Board 8 > I dig Captain Marvel (eventual spoilers, none in first post)

LurkerFAQs, Active Database ( 12.31.2018-present ), DB1, DB2, DB3 DB4
Topic List
Page List: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
XIII_rocks
03/07/19 12:59:01 PM
1
Just seen it. B, B-, fun MCU stuff

Some really fantastic moments, some a bit too hokey and cgi was a disaster at times. Idk why CGI seems to have taken such a huge backward step between Justice League, Black Panther and this.

I liked Larson in this, she was a good wise-ass, obviously Mendehlson is great because he's always great, and the de-aging on SLJ is absurdly good. The feminism aspect wasn't too overplayed. I was worried it would become cringy and patronising but it was fine. I didn't think there was anything beyond the level of how Eowyn is handled in Return of the King or that sort of thing, which was great.

Backlash will be interesting to watch. This is a perfectly serviceable MCU entry but it's likely going to have every one of its (legitimate) flaws exaggerated beyond belief, and some entirely fabricated (as with TLJ) to make it sound way worse than it is.
---
Not to be confused with XIII_Stones.
Snrkiko
03/07/19 1:00:07 PM
2
does Jackson convincingly pull off being 30 years younger?
---
...Snrk.
And theeen, we do stuff like, 'Persona!' with our Personas and beat the crap outta Shadows...
scarletspeed7
03/07/19 1:03:22 PM
3
Going to see it Saturday. How does my boy Phil look?
---
"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful
XIII_rocks
03/07/19 1:05:03 PM
4
Snrkiko posted...
does Jackson convincingly pull off being 30 years younger?


Hard to know. He's SLJ. I guess so?

scarletspeed7 posted...
Going to see it Saturday. How does my boy Phil look?


Not bad

I loved the 90s nostalgia actually. I wish there was even a little more of it.
---
Not to be confused with XIII_Stones.
OliviaTremor
03/07/19 1:32:33 PM
5
Whats the probability Captain Marvel is in Endgame? I really dont want her to be simply because I would prefer if its the characters Ive gotten to know leading up to the beginning of Infinity War as opposed to some, for all intents and purposes, random person coming out of no where to save the day.
---
Notyou
scarletspeed7
03/07/19 1:33:02 PM
6
I thought she was confirmed to be in the movie already.
---
"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful
Bane_Of_Despair
03/07/19 1:35:31 PM
7
Infinity War spoilersLiterally the very last shot of the post credits scene in Infinity War is Fury calling for her isn't it

Dunno if it's spoilers still but I guess just in case
---
You were the cancer, that's all you'll ever be
...and when the Clouds cleared,Advokaiser stood alone as CBX Guru Champ
Sorozone
03/07/19 1:36:42 PM
8
I thought it was average. Not the worst in the MCU not the best. Wouldn't go out of my way to watch it again.
---
LinkMarioSamus
03/07/19 1:51:40 PM
9
Haven't seen it yet. Both Jeremy Jahns and Chris Stuckmann found this movie to be So Okay, It's Average, but the latter encouraged people to see it and make up their minds rather than swaying to agendas.

I don't agree with Brie Larson's infamous retort towards white male critics last year (in response to A Wrinkle in Time's panning), but boy howdy does it not deserve so much backlash.

Just for people to know, this movie was apparently supposed to be made a good while earlier but executive pressure from former Marvel CEO Ike Perlmutter ensured it wouldn't, since he stupidly believed that superhero movies without white male leads wouldn't sell. The way Chris Stuckmann described it made it seem like it was a Phase 1 or 2 movie released far too late, to the point it might as well be some lost Marvel adventure hastily put into production to capitalize on the success of Wonder Woman. Basically Marvel saying "oh hey this was supposed to come out earlier, but we'll just put it out now to hold you until Endgame".
---
"Nothing I could do!"
-Darksydephil
iiicon
03/07/19 2:57:33 PM
10
OliviaTremor posted...
Whats the probability Captain Marvel is in Endgame? I really dont want her to be simply because I would prefer if its the characters Ive gotten to know leading up to the beginning of Infinity War as opposed to some, for all intents and purposes, random person coming out of no where to save the day.

all of the avengers from the first avengers movies are around in endgame, and captain marvel's movie is coming out before endgame, so you've already got your wish.
---
ICON:
Kiwami means extreme.
OliviaTremor
03/07/19 4:32:10 PM
11
iiicon posted...
OliviaTremor posted...
Whats the probability Captain Marvel is in Endgame? I really dont want her to be simply because I would prefer if its the characters Ive gotten to know leading up to the beginning of Infinity War as opposed to some, for all intents and purposes, random person coming out of no where to save the day.

all of the avengers from the first avengers movies are around in endgame, and captain marvel's movie is coming out before endgame, so you've already got your wish.


