Board 8 > Final Fantasy Record Keeper: 44th topic for 4th anniversary

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Grapple M1
03/23/19 12:50:44 AM
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List of B8 RW.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GTAEcEAjw57qTwXc71egRGDWQq_L1TrdNJdarRbYyJk/edit#gid=585371231

Enlir's spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16K1Zryyxrh7vdKVF1f7eRrUAOC5wuzvC3q2gFLch6LQ/edit#gid=938172420

MisterP's pdf:
http://happypluto.com/~misterp/r/ffrk.pdf

Something something witty comment something something
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Ultimaphazon
03/23/19 2:28:21 AM
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Luneth OSB dupe.
Sucks that it's a dupe, but there are worse things to dupe than a 6* windboost weapon.
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mccheyne
03/23/19 3:39:32 AM
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Tag.

Onion Knight OSB dupe. Now an 8*.

Not ideal
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Xuxon
03/23/19 9:36:31 AM
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just got Locke's AOSB from the daily draw. i have arguably gotten better stuff from the daily draw these past 15 days than RoP. it's essentially Locke AOSB + Relm LMR vs Vanille USB2 + Quistis USB + Yda USB + Ingus LMR.
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eaedwards6400
03/23/19 3:41:09 PM
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Tag
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Lopen
03/23/19 4:30:31 PM
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Ingus BSB (Radiant Shield)

Nothing I care about but better than average for this RoP.
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
03/23/19 9:04:53 PM
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Got Gordon BSB, it's new but 10+ attack on a character that doesn't do damage anyway.

Guh I really needed a DPS USB for this realm with the Torment next month, all I have is Firion USB1, all I can do now is hope he gets the knight *5 buff early.
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Lopen
03/23/19 9:52:58 PM
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I got Hilda's LMR

I guess that'll be good if I ever get anything else for her.

When do the new 6* Dark abilities come out anyway. I think I can beat Madeen but I need Necro Count cause Dark Mage Dark Knight Cecil (strangely effective) is running out of Dark Zones
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Xuxon
03/23/19 9:58:50 PM
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my first 2/3 this rop and it's on the worst realm, of course

Leon USB dupe
Gordon LMR
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Kaxon
03/23/19 10:06:36 PM
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Minwu BSB, bleh. +10 mind I guess.

30 hours til gift draws, hope I get something good.

I might do the USB pull if the whole pool is just USBs (since then it's average of 2 USBs for 25 mythril with a chance for more, instead of 1 + some 5* junk)
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
03/23/19 11:13:12 PM
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April 24th is when the new Dark Abilities (and probably Chain Tornado and Holyja)

I think it was all USBs last fest's lucky draw? If so it should be the same, assuming Dena doesn't backpedal (which is a legit concern though.)
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Lopen
03/24/19 12:38:55 AM
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It was all LMRs and all OSBs so not all USBs would be strange
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Kaxon
03/24/19 1:17:14 AM
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Guess I need to decide whether that's worth it then. I'm still kind of leaning toward no since it's so much of a crapshoot but I should look at the relic list.
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Lopen
03/24/19 3:16:22 AM
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Pretty sure USB lucky has better expected value than Realms on Parade for most realms considering all the bad bursts, overstrikes, and legend materia out there.
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mccheyne
03/24/19 9:51:30 AM
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Ricard BSB dupe
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Ultimaphazon
03/24/19 10:38:44 AM
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2/3 (my second for this RoP)

Ricard BSB dupe
Emperor BSB2 (Earth+ rod)
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Kaxon
03/24/19 1:07:58 PM
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Lopen posted...
Pretty sure USB lucky has better expected value than Realms on Parade for most realms considering all the bad bursts, overstrikes, and legend materia out there.


Interesting. This made me compare the EV for 25 mythril on the lucky draw vs 25 mythril doing the ROP for I-V (because those were the first numbers I saw, although arguably I and II are some of the weakest realms so the numbers might be better if you looked at VI-X). I'm assuming .14 chance of a disco/rainbow on the ones that aren't guaranteed.

