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rikasa
03/15/19 6:15:50 AM
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I'm waiting for the viddie dude
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Error1355
03/15/19 7:11:47 AM
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This guy just liked using memes. He has the whole 'navy seal' rant in his manifesto, he also blamed spyro 3 and Fortnite for teaching him nationalism. This shooter is just a fucking try hard asshole.
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Superlinkbro
03/15/19 7:13:25 AM
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Error1355 posted...
he also blamed spyro 3 and Fortnite for teaching him nationalism

Wtf?
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Error1355
03/15/19 7:15:22 AM
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Superlinkbro posted...
Error1355 posted...
he also blamed spyro 3 and Fortnite for teaching him nationalism

Wtf?

Yeah, this guy is just a nut job idiot who wanted to ruffle as many feathers as possible. He said he wanted to dab on his haters too in the pdf. Him mentioning pdp seems 100% focused on using the meme and not because pdp inspired him to do a shooting.
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Bat178
03/15/19 7:18:46 AM
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Error1355 posted...
Superlinkbro posted...
Error1355 posted...
he also blamed spyro 3 and Fortnite for teaching him nationalism

Wtf?

Yeah, this guy is just a nut job idiot who wanted to ruffle as many feathers as possible. He said he wanted to dab on his haters too in the pdf. Him mentioning pdp seems 100% focused on using the meme and not because pdp inspired him to do a shooting.

The Spyro 3 thing is legitimately infuriating and insulting to me, as I played that game a lot at my grandparents' house when I was a kid before they died and it has a lot of sentimental value to me.
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DragonEnergyWok
03/15/19 7:33:57 AM
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What happened?
Error1355
03/15/19 7:34:58 AM
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DragonEnergyWok posted...
What happened?

A shooter said 'subscribe to pewdiepie' before starting a mass shooting that he live streamed.
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DragonEnergyWok
03/15/19 7:42:29 AM
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Just now reading it on Reddit, fuck thats a lot of death, what a POS that shooter is.
Rimmer_Dall
03/15/19 7:45:32 AM
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Error1355 posted...
DragonEnergyWok posted...
What happened?

A shooter said 'subscribe to pewdiepie' before starting a mass shooting that he live streamed.

He also played "Remove Kebab/Serbia Strong" and "Gas Gas Gas" in said livestream.
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Sativa_Rose
03/15/19 7:56:26 AM
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Bat178 posted...
Error1355 posted...
Superlinkbro posted...
Error1355 posted...
he also blamed spyro 3 and Fortnite for teaching him nationalism

Wtf?

Yeah, this guy is just a nut job idiot who wanted to ruffle as many feathers as possible. He said he wanted to dab on his haters too in the pdf. Him mentioning pdp seems 100% focused on using the meme and not because pdp inspired him to do a shooting.

The Spyro 3 thing is legitimately infuriating and insulting to me, as I played that game a lot at my grandparents' house when I was a kid before they died and it has a lot of sentimental value to me.


I think Spyro will mostly be spared any condemnation because most journalists probably haven't heard of it, as it's a pretty old game/series.
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Bat178
03/15/19 8:05:36 AM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
Bat178 posted...
Error1355 posted...
Superlinkbro posted...
Error1355 posted...
he also blamed spyro 3 and Fortnite for teaching him nationalism

Wtf?

Yeah, this guy is just a nut job idiot who wanted to ruffle as many feathers as possible. He said he wanted to dab on his haters too in the pdf. Him mentioning pdp seems 100% focused on using the meme and not because pdp inspired him to do a shooting.

The Spyro 3 thing is legitimately infuriating and insulting to me, as I played that game a lot at my grandparents' house when I was a kid before they died and it has a lot of sentimental value to me.


I think Spyro will mostly be spared any condemnation because most journalists probably haven't heard of it, as it's a pretty old game/series.

The Reignited Trilogy did recently come out, though.
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Lorenzo_2003
03/15/19 8:13:28 AM
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Darmik posted...
I don't blame PDP at all.

But I think he and YouTubers like him need to realize that edgy, racist humor is going to attract people who like that sort of rhetoric. Doesn't matter if you're being ironic about it.


Claims to not blame Pew Die Pie.

Goes on to blame Pew Die Pie.