Except not really. Imagine reading a book, then in page 1600 of the 1700 page book some character you've never heard of with the exception of a hint on page 1599 that they exist comes in and saves the day. That's lame.
---
Notyou
Sorozone
03/07/19 4:34:36 PM
12
Eh. I hope she doesn't save the day. Nothing the movie really showed she was super power full. Or at the very least not as strong as Thor(ie tanking a dying star).

I hope it's not that, but who knows.
---
XIII_rocks
03/07/19 4:36:48 PM
13
Also neat little bit of casting. Heavy spoilers.

Casting Mendelsohn as the villain but having him not be a villain. There's this extra layer of meta stuff going on there since Mendelsohn, to me anyway, is more known as a "villain" actor due to Rogue One and Ready Player One. So when he turns out to be a (relatively) good guy it's that little bit more surprising because you're expecting another Krennic or whatever.
---
Not to be confused with XIII_Stones.
XIII_rocks
03/07/19 4:38:28 PM
14
Sorozone posted...
Eh. I hope she doesn't save the day. Nothing the movie really showed she was super power full. Or at the very least not as strong as Thor(ie tanking a dying star).

I hope it's not that, but who knows.


She looked pretty damn powerful man
---
Not to be confused with XIII_Stones.
Sorozone
03/07/19 4:41:42 PM
15
Oh I know. I'm just saying I don't expect her to come and save they day.

As in she'll make a difference in endgame but I don't think she is going to be the sole reason they win.
---
iiicon
03/07/19 5:23:11 PM
16
OliviaTremor posted...
Except not really. Imagine reading a book, then in page 1600 of the 1700 page book some character you've never heard of with the exception of a hint on page 1599 that they exist comes in and saves the day. That's lame.

okay but the Marvel movies aren't one continuous story and you're going to get like a three hour movie where Captain Marvel is integrated into the team so again you are getting what you asked for - more time with your Marvel buddies - so I don't think your analogy is very good or worries well-founded?
---
ICON:
Kiwami means extreme.
OliviaTremor
03/07/19 5:46:12 PM
17
Disagree. I think my concerns are well founded and the analogy is fine. I will see Captain Marvel, and hell maybe I'll like her in Endgame, but I still don't like that she was thrown in there so late in the game. It's kind of a last minute addition in the literal middle of a huge cinematic movie universe climax.
---
Notyou
CoolCly
03/07/19 6:01:48 PM
18
I'm with iiicon on this one. I can kind of see your point if she literally shows up as a deus ex machina and fixes everything, but knowing how the MCU has always fit these characters together, she'll probably just slide into the plot snugly into her own place just like Ant-man will. There's nothing wrong with adding her at this point... just like adding the other 100 characters in Infinity War was fine.

It's certainly not a last minute addition... it's just the most recent addition, just like BP was the most recent addition before Infinity war.
---
The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG
OliviaTremor
03/07/19 6:21:24 PM
19
Yeah I guess. It's just odd to me because for all intents and purposes I viewed Infinity War and Endgame as one movie-- IW part 1 and part 2 as they initially were. So to me it really just felt like, especially with IW stinger, that there is going to be this person never mentioned in the previous 20 movies or whatever to save the day in the middle of a two part movie.

Then again I thought IW wasn't a great movie at all anyway so there's that as well I guess. It was overstuffed, lots of the characters lacked what made them great (Cap, Black Panther, pretty much everyone on Earth), and yeah. Anyway I'm gonna dip from this topic until I actually see Captain Marvel. It seems like my opinion is an odd one.
---
Notyou
ScareChan
03/08/19 2:25:23 AM
20
Just saw it, I enjoyed it a lot more than I expected. Larson was great, maybe the most likeable main character in an MCU movie even
---
Lets Smash- Switch friend code SW-5264-0547-1806
PSN TehScurr
LinkMarioSamus
03/08/19 5:28:01 AM
21
I keep hearing that Brie Larson doesn't want white men watching the movie. Certainly not true, right? Every source I can find is biased.
---
"Nothing I could do!"
-Darksydephil
XIII_rocks
03/08/19 5:46:53 AM
22
Blatant out-of-context bullshit and exaggeration that nobody takes seriously
---
Not to be confused with XIII_Stones.
XIII_rocks
03/08/19 5:47:13 AM
23
LinkMarioSamus posted...
Every source I can find is biased.