Lucky draw: 2.4 USBs
Realms:
0.32 AOSB
0.21 CSB
1.56 USB
4.31 5* or OSB

If you value the 5* stuff at all I think Realms is a better deal (especially since Arcanes and Chains are usually better than Ultras) but it's a lot closer than I realized.
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Lopen
03/24/19 1:49:29 PM
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Pretty sure the weakest realms for ROP are gonna be like FFVI and FFX and FFXII because there are a bunch of garbage overstrikes and outdated bursts in there. Pools are way more diluted even if they have more appealing things at the top end.

But yeah still I think if you're doing all the ROP the USB lucky should still be on your plate is all. Same kinda idea applies to them, superior mythril efficiency over being able to focus your efforts
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Xuxon
03/24/19 1:51:10 PM
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not close at all imo. most USBs are damaging and have little future value. chains are better than even the best USBs. AOSBs aren't always great but at least they aren't about to be obsoleted. even LMRs will soon be more important than USBs, though there are admittedly a lot more useless LMRs than USBs right now and a lot of the good LMRs haven't come out yet.
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Lopen
03/24/19 2:00:36 PM
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In theory that way of thinking makes sense. In practice not so much.

1. Awakening soulbreaks are stronger than USBs but you're not going to have a team full of Awakening users for most situations for a LONG time. The game moved away from the idea of having a single "A-Tteam" a long time ago
2. Many Awakening soulbreaks stack favorably with USBs
3. A lot of USBs are healing or buff type

I mean there are some bad USBs in there but most of them are still good.
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Ultimaphazon
03/24/19 3:01:45 PM
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I'm pulling on the USB LD. There's certainly a risk of getting crap, but the way I see it, any healer USB or slotsaver USB is going to be a major help for their torment, which is still the hardest content, with the possible exception of Syldra.
Even among dps USBs, there's quite a few that work really well with Awakenings, not to mention you're unlikely to field a full team of Awakenings anytime soon.
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
03/24/19 4:40:14 PM
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Only ability double USBs are going to be made truly obsolete by Awakenings (even then Vivi's USB1 will have it uses though since it's Black Magic double and his Awakening is double fire) You also have to be aware that Awakenings can only be used once per dungeon, while that's not an issue now since most awakenings are overkill for 5* magicite and torments, Odin has 3 million HP so he can outlast the awakening if you're not stacked enough and 6* magicite have been confirmed in Japan and those likely will be designed to be built around awakenings and outlast them as well.

Also remember it's once per dungeon as well and in the upcoming Battle Square USBs have the advantage there since it's a gauntlet of separate dungeons.
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Kaxon
03/24/19 6:43:53 PM
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One thing this did make me realize is I should really skip the 1 ROP. It's less than 20% USB when most realms are more like 25-30%. It has two chains but one is a dupe for me and one is inferior to Seifer's which I have. WOL's AOSB is a dupe for me too.

I am going to do the USB draw, I figure the upside is worth it. Since it's all USB, going 3/11 or 4/11 is a lot better than on a regular banner.
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Lopen
03/24/19 6:46:41 PM
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Yeah I would say if you're debating skipping the USB lucky at all you should consider skipping the 5 weakest RoP at minimum as I'm sure the 5 worst ROP would probably be on average worse than the USB lucky
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
03/24/19 7:07:15 PM
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I'd skip the FF1 banner if I wasn't so desperate for a holy chain, you borderline need one for Deathgaze since it's a DPS race against his doom and status effects.
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Lolo_Guru
03/24/19 8:42:39 PM
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so... I haven't played this in months.

