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CoolCly 03/09/19 12:09:18 AM #101: |
she didn't keep it a secret
she didnt remember it. the events happening brought those memories to her mind, and she shared it with Vanya as soon as she herself had that information you are being really obtuse about this --- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Johnbobb 03/09/19 12:27:36 AM #102: |
CoolCly posted...
she didn't keep it a secret dude I just watched the episode like 2 hours ago the exact quote was, "He asked me to do something I never understood until now. He made me an accomplice." She then says "I didn't really understand until I came today, until I saw it. Well, now it all makes sense." And then a bit later, "Everything is out in the open. We can move on!" Nowhere does it even imply that she didn't remember it, only that she didn't understand it, which as an adult either makes her the dumbest character or means she never cared enough about Vanya to even think about it. --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CoolCly 03/09/19 12:52:34 AM #103: |
yeah shes a little kid who had an experience she didnt understand
your perspective on this is all wrong its not like she's been thinking that moment and going "oh i wonder why he made me tell vanya she was ordinary, seems weird", it's "oh i have this memory from when i was a kid that i've never really thought about, this must have been what the crazy old man was doing." you are attributing intent here that does not exist --- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GuessMyUserName 03/09/19 12:54:43 AM #104: |
She didn't understand it as a kid. She forgot it and never had a reason to think back to it. Now that Vanya has these powers she remembers and realizes what went on.
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GenesisSaga 03/16/19 4:53:54 PM #105: |
I'm starting this Monday
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Peridiam 03/26/19 8:29:32 PM #106: |
Im through 8 episodes and its not really clicking for me. My wife is somewhat intrigued at least. Im watching because shes watching, but otherwise Id have stopped long ago.
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Waluigi1 03/27/19 2:45:58 AM #107: |
You suck
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GenesisSaga 03/28/19 10:02:30 AM #108: |
Finally watched the first episode. It's pretty good. I like
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GenesisSaga 04/07/19 9:45:03 AM #109: |
May watch more tomorrow
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PerfectChaosZ 04/07/19 2:21:25 PM #110: |
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GenesisSaga 04/15/19 12:18:15 PM #111: |
I really wanted to watch more today, but my Internet is down somehow. No Netflix for me. =/
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LapisLazuli 04/21/19 1:45:53 AM #112: |
I just finished. Haven't read the topic yet, but
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Peace___Frog 04/21/19 8:44:02 AM #113: |
Finished it on Friday. Hazel and cha cha are honestly my favorite characters from the whole thing.
It got really cheesy at times and luther is garbage, but it was still a fine watch. Regarding the spoilers being discussed right now, I interpreted it as, here's this thing that happened that i thought was weird and just forgot about because it was so long ago and i was so young at the time, that i just remembered and it all makes sense now. There are definitely things that i don't actively remember, but if someone said some things, that memory would be jolted into the front of my mind. The main gripe i have is --- ~Peaf~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Waluigi1 04/21/19 8:21:30 PM #114: |
Peace___Frog posted...
The main gripe i have is I wouldn't call it a gripe but I did find myself asking the same thing. Lol --- PSN, and GT: Waluigi1 Switch FC: SW-6848-3841-9099 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZenOfThunder 04/21/19 8:55:56 PM #115: |
He looks like he grew up in a pretty nice house, maybe his dad left him a lot of money? Maybe he sold the property or something?
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PerfectChaosZ 04/21/19 9:03:42 PM #116: |
He had a secret cabin, I don't think he was hurting for money.
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profDEADPOOL 04/21/19 9:05:11 PM #117: |
PerfectChaosZ posted...
He had a secret cabin, I don't think he was hurting for money. Yeah but that doesn't explain why he wasn't hurting for money, when his life story suggests he should be. --- "Let's all go play nagasaki. We can all get vaporized. Hold my hand, let's turn to ash. I'll see you on the other side." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Peace___Frog 04/21/19 10:03:07 PM #118: |
profDEADPOOL posted...
