Poll of the Day > Thoughts on collecting vinyl records?

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iLikeQ
03/14/19 10:59:55 AM
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select the choice you resonate with the most - Results (1 vote)
Awesome. Vintage stuff is cool and would definitely consider or already have an expansive collection
100% (1 vote)
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Alright. I might possibly buy one or two just for my favorite artists
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Meh. Don't really care for them
0% (0 votes)
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Useless. Why waste $$ when we have free music from various sources in today's age?
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Other (explain)
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HeyImAlex
03/14/19 11:00:53 AM
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Wax is cool, man.
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GanglyKhan
03/14/19 11:45:56 AM
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I have around 60 albums, some older, used prints, some are new.
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hypnox
03/14/19 11:49:46 AM
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Firewood18
03/14/19 11:55:16 AM
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I have a bunch of jazz records from the 50's and 60's that were my fathers that are rare and sound awesome. I also have alot of 70's records from colleagues that just didn't want them anymore.
My wife and I are building up a nice contemporary collection now. We'll buy an album every couple of months that we consider to be great start to finish.
The last one I bought was A Perfect Circle's -Eat the Elephant. Fucking awesome.
It's a nice ritualistic thing to play a few records while making dinner a few nights a week.
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OhhhJa
03/14/19 11:58:34 AM
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I have about 50 in my collection but honestly I should buy them more often. The blown up artwork is awesome, sound quality is the best, and it's good to actually buy music instead of just streaming it

A buddy of mine has like 500 albums in his collection
Firewood18
03/14/19 12:03:19 PM
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Also, most new releases come with a card inside the album that allow free downloads of all the music digitally.
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argonautweakend
03/14/19 12:08:30 PM
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ive got a ton of LPs.

I like them.
ParanoidObsessive
03/14/19 12:23:54 PM
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When I grew up there was no choice but to listen to vinyl, and it was annoying as fuck. I rejoiced when CDs became a thing, and I embraced them and never looked back. I don't feel like you get more fidelity out of vinyl, as much as the love of it is more a combination of nostalgia and hipsterism.

That being said, I don't really give a shit what other people listen to, because that's their issue, not mine.

But if anything, the problem with modern music is less one of medium and more of mixing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war


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OhhhJa
03/14/19 12:36:36 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
I rejoiced when CDs became a thing, and I embraced them and never looked back. I don't feel like you get more fidelity out of vinyl, as much as the love of it is more a combination of nostalgia and hipsterism.

The sound on vinyl records is factually higher quality than any digital recording. Digital recordings dont capture the full sound wave
PKMNsony
03/14/19 12:45:44 PM
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If I was rich Id collect them.
argonautweakend
03/14/19 12:57:35 PM
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the way i look at it is, i like to buy music already, so why not buy it in the best format possible to collect. as in the package is way cooler than a CD.

thats my two cents. if want to throw money at an artist ill get vinyl. most of the time it comes with a download card so thats even better.
Pus_N_Pecans
03/14/19 1:36:58 PM
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I have like 20 or so. I really only buy them for albums that I really enjoy because they are so expensive, but I dont listen to my records often enough.
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argonautweakend
03/14/19 1:41:01 PM
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ive got well over 100 or 150 12in records and probably another 50-100 45s.
MrMelodramatic
03/14/19 1:49:05 PM
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I have a collection of about 120 records. Its dope.
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captpackrat
03/14/19 1:52:45 PM
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I have a few albums, but it's most extremely obscure stuff that just isn't available on anything else. Like Charlie the Hamster (a 1973 rip-off of the Chipmunks that got sued out of existence by 1977)
VeeVees
03/14/19 1:54:29 PM
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useless trinkets
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Dikitain
03/14/19 2:05:20 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
But if anything, the problem with modern music is less one of medium and more of mixing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war


That, the loudness war has killed a ton of what would be great albums and made them sound like nothing but distorted static.

Anyways, I have a few vinyl albums, but I usually just get them for the artwork. Plus I don't want to spend a ton of money on them so I am usually super selective. Like I saw Somewhere in Time on vinyl a few months ago which is one of my favorite Iron Maiden albums, but there was no way in hell I was paying $80 for it.
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argonautweakend
03/14/19 2:07:38 PM
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I have zero idea why that would cost 80 dollars.
OhhhJa
03/14/19 2:11:46 PM
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PKMNsony posted...
If I was rich Id collect them.

They pretty much keep their worth though and many get more expensive with age
Dikitain
03/14/19 2:15:20 PM
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argonautweakend posted...
I have zero idea why that would cost 80 dollars.

I don't either, especially since I bought Paranoid by Black Sabbath for $12 from the exact same store.
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kangolcone
03/14/19 2:19:07 PM
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I dont because it can be an expensive hobby and records are pain in the but to store and move.

