Board 8 > Umineko readthrough part 4 by Arria (blind) and Kira (2nd reading) SPOILERS OKAY

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Mega Mana
03/25/20 12:20:15 PM
#201:


Also, Arria is not prepared for Episode 7. It is the most 'It gets worse' chapter of the game, IMO.

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Mega Mana
03/25/20 6:30:03 PM
#202:


Ffff.... looks like my dice want me to play some more.

  • So Rika is definitely not living with Satoko anymore. Her uncle is back and keeping her held hostage. And it's been four days.
  • Damp humid back of school. A place for dead bodies to fester.
  • (Walks away from game because Food Network is addictive; comes back just to the sounds of cicadas buzzing - Harvest Moon 64 summertime nostalgia hits like a truck)
  • Buying expensive soft tofu... for her uncle. Who is keeping her out of school. Her uncle has a lover in Okinomiya? And the aunt and uncle were abusive to Satoko and Satoshi?
  • Keiichi asks my question.
  • Damn... Satoko's eyes. And her speech... "Gosh. It is nearly about lunchtime, is it not? I am just starving." I am ever so famished.
  • Yeah, definitely getting Satoshi killed his aunt vibes.
  • Abuse? Kinzo-style abuse? Did I just call out Teppei in my last post just by talking about how awful Kinzo was? Oh god... please, no. Please, no no no.
  • They reported abuse two years ago.
  • Keiichi, go back. Two minutes. Rena wasn't just showing you how you hurt Mion. She was always showing you a solution you obtuse idiot. Take her in to your home. I'm sure your parents would love to have her. Talk with them, discuss options, stop pawning her off on others when you can do it yourself. Coach was called a doctor twice, and you're like, 'Huh, how does he know first aid?'
  • God I wish that were the end. I can't take much more today.
  • Four bags of stuff just for the uncle, from a faraway store, on her bike. Fuck this guy.
  • ;____;
  • (Takes a two hour nap before viewing TIPS)

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Eerieka
03/28/20 9:30:57 PM
#203:


Thanks for all the responses, Mega Mana. Also, due to the quarantine, Arria and I haven't seen each other, at least not for Umineko reading in a while. We ARE, however, now coworkers! We work at the same place. =)

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Eerieka
04/01/20 11:09:53 AM
#204:


Will says he needs to talk to Kinzo next
A: ooooh, this is gonna be fuuuun.
A: I like that Lion does not take Wills shit, though.

Bern is sitting on Beatrices altar, which the game points out.
A: Its like Ryukishi wrote that and was like yes, you assholes, I want her sitting there and its weird, but fuck you.
K: I think hes also slapping you hard with the idea that Bern is a cat doing cat-like things.
A: Damn. Youre right.

Will: I want Kinzo to spill his beans
A; No one wants Kinzo to spill his beans, least of all Beatrice. Oh good, were at the point I can joke about this!

Now Shannon appears and says shes tending to the reception desk
Arria chuckles when Shannon says she takes turns with Kanon.

Will says this is a bigger cat box than the others and involves pieces of other Fragments that dont all fit together
A: I know the reference to the cat box is Schrdingers cat box, but I also cant help but imagine it as Bern the Cats litter box and shes just shitting out this story.

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Mega Mana
04/06/20 2:56:49 AM
#205:


Eerieka posted...
Thanks for all the responses, Mega Mana. Also, due to the quarantine, Arria and I haven't seen each other, at least not for Umineko reading in a while. We ARE, however, now coworkers! We work at the same place. =)

Congrats!!

I'm sure your co-workers are not ready for *cackle*cackle*

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Eerieka
04/06/20 4:54:13 AM
#206:


Oh it's been fantastic working with her. I work at night and I told her how sometimes I pretend I'm a vampire, sometimes I pretend I'm a vampire hunter, and sometimes I pretend I am the witch who rules the blood bank's night. She liked that last one. =)

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Mega Mana
04/06/20 5:54:04 AM
#207:


Eerieka posted...
Oh it's been fantastic working with her. I work at night and I told her how sometimes I pretend I'm a vampire, sometimes I pretend I'm a vampire hunter, and sometimes I pretend I am the witch who rules the blood bank's night. She liked that last one. =)

XD XD

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Mega Mana
04/08/20 8:10:46 PM
#208:


HIGURASHI CONTINUES

  • Keiichi! Call them! Don't be a hero! Don't make things worse by getting personally and directly involved. Unless you're adopting her. Then that's okay.
  • Yes, Keiichi, talk to your parents about the situation!
  • 'Calm down, Keiichi, and realize you can't talk to your parents.' NO KEIICHI! DON'T LISTEN TO YOURSELF! You're putting the cart before the horse, overthinking everything until you do nothing. Take it from me! I am that guy! Don't do it! Open up, talk, and figure things out. Making huge assumptions, often in the negative, is BAD.
  • Keiichi thinks how hard it would be to add another place to their table of three... while there's a picture of a four-seated table in the background.
  • TALK KEIICHI! TAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLK
  • *facepalm* I hate this game. It's like being chained up and watching a series of bad decisions you can't stop, and unlike passively watching a movie or a television show... I'm actively pressing the button to continue.
  • Keiichi has gone from maybe calling protective services because her uncle is more outwardly abusive than her aunt to... I'm going to secretly kidnap this younger girl to my room and not tell anyone. And the festival hasn't even happened yet.
  • They ganged up on you because you are making decision-faces at the table and you are NOT TALKING TO YOUR PARENTS
  • Tomitake! Both good and bad to see you! Oh the signs of bad times a-comin'...
  • And Miyo! Everyone with sprites has now shown up! Cue the death parade!
  • The curse is her life's work? Huh?
  • "All strange things should be explainable by human actions." Okay, so Miyo isn't a witch.
  • Keiichi can't talk to his parents, but he can sure as hell talk to Miyo and her serial killer stories
  • Whoa! A third part? And we jump past the conversation with Miyo? Keiichi! Don't be an unreliable and suspicious narrator!!!
  • No comment on anything at school. That was tough, and I';m glad Keiichi spoke up.
Those TIPS were tough, too... ;_;

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Mega Mana
04/09/20 10:53:36 PM
#209:


Oh man, next Arria episode is gonna have the Shkanon BSOD which stunned the hell out of me (because I still never picked up on Shkanon at all)

HIGURASHI EPISODE 3 PART 8

  • 'The die of fate had been cast.' I rolled a 6. A choice between 'Higurashi' and 'My Time at Portia' and since we've run out of AA batteries for the moment, keyboard-and-click games get priority over Steam controller addiction. I do really want to build my farm, though. Finally got a Level 2 house and had spent about an hour making the yard agreeable to the size difference, and then my game crashed in a fairly usual place, and I haven't been back since. My body is ready for menial yardwork labor and home decoration... it is not ready for the continuing downward spiral of depression that is Higurashi.
  • Whenever President Mion is called to lead the class, Ludacris plays in my head. "Everybody stand up!"
*switched to watching UpUpDownDown for about two or three hours*

  • Keiichi wants to read some Princess Jellyfish. That's why Mion is so confused. She's gotta step up her punishment games!
  • Kei pleads for Mion to select Satoko's uncle for the curse. Hasn't Satoko lost enough people already?
  • I won't be surprised if Miyo disappears again.
*switched to watching DissociaDID for the first time for about... three hours now?*

  • Survivor: Winners at War has been really good this season, but there's a guy called Adam who's been a major narrator and Kei's post-Mion discussion reminds me a lot of Adam. Lots of assumptions, lots of paranoia, a huge negative tinge to his thoughts. I hate listening to Adam narrate, and Keiichi and his stress feel the same. I think I turned on this chapter about eight hours ago and I'm not even through the first ten minutes of the chapter. -_-
  • There was a one-in-a-hundred chance accusing Mion and her family of being serial killers would've worked out. (SURVIVOR: Just like Adam pissing everyone off and then trying to play an idol at Tribal.)
  • Please let Satoko be safe!!!
  • Oh no.... ;_;
  • Wait, what is Rika trying to say? Is... is Satoko's uncle... her dad?!
  • Oh, okay, ohh... still... WHY CAN'T I QUIT THIS GAME?! I need witches and magic and small lions and magic swords and pettan pettan tsurupettan fishy aroma music to cope with all of this heartbreak, heartbreak, you tell me goodbye
  • Satoko faked injuries to get rid of her stepdad? ;_; ;_;
  • Satoko's traps = Maria's Uu~
  • 'Telling a lie once and making others unable to trust you later.' Lemme guess, Keiichi said something earlier in this chapter, probably even with calling social services, and Satoko doesn't trust him when he tries to help and EVERYTHING IS BAD
  • Agreed with Rika! Stew is great fresh-cooked, but even better when it's had time to stew overnight. (ba dum tish)
  • How does Ryuukishi make eyes look so darn empty and drowning? *shivers*
  • Colors flipped! Hi Pink-haired Mion!
  • Oh, Keiichi, wow. He's gonna kill Uncle Houjou.
  • Keiichi's eyes were really scary for a moment? Oh no, we've been possessed by whatever possesses Rena!
  • Mion's never seen those eyes before? Rena just had them like five minutes ago!
  • Note: Oh, they are going to try and take her into protective custody? Things are going to escalate badly very soon.