You know you could have stopped at your first sentence, right?
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Malfunction
03/15/19 8:14:10 AM
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How is that blaming him for the shooting
myzz7
03/15/19 8:16:06 AM
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Rimmer_Dall posted...
Error1355 posted...
DragonEnergyWok posted...
What happened?

A shooter said 'subscribe to pewdiepie' before starting a mass shooting that he live streamed.

He also played "Remove Kebab/Serbia Strong" and "Gas Gas Gas" in said livestream.

rip EU4 fandom; going down b/c it radicalizes and encourages shootings.
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Lorenzo_2003
03/15/19 8:40:55 AM
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Malfunction posted...
How is that blaming him for the shooting


I don't blame Malfunction at all.

But I think Malfunction needs to realize that what he posts on CE could be seen as edgy, racist humor that is going to attract people who like that sort of rhetoric. Doesn't matter if Malfunction just likes to play video games and talk about current events with other members. Somebody, somewhere, might read what Malfunction wrote and be inspired to commit a horrific crime. Malfunction keeps posting, so Malfunction is certainly not unwilling to be that potential cause of tragedy.

Btw, this is totally not blaming Malfunction for any connection to tragedies that have happened, are happening, or will maybe happen.
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Malfunction
03/15/19 8:42:48 AM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
edgy, racist humor that is going to attract people who like that sort of rhetoric

Lorenzo_2003 posted...
Somebody, somewhere, might read what Malfunction wrote and be inspired to commit a horrific crime.

again it is only you guys making this leap of logic
DoomsSD
03/15/19 8:46:13 AM
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The more I read about this, the more fucked up it gets.

Can't even put words to it. Pure insanity and malice.
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Malfunction
03/15/19 9:58:27 AM
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https://twitter.com/UKIP/status/1105227602560720897

Amazing how so many far right shitlords love this meme
Tyranthraxus
03/15/19 10:07:18 AM
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Malfunction posted...
https://twitter.com/UKIP/status/1105227602560720897

Amazing how so many far right shitlords love this meme


Wasn't there some mayor or governor's Twitter that was hacked recently and the hacker posted that meme along with child porn?
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CM_Ponch
03/15/19 10:41:49 AM
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Malfunction posted...
Lorenzo_2003 posted...
edgy, racist humor that is going to attract people who like that sort of rhetoric

Lorenzo_2003 posted...
Somebody, somewhere, might read what Malfunction wrote and be inspired to commit a horrific crime.

again it is only you guys making this leap of logic

Sure dude, sure
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darkphoenix181
03/15/19 11:01:30 AM
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Error1355 posted...
This guy just liked using memes. He has the whole 'navy seal' rant in his manifesto, he also blamed spyro 3 and Fortnite for teaching him nationalism. This shooter is just a fucking try hard asshole.


Spyro 3 and Fortnite have a culture of radicalization. I am not blaming them but just saying they need to own up on their part.
I am not sayin they had any part...but they got named dropped.
I mean, they love courted the alt right fan base. Wr know alt righters love playing fortnite.
These shooters play fortnite and there must be something there!
Not blaming them though!

That was sarcasm btw.
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flutershy666
03/15/19 11:54:42 AM
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Axiom posted...
Pewdiepie does racist shit. Racist mass shooter gives him a shout out before killing people. Hmmmmmmmmmmm
darkphoenix181
03/15/19 12:09:51 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/community/Malfunction

Suspended

Looks like it for making that other thread about pewdiepie.
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Chewster
03/15/19 12:23:24 PM
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I see a lot of "whataboutism" and trying to make this seem like it's no better than talking about violent video games, movies, etc., but the difference is that those things aren't a major torch-bearer for "culture wars". And maybe PDP isn't trying to be a torch-bearer, but he has made weak and insincere attempts in the past to disavow it. I know he disavowed the shooting, but he did about the bare minimum of saying "murder is bad". I'd really like to see him reflect on why the name-drop might have happened and think about the kind of harm his "edgy jokes" can do--maybe not immediately, it's fair to give it time.

But sadly I don't think it'll happen, judging by the reaction I've seen so far. The whole YT community is a bunch of PDP sycophants who are incapable of seeing the bigger picture and instead think it's always some big "old media vs. new media" conspiracy. Even if he didn't have a bunch of pals telling him it's NBD, I doubt he'd come to any serious revelations.
Jeff AKA Snoopy
03/15/19 12:44:14 PM
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You are asking him to partially take responsibility for the actions of domestic terrorists because they name dropped him. You basically villainize all of his fanbase and blame him for creating some imaginary air of murder and hatred?

