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Drivecar
03/14/19 9:19:09 AM
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Do you support daylight savings? - Results (15 votes)
Yes
20% (3 votes)
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No
80% (12 votes)
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What is it?
0% (0 votes)
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https://www.change.org/p/donald-j-trump-keep-daylight-saving-time/share_for_starters?just_created=true
If so, please sign
Drivecar
03/14/19 9:19:59 AM
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I didnt mean for it to go to trump, I meant for it to go to U.S department of transportation?
Master_Bass
03/14/19 9:30:15 AM
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No, please abolish this stupid time change already. The cons outweigh the benefits.
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DevsBro
03/14/19 9:38:19 AM
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Master_Bass posted...
No, please abolish this stupid time change already. The cons outweigh the benefits.

Yes, there are indeed more than zero cons.
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EndOfDiscOne
03/14/19 9:40:02 AM
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So if we got rid of time changes, would we be stuck on summer time or winter time?
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DevsBro
03/14/19 9:40:58 AM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
So if we got rid of time changes, would we be stuck on summer time or winter time?

Whichever one puts midnight in the middle of the night.
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Master_Bass
03/14/19 9:43:00 AM
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DevsBro posted...
Master_Bass posted...
No, please abolish this stupid time change already. The cons outweigh the benefits.

Yes, there are indeed more than zero cons.

https://www.nbcnews.com/know-your-value/amp/ncna929546
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Solid Sonic
03/14/19 9:44:09 AM
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Time shifting is stupid and that petition makes zero arguments why it should stay.
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DevsBro
03/14/19 11:17:54 AM
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Master_Bass posted...
DevsBro posted...
Master_Bass posted...
No, please abolish this stupid time change already. The cons outweigh the benefits.

Yes, there are indeed more than zero cons.

https://www.nbcnews.com/know-your-value/amp/ncna929546

Yeah there are lots of downsides and no upsides. It also complicates business and time-linked data, especially when it comes to reporting.
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SauI_Goodman
03/14/19 11:18:45 AM
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No, Arizona does it right.
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PikachuMaxwell
03/14/19 11:19:25 AM
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No. Outdated concept.
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Damn_Underscore
03/14/19 11:19:39 AM
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Not even a week later and the lost hour doesn't matter at all and I am very happy that the sun sets an hour later.
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Darkman124
03/14/19 11:21:34 AM
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the changes to meeting times with the numerous contractors in AZ i have to work with makes my life hell
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t_paynes_ghost
03/14/19 11:21:48 AM
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I think it's dumb, but personally I love early winter nights, and late summer evenings, so I'm fine with it.
Antifar
03/14/19 11:24:20 AM
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How else are you going to afford a daylight house?
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Sunburst
03/14/19 11:36:55 AM
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Yes, I love D savings. Got more time to do stuff.
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Drivecar
03/14/19 11:39:07 AM
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At least dont make it sound like everyone who does is a fricken idiot
gguirao
03/14/19 12:01:47 PM
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No. There's no such thing as "saving daylight." The rising and setting of the Sun don't depend on the time on your watch. By that logic, why not set the clocks back or forward by two hours instead of just one?
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DuranOfForcena
03/14/19 12:06:57 PM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
No, Arizona does it right.

i mean, it does it mostly right. they don't observe daylight savings time. except for the native american reservation in arizona that does. except for the other native american reservation within that native american reservation that doesn't. except for the part within that native american reservation within the native american reservation that does.

yeah.

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https://www.timeanddate.com/time/us/arizona-no-dst.html
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Damn_Underscore
03/14/19 12:09:28 PM
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gguirao posted...
No. There's no such thing as "saving daylight." The rising and setting of the Sun don't depend on the time on your watch. By that logic, why not set the clocks back or forward by two hours instead of just one?


We should honestly.

Having the sun just setting at 10:00 PM in the summer would be amazing
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DuranOfForcena
03/14/19 12:10:05 PM
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gguirao posted...
No. There's no such thing as "saving daylight." The rising and setting of the Sun don't depend on the time on your watch.

do people actually think they are clever when they say stuff like this, or do they just not get what practical effect DST actually has
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EndOfDiscOne
03/14/19 12:11:38 PM
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From what I understand, we need more morning sunlight so that it's not dark when the kids go to school
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SwordMaster13X
03/14/19 12:12:37 PM
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Here are some thoughts on daylight savings time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXdXEXO8SVQ" data-time="

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fenderbender321
03/14/19 12:14:06 PM
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I support standard time all year round.

During winter, DST would be too cold and dark and icy for people commuting in the morning.

