Board 8 > Umineko readthrough part 4 by Arria (blind) and Kira (2nd reading) SPOILERS OKAY

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Popcorn_Fairy
03/31/19 10:50:06 PM
#51:


Eerieka posted...
A: Also, Kyrie was the one to teach us the critical thinking skills required for this game. It would be a bit odd for the culprit to do that.


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Eerieka
04/02/19 10:51:36 AM
#52:


A: Ooh, what if ASUMU tried to kill Kyrie? I mean, theres no way in hell Kyrie would lose that fight, but if Kyrie was heavily pregnant at that time. Okay, Asumu finds out Kyrie is pregnant a second time with her husbands child, wigs out, attacks her. Battler tries to stop them. Somehow Asumu accidentally dies trip and hit her head on the side of the desk, fall out of a window, or fall over a fire poker and land face-first in the flames, slitting her throat on a broken fish tank, the list goes on and then Battler and Kyrie look at each other like what do? and they decide to just stay quite about the whole thing. Rudolf decides to marry Kyrie now that his wife is dead and Battler like hey, I like her and all, but yeah no, fuck you dad and peaces out, but the truth is Battler has a hard time keeping the secret and runs to his grandparents house so he and Kyrie dont have to stay hush-hush about that shared memory of Asumus death.

And now, back to the game

Chick-Beato says she wants to learn magic
A: Theres so much wrong here. First off, youre calling the man you love Father. Theres a big difference between Forgive me Father, for I have sinned, "I'm sorry, Dad, I was bad," and Spank me, Daddy, Ive been bad and you are on the WRONG side of ANY of those lines.

Ange pops up in the Metaverse
A: Please say the first words out of your mouth are thats some fucked up shit
Ange: Thats admirable
A: *guffaws*
K: You couldnt have been more wrong if you tried!
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Eerieka
04/03/19 8:22:33 PM
#53:


Oh jeez, I had an Umineko-related dream last night. I barely remember it... I just remember Battler was casting spells and Arria was like "I need to learn that one" lol.

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Then while were laughing like maniacs, Arrias dog comes up thinking its time to play and I swear to god his toy looks like Sakutaro
A: What in the fuck is that? Where did you get a Sakutaro? I didnt buy that!
K: What an appropriate time!
A: Did my grandma buy this for you?
*they play for a little bit*
A: Come on, give me Sakutaro~ Did Beatrice give this to you? It comes from (Arrias workplace) but I didnt buy this for you!
K: Itll rip if you keep tugging on it
A: Bad Rosa!

Featherine calls Beatrice a chick
A: Heres another case of translation woes. I get what theyre saying. A baby chicken. But I can only think of her as a Legally Blonde chick doing her nails all *valley girl voice* Oh my god, did you hear what happened to that bitch Natsuhi?
(the way she said Natsuhis name SLAYED me)
K: Haha. Actually, that happened to me, too. I feel like I missed a memo when I got back into the Umineko fandom after some time because for a while I thought chick Beatrice referred to the Beatrice in a school girl outfit.

Beatrice says she doesnt want to spend a thousand years drinking tea
A: Isnt that what Beatrice 2 said to Rosa? That she didnt want to spend a thousand years locked up in Kuwadorian drinking tea, so thats why she wanted to run away.
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Popcorn_Fairy
04/03/19 8:28:36 PM
#54:


See I never made that mistake at all. Never assumed anything other than a baby chicken.
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Eerieka
04/06/19 12:13:09 AM
#55:


Popcorn_Fairy posted...
See I never made that mistake at all. Never assumed anything other than a baby chicken.


Yeah, I started seeing that term a few years after I'd read Umineko, when I got back into the fanbase and I forgot about that Beatrice being compared to a baby chicken. I just assumed people on the internet were being all Valley-girl about schoolgirl Beato lol.

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Virgilia is transported to Featherines study. Virgilia calls Featherine by her whole name and title
A: God I wish my parents had named me Augustus instead of (her real name).
K: You REALLY like Featherine.
A: I do! I want to keep her and pet her and make her mine! I will call her Featherine!

Virgilia announced herself as Endless and Finite Witch Publius Virgilia Maro
A: Endless AND Finite? Are you also the witch of oxymorons? Also, I thought at first she called herself Featherines publisher.
K; haha. Yeah, I think thats Virgils full name or something.
A: I think so too, but I misread it as Publisher.

Virgilia also says that she hopes your journey through Purgatory is a pleasant one
A: Not typically how that goes!

Ange introduces herself by her titles, and at the end of all this, Arria just snorts in laughter and then the game said that Featherine snorted.
A: OH MY GOD! The game WANTS me to be Featherine at this point!
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Eerieka
04/07/19 8:14:38 PM
#56:


A: So is Beatrice to Ange what Arria is to me?
K: Probably. Not a bad analogy.

Arria keeps fangirling over Featherine. It really is amusing to me how quickly she fell in love with her.

We go to the scene where Erika swims to the island. It isnt immediately obvious whats happening
Game: Nobody could make it to the island without a miracle
A: Fuck you game, I know what youre doing! You cant pull that one on me
K: *game show host voice* Tell the audience what it means, Arria!
A: It means Erika is here and she got here because Bern said fuck you, I activate my trap card!

Erika ahaha.wavs, laughs like a maniac, and then chokes
Arria cackles like a witch herself. Oh my god, she did the trope of *imitates what just happened* I love it!

A: I see we have started with crazy turned up to 11! Also, can you imagine being Kanon and you see this girl walk up to the mansion I WILL GET YOU THIS TIME, BATTLER! and hes like Can I help you? Erika is very much at least 10 cartoon villains. She has some Yzma to her.
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Eerieka
04/09/19 10:47:45 AM
#57:


Erika says she will do her best to solve the crime
A: I SO want her to NOT be the detective.
K; Why not?
A: I just think it would grind her gears SO MUCH. So much! That is my only reasoning. Pure spite. Plus can you imagine the look on her face if Battler was like you were never the detective. She was as he points to some random fucker.
(Oh man this is going to be great when Arria realizes Erika willingly chose NOT to be the detective... so she could be the killer)

Erika goes on about how mystery is a dead genre, as is romance. Arria got mad when Erika said romance might as well have died with Romeo and Juliet.
A: No, fuck you, I want my erotic porn! None of that shit would exist if we didnt have modern literature conventions such as ALL my fetishes being okay to write about!

