Current Events > Do you support daylight savings?

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Phenomenal_one
03/14/19 2:50:47 PM
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*farts*
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fenderbender321
03/14/19 2:53:27 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
The practical effect is that in the summer, when people stay outside later, the sun sets later in the day.


Summer already has daylight that lasts several hours longer. Why does the rich need to get richer?
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Drivecar
03/14/19 7:35:52 PM
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Phenomenal_one posted...
*farts*

Dont
Phenomenal_one
03/14/19 8:15:42 PM
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Drivecar posted...
Phenomenal_one posted...
*farts*

Dont


Its already been done. Breathe it in
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Drivecar
03/14/19 8:38:50 PM
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Phenomenal_one posted...
Drivecar posted...
Phenomenal_one posted...
*farts*

Dont


Its already been done. Breathe it in

I would say shut the fuck up
But it would be bad. Oh wait
SpriteLimit
03/14/19 8:40:15 PM
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Yes. DST is better than normal time. If anything keep daylight savings time
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DoctorVader
03/14/19 9:00:49 PM
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LostForest posted...
New York. The sun generally rises around 7am in the shittiest parts of winter. If it's an hour ahead, it'd be around 8am, which again, is still before any elementary kids are leaving for school.
Middle School and High School, okay, but i think teenagers are able to cope with walking in the dark a little.

Like i said, as is, kids are walking home in the dark during the winter, so it basically comes down to whether you want them walking when it's half-dark in the morning or half-dark in the evening. Personally, i don't care, but if you asked me which is safer, I'd say morning since there's fewer cars on the roads, fewer people out on the streets, and in general less going on than the 4pm region, which is prime rush hour.

I don't agree with DST, but what part of NY has kids walking home in the dark at 4:30 PM? If DST remains, it would be 5:30 PM.

In NYC and even LI, schools do start by 8 and you're out by 3. Middle and High School (upper classman) start at 7. I don't think being in class that early in the morning for an hour while it's dark out is gonna be good for young people. I had to be out my place at 6:30AM to get to high school using the public buses.
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Phenomenal_one
03/14/19 10:49:26 PM
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Drivecar posted...
Phenomenal_one posted...
Drivecar posted...
Phenomenal_one posted...
*farts*

Dont


Its already been done. Breathe it in

I would say shut the fuck up
But it would be bad. Oh wait


Ill shut up but the farts will continue.
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Drivecar
03/15/19 7:00:00 AM
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Phenomenal_one posted...
Drivecar posted...
Phenomenal_one posted...
Drivecar posted...
Phenomenal_one posted...
*farts*

Dont


Its already been done. Breathe it in

I would say shut the fuck up
But it would be bad. Oh wait


Ill shut up but the farts will continue.

This has nothing to do with the topic
Perascamin
03/15/19 7:05:05 AM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
From what I understand, we need more morning sunlight so that it's not dark when the kids go to school

Fuck the kids. Adults need daylight after work.
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CanuckCowboy
03/15/19 7:08:39 AM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Not even a week later and the lost hour doesn't matter at all and I am very happy that the sun sets an hour later.


Which is why it should stay like this all the time.
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Drivecar
03/15/19 8:59:39 AM
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Perascamin posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...
From what I understand, we need more morning sunlight so that it's not dark when the kids go to school

Fuck the kids. Adults need daylight after work.

If kids dont go to school you go to court smart one :D
fenderbender321
03/15/19 9:02:58 AM
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See look at this bullshit.

Cold.

Dark.

Depressing

Well time for work!
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fenderbender321
03/15/19 9:03:40 AM
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Oh and DST screws over people who work in the hospitality industry too. They are required to work later and later at night as people shove back their dinner plans an extra hour.
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LostForest
03/15/19 9:31:18 AM
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DoctorVader posted...
LostForest posted...
New York. The sun generally rises around 7am in the shittiest parts of winter. If it's an hour ahead, it'd be around 8am, which again, is still before any elementary kids are leaving for school.
Middle School and High School, okay, but i think teenagers are able to cope with walking in the dark a little.

Like i said, as is, kids are walking home in the dark during the winter, so it basically comes down to whether you want them walking when it's half-dark in the morning or half-dark in the evening. Personally, i don't care, but if you asked me which is safer, I'd say morning since there's fewer cars on the roads, fewer people out on the streets, and in general less going on than the 4pm region, which is prime rush hour.

I don't agree with DST, but what part of NY has kids walking home in the dark at 4:30 PM? If DST remains, it would be 5:30 PM.

In NYC and even LI, schools do start by 8 and you're out by 3. Middle and High School (upper classman) start at 7. I don't think being in class that early in the morning for an hour while it's dark out is gonna be good for young people. I had to be out my place at 6:30AM to get to high school using the public buses.


My bad, I was off a little bit. Elementary kids are usually out by 3:30pm. I see them getting off the bus around here like around 4pm so I thought it was a little later.