During summer, the sun is already out until like 8pm on standard time already, so we don't need DST to stretch it out any further.
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Genocet_10-325
03/14/19 12:15:52 PM
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Year round DST >>> DST as it works now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no dst at all
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coolboy11
03/14/19 12:17:45 PM
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I would prefer year round DST.
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Kombucha
03/14/19 12:17:58 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Having the sun just setting at 10:00 PM in the summer would be amazing


i'm sold.
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fenderbender321
03/14/19 12:19:40 PM
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Kombucha posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
Having the sun just setting at 10:00 PM in the summer would be amazing


i'm sold.


wtf...my bedtime is 9:30 on weekdays. Some of us have an actual fucking job to work year around and arent in school and thus have summer off. Be really shitty trying to go to sleep with the sun still out.
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Genocet_10-325
03/14/19 12:20:17 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
Kombucha posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
Having the sun just setting at 10:00 PM in the summer would be amazing


i'm sold.


wtf...my bedtime is 9:30 on weekdays. Some of us have an actual fucking job to work year around and arent in school and thus have summer off. Be really shitty trying to go to sleep with the sun still out.

Are you like 70? If not you don't need to be in bed that early.
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Kombucha
03/14/19 12:21:43 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
Kombucha posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
Having the sun just setting at 10:00 PM in the summer would be amazing


i'm sold.


wtf...my bedtime is 9:30 on weekdays. Some of us have an actual fucking job to work year around and arent in school and thus have summer off. Be really shitty trying to go to sleep with the sun still out.


what time are you waking up? sounds like a terrible schedule.

i sleep at midnight and wake up at 6:30am on work days.
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fenderbender321
03/14/19 12:21:55 PM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
From what I understand, we need more morning sunlight so that it's not dark when the kids go to school


This.

Why don't people understand this. In northern states, DST would make winter mornings way too cold and dark.
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fenderbender321
03/14/19 12:22:43 PM
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Kombucha posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
Kombucha posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
Having the sun just setting at 10:00 PM in the summer would be amazing


i'm sold.


wtf...my bedtime is 9:30 on weekdays. Some of us have an actual fucking job to work year around and arent in school and thus have summer off. Be really shitty trying to go to sleep with the sun still out.


what time are you waking up? sounds like a terrible schedule.

i sleep at midnight and wake up at 6:30am on work days.


I try to get 9 hours of sleep as is recommended for adults. I get up at 6:30 every morning too.
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Kombucha
03/14/19 12:25:34 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
Kombucha posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
Kombucha posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
Having the sun just setting at 10:00 PM in the summer would be amazing


i'm sold.


wtf...my bedtime is 9:30 on weekdays. Some of us have an actual fucking job to work year around and arent in school and thus have summer off. Be really shitty trying to go to sleep with the sun still out.


what time are you waking up? sounds like a terrible schedule.

i sleep at midnight and wake up at 6:30am on work days.


I try to get 9 hours of sleep as is recommended for adults. I get up at 6:30 every morning too.


it's actually 7-9 hours unless you're 65+, but i get you.
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uwnim
03/14/19 12:27:13 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...

do people actually think they are clever when they say stuff like this, or do they just not get what practical effect DST actually has

Make things less safe for kids going to school because just as it starts to get light enough to see them, dst happens and we are back to things being dark?
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LostForest
03/14/19 12:29:39 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
Kombucha posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
Having the sun just setting at 10:00 PM in the summer would be amazing


i'm sold.


wtf...my bedtime is 9:30 on weekdays. Some of us have an actual fucking job to work year around and arent in school and thus have summer off. Be really shitty trying to go to sleep with the sun still out.


Big fucking deal. I work a fucking job and pay bills too, and I would still love a 9:30 sunset. It's not everyone else's fault you wake up at 4am.

EndOfDiscOne posted...
From what I understand, we need more morning sunlight so that it's not dark when the kids go to school


I don't get this argument. In what dystopia are elementary kids leaving for school at 7am? Hell, non-DST is more likely to have have kids walking home in the dark at 4:30pm than the other way around.
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EndOfDiscOne
03/14/19 12:39:42 PM
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LostForest posted...
I don't get this argument. In what dystopia are elementary kids leaving for school at 7am? Hell, non-DST is more likely to have have kids walking home in the dark at 4:30pm than the other way around.

Where do you live? If we got rid of DST, the sun would rise well after 8 on the shortest days.
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Conflict
03/14/19 12:42:32 PM
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A 9:30 sunset would obviously be hysterical and stupid

But I'm fine with DST. I could understand being against it if you have to have kids walk to school tho, but other than that there's really nothing better about non-DST than DST
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JE19426
03/14/19 12:42:42 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
wtf...my bedtime is 9:30 on weekdays. Some of us have an actual fucking job to work year around and arent in school and thus have summer off. Be really shitty trying to go to sleep with the sun still out.


Get better curtains, or blinds.
Drivecar
03/14/19 12:45:26 PM
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JE19426 posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
wtf...my bedtime is 9:30 on weekdays. Some of us have an actual fucking job to work year around and arent in school and thus have summer off. Be really shitty trying to go to sleep with the sun still out.


Get better curtains, or blinds.

I swear I was going to post a blinds/curtain commercial lol
fenderbender321
03/14/19 12:53:03 PM
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My body can still sense the sun is out even if it is dark in my house.
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LostForest
03/14/19 12:58:56 PM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
LostForest posted...
I don't get this argument. In what dystopia are elementary kids leaving for school at 7am? Hell, non-DST is more likely to have have kids walking home in the dark at 4:30pm than the other way around.