Battler says he doesnt read books
A: I read with this fancy device called Audible! Yes, I know this is 1986. Dont judge me

Maria mentions she has a puzzle book
A: THATs who I want to be the detective. Maria! Because that would be so much insult for so much injury for Erika.
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Popcorn_Fairy
04/09/19 11:12:32 AM
#58:


Eerieka posted...
A: THATs who I want to be the detective. Maria! Because that would be so much insult for so much injury for Erika.


"Uu, Beatrice is a witch who did it with magic! Case closed!"
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Eerieka
04/10/19 8:13:51 PM
#59:


Popcorn_Fairy posted...
"Uu, Beatrice is a witch who did it with magic! Case closed!"


Ha! Best detective.

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They discuss the riddle of cutting cheese in 8 pieces with the fewest number of slices. Arria gives it a think. Three, right?"

Rudolf: Try thinking of a bunch of ways to stick it in
A: RUDOLF! Your life goal should not be gaming advice!
Krauss: Try thinking outside the box for a bit
A: Actually not that much better when combined with what Rudolf said

A: This whole scene is more of Battlers wedding night than anything else.

Battler says hes about to answer
A: He has the wrong answer, doesnt he?
It seems like its about to go that way. Then he says "one slice"
A: Called it
And then they go on about the shape of the cheese not being specified, so if it was wavy, it COULD be done with one slice.
A: Clever bastards I guess this is a hint of things to come later.

They go on to a riddle about putting coins in cups
A: I know this one! Put one cup in the other!

Erika goes on about how great chopsticks are
A: This took a VERY weird U-turn
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Eerieka
04/11/19 8:42:50 PM
#60:


They talk about table manners, and Natsuhi tells Jessica to watch carefully
A: Jessica is probably thinking her mom is a bitch
Jessica: D-damnit
A: I think Im right!

Theres a screen where Georges head is right behind the lamp and it looks like a pope hat. We laugh at it.

Erika has an orgasm face
A: I dont know what this face means, but I think its not appropriate for work!
K: Its my face when Erika does Erika things.

Back to the wind and rain outside while trapped in the locked room. We had just talked about how Totos Africa is actually about a Werewolf, and theres a sentence about rain and beasts
A: Oh look, Umineko knows what we were talking about as usual. Fucking creepy game
A: OH! Were back to THIS scene. I had forgotten about this absolutely terrifying scene. I expect something to pop into this area between the door and be like HEEEERES CHUCKY!

This scene is FASCINATING from the point of view of someone reading it the second time. Arria thinks it horrifying, theres a spooky monster beyond the window which has closed inside an arm and bites the finger off. I see it as theres definitely imagery of Erika putting the ring around Battlers finger, but theres also imagery of Beatrice coming to his rescue and also Kanon coming to his rescue. I dunno, maybe Im looking too much into it.
I shared with Arria that I saw a different scene. Take out the spooky noises and music, and that scene is actually kinda nice?

It drives her insane, so she goes back and rereads it a few times.

A: I see the symbology of the ring finger on the left hand. Which ties back to the wedding at the beginning. If she tears off his finger, he cant be controlled? Could be seen as Beatrice as giving him a way out.
K: Indeed. Thats what I see, too.
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Eerieka
04/13/19 10:23:26 AM
#61:


In the hallway, Erika basically says someone has to die.
A: Well this is creepy as fuck. Also, what if someone killed her? So much for you, detective!
Battler basically asks the same thing
A: I hate when Im on the same wavelength as Battler

Theres an exact moment when you can see Shannons face basically say welp, time to abort mission

Erika looks at Beatrices portrait and we get the usual explanation of who she is. Maria mentions that Beatrice isnt scary as long as you respect her.
A: Ive discovered that rattlesnakes are my Beatrice. I respect them and I stay away from them.

Erika sneers at Beatos portrait and disrespects it. Maria like hey not cool
A: For once, Im on Marias side. What the fuck is wrong with me? I mean, I still dont really like Maria, but maaan, Erika is absolutely in the wrong here. Im sorry that I hate your favorite so much, but I do
K: *cackle* no worries, were still in the hate part of how everyone feels about her. Youll come around.

Edit: good lord I use the word 'basically' a lot lol. I'm trying to summarize what was said!
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Eerieka
04/15/19 3:58:54 AM
#62:


Chick-Beato asks the portrait when did your wing get torn off
A: THAT is a cool statement. And a nice nod to the One-Winged Eagle.

We are now introduced to Beatrice the Elder

Arria notes that the background looks like they are behind the portrait. Or theres a space for a portrait, but they came out of it.
A few sentences later, Chick-Beatrice mentions it, too. They went to the past, before the portrait was put up.
K: You called it!
A: Thank you, Umineko!

The twin Beatrices pull pranks in the past
A: Ah time travel.

Back to Featherine and Ange
A: I hope at some point in this story, someone points to Featherine and is like Are you not entertained? Is this not why youre here!?

A: I do love how this scene is literally people bickering at the opera in the balcony as they watch witches on stage playing a board game which is in turn another stage. And were watching these people bickering in the balcony.

Back to the cousins and Erika. Erika goes on about how witches dont exist, and Maria gets mad and uus
A: I take it back. Im on Erikas side now. That was one too many uus.
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Mega Mana
04/16/19 3:11:17 PM
#63:


Who needs Lambda and Bern when you have Ekira and Featharrine?
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Eerieka
04/16/19 8:32:31 PM
#64:


Hahahaha, I love those spellings. Nicely played, Mega Mana.

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Erika has one of my favorite lines. The <no thank you> Im having a seriously intellectual conversation here! which I have as a screencap and I use to shitpost on certain websites. I mention to Arria this fun fact and she also takes a screencap.

Dlanor appears and tells Erika this isnt work her time
Erika: Shut up, murder doll!
Of course, this reminds Arria of a Dresden Files fanfic she read, so she quotes it:
A: If you hire a homicidal maniac, take pains to make sure he doesnt think you know hes a homicidal maniac

Maria has a really mad face
A: Oh my fuck, I love that face.

Erika screams for Dlanor to beat her to death!!! with all those as their own line and a gunshot as the exclamation points.
A: I love that she enunciated a gunshot
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Eerieka
04/18/19 11:00:34 AM
#65:


Dlanor says that Knoxs 8th allows Marias cup to be used
A: Is she trying to defend Maria here?