That is repugnant, disgusting, and really insulting to those who have been affected. The ones responsible are racist monsters who are simply trying to pass the buck, and people like you are allowing him to.
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CM_Ponch
03/15/19 12:46:56 PM
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Chewster posted...
I'd really like to see him reflect on why the name-drop might have happened and think about the kind of harm his "edgy jokes" can do--maybe not immediately, it's fair to give it time.

Should Initial D, and Fortnite issue an apology too

Chewster posted...
The whole YT community is a bunch of PDP sycophants who are incapable of seeing the bigger picture and instead think it's always some big "old media vs. new media" conspiracy.

You are literally doing the same thing by attacking Pewdiepie instead of realizing the shooter was using "sub to pewdiepie" to create tension between people.
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Foppe
03/15/19 12:51:09 PM
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The shooter made multiple references, pewdiepie is just one of many, just to make more people talk about it.
Blaming pewdiepie only means that the shooter wins.
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HBOSS
03/15/19 12:53:17 PM
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Foppe posted...
The shooter made multiple references, pewdiepie is just one of many, just to make more people talk about it.
Blaming pewdiepie only means that the shooter wins.

the attention the shooter brings deflects attention and that goes to the named individuals and groups. its like the focus goes to others than to the actual shooters. this brings responses that challenges the security vs safety debate.

the investigation still goes to the shooters but their peers are looking elsewhere for answers. in a way, the shooters share their burden with those others that were named. i feel in their mind, the shooters are also taking the other people down with them in this event that forever bonds them together. the blame is shifted from the person who did the action to the people who they act in the name of. thats the dangerous part, it can incite backlash towards more people. the ramifications are unpredictable and are gonna be used to further the chaos started by these shooters.
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darkphoenix181
03/15/19 12:55:38 PM
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Chewster posted...
I see a lot of "whataboutism" and trying to make this seem like it's no better than talking about violent video games, movies, etc., but the difference is that those things aren't a major torch-bearer for "culture wars".


Oh is that why FF7 was cited as radicalizing the columbine shooters?

https://www.polygon.com/2018/3/10/17101232/a-brief-history-of-video-game-violence-blame

In the past few decades, video games have moved to the center of cultural life. And yet, they still carry the stigma of disapproval, of being an external force thats at least partly responsible for modern ills, including real world violence perpetrated by deeply disturbed young men.

Columbine: On April 20, 1999, high school seniors Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold murdered 12 students and a teacher. They both enjoyed playing games like Doom and Quake, which were popular at the time. Both the killers had wide-ranging cultural interests, including dark music, computers and drama. They were bullied, often in trouble. Both kept journals, either written or video-based, in which they detailed their plans. They were both intensely interested in bombs and firearms.

Heath High School: On Dec. 1, 1997, 14-year-old Michael Carneal shot to death three students. He had been a target of bullies and suffered from a variety of diagnosed mental illnesses. He enjoyed video games. The parents of the victims subsequently sued multiple organizations they saw as carrying blame for Carneals actions, including game companies. The lawsuit was not successful.

Sandy Hook: On Dec. 14, 2012, 20-year-old Adam Lanza killed 20 children and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. He was a loner with known mental health issues and a fascination of mass shootings. He spent a lot of time in his basement, playing a wide variety of games. His favorite game was said to be Dance Dance Revolution.

Parkland: Nikolas Cruz spent long hours playing violent video games, according to a friend. He was an unpopular kid who suffered from depression.

Their motives are generally tied to the beliefs, vices, professional failures, mental illnesses or broken relationships of the individual shooters, not to their entertainment choices.


When teenage brothers William and Joshua Buckner pleaded guilty for the shooting and murder of a random motorist on a highway in the Smoky Mountains, they claimed to have been inspired by Grand Theft Auto 3. A lawsuit ensued, which was quickly dismissed.

Likewise, a murderous Oakland gang, the Nut Cases, spent hours getting high and playing GTA 3, before they ranged out on crime sprees, according to a 2003 report in the San Francisco Chronicle.