I was going to go back and delete a lot of the negativity and anxiety I thought I wrote about, but I guess I didn't as much as I thought. Especially before the second break! Interesting. Definitely a lot of feels though. Uugggh.

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Eerieka
04/11/20 11:53:29 PM
#210:


Haha, yes, this is Shannon's BSOD moment... which is exactly how I phrase it...

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Shannon blue screens. At first Arria didnt know if it was intentional or if the game was screwing up, so I explained it as Shannon blue screening
Shannon: Are you sure you want to call Kanon?
A: Are you sure you want to reformat the C drive?

When Lion and Shannon are on screen together, Arria analyzes them.
A: its really impressive work. You can tell theyre the same person. The slight difference in eye color, the shading in Lions hair being the color of Shannons wig, the same tie, even the same shaped face. Like, you can tell one is wearing a wig and fake boobs, but they are the same person.

After another butt pinch in front of Kinzo, Lion has a *smile* (in the narration)
A: Ryukishi was on something when he wrote this. Something adorable.

Kinzo goes on about not leaving behind a will for his family, struggling onward in life, not dying until he reaches his goal, etc.
A: Good to know hes as sane as ever.

Kinzo: What do you know of Beatrice?
A: More than I want to.

Will: You thought of (the second) Beatrice in ways other than being your daughter
Arria: *visible disgust*
A: Remember that scene a long time ago where a Beatrice broke the vase and then Virgilia fixed it but then a cat or something broke it again? Damn cats it was fucking Bern, wasnt it? Anyway, that Beatrice said something about Father being mad.

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Mega Mana
04/14/20 2:14:21 PM
#211:


HIGURASHI EPISODE 3 PART 9

Start time: 1:33pm EST

  • Saying goodbye to my day already and hello to an equally anxiety-inducing Daredevil Season 2 I'm almost done with. Y'know, for when Higurashi becomes too much.
  • Perfect crimes aren't always the works of God, Keiichi. Sometimes they're witches!
  • 'And Then There Were None' was really good.'Murder on the Orient Express' I also read and thoroughly enjoyed.
  • Whoa... so the perfect crime doesn't even have a beginning with detectives coming to the scene. SO... Umineko wouldn't be Umineko without Shannon placing those messages in bottles and fueling rampant speculation over what would be classified as just a big explosion. Well, except for Eva getting out alive in a fragment. And Battler. Y'know, there really should be a fragment where Shannon doesn't drown. If amnesiac Battler and Aunt Eva fragments exist, why isn't there one of Yasu surviving? Would it be too depressing?
  • Yes, Keiichi. Killing him without anyone finding out and disposing of the body where no one could find would be the perfect crime. It's too bad it's already been done. Four times. In four consecutive years. Keiichi, you are LITERALLY talking about Oyashiro's curse. Where one body is found dead, but the other is vanished completely.
  • Keiichi's need to plan and kill right here? This is because it's been about a week since they last had a game night. Little to Keiichi's knowledge, the club plays games to keep Keiichi occupied and placated knowing without it, he'd turn into a psychopath.
  • Curious new song. Disjointed, off. Like a weird Animal Crossing (GCN at least) early early morning town tune, but with a twist. Especially with the cicadas buzzing.
  • Fffff.... you're thinking of beating her uncle to death with a metal baseball bat? Oh, Keiichi... you really don't know how deep into Satoshi's shoes you're stepping. And you're planning on running away. Leaving Satoko alone. Again. Dammit, Keiichi.
  • One of the rules for standing in for him. Yep, he's gonna be Satoshi. It's a rule that the killer must impersonate Beatrice.
  • Someone please slap Keiichi in the face.
  • Didn't have a time planned. Ah~ that's how Yasu is a much better killer than Keiichi. She had a deadline. A DEAD line. Or, rather more appropriately, a dead LINE. Because of a ceratin character's EMPHASIS.
  • Keiichi's house looks like it has a giant oversized envelope at the top.
  • Ooh... Mion is asking Kei to do it? Is Mion planning the same thing? Is that why she's been drinking? ARE THEY BOTH BLOODTHIRSTY, especially after Keiichi asked her this favor from Oyashiro the other day?
  • ...Oooh, did... did Satoshi do the same thing a year ago? Tell Mion to take care of Satoko while he took care of the aunt?!?
  • Poor Mion, poor Satoko...
  • I'm sorry, I have to read that TIP again. What's being reported? Why did that music hit so hard at the end?
  • So, they arrested a guy for drug possession, and that guy had information only the killer of Aunt Houjou would know, but whoever was interrogating him didn't relay the information properly/didn't recognize the relevance to that separate case, and when it became apparent and fielded to the proper authorities... the suspect died in custody and could not be further interrogated? Hmmm... I don't know why, but I'm getting flashbacks to The Wire Season 4 and everything that happened to Randy.
End: 2:14pm EST. Wow! Not even an hour? That's the fastest time since the end of Episode 2! Usually each episode takes almost eight hours....

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Mega Mana
04/14/20 5:40:33 PM
#212:


HIGURASHI EPISODE 3 PART 10
Start: 5:00pm EST

  • The show must go on!
  • Haha, Keiichi didn't know about d20 so he wanted to make a d20 so he could win at board games!
  • I'm just imagining these flashbacks as something to occupy Keiichi's digging mind.
  • Hahaha, his first time in the classroom was one of Satoko's traps!
  • "It would all be over very soon. Everything would end." I liked the flashes of different scenes in... I was about to say Rokkenjima and now I can't rmemeber the name of the town.
  • Interesting. What's going through Keiichi's mind? What changed everything violet?
  • Geez, Keiichi...
  • *goes about ten minutes without commenting on the entire murder/burial/return sequence*
  • T-Takano?!
  • O.o She knows about the body?! Whaaat?
  • Oh, she was joking... maybe?
  • Oh... and she also maybe probably killed Tomitake?!?!?!?!!?
  • You both killed someone. You both 'didn't see each other' this night. You both are dancing about it. Keiichi, there's one thing you must do right now.
  • Kiss her.
  • "I wish" then silent chimes... I'm fully expecting a golden butterfly to flutter about.
  • Tomitake in the oil drum??!? No lie, when I hear 'forest fire in the mountains' I wanna play Life is Strange: Before the Storm.
  • Wait, they had their eye on the Houjou residence the whole time? And Tomitake clawed out his own throat? Then... who was in the oil drum? And... and who did Keiichi kill?!?!
  • Oh, wait, he left on his motorbike. Okay. So, Keiichi probably did kill Houjou.
Alright, might as well keep going! I'm actually getting through this. Wonder if I can edit in the next phase before the hour is up.


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Mega Mana
04/16/20 1:15:21 PM
#213:


HIGURASHI 3 - PART 12

-Without a body, there isn't a beginning.
-Keiichi happily waving to a lady as he goes off to murder.
-Poor Satoko. Look at this mess...
-O___________________________________O
-She's still alive... for now.
-TEN-THOUSAND?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?
-Keiichi goes crazy and destroys Satoko's house.
-Okay, good ,take her to the clinic.
-Who's the victim they're talking about? Is it Coach? It is! ;_;
-And Ooishi's car is missing?! Oyashiro-sama sure has a lot of victims o_o
-Not feeling comfortable with this almost naked Satoko sprite. Nope, updated is worse.
-I want Satoko to have clothes, too!
-Keiichi's confession to Satoko ;_;
-RIIIKA?!?!?!?!!>!?>#!<!$?<!?$<tl; mdsoh gia
-Who... how... what? It... how...
-Satoko reacts perfectly understandably to seeing Keiichi with a hatchet.
-This bridge scene has me in tears.
-?
-Wait, who was possessed, Satoko? What are you talking about? I'm getting Umineko Episode 3 vibes right now. -You know, the ones at the end where Virgilia and Beatrice are trying to get Battler to acknowledge them as witches right before Virgilia opens her eyes?
-Satoko trying to kill the curse by killing who she thinks is possessed...
-Poor Satoko...

TIPS
-Oyashiro could have many different interpretations? And one of them is that the shrine is the demon?
-Rika's the eighth generation resurrection of the demon??
-Who wrote that? That it would make his or her heart pound with excitement if the world fell back into hell?