Then Dlanor says that Knoxs 9th permits others observations
A: This is her moment of shes right. I know the laws. You hired me as your lawyer. Please stop using me as a pawn in your games.

Gertrude appears and says Let it be known this fight has no purpose
Arria laughs. I love how theyre like. *throws arms out* We dont know why were here either

Aw, Erika no longer calls Maria a moron. She just says Of course it is!

A: I am very much in Dlanors camp right now. Feeling really? This is the game were playing? How old are you again?

Erika tells Dlanor to get out of the way you worthless scraps of paper!
A: Scraps of paper?
K: Think about it. What are they? Those three
A: Rules. Pages in a law book.

Dlanor says rather deadpan congratulations on your victory over Maria.
A: God I can taste the sarcasm. Good job! You crushed a young girls hopes and dreams. Do you feel big? Does it feel good?
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Eerieka
04/19/19 8:48:01 PM
#66:


A: The more Dlanor is on screen, the more I love her. I dont know where I ranked her last time, but she needs to be higher
K: You had her at 2nd. Right under Kyrie
A: Okay, thats a good spot. I still love Kyrie, crazy murder hobo

Gertrude and Cornelia say this was a childish fight
A: They are so fucking right

Sakutaro tries to get Maria to believe in witches again, but alas, the young girls dreams have been destroyed

All the cousins are disgusted at Erika being so mean to Maria. Arria is in agreement with them.

The narration says Shannon returned to the servant room briefly before going to the arbor to accept Georges proposal. I wonder what kind of internal battle she had~ Maybe this is when Yasu realized she needed to have a love duel.

George says he had trouble getting a girlfriend because he was a nice guy
K: I guess he never told anyone he was filthy fucking rich
A: I also love how Ryukishi is calling out all the good guy males.
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Eerieka
04/21/19 6:20:18 AM
#67:


George says that Shannon changed him but he says it in a vague both of you way
K: Wait, what the fuck did George just say?
A: Yeah, go back a minute You two? Kanon?
K: Just keep going. Im not sure who the fuck hes talking about. (I really dont. It CANT be Kanon, right?)

He was talking about Battler, actually, about a time when Battler and Shannon were younger and they were cool. It made George want to be cooler

Ange pops in and asks Featherine if this is the kind of shit she peeps on in her spare time
Featherine is like yes, but your virgin disgust is even better.
A: Been there!
K: You are really relating to Featherine right now, arent you?
A: SO MUCH. Ange is currently basically my Mormon friend when she learns about the erotica I read

Also, are we going to ignore the fact that George is like 6 years older than Battler, so 6 years ago, Battler was a cool 12 year old and George was fucking 18? What 18 year old is jealous of a 12 year old? Im not sure how old Sayo would have appeared so Ill refrain from saying if s/he looked 12 as well.
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Eerieka
04/22/19 11:16:04 AM
#68:


A: I love this game (Said out of absolutely nowhere)
K: What triggered that?
A: Think about all the Triple A games right now. Nothing has a story or characters or anything as good as this. Brutus could eat alphabet soup and shit a better plot than anything I've seen in a big-name game recently. This game is just sooo good. It has such amazing, deep, flawed characters. I love them even when I hate them.
(We then go on a LONG discussion about current age video games and how I dont consider Umineko a video game anyway, but she still thinks of it as one because we have puzzles and discussions about it more than I could do with any book!)

A: Also, my mental image right now is Featherine is like okay Ange, stand over there for a minute *put hand down shirt* and Ange is like Um, Im going to go rotate the tires on the camel.
K: *struggling with poker face* Pay no attention to me.
A: Come on, you know Featherine likes erotica! She probably would watch George and Genji go at it.

George then mentions he will be a successful businessman
A: He called you out on it. You said earlier that he should have asked those girls if they knew he was rich.
K: Im just saying, a LOT of women would fuck him for his money.
A: To be fair, a lot of women would refrain from fucking him if he wore that suit. Like, you gotta be naked before I even THINK about it.

George says he wants to create many things that only a couple can make.
A: And now Ange goes to rotate the tires on the camel. And Featherine gets out the big buttplug.
K: What the fuck, Arria? *laughs*
A: I got you to laugh! That's all I wanted!
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Eerieka
04/24/19 11:55:09 AM
#69:


George and Shannon talk about having babies. Oh my gooooood this is so sad, knowing Shannon doesnt have the right parts.
And then they talk about grandkids and being surrounded by kids in their old age
A: That doesnt sound nice! That sounds awful! This went from aww to ugh This game, man
She has no fucking clue how Im feeling right now. Fuck, Sayo is probably calling herself furniture right now. ;_;

George: My parents might criticize this marriage
A: MIGHT? Thats a polite way of saying Eva will shit a horse. Shes going to lock you in your room until youre 30.

Erika and GM Battler talk about love. Erika says she cannot accept love as proof
A: The theme of this game is without love, it cannot be seen. You need to figure out what it is. Maybe try to find love!

Dlanor tells Erika to chill out
A: I adore her. The next time (her OC Arria) needs a daughter, Im naming her Dlanor
K: because NO ONE is going to question THAT name.
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Eerieka
04/26/19 12:10:56 PM
#70:


Oh jeez, here we go with love duel stuff. Im not mentally prepared ;_;
Arria is so confused. I bet this scene makes so much more sense when I read it again.
K: You have no idea the sentence I just wrote. But it has a crying-eye emoticon
A: Oh jeez.
K: To be fair, its not THIS scene, but what will happen
A: The first twilight?
K: Ehh. Build up with Shannon and Kanon
A: I know this much. One of you has a ring on your finger. I know who has the advantage!
(I love the way she phrased that, because its technically the same ring on the same finger)

The two Beatri appear. Arria tries to figure out how they work. Who has what memories
A: So this Beatrice remembers being Beatrice? And this one read the book, so she knows some things the other doesnt?
K: Its like the Elder is the spirit of the island. So she knows things that the witch did.

Day 40 (3/1/19)

Chick Beatrice: Just who on earth are we?
A: Well THATS a hell of a way to start the day!

The game uses the term Beatrices
K: yeah, there ya go. The plural of Beatrice is Beatrices
A: Wow. Didnt you even say earlier that this would happen. I remember jokingly asking what the plural of Beatrice is, and you were like just wait.

