the willies.

Just two more 5* magicite and I can fight Odin, if I can fluke 3 more times I think I can beat the Toise finally.
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Kaxon
05/09/19 3:48:34 AM
#395:


I killed Deathgaze once, but god what a stupid fight that is. All about trying to time your attacks to land when rage mode is broken, and hoping to get lucky with dodging the worst doom counter BS with Affliction Break.
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Xuxon
05/10/19 12:40:45 AM
#396:


did the new event type. pretty easy for me since my FFX team is set up perfectly to bring Bartz with AASB and Elarra as two off-realm characters. thing hits pretty hard so i stacked 3 breaks between Rikku and Elarra. killed it in just under 20s with Tidus AOSB.
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Ultimaphazon
05/10/19 3:44:24 AM
#397:


I'm trying it with a full FFX team, and it's significantly harder than I expected. Damage is higher than expected, and he 's quite bulky with the def buff. I might have to re-craft Armor Break to remove the buff.

If I really can't win with a full FFX team, I'll bring 1-2 off-realm characters, but for now, I enjoy actually having a new challenging fight for once.
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Whiskey_Nick
05/10/19 7:53:39 AM
#398:


Got to 80% on 350

My 5th member is the weak link.

Tidus/Wakka/Rikku/Yuna all work well together. No one else really clicks. Lulu adding to the Water chain is ok
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05/10/19 9:37:07 AM
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Kaxon
05/10/19 9:03:23 PM
#400:


Alright, 29.89 on the d350 dreams first try. Glad I don't have to run that one again. I did a full realm team but it sounds like you're not punished for 2 offrealm characters which would make this a LOT easier with Bartz and Elarra.
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