PART 13
-*continues thinking it's time for the afterparty, surprised to see Keiichi alive*
-Wow, no cicadas. It must be all over, for the higurashi aren't crying.
-All... all of them are dead... did Keiicih's wish for Hinamizawa to die... come true?
-A survivor? An defense force? What... what's happening?
-He'd been gone a full day before he finally woke up? What... what happened in that time?
-Down along a small river...? If I were to make a case for witchcraft, the demon left Keiichi's body, flowed down the small river, and carried out his last wish.
-Over 1000 victims O_O
-All the colorful boxes... were corpses...
-The footsteps are gone, Keiichi is free.
-Volcanic gas from the swamp... could it have been the motorcycle?
-Keiichi is the only survivor?!
-Those ending credits... I had to screenshot them all because I need to read those mysteryious bits. Very, very good of them to cut up the words like they did so our brain can't process first-letter-last-letter easily.
-THERE'S MORE!
-A journalist? Photography? Is it T-Tomitake? Was he still alive in '95?
-11-28-83 Keiichi Maebara.
-I like the commentary at the bottom.
-And then he died two days later after cursing this person...
-BABY AHAHA.WAV WHAT THE FFFFFF

REVIEW SESSION
-I did enjoy it, Rena! I did! It made my heart hurt.
-YAYYY! Satoko's wearing clothes again!
-Yes, thanks, Rena. Let's clap for all the new portraits, and laugh as Keiichi gets the 'Sorry Matt Damon, we ran out of time' treatment again. CRUEL!

IRIE KYOUSUKE
  • I thought he was an alright guy. Doctor/Coach who knew Satoshi and cared about what was happening to Satoko. He was trusted enough to be Kei's confidante this episode when usually I think it's been Ooishi kind of, sort of. I guess the big mysteries with him right now are: what was he going to do with Keiichi, and why did he commit suicide (apprarently)? Hmm, four bodies that day I haven't really speculated on: Takano, Ooishi(?), Irie, and Ri... Rika. I don't even know where to begin on speculation. If the uncle is dead and he was disappeared before Keiichi tried to dig him up, then... hmm...
  • My gut is telling me... I think...No. Satoko couldn't have killed Rika. But... Satoko felt guilty enough about something to boil herself in the bath, there was food for two, and Rika/Rena/Mion were all lying for both Satoko and Keiichi the day before which Satoko was equally incredulous of, even if she insisted her uncle was still alive? Did she think Rika was possessed? ...No, Rika's body was all the way at the shrine and cut to pieces. I don't think that was Satoko. Maybe Ooishi? No, that's dumb too. I don't know how Rika died. I maybe might suspect Takano because we never saw Tomitake's body, and she seemed like she killed someone, but Rika was at school with them the next day. So she was killed the night Keiichi talked to Coach and dug up the grave. Maybe Coach? But why? I should just continue because I don't even know what I'm trying to answer.
CHIE-SENSEI
  • I don't understand her portrait. Maybe just to be nice to have a teacher around? She didn't do much this episode except exposit and help tell Satoko's story. Maybe thast's all she needed. That and ramen.
-Hahaha, MeepRika<3 wants the foamy barley tea as well
-Plot discussion! Yay!
-Just realized, Shion was in like a single scene this episode, right? The baseball game?
-The mood has been set.
-Three facets are the same:
  • The characters are the same. Rena was scary in the first episode, but she could also be scary here.
  • Tomitake is always dead in the same way in the same place on the same day.
  • ...what's the third facet? Tomitake dying on the same day? Or Takano-Tomitake going into the ritual storehouse?
-Lol Shion. "Yaaay, Big Sis is needed for the bad ending!"
-Whaaaat?! Shion's the main character next time? Maybe this is so Keiichi gets a portrait!
-XD XD, "Well portraits of Kei-chan would be a big waste of disc space."
-I'm just happy everyone doesn't dissolve in bloody goop during these. Thanks Umineko.

Well, that was something!


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Eerieka
04/17/20 10:34:54 PM
#214:


Will then explains the relationships between everyone.
A: Im about to lose my lunch, arent I?
Lion: Stop slandering the Head!
A: its not slander if its true!

Kinzo says his magical ceremonies were helping Beatrice 2 regain her memories
A: No, I dont want to know. I suspect these magical ceremonies violate all laws, upper and lower-case! As well as several laws of decency.

Will: How a man shows his affection for his daughter is no ones business
A: No, there are people whose business this is! We call them child protective services.

Then Beatrice fell
A: Gonna be honest. Putting her out of her misery was probably the best thing to happen to her.

Kinzo goes mad with the usual Kinzo noises
A: I gotta give that voice actor credit. Some of that didnt even sound like Japanese. It was just Madness.

Kumasawa talks about her role in raising Beatrice 2
A: And you just. LET this happen?
Kumasawa: You could see evidence of a love Beatrice didnt understand
Thing is, Kumasawa is saying this almost like its a joke. Like oh that Kinzo, raping his daughter! Silly guy!
A: Yall are SICK

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Mega Mana
04/20/20 2:32:15 PM
#215:


HIGURASHI EPISODE 4

I'll try and be a lot shorter with my posts. I don't want to take away from Umineko reads!!!
-All the mysteries are right here in this final chapter? Oh god, is Yasu going to be asking me to remember my sin?
-Okay, let's see... what is the mystery? Who killed Tomitake? Why is this happening every year on the same night? What do our characters have to do with it? Why isn't Keiichi worthy of a sprite?
-Episode 1 was all about learning about the town, meeting the club, and slowly growing more paranoid about the curse and past murders and Rena's crazy eyes. Satoshi's absence and disappearance a year ago was a big part. I think Rena and he had a thing going, but he also called Mion a year prior if past events in Episode 3 are still steady. He likely killed his aunt or covered it up. He also seemed to go crazy like Keiichi had... except the differences between Episodes 1 and 3 is that Keiichi was paranoid against his club (like Satoko in Episode 3?) and not against the people hurting Satoko. Mion&Co both described Keiichi as acting as Satoshi had the year prior (reclusive, paranoid, focused brutality, demon-possessed). Rena was also a complete sketchbook, and Mion seemed manipulative. There was a needle in the muffin, except it was likely hot sauce or something?
-Episode 2 is a blur except for Mion/Shion madness where Keiichi was kind of a dunce about it, confusing the two repeatedly and making assumptions all the time. I think Shion killed Mion and took her place towards the end out of jealousy. There was a lot less terribleness in Episode 3 because Shion was established somewhat so Keiichi didn't seem as confused between the two (like Battler growing used to the idea of Beatrice).
-The tea party also set Tomitake and Takano going to the ritual storehouse every festival night and dying/disappearing the next day. It seems as set as Kinzo in the furnace, something that almost always happens after the game has begun, something perpetually set in motion despite other things changing.
-So... should I focus on Satoshi and his relationships and what happened then? Tomitake/Takano festival night? Rika's role as the festival princess and how her family is as badly impacted as Satoko's? There's also the Sonozaki clan with all their power and influence and numbers. Three families, right. This episode also looks like it should focus on the fourth of the girls (Natsuhi/Rena - Rosa/Mion - Eva/Satoko - Kyrie/Rika).

Okay, okay, to the actual episode. KEEP IT SHORT!

-Quote to start us off, with the weird text under Bernkastel's name. Reminded me to go back and look at and look at the obituary screenshots I took. The bodies found before the disaster were in their own thing, with Ooishi and 'Katsuya Kumatani?' (Who?) as 'bad guys' that might be better with misunderstandings cleared up while Coach Irie was too good and needs to be 'a terrible criminal in the end.'?
-And for everyone else, may they all rest in peace... except for Satoko, Uncle Houjou, Teacher Chie, and.... 'Yukikazu Kameda' (Who?). All four are missing persons. Did Chie have something to do with disappearing Houjou then? Or did she get Satoko to safety? Who are Kumatani and Kameda?
-Who is Tatsuyoshi Kasai and why does he have a thing for Shion?
-Wait, is Frederica Bernkastel narrating these obituaries? Because the same font is under her name.
-Above and below the Higurashi Episode 3 title are Shion's comments (above) and Tomitake's (below). Does that mean something?
-Really cool commentary on all his Ryukishi07's support and team.

ALRIGHT TO EPISODE 4, FINALLY

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04/20/20 6:34:43 PM
#216:


-Hmm? Who is this? A middle-aged man with a suitcase going to Sapporo? ANGE?
-Oh, I'm meeting Kuraudo Ooishi, so I'm a friend of his? Former detective from Okinomiya? So is this the future? Again?
-We met seven years ago, in 1978. So it is now 1985, two years after the Great Hinamizawa Disaster. A kidnapping, a mysterious girl? Seven years ago would be... five years prior so... the Dam incident?
-My name is Mamoru Akasaka, and I have no idea who I am or how I am not Keiichi Maebara.

