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Kaxon
04/01/19 6:29:25 PM
#151:


mccheyne posted...
So I have Bartz basically everything, now including glint and awakening. Whats the best way to set him up? I dont have any chains that could help him with his 4 major elements


If you have no chains you absolutely need to buff him some other way. Either imperiling or Ignis's BSB are your best bets (or Tyro USB4 if you have it).

As far as what you actually do with Bartz:

If you're using him for wind, USB3->AASB will be your best plan.

For the other elements I'd do some testing to see what performs the best between Glint->AASB, enElement BSB->AASB, or USB2->AASB. Probably glint is better when you're short on SB, USB2 if the boss hits you a lot. But I'm just guessing.
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eaedwards6400
04/01/19 6:29:51 PM
#152:


I'm sure some of you have done this already but I finally got all of my none Core characters to 99.
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HBJDubs
04/01/19 7:57:17 PM
#153:


2/11

Faris BSB
Bartz Awakening

Welp I got my top prize. If I can nab Cloud and/or Rosa USB I'll be real happy
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mccheyne
04/01/19 10:32:26 PM
#154:


Kaxon posted...
mccheyne posted...
So I have Bartz basically everything, now including glint and awakening. Whats the best way to set him up? I dont have any chains that could help him with his 4 major elements


If you have no chains you absolutely need to buff him some other way. Either imperiling or Ignis's BSB are your best bets (or Tyro USB4 if you have it).

As far as what you actually do with Bartz:

If you're using him for wind, USB3->AASB will be your best plan.

For the other elements I'd do some testing to see what performs the best between Glint->AASB, enElement BSB->AASB, or USB2->AASB. Probably glint is better when you're short on SB, USB2 if the boss hits you a lot. But I'm just guessing.


Awesome, thanks!

Took Terras awakening on a test run against Isgebind. Dead in just under 18 seconds. No chain, just OKs mUSB. Used her USB once too, unsure if the enfires stack, but after that, and using king bomb magicite, meltdowns were hitting for 15k a pop, so 120k per double cast. Godddddaaaammmnnnn
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Grapple M1
04/01/19 11:54:20 PM
#155:


mccheyne posted...
Awesome, thanks!

Took Terras awakening on a test run against Isgebind. Dead in just under 18 seconds. No chain, just OKs mUSB. Used her USB once too, unsure if the enfires stack, but after that, and using king bomb magicite, meltdowns were hitting for 15k a pop, so 120k per double cast. Godddddaaaammmnnnn

Glints are the only thing that allow en-elements to stack (aside from some very rare examples like...Sephiroth's USB is the only thing that comes to mind.)
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MalcolmMasher
04/02/19 12:03:43 AM
#156:


As I understand it, "you can now stack en-element" is a 25s buff provided by en-element Glints. So Terra USB and Terra Awakening glints will not stack. The quick cast from the USB will still apply during the Awakening, though, so I expect it's still a good opener.

Cleared Phoenix, made my fourth and final draw on this banner: 6/11 with Faris USB, two copies of Rosa USB, one Rosa LMR, and my fourth and fifth copies of Bartz's Bracers. This fest has been good to me, and it's time to start working on some Magicite clears.
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Lolo_Guru
04/02/19 12:09:49 AM
#157:


So.

THIS GACHA.

THIS.

GACHA.

So I scrounge up the 3rd set of 50 mythril for this banner.
3/11, looking good, right? Sure, only one of them is a 6*, but... pretty much any of the 6* are winners in my book.

So, I get a Magic Bow dupe, a Nail Bat (eh), and...

Bartz's...
Apocalypse. AKA, Overstrike.

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Kaxon
04/02/19 4:17:30 AM
#158:


What do people think of the core banner? I'm leaning more toward doing it since I'm seeing the value of crit buffs combined with awakenings.

My basic thoughts:
- It's not quite as exciting as fest banners
- But buy 2 get 1 free is a good value
- It kinda fits my current needs better than b5

B5 has characters I love who I already have stuff for and would like to upgrade... but on the other hand I already beat Syldra, and with Bartz now I crush Phoenix in 20 seconds. Shadow would be hard to fit on my dark team.

For core banner:
- Wedge is a solid wind mage option which I really need right now
- Dr. Mog's USB basically combines OK mUSB and USB3 into one soul break, but with different elements. Sadly Wind isn't one of those elements, but Holy is.
- Tyro's USB4 seems great with awakenings
- Elarra's USB2 can be useful combined with Tyro's, or with Cloud USB1
- Elarra USB1 is a dupe, if it weren't this would be an easy pull
- Biggs is totally useless to me.