I mean this should be a clue
---
Not to be confused with XIII_Stones.
LinkMarioSamus
03/08/19 6:36:07 AM
24
Yeah I couldn't find anything. Also even Midnight's Edge debunked it.

People just get offended so easily nowadays, and that extends even to people who complain about that.
---
"Nothing I could do!"
-Darksydephil
Dels
03/08/19 6:48:04 AM
25
LMS if you are going to keep hanging around circles with the kinds of people who get offended over this stuff you are going to have to get a bit more savvy about it instead of constantly being confused about why people act that way
HanOfTheNekos
03/08/19 7:38:27 AM
26
OliviaTremor posted...
Whats the probability Captain Marvel is in Endgame? I really dont want her to be simply because I would prefer if its the characters Ive gotten to know leading up to the beginning of Infinity War as opposed to some, for all intents and purposes, random person coming out of no where to save the day.


They've made two cuts of Endgame based on the reception to Captain Marvel. If it does well, expect more Brie. If not, expect less.

So she'll be in the movie no matter what, but you can apparently increase and decrease her inclusion to enough of a degree that it won't make a huge difference on the outcome of Endgame.
---
"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic
LinkMarioSamus
03/08/19 7:38:29 AM
27
I don't want to be trapped in an echo chamber!
---
"Nothing I could do!"
-Darksydephil
Raka_Putra
03/08/19 8:11:10 AM
28
It was fine. I fell asleep in the climactic battle but that always happens with action movies. The character herself is...okay, not very charismatic, intriguing, or w/e but not actively bad.
---
Fuhlt nicht durch dich Sarastro Todesschmerzen,
So bist du meine Tochter nimmermehr-- eeeeeeeeeeeeeeehr.
ExThaNemesis
03/08/19 8:12:12 AM
29
does Brie Larson sing Black Sheep in this movie y/n
---
"undertale hangs out with mido" - ZFS
Smash Ultimate Switch Code: SW-6933-1523-8505
redrocket
03/08/19 8:45:47 AM
30
OliviaTremor posted...
iiicon posted...
OliviaTremor posted...
Whats the probability Captain Marvel is in Endgame? I really dont want her to be simply because I would prefer if its the characters Ive gotten to know leading up to the beginning of Infinity War as opposed to some, for all intents and purposes, random person coming out of no where to save the day.

all of the avengers from the first avengers movies are around in endgame, and captain marvel's movie is coming out before endgame, so you've already got your wish.


Except not really. Imagine reading a book, then in page 1600 of the 1700 page book some character you've never heard of with the exception of a hint on page 1599 that they exist comes in and saves the day. That's lame.


You keep saying, saves the day.

You do realize there is a lot of space between, appears in the movie, and, saves the day, right?

Its hard to take you seriously, and it makes people think there might be an agenda behind your complaint, when you immediately jump to the most hyperbolic scenario.
---
It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest
ExThaNemesis
03/08/19 9:19:12 AM
31
redrocket posted...
Its hard to take you seriously, and it makes people think there might be an agenda behind your complaint, when you immediately jump to the most hyperbolic scenario.


bruh you can have concerns about cptn. marvel's late inclusion into the franchise without being an anti-feminist woman hater.

I don't really have any concerns because I think it's obviously gonna be a massive team effort with contribution from everyone and I am THE anti-feminist woman hater* here lol

*this is just for the sake of the argument I do not actually hate women tysm
---
"undertale hangs out with mido" - ZFS
Smash Ultimate Switch Code: SW-6933-1523-8505
AquaArcane
03/08/19 9:22:21 AM
32
ExThaNemesis posted...
does Brie Larson sing Black Sheep in this movie y/n

sadly no, like sure the movie takes place long before that song even existed but still, more metric plz

also the movie was good just like any marvel movie, easy formula for easy views. though I will say this is probably the best origin movie(I hate origin stories)
---
Find the balance. Accept the pain, but don't accept that you deserve it.
redrocket
03/08/19 9:41:26 AM
33
ExThaNemesis posted...
I don't really have any concerns because I think it's obviously gonna be a massive team effort with contribution from everyone and I am THE anti-feminist woman hater* here lol