June 1978
-Ah, the Hinamizawa Dam protest was last month. What was that again? There was missing people and a person cut into pieces, iirc? It's been about two or three years since I played through Episode 1.
-Nigthengale, Skylark... this a sting? Protection? Security? Rabblerousing?
-Oh, a kidnapping? Toshiki Inugai-kun. Related to Minister Inugai?
-"There were no direct calls to or from this line." This sentence doesn't mean anything to me. It's just Ihad a hard time reading it after parsing all that split text in the obituaries that the sentence looks encoded to my eyes. Too many short spaces.
-Hidden identity speaking to the Minister. What does any of this have to do with Hinamizawa?
-They put something in the Minister's drawer?
-The boy's nametag? How and when?

-Yukie? Who's Yukie?!
-If it's a boy, 'Mamoru' and if a girl, 'Yuki' and if neither and both at the same time, we'll go to the Golden Land ahaha.wav
-I still have no idea what is happening. Okay, so Akasaka is going to name his kid Mamoru or Yuki, his wife is Yukie, and he has a father-in-law. He's also a police rookie in Tokyo during a kidnapping case. Am I playing Higurashi?
-Ohhh... Minister of Construction. Dam Project. I see....
-Wow, not just the grandson of the Minister, but also his senior staff's kids.
-I suddenly want to play 428 Shibuya Scramble again. If you haven't played, highly recommend it!
-Onigafuchi Defense Alliance
-Yup, the entire village prepares an alibi. It's exactly what Mion and Rena were doing for Keiichi after the festival, and he just didn't understand.
-Ooishi shows up! First sprite of the game. S File, part of the ODA / yakuza, for Sonozaki, which Ooishi is in charge of.
-Treasurer is O. Sonozaki. President - K. Kimiyoshi, mayor of Hinamizawa. Vice President - Furude, priest. Auditor - Makino. Liaison - Y. Kimiyoshi, PR Head - Tadayoshi Sonozaki. Yoshio head of Youth Dept.
-Mayor just a figurehead. Aware of Ooishi's car and would have hidden the barricade.
-Ooishi pointing out a house we've seen plenty of times on Keiichi's walk to school. Kimiyoshi house?
-Ah, blocked off by the Sonozaki family with heavy security.
-Lots of chess games with information. Ooishi got a lot of info about the kidnapping ,and now he's replying towards Onigafuchi Village origins and demons.

Interesting first chapter. Wanted to keep it short ,but it was much, much different than previous games.

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04/24/20 2:25:13 AM
#217:


Lion asked for clarification of what Kinzo has been doing
A: Oh honey
Lion: Grandfather
A: theres a word in there you dont need! Just father works!

Kinzo: Beatrice in heaven has given me a chance to atone
A: Dont assume that Beatrice is going to forgive you! Shes got all eternity and a baseball bat.

A: Lion, youre not gonna want to listen. You might want to go sit down somewhere.

Kinzo: I met Beatrice Beatrice Castiglioni across the sea
A: Jee, I wonder where.

Narration: Even young Kinzos voice sounded like Battler
(Literally Daisuke Ono voicing both)

Flashback of Kinzos past. The commander in charge of Kinzos little squad on Rokkenjima was named Yamamoto
A: You realize if they dont give this poor bastard a sprite, Im literally going to picture him as Yamamoto from Bleach, right?
K: I figured as much. I will, too!

Arria said she liked the song that played while theyre given the history lesson on Italy and the submarine coming to Rokkenjima. I know this song plays in Ep 8 when pirate-Erika is introduced, so thats all I can think of XD
Beatrice: <I speak English>
A: She says in Japanese

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04/28/20 9:27:36 PM
#218:


Arria laughs at Kinzo and Beatrice telling racist jokes to one another.

Beatrice: My friends call me Bice. You can do that, too!
A: This bitch has too many names. Excuse me, that Bice
K: Exactly what I was thinking. Bice is waaay to close to bitch!

Lion: So this is when you regained yourself
Will: In other words, when you cheated on your wife
*butt pinch*
A: Judging by where their sprites are, that looks a little bit more forward.
Lion: If you continue being rude, consider covering your butt
A; Never mind, he is still pinching his ass! God I hope theres some porn of these two

Kinzo talks about the underground cave-thingy where they stored the submarine and then retrieved the gold from it.
Arria got an idea that the epitaph was referring to this place. Since Kinzo has been saying stuff about how he was now alive she thought the hometown thing was referring to Rokkenjima, as this is his childhood, due to now being truly alive. She also thought the river could refer to the cave bisecting the cave, and sweetfish could refer to the torpedoes they had mentioned earlier in the flashback.
All pretty creative stuff, imo, although I know its not true. I still gave her credit for good thinking.

Theres talk about the Italians not being happy about unloading their gold.
A: This is gonna come to blows.

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05/02/20 12:45:28 AM
#219:


The lieutenants in both armies discuss the division of the gold with Kinzo and Beatrice acting as translators
A: This is fascinating.
A: Also, if each soldier got just one gold, youre set for life. Could you spend a single bar of gold in your life? Also, you know what I would do with a bar of gold? Melt it down and make it into jewelry, then hawk it off.

A: Oh hey, this also explains why theres a fucking dungeon underground on the island. It was a brig at one point.

A: Their plan to fight the Japanese in melee is a terrible idea. Japanese soldiers were hardcore with melee training.
We talk for a long while about which group was healthier and better trained. And then in the end
Granata!
A: *cackles* I dont need to know Italian to guess what just happened there.

A: Gee, and all it took was one mountain of gold to turn this into a blood bath. Who could have seen this coming?

Yamamoto says Italian women sure are scary, and since Arria has a thing for an Italian woman right now, she had a moment
A: Please stop feeding the troll. Thanks.

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05/05/20 10:52:43 AM
#220:


A bit later, Yamamoto specifically refers to Kinzo as a turncoat
K: I know what youre thinking
A: Again. Stop feeling the troll!
(Arria's favorite (or one of her favorite) Dresden Files books is called Turncoat. This is also what the 'scary Italian woman' thing above is about)

Yamamoto shoots Kinzo, grazes his ear. Then Beatrice steps on his crotch
A: I like her!

More Dresden Files references pile up, including Beatrice saying something about how Italian women are strong.

The game then hints that Kinzo will bribe the doctor on the next island
A: OOH, yeah, Nanjo!
K: or a walrus
A: They put a lab coat on a walrus and said good enough!

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05/09/20 11:02:14 PM
#221:


A: You could argue Beatrice 1 was killed by Kinzo because he made her pregnant. Or she was killed by Beatrice 2 when she was born.

Will: I wont say anything perverted, so keep your hands off my ass
A: *snort* Not a sentence I thought Id see in the context of Umineko
A: Also, just wanted you to know, this chapter has a lot more ass play than I was expecting
K: Like, I remembered it had some, but I didnt realize it was quite this much.
Lion then pinches Jessicas butt
A: See: Incest: A Family Game

George: If Jessica had been an only child, shed have been refined and quiet
Arria points and laughs.

Maria talks about how she doesnt have a dad, and that must mean Rosa has an immaculate conception
A: Its like they took all the wrong in this world and stuffed it in this episode.

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05/14/20 11:10:32 PM
#222:


02/28/2020

We left off with Will talking to witch-Maria about her back story. She says she read the bible and decided she was a witch based on what she read there
A: I like how Maria learned all this shit from the bible and decided to go WITCH. Like, she could have been a right-wing MAGA crazy bitch instead. No, she went full witchcraft! I approve! God damn it, I never thought I would approve of Maria. Popcorn Fairy, RIP, you win.

Beatrice mentions milk tea
A: Which I had recently, and it is delicious. I approve of Beatrices tastes as well.

A: One day Im going to get mad at work and when someone asks for my name, Ill reply with Beatrice (pronounce the Italian way). Because all rattlesnakes have a warning. THAT is your warning. When I a channel my inner mad Italian woman, I will be Beatrice.

Will asks Maria what time of year her meeting with Beatrice was because of Marias candy melting partially when she got home
A: Watch it be August

The song that plays in this scene sounds like something out of a masquerade ball, which Arria points out
A: I can see dancers in fancy outfits, whispering secrets, exchanging partners, talking with their eyes. I like it!
I dont know what the song is. Ill have to find it later.

The game talks about the minimum number of people to create a world is two. Now change world to Beatrice. the minimum number of people to create a Beatrice is two. One can create her, but that one needs another person to nurture it.
A: Knowing what I know about Beatrice being Shannon, Kanon, Sayo this is really sad. She just wants someone to acknowledge her.