But Im not against people who do it.
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OhhhJa
03/14/19 2:23:13 PM
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Dikitain posted...
argonautweakend posted...
I have zero idea why that would cost 80 dollars.

I don't either, especially since I bought Paranoid by Black Sabbath for $12 from the exact same store.

Usually it has to do with rarity but I doubt that one is rare
Archgoat
03/14/19 2:29:51 PM
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I collect vinyl of bands I like. I mostly listen to music on Spotify, but I like to support the bands I like and also enjoy putting on a record so I usually try to buy the vinyl of new releases. It can be an expensive hobby though.
ernieforss
03/14/19 2:32:08 PM
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seems like a waste and a hipster thing to collect.

It just seems like a way cheaper expense than buying old cars.
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OhhhJa
03/14/19 2:44:43 PM
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ernieforss posted...
seems like a waste and a hipster thing to collect.

It just seems like a way cheaper expense than buying old cars.

The fact that this kind of opinion is commonplace is sad to me. Musicians and the music industry in general are getting the shaft but people dont care as long as they get entertainment for virtually nothing
Dikitain
03/14/19 2:52:37 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
ernieforss posted...
seems like a waste and a hipster thing to collect.

It just seems like a way cheaper expense than buying old cars.

The fact that this kind of opinion is commonplace is sad to me. Musicians and the music industry in general are getting the shaft but people dont care as long as they get entertainment for virtually nothing

Musicians aren't really getting the shaft because it is dirt cheap to release music independently nowadays. If anything they are getting a way better deal then they used to because now the record companies aren't forcing them into insanely long contracts that don't even give them more money if they become popular. That is why if you support a musician you should go to their concerts and buy their merch. That money goes directly to them, buying their albums is just putting money in the pockets of the record executives.

The industry is getting the shaft and I welcome that fully. Fuck the record companies, I hope they all end up burning in the fiery pits of hell so the artists themselves can actually make a dime.
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argonautweakend
03/14/19 3:11:00 PM
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It is dirt cheap to release music nowadays but I feel like that doesn't net you much exposure as if you were on a record label. I'm more inclined to check out a band if its on a label with a roster of bands I like already, than somebody new. But thats just me, and I don't mean major record labels because I don't care. There are a lot of smaller record labels I dont mind supporting because they have put out a lot of good music by a lot of good bands. I don't know what the economics are like for smaller labels but even if the label got 90% of the profit from an album sale, i don't quite mind as buying music means more than just profit. More sales = more label faith in a band = potentially more releases. and while i dont care much about the billboard charts, it is cool to see a band I like charting as that means more visibility, which means more people listening to music i like which isnt a bad thing.
OhhhJa
03/14/19 3:24:49 PM
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Dikitain posted...
OhhhJa posted...
ernieforss posted...
seems like a waste and a hipster thing to collect.

It just seems like a way cheaper expense than buying old cars.

The fact that this kind of opinion is commonplace is sad to me. Musicians and the music industry in general are getting the shaft but people dont care as long as they get entertainment for virtually nothing

Musicians aren't really getting the shaft because it is dirt cheap to release music independently nowadays. If anything they are getting a way better deal then they used to because now the record companies aren't forcing them into insanely long contracts that don't even give them more money if they become popular. That is why if you support a musician you should go to their concerts and buy their merch. That money goes directly to them, buying their albums is just putting money in the pockets of the record executives.

The industry is getting the shaft and I welcome that fully. Fuck the record companies, I hope they all end up burning in the fiery pits of hell so the artists themselves can actually make a dime.

I actually have first hand experience with this. While it is cheaper overall, most bands still spend thousands on the recording unless they're recording in a basement. My band is actually signed to a fairly major label and while the label gets most money from album sales bands still typically retain about 20%. That's waaaaay better than what you get from streaming services like spotify. So really what hurts the industry also hurts the band as well
Dikitain
03/14/19 3:28:53 PM
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argonautweakend posted...
It is dirt cheap to release music nowadays but I feel like that doesn't net you much exposure as if you were on a record label. I'm more inclined to check out a band if its on a label with a roster of bands I like already, than somebody new. But thats just me, and I don't mean major record labels because I don't care. There are a lot of smaller record labels I dont mind supporting because they have put out a lot of good music by a lot of good bands. I don't know what the economics are like for smaller labels but even if the label got 90% of the profit from an album sale, i don't quite mind as buying music means more than just profit. More sales = more label faith in a band = potentially more releases. and while i dont care much about the billboard charts, it is cool to see a band I like charting as that means more visibility, which means more people listening to music i like which isnt a bad thing.