Cool. Thats a far cry from melodramatic hand wringing over the mere possibility that Captain Marvel is going to, save the day.
---
It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest
CasanovaZelos
03/08/19 9:43:31 AM
34
This felt like a phase 1 Marvel film to me. I'm tired of all the focus being on Brie when I feel like the actual problem areas were structural. It tried to juggle Kree-Skrull stuff, 90s nostalgia Earth, and Nick Fury's beginnings, and a lot of it collided instead of meshed - and the first two just aren't that interesting in the first place? At least to me.

I also feel like it's a victim of timing. Captain Marvel is kind of being treated like a sleeper agent in the current timeline, but I think that would have been more effective if we as an audience knew about her sooner. Like, introduce us to her a bit before Infinity War and have her be conspicuously absent until Endgame. Because even if she doesn't 'save the day,' it's still a character coming out of nowhere and giving the team the extra edge they will likely need - not that it's a problem for Endgame as much as it makes the film Captain Marvel feel like a necessary footnote before the main plot can continue.
---
Board 8's Top 250 Games 2016 Edition: https://casanovazelos.wordpress.com/2016/04/26/b8top250/
Advokaiser won the Guru thing. Good job.
XIII_rocks
03/08/19 9:56:37 AM
35
It did feel very phase 1 yes

I don't mind that though. But you're right, even though I can't quite figure out what made this feel phase 1ish but not, say, Dr. Strange.
---
Not to be confused with XIII_Stones.
LinkMarioSamus
03/08/19 11:10:14 AM
36
Still unbelievably pissed off about how much Brie Larson has been made out to be some bigoted misandrist just because of her repeated usage of "white male" and variations thereof in a remotely pejorative way.

As for the movie itself, the basic premise does interest me a good deal and I want to support the MCU.
---
"Nothing I could do!"
-Darksydephil
Bane_Of_Despair
03/08/19 11:10:59 AM
37
I mean it's white guys on the internet, what do you expect
---
You were the cancer, that's all you'll ever be
...and when the Clouds cleared,Advokaiser stood alone as CBX Guru Champ
GenesisSaga
03/08/19 11:12:06 AM
38
XIII_rocks posted...
Also neat little bit of casting. Heavy spoilers.

Casting Mendelsohn as the villain but having him not be a villain. There's this extra layer of meta stuff going on there since Mendelsohn, to me anyway, is more known as a "villain" actor due to Rogue One and Ready Player One. So when he turns out to be a (relatively) good guy it's that little bit more surprising because you're expecting another Krennic or whatever.

I agree this was pretty brilliant

When he started touching that autopsy Skrull's face and practically kissed it I thought to myself "Oh, here we go again" only to go never mind then later. Good stuff.
---
"You're stronger than you believe. Don't let your fear own you. Own yourself." - Michelle Hodkin
JackMan
03/08/19 11:30:07 AM
39
I really liked it! Brie and Jackson had good chemistry throughout and I loved all the nods to some of the other Captain Marvels.

And yeah, I don't think she's going to show up and save the day singlehandedly in Endgame anymore than Black Panther or Spider-Man did in Civil War. She'll definitely be one of the powerhouses in the final fight though.
---
Still the number one reason for the success of the Internet.
Salutations, citizens! Jack Man here. https://www.youtube.com/user/JackManPlays
XIII_rocks
03/08/19 11:38:56 AM
40
I thlnk it's interesting how some people fear the feminist agenda (or, generously, "bad storytelling" in general) more than they trust the Russos to not do that
---
Not to be confused with XIII_Stones.
MajinZidane
03/08/19 11:38:58 AM
41
what does "feels phase 1" even mean, yes it was an origin movie without a majority of the rest of the MCU in it.
---
Virtue - "You don't need a reason to Boko United."
Emeraldegg
03/08/19 12:00:16 PM
42
I think the thing is that with where the overall story is in the MCU, it feels a little late to be introducing a new character.
---
I'm a greener egg than the eggs from dr. seuss
CasanovaZelos
03/08/19 12:14:17 PM
43
To me, the phase 1 films (beside Iron Man) simply feel like narrative establishment. The later introductions such as Black Panther, Guardians, Doctor Strange, Spider-Man, they all establish their own voice within the universe. Black Panther had phenomenal set and costume design, Guardians operated as a ragtag group of unknowns, Doctor Strange avoided the overuse of combat tropes, Spider-Man got to mix in a high school plot. They all did something extra.