There is also the Dissidia banner, which has some stuff I'm not crazy about, but I could really use Golbez's chain.
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Ultimaphazon
04/02/19 6:55:54 AM
#159:


Personally, I feel Mog, Wedge and Biggs are all useless for my teams. The only things that would help me at all are Tyro USB4 and Elarra USB2 (USB1 is a dupe) and that's just not worth 100 mythril.
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handsomeboy2012
04/02/19 9:17:29 AM
#160:


Managed to scrape another 50 myth for banner 4. Just give me an AASB or Chain, even one is fine
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
04/02/19 10:25:39 AM
#161:


At first I felt the core banner was an auto pull because of the above average USBs and glints, but after getting OK USB3 and Terra's awakening Wedge seems useless now, especially since I already have Barbarbiccia's USB and am already good on phsyical wind.

Dr. Mog USB would be fantastic for Typhon and Ark though, and Biggs is pretty underrated since his USB always triggers an overstrike which is extremely useful against Deathgaze (unless you got Roxas Awakening or one of the later physical awakenings then yeah he's useless)

Tyro and Elara are obviously good.

Still leaning towards pulling for the most part.
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handsomeboy2012
04/02/19 12:39:18 PM
#162:


Final pull, down to 0 mythril.

2/11
Terra AASB
Cloud Glint

I'll take it, but much prefer Faris CSB with wind being the only element I don't have a chain for.
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mccheyne
04/02/19 6:47:14 PM
#163:


Another question (sorry, Ill always come up with more lol), regarding magicite inheritance.

I know inheriting another dampen element is definitely a good idea, but is it worth it to inherit an empower on another empower also? I figured Id do it for magic and attack boon. Just trying to figure out how many copies of 4* magicite to farm, current from Isgebind. Can now beat him very consistently at 17-18s thanks mostly to Terras awakening, but him and Maralis are the only 4*s Ive beaten (though I havent tried the others).
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Lopen
04/02/19 6:52:33 PM
#164:


It's usually not a bad idea but it depends on the secondary ability of the magicite. Some you'll want to run two of them naturally so you won't want to give both of them empowers.

Try to aim for 2 or 3 empowers on your team. Inherit an empower if you have to to reach that but just be careful that you don't hit a situation where you're getting 4 empower sources.
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HBJDubs
04/02/19 8:53:47 PM
#165:


3/22 on two more draws

Rosa Glint
Rosa USB
Cloud ASB

I'd like to get Cloud USB but I'm gonna cash out here and put the rest of my chips toward Tidus Awakening
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
04/02/19 9:01:28 PM
#166:


100 Gemmed Laguna's glint! Very nice! Ice Boosting armor too!
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Lopen
04/02/19 9:14:10 PM
#167:


1/11 Celes Chain

Not bad I wanted a chain upgrade

1/11 Shadow LMR

Zzzzzzz

3/11 Tidus Awakening Shadow Ultra Laguna Ultra

Well that's very nice for sure. I really wanted Vanille Ultra but I can't justify drawing more. I can maybe get it later on an XIII banner or dream select.

Finally some luck. Two more 1/11s though feeding the theory the guaranteed math got screwed with
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Xuxon
04/02/19 9:28:46 PM
#168:


4/11
Vanille LMR
Celes LMR
Laguna USB x2

hmm. having Bartz awakening, Serah chain, and Vanille USB2 my need for this banner is much lower now. think i'll stop there.
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mccheyne
04/02/19 10:46:46 PM
#169:


2/11

Tidus LMR
Laguna glint

Meh. May try to scrounge up enough for one more pull.
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DoomTheGyarados
04/03/19 8:01:10 AM
#170:


Rage gemmed

Tidus AASB
Celes USB
Vanille USB.

After having already pulled shadow and Laguna usb
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Ultimaphazon
04/03/19 9:26:20 AM
#171:


Nice. So many successful rage-pulls recently. Those are very dangerous things to read.
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Lopen
04/03/19 12:39:33 PM
#172:


I've rage gemmed twice. Once I got my item after 3x11 pulls (and it totally was not worth that). Once I gave up after 1.