PerfectChaosZ posted...He had a secret cabin, I don't think he was hurting for money. Exactly. Even assuming his father left everything to him, his father wasn't exactly jumping through piles of gold coins. --- ~Peaf~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GenesisSaga 04/28/19 10:07:58 AM #119: |
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skullbone 04/28/19 10:16:04 AM #120: |
Waluigi1 posted...
Peace___Frog posted...The main gripe i have is He had --- skull ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Peace___Frog 04/28/19 11:43:55 AM #121: |
skullbone posted...
Waluigi1 posted...Peace___Frog posted...The main gripe i have is I'm fairly certain that --- ~Peaf~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GenesisSaga 05/03/19 3:11:43 PM #122: |
One day I'll be able to mouse over all these blocks, dammit...
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Waluigi1 05/03/19 4:35:54 PM #123: |
Bruh it's only 10 episodes long lol
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GenesisSaga 05/03/19 5:08:22 PM #124: |
I'm 2 episodes in lol
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CelesMyUserName 05/03/19 5:09:07 PM #125: |
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Bane_Of_Despair 05/07/19 1:24:19 AM #126: |
well I finally got Netflix back and can finally watch it, I feel like I've betrayed Gerard by not being able to watch it on release
5 episodes in, definitely did not expect it to go where it has so far --- You were the cancer, that's all you'll ever be ...and when the Clouds cleared,Advokaiser stood alone as CBX Guru Champ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bane_Of_Despair 05/07/19 1:29:00 AM #127: |
oh one thing I definitely will comment on
1. God damnit Klaus you literally could have told her there were 2 people she saved your life that's the least you could have done. Considering how it panned out that might not have helped in the end but still. 2. So Mary J Blige ended up getting behind her to shoot her, but they did an awful job at making sense of how she got there. I literally had to rewatch scenes before to see that there was a window in the bathroom that I'm guessing she climbed out of to run around back to the room, but they indicated NOTHING of that. --- You were the cancer, that's all you'll ever be ...and when the Clouds cleared,Advokaiser stood alone as CBX Guru Champ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bane_Of_Despair 05/07/19 12:33:53 PM #128: |
6 episodes down now, I feel like it's been enough that I can say I definitely see the criticism with the pacing of the show but it's fun and I just like seeing where they take things so I don't mind too much. And the tone concerns I can understand but again it always set itself up as being weird so that kind of comes with the territory.
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GenesisSaga 05/07/19 2:21:36 PM #129: |
Finished episode 4 today! Finally feeling confident enough to read the first page of discussion and maybe even add to it. We'll see!
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GenesisSaga 05/07/19 4:06:17 PM #130: |
Ha well I guess I'm not even far enough to read more than a third of page one! Once I finish ep 5 (probably Thursday) I'll give my current ranking of the main cast.
I will say that I feel for Vanya and Klaus the most as of the end of episode 4. That eccentric billionaire who's name escapes me gave them the most hell I feel. And they ALL got a pretty raw deal, but I feel the least sorry for Luther and Allison. Something about them just doesn't inspire sympathy and I feel it's something to do with Allison's manipulative powers and Luther's #1 complex. --- "You're stronger than you believe. Don't let your fear own you. Own yourself." - Michelle Hodkin ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bane_Of_Despair 05/07/19 9:09:15 PM #131: |
Alright 9 episodes down
So I remember when this first dropped people putting a character way at the bottom always but I didn't really know names at the time so I never really remembered who which was fine --- You were the cancer, that's all you'll ever be ...and when the Clouds cleared,Advokaiser stood alone as CBX Guru Champ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Waluigi1 05/08/19 3:23:16 AM #132: |
Bane_Of_Despair posted...