I think that is very much a unique to you case. I can name a dozen or so bands I like that came from Epitaph Records, but I never once looked at what other bands were signed to them to figure out what I liked. Most of my music taste in the 90's came from word of mouth, listening to the radio, watching videos on MTV, or watching the opening act at a concert for another band I liked. All of those are still viable today, with Social Media, Streaming services, and Vevo being the modern equivalents of the first three things respectively. The only difference is you don't need the record companies anymore to promote yourself these ways.

OhhhJa posted...
Dikitain posted...
OhhhJa posted...
ernieforss posted...
seems like a waste and a hipster thing to collect.

It just seems like a way cheaper expense than buying old cars.

The fact that this kind of opinion is commonplace is sad to me. Musicians and the music industry in general are getting the shaft but people dont care as long as they get entertainment for virtually nothing

Musicians aren't really getting the shaft because it is dirt cheap to release music independently nowadays. If anything they are getting a way better deal then they used to because now the record companies aren't forcing them into insanely long contracts that don't even give them more money if they become popular. That is why if you support a musician you should go to their concerts and buy their merch. That money goes directly to them, buying their albums is just putting money in the pockets of the record executives.

The industry is getting the shaft and I welcome that fully. Fuck the record companies, I hope they all end up burning in the fiery pits of hell so the artists themselves can actually make a dime.

I actually have first hand experience with this. While it is cheaper overall, most bands still spend thousands on the recording unless they're recording in a basement. My band is actually signed to a fairly major label and while the label gets most money from album sales bands still typically retain about 20%. That's waaaaay better than what you get from streaming services like spotify. So really what hurts the industry also hurts the band as well

I have a co-worker who has experience with this as well, and even he has said streaming nets way more opportunities for smaller bands then a major record deal. Plus the purpose is to get your name out there. Your money comes from getting booked for concerts, and that only happens if someone can hear you on a streaming service.

Plus Spotify is notoriously cheap, Play Music and iTunes tend to give you a better deal.
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OhhhJa
03/14/19 3:30:57 PM
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Also, labels still help a LOT with promotion. Self promoting is stupidly expensive. Without labels, we'd just have a sea of relatively unknown independent musicians. That's fine and all but you'll see a decline in quality music when it's not worth it financially for musicians
ParanoidObsessive
03/14/19 3:40:16 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
The sound on vinyl records is factually higher quality than any digital recording. Digital recordings dont capture the full sound wave

ParanoidObsessive posted...
If anything, the problem with modern music is less one of medium and more of mixing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war

It has nothing to do with the medium, it has to do with how music is processed.


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HeyImAlex
03/14/19 8:45:34 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
OhhhJa posted...
The sound on vinyl records is factually higher quality than any digital recording. Digital recordings dont capture the full sound wave

ParanoidObsessive posted...
If anything, the problem with modern music is less one of medium and more of mixing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war

It has nothing to do with the medium, it has to do with how music is processed.


And maybe even more precisely it has to do with how music is recorded. If music is recorded onto a digital medium, i.e. not tape, it doesn't really matter if you press that recorded wave into wax. The end result coming out of the speaker is a digital reproduction of the original (which was digital to begin with). If the original sound waves were recorded onto tape (and assuming they were actual sound waves being recorded by microphones) then pressing that onto wax will be a more accurate representation of the "real sound".

Another point to make is so much of music today is created digitally anyway. Making vinyl of a digitally made album is pure aesthetic.

But long story short, yes, it has to do with the way it's processed.
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WarGreymon77
03/14/19 11:50:21 PM
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CD's are better.
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DrCidd
03/15/19 12:13:16 AM
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I don't personally collect records, but I don't really care what anyone else collects, so it doesn't affect me.

Having said that. I have a 40gb+ music collection on my computer. I'm not really into preserving the medium because so many others are already taking care of that. I really only care about the music.
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wwinterj25
03/15/19 12:30:53 AM
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Meh. If folk like to do that then great but personally I don't care for it.
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KJ StErOiDs
03/15/19 9:15:22 AM
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Personally I have no interest in such a thing. I'm neither enough of an audiophile nor a collector.

As for others collecting records: so be it.
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Beveren_Rabbit
03/15/19 9:26:58 AM
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WarGreymon77 posted...
CD's are better.


CD's are more convenient , but at the expense of 320kbps mp3 quality. Vinyl has more fidelity
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Miroku_of_Nite1
03/15/19 9:54:19 AM
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I got so many albums... But the most expensive one I got is probably the Red Dead Redemption soundtrack in vinyl unopened.
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redline65
03/15/19 9:57:39 AM
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I don't have a record player in my car. And I can't play records on my bike or when I'm mowing the grass. So I'm gonna say.. I have no use for them.
Beveren_Rabbit
03/15/19 9:57:55 AM
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argonautweakend posted...
I have zero idea why that would cost 80 dollars.


it would only cost that much if it's okay of print, rare, and highly sought. You can buy new vinyls for $20-$30.
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