Don't believe the lies of rage gems working
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WhiteLens
04/03/19 12:56:15 PM
#173:


6/11

Vanille Glint x2
Vanille USB
Laguna USB
Celes USB
Tidus Awakening

That looks like a really good pull to me.
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Kaxon
04/03/19 4:39:41 PM
#174:


It's amazing - congrats.
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Kaxon
04/03/19 10:11:57 PM
#175:


Alright, decided to get serious and take down Torment Gilgamesh. I cut Xezat who was just doing max Snowspell Strikes at normal speed and put in Faris as an entruster instead. That let me use Gilgamesh's earth chain instead of the realm chain, gave me plenty of healing, and let me use his earth imperil BSB along with his chain and USB. Kill was in 37.94... I might be able to lower that by using an earth magicite as my primary (I was using Enkidu, but never needed it because I blasted through phase 2 before the second Flash hit). But on the other hand Bartz got 3 doublestrikes in awakening mode so not sure if I could save much time (and I also don't have Adamantoise yet).
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ChichiriMuyo
04/04/19 2:53:23 AM
#176:


Sorry if this has been asked, but it's 44 topics deep now

If I have Flower of the Slums and Healer's Prayer II on Aeris do I have two small chances at white magic spells triggering twice (but twice implying no way a third time) or do they counteract each other leaving just one small chance?
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Kaxon
04/04/19 3:53:36 AM
#177:


Yes - they're independent... but Healer's Prayer II is pretty bad, it's only a 15% chance. Flower of the Slums is 25%. So with both you have a 32.5% chance of two casts and 3.75% chance of three casts.
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
04/04/19 10:46:53 AM
#178:


I got Montblanc's super on the daily today, I thought it was useless at first since it's a poor man's OK mUSB but I also remembered he has IC3 and can take OK's job as the booster so OK can go offensive quicker with his USB3.

Probably not worth diving at the moment, he has two LMR but neither of them are dualcast for some reason, but something to consider in the future.
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Ultimaphazon
04/04/19 5:31:43 PM
#179:


K4zPLH0

Thanks Terra Awakening.
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eaedwards6400
04/04/19 6:24:37 PM
#180:


Can anyone Shout and use Dance 5*
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MalcolmMasher
04/04/19 6:45:50 PM
#181:


If by "Shout" you mean "Party Haste & Attack Up", then Tyro with his USB...3, I think. The "17 hits of laughable damage, party Haste, party Atk/Mag/Mnd/Def/Res up 15%" one.
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Kaxon
04/04/19 7:01:30 PM
#182:


Rikku with Hyper Mighty G.
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Xuxon
04/04/19 7:02:37 PM
#183:


Rikku is much better for that, more atk/mag with protect/shell as well.

not many 50% atk buffs with haste out there, and i don't think anyone that has one of those can dance (off the top of my head, it's just Onion Knight, Cid Highwind, Quina, Reks and Ramza, none of which can dance). there are two dancers with 50% atk buff chains - Rikku again, and Faris.
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HBJDubs
04/04/19 8:09:44 PM
#184:


I should have known that getting lucky with Bartz on B4 meant I was gonna whiff on B5. Did four pulls and got:

Laguna Glint
Laguna LM
Celes Glint (2x)
Celes LM
Celes USB
Vanille Glint
Vanille USB (2x)

Personal bust for me since no Tidus and I could have stopped after pull 2 when I got all the Vanille stuff (which was badly needed since her SSB has been my only healing option for the longest time in FFXIII). Sad thing is I might do another pull since I'm at 350 mythril before it closes
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Xuxon
04/04/19 8:42:04 PM
#185:


shoot i thought the crystal tower was ending today but apparently it was yesterday. i need to stop waiting to do those until the last minute.
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
04/04/19 9:07:19 PM
#186:


I 100 gemmed Beatrix USB! Did not expect that right after I just 100 gemmed Laguna's Glint and got a rainbow on the daily today.

lc8JDKX

If only I had this kind of luck during banner 4....
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eaedwards6400
04/04/19 9:29:27 PM
#187:


Xuxon posted...
shoot i thought the crystal tower was ending today but apparently it was yesterday. i need to stop waiting to do those until the last minute.


Me too. I was really upset that's some good 5* motes I lost out on.
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
04/04/19 10:33:40 PM
#188:


Uggggggh The Apoc Bandersnatch CM fight in the FF9 event has to be the most BS non-magicite/Torment/Fest fight since the Valgarmadia that spammed stop. They use a 100% sleep attack frequently and you can't do anything unless you have Qunia's BSB2 to prevent it.