But either way, if it were permanent DST the sun would be like 3:30pm not the other way around.
Or do you mean, to compensate for the dark in the morning, they'd need to start school an hour later? Cuz honestly starting school an hour later would be a great idea.
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Damn_Underscore
03/15/19 9:46:15 AM
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fenderbender321 posted...
Oh and DST screws over people who work in the hospitality industry too. They are required to work later and later at night as people shove back their dinner plans an extra hour.


It seems like it benefits all the people who go out to dinner because they get to have longer nights.
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DoctorVader
03/15/19 10:38:55 AM
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LostForest posted...
My bad, I was off a little bit. Elementary kids are usually out by 3:30pm. I see them getting off the bus around here like around 4pm so I thought it was a little later.

But either way, if it were permanent DST the sun would be like 3:30pm not the other way around.
Or do you mean, to compensate for the dark in the morning, they'd need to start school an hour later? Cuz honestly starting school an hour later would be a great idea.

No, sunset would be 5:30 PM. And out by 3:30 PM is not universal. Some schools down here are out by 2:30, most 3.

And no, starting school late would not be beneficial and would just affect the schedules of parents for no real benefits.
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LostForest
03/15/19 11:25:52 AM
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DoctorVader posted...
No, sunset would be 5:30 PM.


Yeah, that's what i'm saying. At DST 4:30, the sun would be at the equivalent of 3:30, which means at DST 5:30, it would be at the equivalent of 4:30, which is when sunset would be normally. Sunset at 5:30 would be great for elementary kids and extracurricular JH/HS stuff which normally would be letting out in the dark.

DoctorVader posted...
And out by 3:30 PM is not universal. Some schools down here are out by 2:30, most 3.


Calm down, I never said it was universal. I even admitted i was wrong about it the first time. I literally said they get off the bus in the 4pm region around here, not everywhere. Unless you live in my school district, i'm not referring to your area lol.

DoctorVader posted...
And no, starting school late would not be beneficial and would just affect the schedules of parents for no real benefits.


Children getting home after their parents are home from work isn't a benefit?
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littlebro07
03/15/19 11:36:05 AM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
SauI_Goodman posted...
No, Arizona does it right.

i mean, it does it mostly right. they don't observe daylight savings time. except for the native american reservation in arizona that does. except for the other native american reservation within that native american reservation that doesn't. except for the part within that native american reservation within the native american reservation that does.

yeah.

2ibQ0W3

https://www.timeanddate.com/time/us/arizona-no-dst.html


what the fuck
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DoctorVader
03/15/19 11:37:55 AM
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LostForest posted...
Yeah, that's what i'm saying. At DST 4:30, the sun would be at the equivalent of 3:30, which means at DST 5:30, it would be at the equivalent of 4:30, which is when sunset would be normally. Sunset at 5:30 would be great for elementary kids and extracurricular JH/HS stuff which normally would be letting out in the dark.

Your original argument was that it's about choosing walking in the dark to school in the morning or coming home in the dark after school. I'm saying no kids are ever walking home in the dark anywhere and it's very isolated.

LostForest posted...
Calm down, I never said it was universal. I even admitted i was wrong about it the first time. I literally said they get off the bus in the 4pm region around here, not everywhere. Unless you live in my school district, i'm not referring to your area lol.

No, but your OP was wondering where these things happen and then you used your personal experience to justify it for the whole country.

I asked where you're from in NY because place like NYC, as well as most major cities, have that schedule I brought up. So calling for DST based on your limited experience is kind of stupid.

LostForest posted...
Children getting home after their parents are home from work isn't a benefit?

Because then school would be out by 4, which is not after 5. Remember, there's a whole country outside your likely Upstate hick town.
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Questionmarktarius
03/15/19 11:52:51 AM
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DevsBro posted...
It also complicates business and time-linked data, especially when it comes to reporting.

Anything "important" is locked into UTC and/or Unix time.
fenderbender321
03/15/19 12:31:28 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
Oh and DST screws over people who work in the hospitality industry too. They are required to work later and later at night as people shove back their dinner plans an extra hour.


It seems like it benefits all the people who go out to dinner because they get to have longer nights.


What' better about eating at 8 instead of 7?
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Perascamin
03/15/19 2:29:11 PM
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Drivecar posted...
Perascamin posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...
From what I understand, we need more morning sunlight so that it's not dark when the kids go to school

Fuck the kids. Adults need daylight after work.

If kids dont go to school you go to court smart one :D

I don't have kids.
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Drivecar
03/15/19 2:48:55 PM
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Perascamin posted...
Drivecar posted...
Perascamin posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...
From what I understand, we need more morning sunlight so that it's not dark when the kids go to school

Fuck the kids. Adults need daylight after work.

If kids dont go to school you go to court smart one :D

I don't have kids.

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