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05/19/20 10:59:14 AM
#223:


Theres a line about trying to reason out what Beatrice is and its confusing even to us. Arria has a look of wtf am I reading and then the next scene is just how do you like that reasoning, Bernkastel? And then an audience cheering. Arria laughed.
Will says Great, thanks a bunch.
A: I imagine that in the most flat, sarcastic tone ever.

In the scene with George and Jessica talking about Lion, George says Lion was the head of the badminton team
A: Yeah, badminton checks out.

Will says he like Jessicas tsurupettan song lol

The game says furniture wants to become Human so they can **** and Arria goes straight to love instead of fuck. I mean, shes not wrong, but itd be more Arria-esque to go straight to fucking lol.

Jessica: Thinking about it now, this whole situation is a little crazy
A: Everything about this game is crazy, dear

Maria expressed her joy at being back on the island and wanting to learn a new spell from Beatrice. They mention Kinzo.
A: I wonder why Kinzo didnt like Maria. Seems like he would be happy Maria likes Beatrice so much.

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Mega Mana
05/19/20 11:04:45 AM
#224:


Lol, I just checked this topic ten minutes ago, XD

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05/20/20 5:22:19 PM
#225:


Last time on Higurashi 4, I remember being somebody else and going to Hinamizawa... at some point in time? Glad I left notes in someone else's topic! (Yours, =P). Mamoru Akasaka, expecting a child, there five years before Keiichi's story, dam project protests under way, lots of lore about the families of the town. Okay, let's do this? Oh yeah, and the PM's kid was kidnapped and I'm sent here to see if the ODA had anything to do with it.

  • North Wind and Sun. Oh, Ryukishi07.
  • Ukita Waterworks - New Place. Wonder if that's around the garbage site with Colonel Sanders.
  • A camera... and a knapsack. To look completely... casual... O_O
  • Is Akasaka.... Tomitake?!?! Is that why we're here? He'd been going to Hinamizawa the past few years, but wait, didn't he not come back here, or see Ooishi at the least, in seven years? Or did Tomitake take up Akasaka's slack in coming years after whatever happens happens.
  • And there it is. The passengers staring at him from the bus. Wonderful. Thank you creepy-ass town.
  • Ha! He was directed to get off there. Yup, he's intentionally been marked by being too trusting.
  • Awww, there's a sleeping girl in there? But who? Who?
  • "Whether we could tell if they were a boy or a girl was, in the end, dependent on whether or not we could get an image of their genitalia." ...Yep. I am definitely thinking more about Umineko than Higurashi when I play this game.
  • "MEEP" Yay Rika! XD, 'this girl was way better at interrogating someone than Ooishi', XD
  • "Tomitake Mk II" Okay, there goes those earlier theories!
  • This fatherhood gaze is heartwarming. Don't crush me later, game.
  • Makino: Farmer mayor assigned to accompany Akasaka (and Rika). Auditor of ODA?
  • Ugh, Akasaka. I know you're happy to be gushing about our wife ready to give birth, but, uh, you're touring a random ass village instead of being with your pregnant wife. Why? Isn't that suspicious? *beat* Oh good, Makino asked that right away.
  • Rika being cute, Rika being cute, Akasaka sharing an opinion, Rika being cute, Akasaka explains thinking she's to oyoung to understand, and Rika gets this new face where she's all business.
  • Kiichirou Kimiyoshi - Mayor of Hinamizawa and president of ODA
  • Why doesn't the Mayor get a portrait, but the teacher at the school did?
  • 'It's already been decided?'?
  • Geez, serious-faced five-year-old Rika is intimidating. "Go back to Tokyo." Rika's pulling Akasaka back before he crosses the street...
  • Geezus, who is this kid???
  • Maybe she was possessed, but she was warning Akasaka. Why? And now she's a small cute little Rika-chan again. I need to think. Hmm... 'It is decided.' 'Go back to Tokyo.' Warnings. Is there foreknowledge? The Rika that appeared... didn't look sinister so much as... done. Tired. Forlorn. WEll ,the smile was sinister, but she was also described as a stray cat earlier by Akasaka... is there some tie here to FredeRIKA Bernkastel? If... if Akasaka leaves to go back to Tokyo, instead of staying, would things change? If the Dam Project ends because it is decided that that happens, what would change? Does... oooh. I really need to pay more attention (helps that the last time I played was a month ago)
  • Okay, so, if Akasaka goes back, would that prevent some of the deaths that occur? I forget who is first and why, but didn't Rika's parents get demoned away for... no it was Satoko's for collaborating against the project. If Akasaka leaves, does that save Satoko's parents? Or Rika's? Or both? Or the dam people and their hacked up limbs? What does Akasaka's continued presence do?
  • TIPS: Whoa, there is a kidnapping and it's involved with the Dam Project? Wow! I'm tempted not to say it's the same one Akasaka is looking into, but...
  • Predetermined fate??? Wait, I was thinking that was Keiichi's kitchen, but maybe this is Bernkastel?! Past data determining events to come, but predetermination is so boring and suffocating. If only things were different than expected? Well, this doesn't sound like the prelude to Danganronpa at all!
  • Narrator (Bern?) hoping for a rain cloud (bad times, chaos, change) because he/she's tired of clear skies (order, established story, sameness).
  • Oryou Sonozaki. A heavy millstone that needs lots of people to turn it for it to work and grind things to a pulp. The town working together to stop the dam, in unison carrying out a kidnapping? Or the dam project being stopped would be very hard to start up again. Mion and Oryou smiling about Irie wondering idly whether the project could in fact be stopped.
Very interesting episode...

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05/22/20 12:58:52 PM
#226:


HIGURASHI 4 TAKEOVER CONTINUES

  • Kanou-sama is his check-in guy. Part of me is curious whether that's actually someone back in Tokyo or someone with really good connections and understanding with the ODA getting him to spill.
  • Interesting note. The operator asked to connect Kanou first, but directly connected Ooishi. Probably nothing but Ooishi being locally known.
  • The mahjong parlor we've seen in TIPS before! Did not expect games club with Aka and Ooi.
  • Who's the new narrator? It's not Akasaka, and not Ooishi. Informant, or middle aged man? There's a Sato amongst them. Or maybe we are Ooishi. I don't understand Mahjong (or Bridge) at all, but I like how whenever a main character is actually being competent, we switch focus away from them.
  • Old man = Dam Foreman; can't stand Sonozaki's daughter (Mion? Shion?) - Infor Man(t) = Sato
  • Oryou Sonozaki = Empress, head of Sonozaki clan and decision-maker. Mion worthy to succeed Oryou. Mayor Kiichirou Kimiyoshi and his family attending, Rika's priest father and mother and her attending. The Sonozakis attending were like a giant snake coiled about the room.
  • Mion with some strong authority. Her father married into the family and has Shishibone under underground control. Sato saying that the Sonozaki's know about the kidnapping is huge news.
  • They know about a Public Safety person sent all the way from Tokyo?! Wait, so, did this meeting happen yesterday? Is this the Rika warning Akasaka, because she was in that meeting and already knows? Is that why they were fishing for information, especially if he was from Tokyo? Yup, yesterday. So Rika was a trap laid for Akasaka at the dropoff point, and the bus likely had more than a few people on watch for him.
  • ...Holy ****, a choice? In one of these games?! Oh, oh no. Red or blue?!? The other box will disappear and I won't get to see it. Ahhhh~ The red truth it is! That was a really good, introspective tip on the power and finality of choice-making. Wish I made better decisions in life, and didn't choose 'open neither box' so often.
  • Mion calling her father to take out the grandson or to release?

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05/24/20 12:11:24 PM
#227:


Guh, Higurashi again already?

  • No way this wallet with the same first name and last initial would be the missing grandson's wallet. And that picture only barely resembles the missing kid. And the handwritten note with the same handwriting as the victim stating that he loves his grandfather who is the minister of construction must be talking about a different minister of construction in in Kyoto or something, not Tokyo! Foolish fools.
  • Ha, the hammer brought down by a dental card. Wow, the wallet was left there six or seven days ago. Interesting.
  • Kid's pretty smart. If this weren't going to end up badly, I'd say this kid is pullig off a miracle with the acting like he can't hear them, putting together all the information and the best plans to escape, and then the feigned illness. Of course, this is where Irie will come in, isn't it?
  • Huh. It's very hard for a civilian to obtain a gun in Japan. Well, damn, I should've seen that before. Mion has a gun holstered constantly. That should've been more significant and apparent to me (or to Keiichi?).
  • Whoa, there's Rika at the construction protest. And we donm't know what she said... Tip? Tip please?
  • I also feel something is off. Finding the wallet in a thicket along this long road around the same time the kidnappers passed through.
  • Here comes Irie! With or without the grandson, hm?
  • Rock to the head!!! Akasaka, no!
  • Ooishi to the rescue! I feel like I'm watching the season one finale of True Detective.
  • Nice, they saved the boy, both are still alive, no one died... what will go wrong?