I gave up trying to do the CM and just switched to OK/Terra/Sazh and had Terra used Awakening Valis to kill them before they could do their sleep shit.
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Kaxon
04/05/19 12:39:49 AM
#189:


SSJSephirothGokuX123 posted...
I 100 gemmed Beatrix USB! Did not expect that right after I just 100 gemmed Laguna's Glint and got a rainbow on the daily today.


Man... I love Beatrix, but I hate Steiner and Kuja so much I'm not even willing to spend 100 gems on this banner. If there were ever a IX banner that had Zidane, Vivi, Beatrix, Eiko, and/or Garnet with no awful Steiner and Kuja I would be all over it. But it basically never happens.
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Kaxon
04/05/19 12:40:52 AM
#190:


Banner 2 in this event is decent, except I already have two 6* dupes.
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mccheyne
04/05/19 9:22:52 AM
#191:


Got Kelgers glint off the daily. That should help his USB
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Kaxon
04/05/19 3:39:18 PM
#192:


Decided to go back and try Quetz again with Bartz AASB. My old time was a surprisingly bad 47.xx. But since then I've added Bartz AASB (and en-Earth BSB), Cinque USB, and Elarra USB. I was able to just barely get in sub-30, which was satisfying.

Anyone who actually has Tyro's USB4, how good is it? I'm leaning toward skipping the core banner so I can just save for Dissidia / Orlandu Awakening / Wind Terra / next fest.
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Xuxon
04/05/19 7:51:18 PM
#193:


i did my first 5* magicite today. hecatoncheir in 20s. i used Cloud, Bartz, Ignis, Faris, Elarra.

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eaedwards6400
04/05/19 8:19:36 PM
#194:


https://imgur.com/a/f8wMrms

This was incredibly frustrating to lose.
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Kaxon
04/05/19 8:28:56 PM
#195:


Xuxon posted...
i'm surprised you could barely sub-30 Quetz with that stuff. was that without a chain or something?


Yeah, I think I need an entruster. I can beat Phoenix in 20s with 3/5 of the same team (Bartz, Elarra, Edge) but with Tidus/Ramza instead of Galuf/Cinque. So my main question right now is whether I do the BSB select for Ignis, or if I do the core banner trying to get Tyro's USB4 (and then probably select DVG if I do get it). Tyro seems a bit better but costs 100 more mythril (although $30 less) and isn't guaranteed
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
04/06/19 12:11:54 AM
#196:


Thanks to Beatrix USB and finally creating Healing Smite I got torment 2 Meltagemini beaten and got all current neo torment second phases sub30'd! But man that incubus doomsday huuuurts.

Spent all those earth crystals I was saving to r5 the 6* physical dark ability on Healing Smite to get it to r5 so Beatrix can do max chases, but now I gotta get 120 earth crystals by the 24th...

Ugh FF2 is going to be another wall since I have no good DPS for that realm.
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Lopen
04/06/19 12:17:48 PM
#197:


I would actually be interested in drawing for Dr Mog. Shame every other RK original character is lame. Can't draw on this banner.
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
04/06/19 12:32:19 PM
#198:


The banner also goes away when the fest ends so I won't be able to get enough mythril to do two pulls by then, looks like I'm gonna skip this one, not worth the gems to make up the cost for a second pull.

I decided to do the FF3 RoP since I'm skipping this- 1/3 Refia en fire LMR. Well at least it's new (and cute)
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Kaxon
04/06/19 8:38:48 PM
#199:


Dream selects should start tonight, which ones are you doing?

I feel like spending more than $60 is kind of crazy... I might go to $90 but more than that is excessive.

OSB - obvious skip.
Glint - Cloud's is the only one that might be worth paying for but I already beat Hecatoncheir. Skip.
LMRs - less game changing than USB/AOSB but apparently they're the ones that take the longest to collect with Anima Lenses so I'm not sure.
BSB - Paying $30 for a BSB at this point in time seems crazy, but I kinda think Ignis might help me more than anything else right now.
USB - Lots of decent options, but because the pool is so old I don't feel like there's any I have to have. Maybe Divine Veil Grimoire (then I would probably skip Ignis and use Tyro when I need to entrust)
AOSB - Nice to have but I'm not sure if any get me across the line in any fight. It does seem like the 20 hit kind are a lot more future proof than the 3 hit kind since they can do 500k with Awakenings.
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Xuxon
04/06/19 8:43:47 PM
#200:


Kaxon posted...
Glint - Cloud's is the only one that might be worth paying for but I already beat Hecatoncheir. Skip.

but have you beaten Lakshimi? the dark glint is the only one you should be considering, with the 6* wind glint coming in the future.
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