Alright 9 episodes down Yup it's him lol --- PSN, and GT: Waluigi1 Switch FC: SW-6848-3841-9099 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bane_Of_Despair 05/08/19 2:11:31 PM #133: |
yay I beat it
THEY NEVER EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE EVERYTHING WAS BECAUSE OF HIM, SHE WAS FINE UNTIL HE FUCKED IT ALL UP --- You were the cancer, that's all you'll ever be ...and when the Clouds cleared,Advokaiser stood alone as CBX Guru Champ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Peace___Frog 05/08/19 2:18:05 PM #134: |
Bane_Of_Despair posted...
yay I beat it Yeah that guy is honestly the worst ever Glad you enjoyed it though! I agree with most of your analysis regarding tone and pacing, but it's an undeniably fun show so that kept me around and is the reason I'm excited for the next season. --- ~Peaf~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bane_Of_Despair 05/08/19 2:32:54 PM #135: |
Klaus
Diego Five Vanya Allison - - - - - - - - - Luthor Luthor.....so he started off really plain. Didn't particularly care for him, he was kind of just fine. Then he actually started to develop with the whole "my life was wasted and Father trapped me" which I really liked! He was really growing on me! Going to the rave and being called a furry was fun, you know he had some stuff going. And then he just had to FUCK IT ALL UP. Literally all Vanya needed was 1. To know Allison wasn't killed 2. Feel like she was part of the family and had people to turn to He literally gave her those things at first. She got to the Academy, he told her Allison was alive, and then actually said this was her home/family yadda yadda and went in for a hug. Perfect. Vanya is SET. BUT OH WAIT NO IT WAS A TRICK AND HE NEEDS TO LOCK HER UP. Even the rest of the family wanted her out, even FUCKIN DIEGO wanted her out! But no Luthor just kept her in there for no fuckin reason. Like hooooooooly shit man. Also honestly Pogo kind of needed to die after willingly being an accomplice like that for so many years, he needed a comeuppance. --- You were the cancer, that's all you'll ever be ...and when the Clouds cleared,Advokaiser stood alone as CBX Guru Champ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GenesisSaga 05/08/19 4:03:44 PM #136: |
Episode 5 beated
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PerfectChaosZ 05/08/19 5:57:48 PM #137: |
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Bane_Of_Despair 05/09/19 9:31:05 AM #138: |
PerfectChaosZ posted...
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GenesisSaga 05/09/19 10:49:45 AM #139: |
And then I got busy at work and crashed after dinner
Midway point rankings: Five Klaus Hazel Diego Vanya Pogo Ben Allison Grace Cha-cha Luther I'm sure there's prominent characters I'm neglecting, but that's where I stand right now. Eccentric billionaire dad would be at the very bottom because, while he started off quirky and interesting, he's been one-note and dickish in all subsequent flashback appearances. I love Hazel's interactions with Donut Lady (Alice I think?) She'd probably be between Vanya and Pogo. By the way when I went to start Ep 6 just now there was a message that said "It's official: Another season is coming". Has that been there for a while? I didn't notice until today. Guess I'd better hurry up and finish this one. I'm hooked! --- "You're stronger than you believe. Don't let your fear own you. Own yourself." - Michelle Hodkin ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PerfectChaosZ 05/09/19 12:30:11 PM #140: |
Oh yeah we heard there was gonna be another season almost right after it aired. Im glad its done really well.