The two Beatrices hold hands.
A: Speaking of bold of you to assume I am straight
(Referencing the pic I mentioned earlier)
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Eerieka
04/29/19 3:23:25 AM
#71:


The Beatrices are in the past, but also in the future sorta-kinda
A: Ah time travel. A cornucopia of disturbing concepts.
A: So this sorta ties back to ep 4s balcony scene where we see two Beatrices talking to one another. If these two are in the past, they could have been on that balcony. I mean, I get this is all metaphorical.

Back to the creepy room. Battler opens the door just a little bit.
A: I know this wont happen, but I keep expecting like, the Momo to appear right there.

At the end of the scene, Battler escapes.
A: I remember the scene we saw last time. This happened because the witch bit off the finger.

A; Has that been the solution to so many of these closed-room mysteries? Theyll say something like Oh Hideyoshi locked the door and he would never open it for anyone. Well yes, he would! He would open it for Eva or George.
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Eerieka
05/01/19 11:05:22 AM
#72:


Battler almost escapes, but a collar and chain appears around his neck and stops him.
Because he needs to solve the mystery before he can leave the room.

Theres a graphic of a chain
A: I love this picture.
K: really? Just a simple chain pic? I mean, I like whips and chains
A: For one, its shiny. I like shiny things. I may secretly be a crow. For 2, I love that little gap in the chain right there *points to it* Its a tiny little flaw, like the secret that will get him out of this closed room mystery.
K: Good thinking. It can symbolize the way out.

Arria says she wishes she still had a chain lock on her door because she now wants to try unsetting it in a few different ways. She mentions tweezers she uses at work that she thinks might work

Then a sentence later, Battler has the same idea
A: God damn it! Now hes going to explain why Im an idiot!
Battler mentions using a wire coat hanger
A: Oh, I didnt think of that one.
K: Ah, the third use of a coat hanger
A: Hanging coats, breaking into cars *waits* oh, abortions.
K: I would consider breaking into cars and breaking out of closed rooms the same thing!
A: They require a different skill set! Ive watched TV shows about this

ahaha.wav plays
A: Motherfucker. I had my hopes up. An I should have known better! That is a rookie mistake in this game!
A: Also, that is NOT Beatrices laugh.
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Eerieka
05/04/19 8:45:17 AM
#73:


Arria is curious about if there are drop ceilings in this mansion.
K: I doubt it. That would violate the Knox rules, I think.
A: But its not a secret passage. If this mansion was built in the 40s or 50s or whatever and they installed lights and phone lines, its reasonable they might have a vent so their electricians can get in
K: Now that might be violating the law about things needing to be simple!
A: Damn it, it has to be simple if I understand it! Now I want to write a mystery novel with you about an IT person murdering others in closed rooms and using the vents and drop ceilings. We can foreshadow it by having them crawl in sewers earlier.
K; Sounds good to me. yeah, I think thats the crux of most of the Knox rules: As long as you foreshadow your shit, its good.
A: Like what you said about the Dresden Files. it has supernatural stuff all over, but its sufficiently explained and foreshadowed.

Theres a laugh with many peoples voices, including what I thought was Battler
K: Was that Battler?
A: I thought so too
K: Maybe it was George. Or maybe it was Battlers voice actor and they got him to do it to fuck with us
A: Maybe the voice director was like you four fuckers on a smoke break. We need you to do a laugh for us.

The cousins are playing cards in their room, having fun and laughing. Even Maria is kinda cute
A: I like how Maria is cute now. She went from creepy devil-child to like a normal girl
K: Yeah, thats true. I didnt want to say anything earlier, but that is definitely something that has happened. Maria gets less creepy as the game goes on.
A: I like it. Like, she was initially (our mutual friend who works with mentally disabled children)s problem child, but now shes bearable.
(Kira note: No offense to mentally disabled children. We just... have issues dealing with children in general... This is an 'us' problem, not them).
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05/08/19 10:54:53 AM
#74:


Then Kanon appears
A: YOU on the other hand, have gotten progressively creepier. You and Shannon both. I feel like playing cards with him would be like playing cards with Lt. Data.
Arria wanted to add that she really loves The Orville and thought yesterdays episode was fucking amazing.
K: Keep in mind this will probably get posted a few months from now

The game mentions that Jessica playfully slapped Kanon on the back
A: Jessica, honey, he wants you to go a little lower.

Kanon mentions being furniture and wanting to become human
A: That is one fucking mystery I want explained in its entirety
K: *laugh*
A: Youve said the furniture thing isnt as bad, but god damn, all I can imagine is bad stuff!

Jessica asks Kanon if he wants to learn guitar
A: Is that what the kids are calling it today? Practicing your fingering, huh? Jessica can play his shakuhachi.

Game: Kanon was afraid he would make a complete fool of himself if he touched a musical instrument for the first time in his life
A: Congrats, Jessica. Your clitoris is a musical instrument.
A: I love turning this into something dirty
K: You might not be wrong. I mean, Umineko has all been about rereading magical scenes and figuring out the truth.
A: So youre saying these two are actually in the closet together fingering one another?
K; Well, maybe not literally that. Maybe theyre flirting or talking dirty.
A: Which all it takes for Jessica is Kanon saying Hi? Youre cute? and shed be like FUCK ME! rips off shirt (she said Jessicas line really manly-like). Why did I make Jessica a baritone? Kanon will find out soon!
(I love the idea that Jessica is secretly a man while Kanon is secretly a man without a penis)
A: Normally I am all for an unrequited love story coming true. There are times, however
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05/12/19 8:57:29 AM
#75:


Kanon asks why Jessica likes him.
A: What if Kanon werent here? Like, he had never become a servant, and it was just Jessica, her parents, Kinzo, and Genji? Would she have grown into the kind of woman I am? Liking older men? And no, you are NOT allowed to psychoanalyze me! Go back home, Freud!

Kanon: It usually saddens you when I talk about furniture
Arria: (pretending to be Jessica): Nooo, not my couch! Dont talk about my beautiful couch!

Jessica: I dont want to hear any more of that Im furniture so I cant love talk
A; the fact that this is a conversation you need to have repeatedly is a problem. Yall need therapy.