To call this whataboutism is quite the ignorant statement.

It is parallel of the highest degree.

Pdp is an entertainment choice. Video games are an entertainment choice.

Blaming someone's entertainment choice for a massacre is literally what you are doing.
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legendary_zell
03/15/19 12:57:00 PM
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All you guys need to do is look up the Daily Stormer's comments on PDP. That's what we're criticizing. That he's presented himself in a way that signals support to these people. Lot's of people see it, both those that hate and love him. The ones that don't are his vehement defenders. For the trillionth time, no one is saying he caused a shooting or that he should take responsibility for the shooting that he did not cause.

I'm saying he's part of a toxic, enabling internet culture that blurs the lines between real and fake racism for laughs. And that's why he was one of the references made here.

Recognizing that is recognizing reality, not creating division. Any division comes from not recognizing that and perpetuating the type of online interactions that he had participated in or defending him to the death.
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darkphoenix181
03/15/19 1:03:01 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
All you guys need to do is look up the Daily Stormer's comments on PDP. That's what we're criticizing. That he's presented himself in a way that signals support to these people.


Can you give an example?

The dude literally mainly posts reacting to ylyl videos. He doesn't go on tirades of "oh woe is us, too much immigration!"
His content is mainly "lmao this maybe I am tracer song is teh funny!"

legendary_zell posted...
For the trillionth time, no one is saying he caused a shooting or that he should take responsibility for the shooting that he did not cause.

I'm saying he's part of a toxic, enabling internet culture that blurs the lines between real and fake racism for laughs. And that's why he was one of the references made here.


He didn't cause it but

But.
But he created a toxic enabling culture that did what in reference to this massacre?
Hmm?
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Chewster
03/15/19 1:07:27 PM
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CM_Ponch posted...
Should Initial D, and Fortnite issue an apology too


I literally answered this is the exact post you're quoting. Initial D and Fortnite don't willfully engage in the types of behaviors that enable culture warrior-types

darkphoenix181 posted...
Oh is that why FF7 was cited as radicalizing the columbine shooters?


Same thing... I don't get this response. You're literally using the same kind of example that I just discredited in the post you're quoting

darkphoenix181 posted...
The dude literally mainly posts reacting to ylyl videos. He doesn't go on tirades of "oh woe is us, too much immigration!"
His content is mainly "lmao this maybe I am tracer song is teh funny!"


Cool so if this is what his videos are about then why do edgy Nazi jokes have ANY place in them? Sounds like it wouldn't be hard at all for him to stop doing them
Banjo2553
03/15/19 1:08:10 PM
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I guess Game Grumps is racist because Dan makes jew jokes a lot.

Just putting that out there.
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Rimmer_Dall
03/15/19 1:13:20 PM
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Potential revenge shooting incoming.

http://archive.is/a2CLQ
http://archive.is/jPthe
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darkphoenix181
03/15/19 1:13:33 PM
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Chewster posted...
Same thing... I don't get this response. You're literally using the same kind of example that I just discredited in the post you're quoting


You didn't discredit anything. You seem to enjoy attacking strawmen then handwaving away critique of your arguments.

Chewster posted...
Cool so if this is what his videos are about then why do edgy Nazi jokes have ANY place in them? Sounds like it wouldn't be hard at all for him to stop doing them


And you just showed your bias and ignorance.

He hasn't done a nazi joke for 2 years as he was distraught over Charlottesville.
He made a video about it denouncing these kind of people and distancing himself. He said he wouldn't do nazi jokes anymore as that made him realize nazis stille exist today.

It is like all you know about him is what you read from the WSJ smear campaign from 2 years ago.
You know, when they claimed a BRITISH uniform was a nazi outfit.

Not surprising though.
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Banjo2553
03/15/19 1:16:19 PM
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Rimmer_Dall posted...
Potential revenge shooting incoming.

http://archive.is/a2CLQ
http://archive.is/jPthe

Oh Jesus Christ help us.
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Chewster
03/15/19 1:21:16 PM
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Banjo2553 posted...
I guess Game Grumps is racist because Dan makes jew jokes a lot.

Just putting that out there.