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GenesisSaga 05/17/19 3:57:43 PM #141: |
End of Season 1 Rankings
Klaus Five Hazel Vanya Ben Allison Diego Grace/"Mom" Agnes The Director Deborah Pogo Luther Reginald Hargreaves/"Dad" Cha Cha SEASON 1 SPOILERS FOLLOW Deborah is the divider between characters I like and characters I don't. In other words, if you can't even rank above an inanimate object, you're doing something terribly wrong. I initially liked Pogo. He was nicer to Vanya than anyone other than Grace upon her introduction (and later Leonard, but we see how that went). The show made it very obvious he was keeping secrets, but I thought it would be for some noble reasons rather than being loyal to a fault to a madman. Luther was kind of a trash person almost the whole way through. Like Pogo he's ridiculously loyal to someone who manipulated and abused him, and was the only "child" who stood by his father's side long after all the others had left his crazy ass. Part of me wonders if this was out of some masochistic desire to stay in his good graces and forever be his "number One". The added dynamic with Allison only cheapens both their characters as she's clearly the only thing he cares about other than his father, and he'll go through ridiculous lengths to keep her safe. While I recognize the show/graphic novel needed a catalyst like Hargreaves to set all events in motion they didn't even try to make this man likeable. The little nuggets of his past that indicate he too is a traveler and was aware of an oncoming apocalypse did not escape me. Maybe they will attempt to justify his actions next season, but as of right now he's horrible and not even a somewhat likeable villain like the Director or a tragic one like Vanya. I literally have nothing to say about Cha Cha or Leonard. Both are one note and dull and exist only to motivate characters more interesting than themselves. Vanya and Allison really rose for me; I found their relationship believable and touching, and also kind of heartbreaking. Allison starts out as a bit of a bitch, but she is initially the only one willing to move on from Vanya exposing the family which kept her above most of her brothers for a short while. Her manipulative mind powers were initially a detriment to my liking of her until it was revealed why exactly she refused to use them in recent years, even under dire circumstances. Can you imagine having the same power and struggling not to use it to make your life significantly easier? I feel for her. She paid her dues when she lost her family so I can't fault her for being afraid of herself. Vanya starts off rather boring, but once again this is through no fault of Ellen Page. Despite being "ordinary" and taking emotion suppressing supplements she was still somewhat interesting to me. When her abilities and personality finally began to show through I found her rather endearing. Then the flashbacks happened and oh dear she killed at least one nanny over a bowl of oatmeal. So was she a child psychopath always destined to cause the apocalypse or just a misguided youth Hargreaves thought he could tame? Either way I couldn't bring myself to hate her. The scene with the soundproof spiky room just made me feel even more sorry for her. She didn't ask to be that way and she essentially lost her only family twice! Diego and Ben are alright. Diego's character is saved by his interactions with Klaus and Grace. Otherwise he would just be way too much for me. Diego can be incredibly impulsive which leads to many dumb decisions. Ben, from how seldom we actually see him, is fantastic. It's the little things like Klaus telling him to drop dead and him replying what a low blow that phrase is that make him shine in his few interactions. Grace and Agnes are sweet. Agnes and Hazel are great together. --- "You're stronger than you believe. Don't let your fear own you. Own yourself." - Michelle Hodkin ... Copied to Clipboard!
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firefdr 05/17/19 4:21:14 PM #142: |
who the fuck is Deborah?
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GenesisSaga 05/17/19 4:48:16 PM #143: |
Ah crap I meant Dolores. I am especially terrible at names. :D
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Waluigi1 05/17/19 5:34:27 PM #144: |
GenesisSaga posted...
Vanya and Allison really rose for me; I found their relationship believable and touching, and also kind of heartbreaking. Allison starts out as a bit of a bitch, but she is initially the only one willing to move on from Vanya exposing the family which kept her above most of her brothers for a short while. Her manipulative mind powers were initially a detriment to my liking of her until it was revealed why exactly she refused to use them in recent years, even under dire circumstances. Can you imagine having the same power and struggling not to use it to make your life significantly easier? I feel for her. She paid her dues when she lost her family so I can't fault her for being afraid of herself. Glad I'm not alone in this! I grew to really feel for Allison. I actually find my opinions very similar to yours in general! --- PSN, and GT: Waluigi1 Switch FC: SW-6848-3841-9099 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Peace___Frog 05/17/19 6:55:33 PM #145: |
Hazel is so good
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ChaosTonyV4 05/17/19 7:11:04 PM #146: |
Hazel's actor is a bad actor.
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Waluigi1 05/17/19 8:07:35 PM #147: |
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Hazel's actor is a bad actor. He's not that bad <_< --- PSN, and GT: Waluigi1 Switch FC: SW-6848-3841-9099 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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