Where do you live? If we got rid of DST, the sun would rise well after 8 on the shortest days.


New York. The sun generally rises around 7am in the shittiest parts of winter. If it's an hour ahead, it'd be around 8am, which again, is still before any elementary kids are leaving for school.
Middle School and High School, okay, but i think teenagers are able to cope with walking in the dark a little.

Like i said, as is, kids are walking home in the dark during the winter, so it basically comes down to whether you want them walking when it's half-dark in the morning or half-dark in the evening. Personally, i don't care, but if you asked me which is safer, I'd say morning since there's fewer cars on the roads, fewer people out on the streets, and in general less going on than the 4pm region, which is prime rush hour.
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DevsBro
03/14/19 1:18:59 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
gguirao posted...
No. There's no such thing as "saving daylight." The rising and setting of the Sun don't depend on the time on your watch.

do people actually think they are clever when they say stuff like this, or do they just not get what practical effect DST actually has

What practical effects does it have?
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DevsBro
03/14/19 1:21:26 PM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
From what I understand, we need more morning sunlight so that it's not dark when the kids go to school

Instead just making shcool start at 9 instead of 8, we declare that time itself must adjust.

I mean, really?
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DuranOfForcena
03/14/19 1:25:47 PM
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DevsBro posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
gguirao posted...
No. There's no such thing as "saving daylight." The rising and setting of the Sun don't depend on the time on your watch.

do people actually think they are clever when they say stuff like this, or do they just not get what practical effect DST actually has

What practical effects does it have?

no one has ever honestly, knowledgeably claimed that DST "saves daylight" or in any way creates more daylight, or changes the astrophysics of the sun. it simply changes our clocks and shifts the time that daylight covers to later into our day than it would have otherwise.
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DevsBro
03/14/19 1:30:48 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
DevsBro posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
gguirao posted...
No. There's no such thing as "saving daylight." The rising and setting of the Sun don't depend on the time on your watch.

do people actually think they are clever when they say stuff like this, or do they just not get what practical effect DST actually has

What practical effects does it have?

no one has ever honestly, knowledgeably claimed that DST "saves daylight" or in any way creates more daylight, or changes the astrophysics of the sun. it simply changes our clocks and shifts the time that daylight covers to later into our day than it would have otherwise.

So uh

What practical effects does it have?
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DuranOfForcena
03/14/19 1:31:43 PM
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DevsBro posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
DevsBro posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
gguirao posted...
No. There's no such thing as "saving daylight." The rising and setting of the Sun don't depend on the time on your watch.

do people actually think they are clever when they say stuff like this, or do they just not get what practical effect DST actually has

What practical effects does it have?

no one has ever honestly, knowledgeably claimed that DST "saves daylight" or in any way creates more daylight, or changes the astrophysics of the sun. it simply changes our clocks and shifts the time that daylight covers to later into our day than it would have otherwise.

So uh

What practical effects does it have?

i don't know what else you were expecting, but that's literally what i just explained. what is the point of this post?
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DevsBro
03/14/19 1:35:54 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
DevsBro posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
DevsBro posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
gguirao posted...
No. There's no such thing as "saving daylight." The rising and setting of the Sun don't depend on the time on your watch.

do people actually think they are clever when they say stuff like this, or do they just not get what practical effect DST actually has

What practical effects does it have?

no one has ever honestly, knowledgeably claimed that DST "saves daylight" or in any way creates more daylight, or changes the astrophysics of the sun. it simply changes our clocks and shifts the time that daylight covers to later into our day than it would have otherwise.

So uh

What practical effects does it have?

i don't know what else you were expecting, but that's literally what i just explained. what is the point of this post?

Well I was hoping for something like, it makes the plants grow taller, or, you know, effects that are practical.
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DuranOfForcena
03/14/19 1:38:15 PM
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DevsBro posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
DevsBro posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
DevsBro posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
gguirao posted...
No. There's no such thing as "saving daylight." The rising and setting of the Sun don't depend on the time on your watch.

do people actually think they are clever when they say stuff like this, or do they just not get what practical effect DST actually has

What practical effects does it have?

no one has ever honestly, knowledgeably claimed that DST "saves daylight" or in any way creates more daylight, or changes the astrophysics of the sun. it simply changes our clocks and shifts the time that daylight covers to later into our day than it would have otherwise.

So uh

What practical effects does it have?

i don't know what else you were expecting, but that's literally what i just explained. what is the point of this post?

Well I was hoping for something like, it makes the plants grow taller, or, you know, effects that are practical.

let me state it more simply for you. all DST does is shift the time that daylight happens on our clocks. that was my only point, my entire point, in response to people who criticize it because it doesn't actually "create" more daylight, which is a claim that absolutely no one ever honestly and knowledgeably makes.
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PrideOfLion
03/14/19 1:38:19 PM
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Year round DST > Year round No-DST > As it currently works

I just like having more daylight to do things. I like the night, but I gain nothing having extra daylight while I'm waking up
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Damn_Underscore
03/14/19 2:27:52 PM
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The practical effect is that in the summer, when people stay outside later, the sun sets later in the day.
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