Meanwhile, Captain Marvel feels like another Marvel superhero. It lacks the extra spark of the others. Which, as I said before, feels largely due to it trying to tackle several themes and styles but not giving any enough room to breathe.
---
Board 8's Top 250 Games 2016 Edition: https://casanovazelos.wordpress.com/2016/04/26/b8top250/
Advokaiser won the Guru thing. Good job.
CoolCly
03/08/19 12:27:37 PM
44
I guess this is just going to be general disagreement on phase 1 - Thor and Captain America weren't top tier films within the MCU but they did a fantastic job of bringing their own style. It's why seeing them all come together in the Avengers worked so well to begin with... It's literally the strongest aspect of phase 1, creating that synergy when the movies were mostly just "good" instead of "great"
---
The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG
ScepterOfLove
03/08/19 12:39:07 PM
45
I wonder if people who are saying the character was introduced too late would keep the same opinion if Captain Marvel had released before Infinity War. Ideally Marvel Studios probably would have wanted to do that, but it's not like they could release Infinity War in March and then Endgame in April this year and expect the same fan reaction/box office turnout. Something had to go in between the two movies.
---
"Yet here we are, shaking our booties..."
CoolCly
03/08/19 12:42:38 PM
46
Well lets be clear that this was planned a very long time ago and it's not like Captain Marvel was a last minute rush job they are trying to fit into the franchise out of nowhere

After all, this classic moment had this structure all planned out (though release date got pushed back a bit)

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQn5Qm-L4Jf9stIPx7Dx-4yyUzf0I_ek1WOusaUcYR8mag8IG7s

RIP Inhumans
---
The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG
CasanovaZelos
03/08/19 12:46:31 PM
47
We also had Ant-Man and the Wasp between, which I think worked better in the role due to being a rather light distraction from the main event. It could have been a good time to explore a character who for whatever reason might be in a situation that leaves them unaware of the main conflict. Captain Marvel feels essential, but in a background way - it doesn't bridge the gap between the two parts, so having it pop up in the middle makes it feel like an afterthought.
---
Board 8's Top 250 Games 2016 Edition: https://casanovazelos.wordpress.com/2016/04/26/b8top250/
Advokaiser won the Guru thing. Good job.
NewerShadow
03/08/19 2:12:18 PM
48
Serviceable feels about right - it definitely wasnt bad, but I dont think its in the tier of Ragnarok/Cap 2/Guardians/etc.

As far as the actual movie, it felt fragmented at the start, which was kind of disorienting. After she met up with Fury, it felt like it took off and the rest of the movie was on a better level. Feeling like the movie is out of place from the rest of the MCU might also be by design, since Captain Marvel is going to be back after 20-ish years away, right? Theres bound to be some disconnect from the rest of the team when she gets back, especially at her apparent power level.
ZenOfThunder
03/08/19 2:34:09 PM
49
Well I went to the theater and the electric substation next store had caught fire like 2 minutes before I got there so they cancelled my showing and gave me a voucher

I dont have any other time to see this so I just read a detailed plot summary instead and I can say Im pretty happy I missed out. Doesnt seem like a must-see. Ill probably get a cam when I can.
---
drooling while eating
Advokaiser is my rock
LinkMarioSamus
03/08/19 2:43:53 PM
50
Argh I need to see this movie since I keep wanting to rationalize Brie Larson's politics and how it has affected the way people view this movie.

I do have a bit of a problem with the notion that Captain Marvel should have been introduced earlier though. It makes me feel like Wonder Woman being introduced early in the DC Universe, with trailers even spoiling her debut in Batman v. Superman, was unfortunately a big part of the reason why Wonder Woman didn't face so much anti-feminist backlash like Ghostbusters, The Last Jedi, or Captain Marvel, along with Wonder Woman already being a brand name with a lot of history behind it and the DC Extended Universe being in its infancy at the time as opposed to Ghostbusters, Star Wars, and the MCU being more established.

God, I want to give more of my thoughts on Larson's infamous anti-white male critic statement from last year. The short story is that I don't agree with her but I think the backlash to that statement is appalling.
---
"Nothing I could do!"
-Darksydephil
Topic List
Page List: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5