A: So Shannon and Kanon have retained their memories between episodes. And theyve been growing between episodes. Maybe thats whats going on? Kanon has been slowly over time gaining love. Im adding this to my Shannon-culprit theory, by the way. Shannon has been growing somehow
K: Keep in mind what the different stories literally are.
A: Stories written by Featherine?
K: Yeah.
A: So are Shannon and Kanon like characters she wrote to be meta and weird?
K I mean, they did exist. Rokkenjima did exist in Featherines world. Shes just writing fanfiction of real-life events
(It suddenly dawns on Arria how fucking weird and creepy that is. She goes on a LONG rant about how it would be the equivalent of someone writing a fanfic of Ted Bundy and Timothy McVeigh)
A: Now I understand Anges feelings on Featherine entirely.

Featherine and Ange then appear and talk about the love between Jessica/Kanon and George/Kanon
A: I said this back in episode 2. Eva was pissed about George marrying the help. You dont marry outside of your class. Like you can fuck that thing all you want, but youll do good by your REAL wife (spoken in a southern rich-bitch voice)
(Again, I love the idea of Shannon actually having a vagina)
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05/15/19 7:54:11 PM
#76:


Featherine says that trying to stop two lovers from being wed is like trying to stop an arrow
A: Well, maybe not an arrow something arrow-shaped and made in New York in the 60s!

Ange: So why is furniture not allowed to love?
A: Oh that is a dark thought. I mean, in real life its a dark thgouth. in Umienko, its a 3. So George marries Shannon and runs away and lives happily ever. Then Jessica? Shes gonna want to marry Kanon! Then the family is going to be pissed. Suddenly, everyone has an arranged marriage! Jessica, Battler, and Maria, youre all marrying only parent-approved spouses!

Arria had an idea about them finding a literal brooch on the beach which leads to treasure somehow.
A: Kinzo gave it to a Beatrice. I hate that that is grammatically fucked and yet correct at the same time!

Beatrice It can be burned by the anti-magic toxin
A: because if it was found on a servant, the adults would be like why do you have this? Youre just a servant! you stole it! Now you are fired without references and youll be an urchin the rest of your life.

They talk about the placebo effect, which we had talked about earlier, so Arria feels validated by her thoughts.

The chick-Beatrice says she feels better when reading the description on cold medicine.
A: When have you taken day medicine!? Youre a day and a half old!

Arria keeps on mentioning things just a few scenes before Umineko mentions them. During the talk about magic and believing, she talked about how it sounds like religion and then a few screens later, they talk about religion.
A: I swear next time I have a thought, Im just going to click a few screens ahead before I say it.
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Mega Mana
05/16/19 2:26:54 PM
#77:


(I love the idea that Jessica is secretly a man while Kanon is secretly a man without a penis)

Welp! I have a new ship.

Game: Kanon was afraid he would make a complete fool of himself if he touched a musical instrument for the first time in his life


.....huh. poor furniture.
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05/18/19 5:19:59 AM
#78:


Hey Mega Mana, what's up?

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Day 41 (3/8/19)

Arria says she had some thoughts while at work the previous week:

A: What if Shannon and Kanon already found the gold? And that is what the butterfly brooch represents? A chance to make a new life with their chosen one before one of these dipshits figures out the riddle? Theyve been on the island this whole time with all these resources. Whos to say they havent figure it out already? And since Im just throwing stuff at walls without a lot of evidence, uhh thats it. If the rabbit hole stopped, it just stopped.

A: We've always seen the gold as a massive pile of bars. What if they each only have one bar, and that represents the butterfly brooch?
K: Why cant they share the gold then?
A: Cant get it off the island? Or if they only have one bar, maybe they stole the one Krauss had somewhere? Or maybe what they can steal is only enough for one person. Or maybe the one bar of gold is their payment for their schemes for the real mastermind. Or something like Ill allow one of you to leave. The other must remain my slave. Mwahahaha.

A: Why is Nanjo lying? Is he on the take? Does he have a personal stake in this?
K: I imagine he has one of the seven stakes as his own.
A: *laughs* Oh Lucifer, my beloved! I mean, he has a family. I guess my question is just why? Why is he being corrupt as all fuck? We KNOW he is, but why? Which is what got me thinking that hes getting paid off by the whole family to lie about how they died on the island. I remembered Ange visited the family of Nanjo and Kumasawa and they had money. Maybe it was a set-up. They rigged and explosion and set up fake corpses. This whole thing is insurance fraud! Theyre just setting up to get rid of their debts, and they needed Nanjo to pull it off. This is also why they tested the bomb on the shrine last year. So now they are thinking lets all fake our deaths and leave! yay! But now Battler is here and he threw a wrench into those gears.
A: I wonder if Featherine might be their lawyer trying to figure out all this shit just so she can put up a good defense. I mean, she looks like she could be a lawyer in Phoenix Wright.
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05/22/19 8:53:32 PM
#79:


Arria also wanted to make sure that the detective at some point saw the gold. She asked if Erika did see the gold in Ep 5, and I had to double check, but yes, she did
A: Well that crosses off a whole bunch of theories I had. Including the Disney End The true gold was the friends we made along the way. Which is very literal in Bernkastels case
(We both laugh)

A: Oh yeah, and please dont tell me at any point they combine their golden butterfly brooches and have a Captain Planet by out powers combined! moment. These scenes are just rife with it
K: If they DO do that, ask yourself why. What does it represent?
A: I feel like you say that a lot. That about sums up Umineko in a nutshell: "what does this scene represent?"

A: I wonder if Jessica fell for Kanon because he was the only male on the island who was her own age. Like, why Kanon? Why look at him and think that is the man Im going to mate with! Though I suppose the same could be said of any male I find attractive

A: Oh, and Ive always wondered what the golden butterflies are. Or, why golden butterflies? I get that they represent magic, but why butterflies?

Alright, back to the game!

We left off with Ange and Featherine talking about the butterfly brooch
Ange: You and the Beatos provide an answer, however vague
A: If youre smarter and more clever than me, which isnt difficult, to be fair
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05/24/19 5:30:05 PM
#80:


Ange: Why did Shannon need to borrow the power of magic again?
A: Heres a dark thought. What if its blackmail?
K; What do you mean? Whos blackmailing who?
A: Beatrice as in the culprit, is blackmailing (drop down menu): to survive this shit, a chance off the island, now being murdered, the right to date my son/daughter.

Featherine says she has some views, but she wont tell Ange because that will ruin her fun. Arria gives me a look of well this is literally you right now.
Ange: Youre having me read this novel you already have the answer to just so you can watch me blunder about.
A: God damn it, Kira.