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05/24/20 11:03:16 PM
#228:


Maria gets creepy with Jessica after Jessica talks about Maria going off into the forest to chant spells alone
A: She does creepy and terrifying well.

The game lampshades the fact that there are a lot of clues thrown out in the early chapters. It flashes back to a scene of Kanon talking to Jessica about wanting to be his true self
A: I just remembered, wasnt there a scene in Ep 1 or something where Battler says Wow Shannon, you didnt have breasts last time I saw you. You really grew! Like, this whole game is one big wink wink nudge nudge. If I rewatch this shit, Im going to slap myself every time a hint is thrown out, and Im gonna be slapping myself a lot.

Jessica goes through her thing about entering the VIP room. its pretty creepy, gotta admit. I think Arria was expecting a jump scare when Jessica turned the lights on. She sorta cringed just before it happened.

This scene is more unnerving than I remember lol.

Jessica wonders if nighttime really hinders humans that much, when the lights go out
A; We are sight predators, so yes.

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05/28/20 10:55:17 AM
#229:


05/22/2020

Will confuses Jessica with family seats since this Jessica has some memories of timelines with and without Lion.

At one point, Lions sprite edges closer to Will.
A: When that happens, block. Like yes, youre going to be walking around with your hands on your ass.

Will talks with Lion about his memories which havent been aligning with everyone elses
A; Just gonna throw this out. If you go to a group of people and say tell me about Beatrice and everyone tells you the same one except for the guy going Who?, I think you found your culprit!

Lion says he doesnt understand what Will is talking about when he mentioned Maria wanted to meet Beatrice, but Ill just nod and go along with it.
A: Just smile and grin, smile and grin.

Arria noticed the stained glass in the chapel shows three figures between one-winged eagles. A blue and a red haired person, with the yellow haired on in the middle. Very Beatrice-esque. The blue and red people could also represent Kanon and Shannon. Above them is a red world and a blue world circling a cross.
A: Could it be fantasy and mystery, and in the middle is truth or belief?

Will finally says Lion is one of the culprits, the one who never created Beatrice.
A: This would be a real mind fuck if I didnt already know.

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05/30/20 10:21:24 PM
#230:


Will and Lion discuss why Kinzo chose Lion as his successor rather than Krauss
Lion: How am I supposed to know the Heads desires?
A: There is only one thing Kinzo desires. BEATORICHE!

Bern and Will talk about how Lion is the disappearing/dead cat in the cat box.
A: The name is appropriate. All lions dont think theyre cats, until you see one sitting in a box.

A: This reminds me of the line from Game of Thrones where when a Targaryen is born, they flip a coin whether theyre be a genius or insane. Well, I think the Ushiromiyas have the same coin.

When Will asks if Lion is a girl or boy, he gets a sassy stance and says what do I look like to you? Arria took a picture of the scene.
A; Im using this as a reaction from now on

Will: Ill smack people no matter which gender they are
Lion: And Ill pinch rude people, no matter which
A: You two really are a match made in hell.

Bern asks Will to reveal who did it. She imitates Beatrices voice from the whaaat aaam I?
A: Is it wrong I can picture Bern as a cat here with her head tilted as she says daaareee?

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Mega Mana
05/30/20 11:09:32 PM
#231:


Eerieka posted...
Bern and Will talk about how Lion is the disappearing/dead cat in the cat box.
A: The name is appropriate. All lions dont think theyre cats, until you see one sitting in a box.

XD

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06/05/20 11:15:47 PM
#232:


Were viewing this scene from Sayos point of view, including the screen shaking when she shakes her head.

We get to the stage and meet Clairvaux of Bernard. Arria is immediately analyzing her appearance. Shes found pieces of Shannon, Beatrice, and the Love Demons. Not much Kanon. She notes she does not have the one-winged eagle. Arria opens the profile where it says she has no personality. Ah! Theres Kanon!

We get into the book portion of the story. The stake maids are here.
Arria just laughs when she sees meido Lucifer.
A: And of course, in Sayos imagination, the maids who bossed over her became the furniture/slaves she used to kill other people.

A: Imagine a timeline where Sayo was a real screw-up. Like, smoking week in an alley. You think Genji could pull strings hard enough to get Sayo here in that case?
She later learns Sayo is like 6 or 7 here
A: Okay, a little weird for someone that young to be smoking weed in the alley, but were going to go with it.

Then Shannon appears
A: Am I the only one bothered theyre using this sprite for a child? I mean *motions at boobs*
K: No, no! Youre not looking at the child. Were looking through the childs eyes. This is Shannon, Sayos concept of the perfect maid.
A: Ah. Her Arria. I see why, again, you asked me so much about Arria before we started reading this damn novel.

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06/09/20 11:05:10 AM
#233:


A: This is why we dont yeet children off a cliff. Sometimes they hit their head. Sometimes they hallucinate imaginary friends.

A: Ryukishi must have the DSM-V on his desk. Like, every time he needs a new character trait *flips through pages*
K: First, you have made this exact joke before. Second, I think I heard rumors or maybe suspicion that Ryukishi is a counselor in his real life.
A: I believe it. Like, Maria is textbook autism. He either did a lot of research or he is around it personally.

A: There is a lot to unpack in this series. Like, every time you think youre done, whoops, we forgot to unpack the toiletries!

Krauss: We thought it was weird for a servant to be so young. We asked Father about it
Demon: And what did Kinzo say?
Other Demon: I think we both know what Kinzo said.
Arria: BEATORICHE?
Demons: BEATORICHE!
Arria laughs out loud. Shit, that might be the first time this game caught me so off guard in a way that didnt involve me blue screening.

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06/14/20 6:25:13 AM
#234:


We are give the name Yasu for the first time. Ive sorta taken to referring to Sayo as just Sayo, so I probably wont use the name Yasu as often.

Shannon: Why did I end up here?
A: Well, when a man loves his daughter very much oh god, thats too far, even for me. Wow, even my dog looks like hes judging me for that.

Shannon talking to young Sayo is very nave and full of hope.
A: This is like the Arria I invented in middle school. Shes not the Arria I am now. This is like not my Shannon.
K: Right, This is a very young version of Shannon. As Sayo grows up, shell change her Shannon, as well as invent new imaginary friends.

Sayo often says shes frail and tired a lot
A: Oooh, because youre a child of incest

The Love Demons bring Genji onto the stage. Furfur literally looks like her hand is in Genji.
A: I know I make hand-puppet jokes a lot, but I cant see it any other way right here.

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Mega Mana
06/15/20 10:59:47 AM
#235:


higurashi continues

  • He lives! Irie's taking care of him! All is well!
  • Ooishi giving him a bit of spending money? Well, that's nice of him, but didn't he win all of their money at mahjong night? =P
  • There we go. Incentive to play Mahjong again, XD
  • Severed phones? Oh this is not good. Ooishi, this man needs an escort, NOW
  • Creepy Rika time.
  • God, if there weren't so much unease and tension, this back-and-forth would be super adorkable.
  • ...Watanagashi...
  • Wow, the festival picks up steam after the murders happen? interesting note. Thanks psychic Rika.
  • So saving the grandchild as Akasaka did, instead of either possible amicable release or death of the kidnapped kid... results in the Hinamizawa murders? Rika dies in the Keiichi year? Foreman, Satoko's parents, Rika's parents, Satoko's aunt, ???.
  • I just want to hug Rika ;_; Rika knows all this is to come.
---next chapter, 1985 ---

  • Ahhh, robed Ooishi go away!
  • Memorial service? Did something happen to his wife? His child?
  • Nooo....
  • He says had he just gone home, things would be different. I posit that had he made a phone call, she'd be okay? Or did Rika-chan save her from being killed in aother way. The first two victims of Watanagashi... the wife killed, the baby disappeared??? And the baby is BEATORIIICHE
  • Oh. Rika gave him... one last night of hope. Okay. Time travel is not to be questioned, things are ordained.... but what if- *stops, this fragment is as it is, even if Rika could've told him some Signs-level propethic words like 'Swing away' and prevented Aka's injury from being all that bad so he could've calle din the afternoon, huh???*
  • These are... the murders of the third game? Or do these happen every game?
  • Discover the truth - KOMA.