Have 164 mythril.
have what, 15 15-mythril draws possible? and luckies?

so I guess I need to farm up as much mythril as possible and pick and choose which?

wait, there's 5 mythril for 3-draws AND 15 myth for 11-draws? O_O

too much

Did the 5-mythril for V and got Bartz's chicken knife. I'm happy. =D
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Xuxon
03/24/19 8:50:18 PM
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it's 17 draws, they're 5 each. USB lucky in 10 minutes. that's 110 mythril, so you can do them all.

though depending on how many months you meant, there may also be the 15 mythril draws. those will last a couple months longer, so plenty of time for them, and you may want to just skip them since they're not actually going away, just getting refreshed with better relics added.
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Lolo_Guru
03/24/19 8:55:28 PM
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ok so the 15 for 11 will be around a long while so don't worry about them?
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
03/24/19 8:59:08 PM
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In about 2/3 months the 15 mythril realm banners reset with updated relics.
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Lolo_Guru
03/24/19 8:59:54 PM
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SSJSephirothGokuX123 posted...
In about 2/3 months the 15 mythril realm banners reset with updated relics.

probably better to wait for the update unless I need the relics now, then.
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WhiteLens
03/24/19 9:02:55 PM
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1/11

Haurchefant USB

I feel like this would have meant something had I played through the Heavensward expansion in FFXIV.
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Lolo_Guru
03/24/19 9:03:20 PM
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blah just Emperor's USB on the lucky
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Kaxon
03/24/19 9:04:14 PM
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Just 1/11, Yuffie's washing machine USB. At least it's a decent one and not a dupe, but definitely not what I was hoping for here.
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
03/24/19 9:05:34 PM
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Got Sarah USB1 on the RoP, not bad I guess.

Overall-

T-0- Rem USB1
Tactics-Ovelia LM (Dupe)
15-Skip
14-Papalymo LM (dupe)
13-Sazh BSB (dupe)
12-Larsa USB
11-Skip
10-Tidus OSB (dupe)
9-Beatrix BSB1 (dupe)
8-Raijin BSB (dupe)
7-Sephiroth Glint
6-Edgar AOSB
5-Bartz BSB1 (dupe)
4-Edge USB (dupe)
3-skip
2-Gordon BSB
1-Sarah USB1

Yikes, the top 3 relics are pretty good and probably worth the mythril but everything else besides Sarah USB was awful!
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Lopen
03/24/19 9:09:51 PM
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1/3 Meia OSB
1/11 Edgar USB (dupe)

Really bad luck continues. Only relic in the past 300 mythril I actually would draw for is Penelo USB
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Lolo_Guru
03/24/19 9:18:55 PM
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Maria just gained a Magia Lv.

What in the world is that?

ok nvm game's explaining it to me
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
03/24/19 9:20:28 PM
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It's a bonus for level 99 characters, it's a point you can use to to increase a stat or elemental damage/resistance.
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Lolo_Guru
03/24/19 9:23:24 PM
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SSJSephirothGokuX123 posted...
It's a bonus for level 99 characters, it's a point you can use to to increase a stat or elemental damage/resistance.

sounds like it's finally time to use all my growth eggs.
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Xuxon
03/24/19 9:29:00 PM
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1/3 Matoya USB
1/11 Terra USB2

Matoya USB could be useful if i do the torment before it's powercrept by off-realm AASBs, particularly since i have her LMR. Terra... not sure if i'd even use this over her glint.
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
03/24/19 9:40:27 PM
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I though Terra's USB2 was a dud at first when I got it but it helped me beat Manticore chainless.

Unless you also get Terra's Awakening later then yeah it's useless...
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DoomTheGyarados
03/24/19 9:58:22 PM
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Galuf's buff USB...nice.
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Kaxon
03/24/19 10:29:59 PM
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Jump rope is more annoying than I expected, partly because of the touchscreen. I got the USB but I'm not sure if I'm going to bother getting the 120 major orbs even though it's only 20 jumps more...
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mccheyne
03/24/19 10:40:17 PM
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1/11 (it seems everyone is getting this, at least here)

Kelger USB

This........actually looks pretty good
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
03/24/19 11:41:30 PM
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Gotta say the multiplayer made me feel like a hero, I kept failing it several times tonight due to lag, people not attacking, status effects ect but I final got a team of randoms that got through it, they blew their Orlandeau and Sora early with doublecasts and left Tifa as the only DPS with two Elaras, Aerith,Tyro and my Larsa.