A; Oh yeah, that reminded me of another thing I wondered. What ever happened to Beatrice 2? Like, did they bury her? Did they just leave her on the beach?

Ange says the furniture were hoping for true magic, not just courage/hope. (I mean, a sex change surgery would also work).

Kanon talks about when Shannon broke the mirror and got the butterfly brooch
A: translation: When Shannon tested the bomb, the culprit/Beatrice was like thank you, servant. Heres a bit of gold for your work.
Kanon: The magic in this brooch gave Shannon the magic to find love
A: translation: Ill also allow you to date my son if you carry this out.
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05/26/19 8:02:59 AM
#81:


Kanon: Thanks to magic, I exist here today
A: is that what magic has been this whole time? Sex?

Kanon: The power was lost when the brooch split in half
A: Was it a check!?

Kanon: Only one of us furniture can have it
Game: (stuff about how Beatrice wanted to watch love bear fruit)
A: I read these words, and they look so pleasant on the outside. But underneath, this is dark

Then theres a line about Jessica falling on her back and moaning (as a bright light engulfs her).
A: So going back to my previous thought! She fell back and moaned?
(I give Arria a suspicious look)
A: I think its what were both thinking! Shes getting nailed!
(I mean, Im know this is impossible since Kanon lacks a penis, but sure Arria, whatever you think)

And now were with Battler and Chick-Beatrice. She made cookies for him!
A: And cue him being an asshole about it.
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05/27/19 10:28:40 AM
#82:


Battler: Im in the middle of a vital game. This is the final game
A: One, youre not in the middle. Two, this is not the final game! Unless ep 7 and 8 are each a twilight

Genji says Kumasawas name, and I think Arria is horny because she says she REALLY likes the way his voice sounded.

Battler wonders who would expect poison in the cookies.
A: Anyone whos read the last 5 games?
K: Its also kinda a thing in Higurashi, so Ryukishi might be calling back to that as well
A: Ahh. The man likes his poisoned goodies.

Back and Ange and Featherine
Ange: I may be his little sister, but I cant understand him
A: *chuckle*

Ange: This Beatrice will show us more about the other Beatrice
A: Battler isnt Battler in this, is it? Remember in Ep 3 when we saw Rosas view of Beatrice 2? Is this similar? that Beatrice was cute and I made you sweets, Kinzo. And Kinzo would be like Yeah, well SHE never would have made me sweets! Are we getting that?

Ange and Chick-Beatrice talk about why she (Beato) calls Battler Father, and it reminds me of a scene coming up where Shannon and Kanon talk about their Father which I always thought meant Sayo, and this scene is reinforcing that imo.
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05/30/19 10:59:10 AM
#83:


Arria stops after Ange says Youre not furniture. You sound like a girl.
A: New theory. 6 years ago, Battler would have been 13. What if there was a servant girl in love with him, and he blew her off?
(I dont want to ask her any questions to continue down that rabbit hole lol. Ill let her just forget about this for now)

Battler talks to the cackling Beatrice and Ronove
A: is it bad Im imaging him sitting at a desk and using sock puppets to have this conversation?

Arria joked that Beatrice would put an aphrodisiac in his cookies. A screen later, Beatrice suggests the same thing
A: *waves at computer* What did I just fucking say!?

Then the stakes come in and act cute and horny.
Beelzebub appears
A: Hello, cutie who has waaay too many of the same fetishes I do.
Asmodeus says you have to grab a man by all three sacks (the stomach, the wallet, and something else)
A: I hope the next one is a stake saying nobody answer that question.

The illusions fade, and only Battler and Beatrice remain
A: Now I think Battler is having just the sock puppet talk to him and Genji is in the background looking disappointed.

Battler: How did it feel when you were playing with me?
A: well thats an open-ended question.
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06/02/19 8:24:09 AM
#84:


Beatrice says If you cant think of her as me, why not think of her as my daughter?
A: This is NOT helping with the whole Kinzo=Battler thing.

Battler says he could mold the new Beatrice however he wants, and he harkens back to the scene where Beatrice stripped him naked and walked him on a leash, saying he can do that to her now.
K: Like its hot and not at the same time. Part of me is aroused, part of me is horrified.

Jessica and George wake up in the mysterious place which I think of as being inside Sayos mind.
K: Oh boy, here we go.
A: I should save I cant even die in this game, but I should save!

Shannon and Kanon bring the butterfly brooch together
A: Is this about to become the worst game show ever? Lets play who gets to mate!
K: Didnt you make a joke about them putting the brooch together and having a captain planet moment?
A: Yes, I did Also, Im with Jessica here. (Jessica had a line about being angry and confused). Like, if I confessed my love to (her husband) and then I was on a game show and it was like and now you have to play the Alice game! (Rozen Maiden), Id be like peace out, yall.

Furfur and Zepar talk before their sprites appear
A: Oh, THESE fuckers!
K: You forgot about them, didnt you?
A: I did! *groans*

A: Alright, Im gonna guess THIS one is Shannon/George (Furfur) and THIS one is Jessica/Kanon (Zepar)
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06/05/19 11:15:39 AM
#85:


They call out for Beatrice
Arria opens her mouth like shes about to say something, then closes it.
Two Beatrices appear
Furfur says well theres two of us, so why not two Beatrices ever now and then?
A: I went into this scene thinking Im going to analyze this and now my brain is just what the happy fuck is this?

I love how the Beatrices claim they are the same person. Like youre also the same person with Shannon and Kanon! But I guess in this case, its a matter of theyre the same person who loves the same person.

A: Im with Jessica again. Id be thinking damn Kanon, if Id known about this before I started dating you, Id have second thoughts
A: Can you imagine any of these couples telling their grandkids about this one day?
K: (internally) not possible, but
A: Grandma, tell me again how you and granddad starting dating because of the furry. Its Furfur, not furry!
I then told her a story about how one time, before Umineko came out, I was researching Goetia demons (it was an interest after Persona 3 came out), and I had the thought of no one will ever name a fictional demon after Furfur, unless its a furry. Well, I was wrong.

She opens up their profiles, and says she loves Zepars purple rose on his/her leg and stockings/shoes. We talk about how we like their design, but not the coloration. She thinks if Zepar had purple hair, s/he would be perfect. And Furfurs coloration is just awful all over. I said Id like to see one with red/pink coloration, although that might be too Gaap-ish.