  • "Hey, Ooishi. You've been in a lot of this episode. Better watch out!" *destroyed by Satoko and Mion*
  • Is Rika a witch? Shion denies magic, Rena believes it's a possibility, SIGN THE CONTRACT BATTLER
  • Shion pretends to help Satoko only to whisk away all the main characters.
  • Noble Irie, undone by maid Satoko... shameful!
  • There's somebody who resents Shion for appearing? How is turning off the li... liiii..... oh my god... XD XD XD Keiichi only appears if the lights are turned off because he doesn't have a sprite, WTF this is amazing.
  • The dawn of perverted and cutesy Higurashi? Where Rena wants in? Sounds like two certain ladies reading through Umineko thinking lewdly about Battler/Beatrice innuendos and hot butler tea time... ^_~
  • Oh, that was Irie speaking, not Rena, to go with Keiichi. My bad. It's dark, and excited Irie and excited Rena sound kind of the same.
  • MINISKIRT NURSE OUTFIT Hauuuu~ ...I also thought Takano was Irie for a moment. So... IUrie in the miniskirt nurse. My bad there too. So many mistakes!
  • XD XD XD, Tommy and Kuraudo arrive! They can be at the afterparty with the lights off too! Oh my god, this is the best. Now the principal and Akasaka joining with Keii- Demon Lord K.
  • Chie has swords? But Chie uses her fists and her feet in battle, kicking enemies out of fights entirely!
  • The church? The Black something? The Seventh Hour? What is happeniiiing?~!
  • And a careful warning that the Answer arcs begin next, and if we want to play the game to its fullest, we should go wild with our theories now before things begin to narrow down. THE MIDPOINT IS REACHED!!!


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06/15/20 11:43:06 AM
#236:


So, how is Higurashi played? Umineko has a few very set foundations embedded from the start:

  1. Who is the killer and how do they accomplish their murders?
  2. Can you prove that all the murders were done by humans and successfully deny witches?
  3. Who is Beatrice?
  4. Most importantly, why is this happening? What is the motive?
  5. Is there a way to save everyone?
There are many, many other mysteries dancing about throughout as well like: what's up with Maria? Where is the gold? How do you solve the epitaph? Who wrote the letters? What happened to Kinzo? Does Kumasawa regularly feed the mustached walrus mackerel? All the parents need a lot of money and they need it RIGHT NOW, but can they see why kids love cinnamon toast crunch? Why can't George and Shannon just fall in love together without spoiling Jessica/Kanon and Battler/Beatrice? Who is Maria's father? Why is Krauss arguably the least relevant main character to the story aside from Gohda? What happened to the rose (spoiler: Gohda used it in his dinner! I solved that the first time I played and people commended me for it! Then I was endlessly ridiculed for never figuring out what the **** happened in episode 3)? Etc. etc.

If Higurashi is anything like Umineko, then it is solvable right now with all the clues given. Even though Shkanontrice felt impossible to me even long after Episode 7 spelling it out, in retrospect... it was... plausible? It makes more tangible sense after playing Higurashi so far, with twins and mistaken identities and "Oh you think Mion and Shion are one person? Guess what' they're two people! Enjoy the sequel game where we reverse this and turn who you thought were two people into one!"

What is the mystery of Higurashi then?

  1. What is Oyashiro-sama's curse and why do two people die/disappear every year?
  2. What exactly happens in 1983?
  3. Who is the killer and what is their motive?
  4. Every scenario is different, but what are the core elements consistent to all of them?
  5. Is there a way to save everyone?
The thing hammered in during the afterparties is what remained the same? Tomitake and Takano were always the two victims of Watanagashi; all the murders in previous years happened as they did; every character is the same in every game; Tomitake always dies in the same way at the same time in the same location; Keiichi suffers punishment games.

The core is Tomitake then, isn't it? He's an ancillary character, gut an important lynchpin to the events surrounding everything. No matter if Satoko's having a miserable home like, Shion and Mion are fighting for control of their existence and perception as their own person, or Rena's axe crazy and spiking paranoid Keiichi's riceballs with hot sauce needles, Tomitake always dies clawing out his throat in the woods and Takano is always missing/dead. But we follow the Gaming Club. Why?

Keiichi is a newcomer with fresh eyes on the village. He is easily manipulated into thinking the worst, horrible at healthy communication, but is loyal, hopeful, and takes actions he thinks are necessary. He is the faceless protagonist though probably not a detective. His decisions cause wide ranging ripples to affect the others, but aside from a simple interaction with Tomitake/Takano or two, and outside of episode 2 where he sneaks with them into the storeroom, those two scenarios seem to have nothing much to do with each other. Do we only use Keiichi-kun in these scenarios to establish the pattern of events and timelines leading up to Tomitake's death? By showing how much Keiichi can affect or be affected by things happening, does his minimal but significant enough interactions with the photographer actually highlight that part of the story?

Okay, then who is Tomitake? He's a photographer who regularly comes this time of year to do birdwatching. Established in Akasaka's.... hmm.

Is Rika the only one who mentions Tomitake in episode four?

If Rika is established as knowing what's to come, my previous thought of Tomitake being around since before Akasaka arrived in 1978 no longer holds up. Akasaka is a birdwatcher "just like Tomitake," but if this is an offhand comment by someone with foreknowledge... Tomitake may not have shown up yet. He might've been sent after Akasaka to fill the same role as badge-hiding observer. Tomitake an undercover cop? He is there to investigate the murders before they happen and who may be responsible? He talks with Keiichi in game one warning him of the town, and being the harbinger by bringing up the past murders and the village's involvement in the dismemberment of the dam workers. He is also using the distraction of Watanagashi to break into the shrine and see the ritual implements, maybe gather information on how murders/disappearanceswere carried out. And he always dies shortly after tearing at his own throat. Keiichi suffers a similar affect in game one, going crazy paranoid and looking to tear out his own throat if not for needing to kill everyone who's out to get him.

And doesn't Shion/Mion commit a similar suicide after the events of episode two?

Also, Satoshi likely murders his aunt to protect Satoko before disappearing himself. And in 1 and 3, characters comment on how much like Satoshi Keiichi is getting: bat-wielding paranoid in 1, vengeful protector of Satoko in 3.

Why does Irie commit suicide before the explosion in 3? What happened to Satoko's uncle? Why did Satoko try to kill Keiichi? What happened to Rika? Why does Rena short-circuit and become terrifying? How much is Mion involved in the family business in the first three games? Why does Chie have a sprite but others don't?

I've fried my brain enough for now.

Kira, may I ask if you have any subtle hints or directions you think I should take, ala Rika trying to help Akasaka help herself?

And should I go back and play the first four games again to try and figure things out on my own before moving onto the Answer arcs?

....Also, why did I just notice your name is an anagram of Rika, Kira? Have you been the Witch of Miracles this entire time??? And are you still a vampire hunter at night, or have you and Arria established new scenarios now that it's been a few months together?

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Eerieka
06/17/20 9:12:04 PM
#237:


Interesting write ups, Mega Mana. My experience with Higurashi was only watching the anime and not realizing it was a mystery to be solved. I just kicked back and watched it unfold. I feel like you could keep going. You probably know enough to solve some of the mysteries on your own. I don't remember some of the smaller mysteries myself; it's been a hot minute since I watched the anime and I don't even remember if some of those points were made in the anime.

My name being an anagram of Rika is... err... coincidental, since I picked the name "Kira" as my internet/alternate persona name before I ever watched Higurashi lol (and Death Note for that matter, but it did sorta cement my use of that name). But it's a coincidence I play up, on occasion, especially when you consider my real name.

Arria and I are still vampire hunters some night. Sometimes we are the witches who rule the blood bank's night. xD

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06/22/20 10:13:11 PM
#238:


bump

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06/26/20 10:44:39 PM
#239:


Clair: Kinzo grieved, but it was more of madness than sorrow
A: that is an apt description of him.

A: This game is enough to make a therapist need therapy. Like, just a lot to unpack. Im less thinking Ryukishi wrote this while at a desk and more that he wrote it in his blood in his cell when he managed to get his arms out of the straight jacket.

Nanjo and Genji basically defends Kinzos horrible life choices.
A: Just gonna throw this out there, but the proper reaction to being told by a man that hes starting to see his daughter less like a daughter and more like her mother is not to condone that! Its to pull out a gun and shoot the fucker!

Bern asks if they want her to look for a Fragment where Lion is accepted AND Kinzo commits the same sin again.
Arria: NO! (said very loudly). She then spends a few minutes looking for the right gif. Its of an MLP pony running backwards and NOPE NOPE NOPE all on the bottom of the gif.

Lion: Who would want to see that!?
Will: Its just the kind of demon she is
A: In other words, an average housecat.

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07/02/20 11:23:06 AM
#240:


Were now in the chapter where Sayo lost a tiny broom, and she talks about how things go missing. Arria catches on pretty quickly: Gaap

They talk about ghost stories, and how many work places have them. Arria and I talk about how if our work place had a ghost story, that would be me. *I* am the ghost/witch who haunts the blood bank.

The other maids have Sayo look for the brush in the creepy chapel and then leave.
A: I feel like this is just bullying?