If anything, I tend to see people complain that GG are "SJWs" who have gotten "too PC", so this just sounds like another dumb false equivalency. The difference is that they make an effort not to court right-wing people, like their gay dating sim game doesn't scream right-wing to me.

darkphoenix181 posted...
He hasn't done a nazi joke for 2 years as he was distraught over Charlottesville.
He made a video about it denouncing these kind of people and distancing himself. He said he wouldn't do nazi jokes anymore as that made him realize nazis stille exist today.


Okay whatever, I think you know what I meant. It's not literally just Nazi jokes, but other racist jokes, recommending anti-Semite channels (that was far less "accidental" than let on), following far-right personalities on twitter, etc.
CookieMarvin
03/15/19 1:22:03 PM
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Banjo2553 posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...
Potential revenge shooting incoming.

Oh Jesus Christ help us.

youre really just gonna take that at face value and not like, idk, think about the person posting it having subscribe to pewdiepie as their sig or it clearly being within reach of racist meme accounts that sound a helluva lot like the person who did this?

like, Im not even saying its entirely illegitimate, but youre so scared that youre not even going to consider asking questions?
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legendary_zell
03/15/19 1:23:01 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
legendary_zell posted...
All you guys need to do is look up the Daily Stormer's comments on PDP. That's what we're criticizing. That he's presented himself in a way that signals support to these people.


Can you give an example?

The dude literally mainly posts reacting to ylyl videos. He doesn't go on tirades of "oh woe is us, too much immigration!"
His content is mainly "lmao this maybe I am tracer song is teh funny!"

legendary_zell posted...
For the trillionth time, no one is saying he caused a shooting or that he should take responsibility for the shooting that he did not cause.

I'm saying he's part of a toxic, enabling internet culture that blurs the lines between real and fake racism for laughs. And that's why he was one of the references made here.


He didn't cause it but

But.
But he created a toxic enabling culture that did what in reference to this massacre?
Hmm?


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/15/youtube-pewdiepie-thinks-death-to-all-jews-joke-laughing-yet

In that article, the Daily Stormer confirms exactly what I said about the effect of his words. He helped created a toxic enabling culture that helps normalize hate speech through ironic racism. Saying that attitude and PDP being mentioned by name along with other racist memes is a coincide....that strains credibility to me.
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darkphoenix181
03/15/19 1:26:42 PM
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Chewster posted...
Okay whatever, I think you know what I meant. It's not literally just Nazi jokes, but other racist jokes, recommending anti-Semite channels (that was far less "accidental" than let one), following far-right personalities on twitter, etc.


No. No I do not.

What other racist jokes?

You seem to believe he does racist jokes but not actually know what kind of content he actually does.

As far as recommending anti- semite channel, that was one of like 30 channels he recommended. He apologized and removed it from the video.
But you hang it over him forever.

It is almost as if you were disingenous about how he could denounce these things.

You don't care and just want him ruined.
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CookieMarvin
03/15/19 1:28:36 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
Chewster posted...
Okay whatever, I think you know what I meant. It's not literally just Nazi jokes, but other racist jokes, recommending anti-Semite channels (that was far less "accidental" than let one), following far-right personalities on twitter, etc.


No. No I do not.

What other racist jokes?

You seem to believe he does racist jokes but not actually know what kind of content he actually does.

As far as recommending anti- semite channel, that was one of like 30 channels he recommended. He apologized and removed it from the video.
But you hang it over him forever.

It is almost as if you were disingenous about how he could denounce these things.

You don't care and just want him ruined.

how does apologizing change in the slightest the fact that he recd an antisemitic channel? thats not something you can just take back. he put his name on that one.
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AngelsNAirwav3s
03/15/19 1:28:58 PM
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You can tell in his "manifesto" he clearly wrote everything to just point false flags and create the biggest shit storm he possibly could. He tried to say as many buzzwords as he could for the media to jump on it and create a divide.
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darkphoenix181
03/15/19 1:29:48 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/15/youtube-pewdiepie-thinks-death-to-all-jews-joke-laughing-yet

In that article, the Daily Stormer confirms exactly what I said about the effect of his words. He helped created a toxic enabling culture that helps normalize hate speech through ironic racism. Saying that attitude and PDP being mentioned by name along with other racist memes is a coincide....that strains credibility to me.


So all you have is the thing we already discussed which happened 2 years ago?

You guys keep claiming he makes racist videos and enables this culture...