K: Also, my headcanon is that Zepar is a girl and Furfur is a boy, just because their voices make you think the other way
A: Alternatively, it just says a different gender. It could be like, one is a hermaphrodite, and the other has no genitals. Or maybe theyre some fantasy-gender.
K: True! And thats of course not getting into the differences between sex and gender.
A: Theres a topic for another day
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06/09/19 4:24:15 AM
#86:


Arria had a moment where she couldnt get over how Jessica and elder Beatrices outfits looked the same.
K: It could be a case of the sprite is lying or oh hey, look at this outfit I found in Jessicas closet

Shannon says that if Kanon gets his happy end, she will not, and vice versa
A: Are the four of them literally in a room with the culprit and being told two of you will assist me in my plan and get to live. The other two must die.

A: I get that this is all played up for drama, but if I were in Jessicas shoes right now, Id be telling Kanon no, were leaving. You clicked on the Nigerian Prince email, didnt you? Well talk about that after we get home, but were leaving. FUCK your fate. FUCK your fight to see who gets to love!

A: Like, did all four of them just have a stroke?
K; Just keep going
A: It gets better?
K: Define better
A: George, put the kool-aid down!

George asks if theyre going to test who can display the strength of their feelings most strongly
A: Are they filming a porno?

A: Im going to start mocking this scene, because it is making me angry
K: Thats good. Its the feeling youre supposed to have.
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06/11/19 11:01:04 AM
#87:


A: Theyre like old people on the phone with what they think is Apple tech support and is actually a scammer in some other country. Like, I really want to solve this problem, but the only way I see how involves a shovel.
A: Alternatively, this scene:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTOKJTRHMdw" data-time="


A: Jessica should just pick up Kanon, give them dirty eyes, and walk out.

A: Theres more to love than just eros. Theres also love between siblings, which you have crushed and spat on.
K (internally): I dont even want to think of how many of the old Greek forms of love are going on here

Then chick-Beatrice is told shes part of the mess as well. Arria just groans and rubs her face.

A: Heres a funny way to solve it: fuck you, were all getting married to one another! Polygamy for the win!
(I struggle to withhold my laughter because Ive seen comics where that is literally what happens and Sayo gets his/her good end. I mean, polygamy WOULD solve all of Uminekos problems! Or at least Sayos)
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06/12/19 11:51:41 AM
#88:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgFyCuKoEGA" data-time="

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06/12/19 11:06:10 PM
#89:


Haha, oh man, I love ProZD! Good video, Jeff. That one is entirely too appropriate to what's going on.
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06/15/19 8:56:53 AM
#90:


The scene changes to Erika making duct tape seals and Dlanor. She saw the first time Erika has her sprite of holding duct tape. I thought it appeared later, but okay. I then shared with her a story of how my work badge was falling apart and I had the thought of I am an Erika. What would an Erika use? Duct tape! so I just duct taped my badge back together.

Erika confesses her love to Dlanor
A: Is she looking in a mirror?

A: Did Featherine just put a monologue in her story?
K: I like to imagine this as Featherine writing Berkastel deciding to write a background for her OC.

During the scene, Arria is mostly quiet. At the end she just says I love Dlanor, but that was creepy. It was a whole bunch of I love you! yeah, well prove that you love me!"
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06/18/19 12:55:39 PM
#91:


So much going on! She's been right on so many times! You have the patience of a saint not to just boop her on the nose and tell her she's won.
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06/21/19 7:20:26 PM
#92:


She has said a lot of the magic words, but not quite what I'm looking for, so she hasn't won yet imo. Although she has praised my improved poker face because I used to be really bad about giving away what I was thinking lol.

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05/24/19
Day 42

We start with Eva flipping out at George because of his choice in marriage partner
A; Ooh, brave of you, George. So hes confessed this time around!
George says he is a believer in preserving chastity before marriage
(K internally: Obviously or else hed know Shannons secret.)
A; Well George is boring as fuck. I mean, I get it, but People who dont fuck or live with their partners before marriage confuse me. What if you find out something weird about them? Youre screwed then!
(K internally again: Like finding out she doesnt have a vagina?)

Eva asks George if he is a stray alley cat?
Arria laughs. Wow. Greatest mom.

Eva: Just let your mother handle this for now!
A: This sentence makes me irrationally angry. Aaaand, hello, personal psychoses, I was wondering how long until you appeared.

Eva mentions trying to hook George up with a well-to-do girl named Ayumi
A: Should I remember this name? Is this Ayumu?
K: No, shes a nobody. Dont worry about it.
A: Also, fuck arranged marriages. Can you imagine your parents just auctioning off your vagina?
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06/26/19 6:11:27 PM
#93:


A: Like, Ive never hated Eva more than I hate her in this scene, and I logically knew it was coming.

Eva: Well take care of everything for you
A: Take care of (making air quotes)
Eva: Dont worry, we wont do anything bad to Shannon-chan
A: FUCK YOU RYUKISHI!

A: My emotional state is basically a rage face with two middle fingers
K: Or like the Pop Team Epic girls?
(She hadnt heard of it, so I showed her pics of Popoko and Pipimi giving the middle finger)
A: YES. That is how I feel right now!

K; Oh yeah, who do you think will go on the first twilight?
A: *cough* Hoping Eva at this point She seems likely. Ill say Eva Krauss, Genji, Maria, Rosa. Am I at five or six?
K: Five.
A: Alright. Either Rudolf or Kyrie. One of the two.

The game referred to Eva as a witch
A: *chuckles* Now change my mental state to that picture from Ouran High of the blond kid growing mushrooms on his head.

George: Now begins the trial of my love!
A: Oh you think THIS is the trial of your love?
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06/27/19 11:35:59 AM
#94:


Worldend Dominator plays
Evatrice appeared
A: Mornin bitch! Wondered if wed see you again!

Game: Even the drastic change in his mothers appearance didnt faze George
A: Gonna be honest, if I were talking to (husbands mother) and she changed into a witch-loli, that would faze me! Thered be a lot of fazing going on!

Eva: I used to read to you all the time when you were little, didnt I? We read Journey to the West
A: There are a LOT of levels to this conversation, arent there?

Eva creates a web underneath George and he compared it to how hes been tied down his whole life
A: Reasons not to have a kid: Umineko edition

They talk about all the shit Eva made George do after school. Cram school, piano lessons, more supplemental lessons. Seems like pretty standard Japanese stuff (or at least what my Japanese animu have led me to believe).
A: No wonder George rebelled against you!