A: Is this why Gaap is dressed like a whore? Like, weve seen her put the other stake-maids in whore-like outfits. If this is just the maids fucking with her, its just those whores
A: Does this also mean Gaap represents his lost balls?
I give Arria a look of wtf and shame on you
A: *laughs* That was horrible.

Sayo says some religious stuff taught to her by the director of the Fukuin House. Stuff like how you cant see God with your eyes but you have to use your heart.
A: This is the best line about describing religion Ive ever seen.

Kumasawa shows Sayo her trick about returning objects to their home. Its so damn cute. I showed Arria a comic that went with it.

Gaap mentions Sanon again, which made Arria think she mightve been referring to Shannon.
K: No, its Satan.
A: OH!
K: And my headcanon is that this is why Shannon had to go with sha instead of sa, because there was already a Sanon working there.

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07/07/20 10:27:09 PM
#241:


On stage, they discuss how Sayo would borrow mystery novels from the school library and talk to Kumasawa about them whod always know the answer, but would just smile and nod to Sayos theories
A: This sums up our entire friendship for the last three years.

And then Gaap talks about And Then There Were None, which Arria plans to read very soon and is worried about getting even a little bit spoiled so were stopping here for tonight. xD

Day ???
5/31/2020

Today I asked Arria if she read And Then There Were None, which she hadnt yet, it was only last week when we last played Umineko. But she said shes made her peace with whatever Umineko throws at her regarding potential spoilers
The first line we get to is Shannon about to spoil the story to Sayo, and Sayo tells her not to do it.
K: Dont you just hate it when you imaginary friends spoil books for you

The rest of this scene is a lot of discussion about how Sayo learned to love mystery novels.
A: I feel like this is Ryukishi elbowing us and saying You made it this far into my bullshit, you must like mystery novels too, mikos!

When do the maids graduate from Rokkenjima?
Game: That trapped feeling and money sat on opposite sides of the scale to determine graduation
A: I feel called out right now!

The older maids leave, but Shannon remains
A: Thats a nice nod to how shes imaginary, in case anyone wasnt sure yet

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07/13/20 10:12:09 PM
#242:


A: So Sayo started when she was 6, so now shes about 9 right?
K: there was some shenanigans with ages. Sayo might have started when she was 9 and is now 12, but still looks young.
A: Still, if I were a 16 year old and my senpai was a 9 year old, I would be pissed. Like, imagine going to work and you have to take orders from a pre-pubescent child. Not happening!

A: Imagine if on your first day at work in the ER, someone told you dont leave your name badge laying around. The witch will take it.
I told her how I legitimately thought about how funny it would be to do that at the blood bank we work at.
A: Give me a few years. I might help you with that.

Meido-Beelzebub and Asmodeus are now on stage and talking about how they were afraid of the witch or Sayo pulling pranks.
A: I like the dichotomy here with the theatre and stage. Like, we see what theyre really thinking in a very theatrical way.

The two maids argue about a missing key
A: Did Sayo level up their pick-pocketing skill? And slight of hand?

Sayo mentally argues with Gaap about not stealing maid-Beelzebubs key, but Gaap wins over and Sayo becomes Gaap/Gaap becomes Sayo
A: Talk about bleed out. When you take on characteristics of your characters. Sometimes with a Psychology PhD should read Umineko. Thats a Lets Play I would read/watch.

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07/19/20 11:36:56 PM
#243:


bump

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07/25/20 1:00:30 PM
#244:


A: Is Sayo actually seeing things? Is she delusional?
K: I dont believe so. I think this is just showing Sayos turning point from good maid to fuck you for leaving your keys. Now you get punished.
Our discussion gets a little deeper, and I mention how this is also somewhat Uminekos goal. Is Sayo delusional or it this just symbolic? Its up to us, the reader, to decide. I told Arria that while I perceive this scene as symbolic of Sayos turning point, she can interpret it either way. This then went into a long rant about how she did almost this exact thing with keys at a place she used to work.

Sayo talks about how she decided Beatrices minions are golden butterflies
A: Weve been putting the cart before the horse. We thought the spider webs were used because Beatrice used butterflies. Actually Beatrices butterflies are because Sayo needed Beatrices minions to be something weak to spiders.

Sayo says she wants to become a witch. Shannon is surprised and perplexed
A: If this werent happening in Sayos head, this would be such a confusing conversation.
A: Also power. Thats all Sayo wants.
A: Another point to Shannon not being real. She doesnt have the anti-magic toxin.

Sayo creates the Clair-witch while Gaap is relegated to being another witch without a name
A: This really does sound like a small child playing make-believe.

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07/29/20 11:07:54 AM
#245:


Sayo makes a point about how Shannon is going to have a room all to herself.
A: This is also a way of making sure Sayo never figures out what people look like beneath their clothes.

A: So when does this bitch sleep? If shes Shannon by day and Beatrice at night? Actually, that explains a few things. Id probably dress in a Victorian dress and cackle in a hurricane if I went without sleep for a few years.

We see Shannon working with Genji and Natsuhi around. Natsuhi comments that she is worried about Eva complaining about the chandelier not being clean
A: I love how Eva is Natsuhis mortal enemy here. Like, her gauge for is the room clean enough? is will that bitch complain?

Game: Natsuhi was more high-strung and stressed than usual.
A: I know that feel, bro. Thats me at every Thanksgiving and Christmas!

Clairtrice and Shannon have an elegant tea party
A: Its sad. The servant who is used to serving at tea parties, but had never eaten or drank at one. This is the sort of fantasy she would have.

Clairtrice goes wild with the roses lol
A: I can appreciate Sayos dedication to an aesthetic.

Shannon mentions how this feels like a Sunday where I am just wrapped in my blanket in bed.
A: I almost missed that throwaway line. This is exactly what is happening, isnt it?
K: Most likely. This was almost exactly how she phrased it in Ep 4 when she was in the prison.

Clairtrice mentions Shannon going back to a colorless world where shes worked to the bone
A: Theres a darker take on this. Shannon contemplating suicide.
Clair: This place is paradise. Eternal.
A: Youre not helping the commit suicide to escape eternal drudgery as a servant angle.

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08/03/20 10:30:33 PM
#246:


Shannon has to deny Clairs request to stay in the Golden Land 3 times, then Clair accepts.
A: Thats interesting. Similar thing to fae in other stories including The Dresden Files. Once you say no three times, they are bound to it.

Clair: Is there something more fun in the world of humans?
A: There is! Its called sex. I know thats not really applicable to this character, but still it *is* an answer!

Back in time to a previous family conference. We see the background where the portrait will be
A: I like how theres no portrait there, but there is an oddly specific wooden panel with curtains framing it.

They mention how Shannon was one of the group
A: If I were Natsuhi, I would want a servant getting friendly with Jessica so that servant could be my spy.

Aaand our city just got put on curfew for the riots so were gonna barricade Arrias house and relax a bit.

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08/08/20 11:36:19 AM
#247:


Bump. That was all we had, but I'll see Arria next week ^_^

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08/12/20 10:55:08 AM
#248:


Playing some more on Saturday! Hopefully! We do have some other projects to do...

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08/17/20 9:49:02 PM
#249:


8/15/29

Its been a while since we played! We open up with Far playing, though it quickly switches to a happier song lol.

We go into a flashback of Battler talking about Shannons breasts and George talking about how Shannon has plenty of womanly charm.
A: This sure is a lot darker now that I know what she went through!

Shannon talked about how she first heard the cousins talking about girls and boys, and Battler says she was the most interested and absorbed
A: Because this was the first time she was like waaaait wtf is going on with me?

Then Shannon and Battler found out the other reads mystery novels and whee~ friendship~

Shannon and Battler talk about why the why dunnit is so important. Its the heart of the story. Arria agrees with that sentiment.

Shannon said she hates clocks because she wants to keep talking to Battler, but Arria jumped on that lol
A: Me too! And only because of this fucking game! I bet you hate clocks because of the same one I hate. The one that ticks during the tense moments

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08/21/20 10:38:24 PM
#250:


A: I wonder what would have happened if Battler had kept coming to the island, and at some point got Shannon naked would he just think so thats what you look like. Alright then.

Lion is freaking out about finding out that he is a murderer in another timeline.

Wills line Im not the main character in this story. You are. reminded Arria of the movie Sucker Punch, which I only know about because she has referenced it before while playing Umineko lol.

Will says Beatrices misfortune occurred when she solved the epitaphs riddle.
A: Here we go, kids! The moment weve all been waiting for!

We flashback to Rudolf telling Krauss and Natsuhi about Battler leaving, and Natsuhi says she sympathizes with Battler.
A: Good job, Natsuhi! Long time since Ive been able to say that!

A: If they only had polyamory, this wouldnt be a problem! Like, the amount of stupidity and toxic monogamy it takes to get to this point is just. sad. And Battler is actually Kyries son, after all, so this is even extra fucked!

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