But all you have to go on is something he did 2 years ago, apologized for over and over and even denounced saying it was a thing he was ignorant on and would not do again.

So why do you call for him to "distance" from these people when it is clear that doing so would not be acknowledged by you and you will continue to hold this stuff against him.

How about you actually go and fucking watch his video from yesterday.

Tell me what in it radicalizes people.
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Foppe
03/15/19 1:33:40 PM
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One Youtuber transformed a perfect hate-free society into a toxic enabling culture?
That is pretty impressive.
...wait, does that mean that Trump watch his videos as well?
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Chewster
03/15/19 1:36:15 PM
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Even when he apologizes for things, his fans act like it's just a bad coincidence, even as it happens over and over again, and make it about what's wrong with "the media" instead of thinking maybe there is a root issue with PDP that causes these things to happen repeatedly. Do you not see what's wrong with that? It's deflecting blame, and PDP allows people to get away with it because it benefits him.

AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
You can tell in his "manifesto" he clearly wrote everything to just point false flags and create the biggest shit storm he possibly could. He tried to say as many buzzwords as he could for the media to jump on it and create a divide.


More deflecting blame, anything to just say "he's trolling", "it's just part of the meme culture", etc., so that you don't have to acknowledge this brand of trolling and meme culture is directly related to right-wing internet ideology. It's not a coincidence that he happened to be right-wing, this kind of stuff is right-wing on the internet. Making it look like an "innocent" meme is part of how they attract people, and that's been discussed numerous times, but people like you refuse to believe it because having any sort of tangential attachment to extremism is a bad look for you.
darkphoenix181
03/15/19 1:36:25 PM
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CookieMarvin posted...
how does apologizing change in the slightest the fact that he recd an antisemitic channel? thats not something you can just take back. he put his name on that one.


You think there is no nuance that can allow him to take that back?
You are serious?

And how does it change anything? Watch his apology and find out.
Or was that not a legitimate question and you won't actually watch it and pretend to know the whole story and conclude what your bias says?
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Banjo2553
03/15/19 1:36:39 PM
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CookieMarvin posted...
Banjo2553 posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...
Potential revenge shooting incoming.

Oh Jesus Christ help us.

youre really just gonna take that at face value and not like, idk, think about the person posting it having subscribe to pewdiepie as their sig or it clearly being within reach of racist meme accounts that sound a helluva lot like the person who did this?

like, Im not even saying its entirely illegitimate, but youre so scared that youre not even going to consider asking questions?

I'm not even saying Rimmer Dall is the one making the claim. It's an archive site, right? Which means it was taken from a legitimate url. Even if this "muslim" guy posted making threats, that's not something you do without getting investigated.
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Rimmer_Dall
03/15/19 1:39:21 PM
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Banjo2553 posted...
I'm not even saying Rimmer Dall is the one making the claim. It's an archive site, right? Which means it was taken from a legitimate url. Even if this "muslim" guy posted making threats, that's not something you do without getting investigated.

What, you want the live tweets? They're still up. Have a gander. I posted archives because I'm expecting the account to be suspended.

https://twitter.com/sofian259/status/1106576089625882624?s=21
https://twitter.com/sofian259/status/1106576531902615553

And here is his twitter feed.

https://twitter.com/sofian259
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darkphoenix181
03/15/19 1:39:40 PM
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Chewster posted...
Even when he apologizes for things, his fans act like it's just a bad coincidence, even as it happens over and over again, and make it about what's wrong with "the media" instead of thinking maybe there is a root issue with PDP that causes these things to happen repeatedly. Do you not see what's wrong with that? It's deflecting blame, and PDP allows people to get away with it because it benefits him.


Chewster posted...
Cool so if this is what his videos are about then why do edgy Nazi jokes have ANY place in them? Sounds like it wouldn't be hard at all for him to stop doing them


So you didn't actually care about whether he stops and distances himself.

Wow
I am shocked
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Chewster
03/15/19 1:46:11 PM
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Yeah I don't really care that he stops when it keeps happening again. How many strikes does this dude get before it stops being a bunch of unfortunate coincidences and actually gets viewed as a reflection of his beliefs?

And he doesn't distance himself, he gives the bare minimum token apology, then enjoys the attention that roles in as a bunch of ass-kissers try to make him out to be the victim.
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