Tifa used her USB2 dualcasts Ironfist Earths and then the earth Fires Within to keep her alive during the third and fourth repaired phases, let the other guys escape and her and Larsa were the last two left. I wrathed up two bars on Larsa so he could use them during the last repaired phase and had Tifa use her AOSB to KO X-ATM in one turn, and we escaped and finally cleared this one.
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HBJDubs
03/24/19 11:59:03 PM
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recent draws

Dailies: dupes of Krile BSB and Golbez BSB
Acolyte III pick: Minwu SSB
FFI Realm: Master BSB 2x, Warrior of Light OSB
LM Lucky: Firion LM (dupe), Cid Raines LM
USB Lucky: Refia USB (dupe), Mustadio USB

LotR:

Type-0 - Machina USB
Tactics - TGC OSB (dupe, my sixth one!)
XV - Ignis LM
XIV - Alphinaud Brave
XIII - Lightning BSB2 (dupe)
XII - Balthier LM
XI - Shantotto ASB
X - Rikku USB (dupe)
IX - Marcus BSB
VIII - Squall USB1 (dupe)
VII - Sephiroth BSB
VI - Mog LM
V - Galuf LM (dupe)
IV - Rosa USB (dupe)
III - Luneth LM
II - Josef BSB
I - Warrior of Light Glint

Realm draws a bit of a bust thanks to the dupes but still a couple of good things there. I don't know how good Alph's Brave is if I already have his Teraflare USB though
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
03/25/19 12:28:50 AM
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FYI the Record Dungeons in the 4th anniversary fest are 0 stamina but still give Magia points! Farm 'em while you can!
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Ultimaphazon
03/25/19 1:11:55 AM
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2/11
Setzer USB and Eiko USB. Setzer obviously sucks in today's top content, but Eiko will be super useful against Meltigemini. I should be able to beat this one now.

1/3
Garland doublecast LMR: this goes great with his chain that i pulled last RoP. It comes at the perfect time too, because I'm farming good old Madeen like there's no tomorrow.
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Kaxon
03/25/19 4:09:44 AM
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Wow, 40 draw was absolute garbage. 5/40 - TWO more dupes of Lion's USB, a dupe Minfilia BSB, Aranea OSB, and Rufus LMR.

Gift draw was much better:
- Papalymo AOSB
- Minfilia Glint
- Y'shtola Glint
- Yuna Glint
- Bartz LMR2
- Laguna LMR
- Lann BSB
- Vincent BSB
(No dupes!)
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Lopen
03/25/19 4:23:09 AM
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I got some ok stuff. Nothing I super wanted but some okay stuff.

7/40

Onion mUSB
Quistis USB1 (I think? Triboost + Haste + 2000 Stock)
Ace USB2 (now have both of his USBs wonder if they play well together)
Hope OSB (dupe)
Seven BSB (ice boost armor cool)
Basch LMR (holy boost bracer cool)
Alphinaud LMR

And

Ursula Arcane
Tellah LMR
Curilla LMR (dupe)
Desch BSB
Morrow BSB
Nine BSB
Ovelia BSB
Kelger BSB

Main disappointment is I was SURE that Quistis Ultra was Rydia USB2 cause I'm pretty sure their look is similar. Oh well Quistis USB may be useful too for Torment or somethin.
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Ultimaphazon
03/25/19 4:46:37 AM
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8-draw
Cid (IV) LMR
Shelke LMR
Elena BSB
Rinoa Glint
Ramza LMR2
Gladio LMR2(? enearth)
Braska LMR
Tifa AOSB

40-draw
Yang LMR
Alphi Glint
Tifa Glint
Cid (VII) BSB
Mog USB2
Desch USB

Not a single dupe, so that's nice. Tifa AOSB was pretty high on my wishlist, and the 3 Glints are on characters that are already stacked, so might see some occasional use.
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