A: So are they actually fighting now? Or like still yelling? because this is some gruesome shit.
K: I mean, maybe Eva has slapped him?

George: I learned a lot of things from Sayo (he lists many things) and how to be just a little stylish
A: I disagree with that last one! Your shirt needs to go back to the 60s where it belongs. Okay, your tie might count as a little bit stylish.
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06/28/19 6:33:58 PM
#95:


Eva: Time to get back into your mothers womb!
A: I would say thats the most disturbing thing Ive read in Umineko but its not!
K: So what is?
A: I cant think of anything at the top of my head, but Im sure its been in there.

A: They keep using spider-webs for Evatrice. This could possibly be an allusion to when she made the Red Web, but I also remember schoolgirl-Beatrice was afraid of spider/spider-webs. It could be a coincidence, but this is Umineko where theres no such thing as coincidences.

A: So if the webs here are parental love then does that mean schoolgirl Beatrice is afraid of parental love? Or am I looking WAY too far into it?
K: I think its valid.
I can only think of how Beatrice 2 was raped by Kinzo, her father, soooo.

George starts fight back against Eva.
A: Hold on, we need a specific background music for this (turns on Kung Fu Fighting)
George: I never had more fun than when I was learning martial arts from you
Music: Those kids were kung fu fighting!

Music: Here comes the big boss!
Evatrice pops into the side of the screen
A: Oh my god its perfect.
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Eerieka
07/01/19 10:20:21 AM
#96:


A: And then theres going to be something even more horrible, because we cant have nice things
George then calls Gaap
A: Did he actually murder her? Because that escalated quickly

A: Also, I love the thing theyre doing her with Game A: They were fighting and killing each other! and Game B: Theyre allies hiding bodies together.

We return to the world where Zepar and Furfur exist and are doing their thing with the love duels
A: So this is another layer of the Metaverse? Another layer on the onion?
K: I mean, I have my own concept of where this takes place, but you can think of it as whatever makes sense to you.
A: Which isnt a lot!

Chick-Beatrice looks depressed while Jessica is getting fired up to murder next
A: Oh god, who is Beatrice going to kill (sounding sad). Wait, did I just say that in that tone of voice?! What has this game DONE to me?

Back to the family conference, and were told Natushi and Kyrie were tired of shit because they werent allowed to speak.
A: Time for them to go off on their own and do lesbian porn?

Jessica appears and talks to Kyrie.
A: Not the one I would have chosen.
The game then talks about how she picked at random based on the first person she saw. The demons called it the roulette of fate.
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Eerieka
07/03/19 10:52:09 AM
#97:


Jessica talks to Kyrie first about the love trial.
A; I DO think she picked the right person to talk to about this, considering what we know about Kyrie. She had to endure her own love trial.

Ange and Featherine appear to give commentary about Kyries dialogue and what Ange remembers
A: Oh shit, I forgot about these two!
Ange shits on her own dad lol
A: If theres ever a character who should have gone with the harem ending and saved himself a lot of stress, its Rudolf!
K: Haha, yeah (internally: hell, if Sayo went with the harem route, Umineko would have never happened)

Game: Many women fell for Rudolfs generosity as well as his thick wallet
A; Wallet, huh? Is that what were calling it these days?

A: I do like that Kyrie won by not being stereotypically feminine.
Ange talks about women being jealous
A: I mean, not all women are jealous bitches. Kyrie is, to be fair! Its literally her super power!

A; Oh, I had a thought. Please tell me Im wrong. Asumu got pregnant to trap Rudolf oh now you have to marry me! Then she lost the baby somehow, so she got one of Rudolfs other by-blows. He might have had a bunch of bastard children.

Jessica asks about Asumu
Kyrie: Ah yes, I knew her well
A: Before I killed her

Kyrie mentions the Plank of Carneades, which neither of us have heard of, so I had to look it up. its more of a legal thought experiment than a philosophical one. I think most people would push the other person off the plank.

Ange mentions that Kyrie and Asumu got pregnant at the same time.
A: Ah, yes. Here we go

Then Kyrie talks about how Rudolf still managed to get Kyrie into a hospital and visit her when her baby was born.
The game says Asumu gave birth to Battler and Kyrie had a stillborn
A: They switched the babies. Or someone STOLE her child. Also, wouldnt this mean Rudolf was fucking them at roughly the same time?
K: Oh yeah, absolutely.
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Eerieka
07/06/19 11:16:56 AM
#98:


Kyrie says shes grateful to her master.
Arria gets an absolutely priceless look on her face. What the fuck? Is she in league with demons or is this a weird translation?
The kanji in question is just shu, as in both shujin and goshujinsama. By itself it means Lord but usually in the context of THE Lord, not Lord so-and-so-humdum human. Its weird, and I dont know THAT much Japanese, but I half-ass a response anyway:
K: It does mean master, but in traditional Japanese male chauvinism, it also means husband.
A: Is it sad I was actually kinda hoping that was the case, because husband makes more sense than master here. I mean, Kyrie, lady, you wear the pants in this household.

Kyrie hints that she murdered Asumu
A: Wait have we been told how Asumu died? Because it REALLY sounds like Kyrie killed her!
Game: Kyrie did not kill Asumu
A: Again, fuck you, Ryukishi.
Then Kyrie talks about how she was going to kill her, but then she went and died on her own
A: Yeah, that would probably make me mad, too. God, I knew you were my favorite for a reason, Kyrie. Youre absolutely crazy.

Kyrie mentions something about executing your persona
A: Well this just took a turn for the Persona 5.

Jessica then attacks, and she gets a brief picture with her empty eyes
A: Well THAT was horrifying

A: Why are her eyes like that?
K: To scare you?
A: Okay.
(I love how she just accepts that as an answer lol)

A: If she was really tossed that far back by this anime blast of wind, just run away!
(Kyrie does literally that lol)
And then Ronove blocks her path
A: Well, I tried

And then Leviathan appears to support Kyrie
A: More frenemies
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07/10/19 11:21:28 AM
#99:


Zepar and Furfur pop in for a brief moment to say Jessica is immortal due to their blessing
A: I feel like everyone in the room is thinking at this moment that these two just need to shut up and let the bitch fight continue.

Oooh, between all the envy math we are told that Shannon has about three shifts per week at the Ushiromiya mansion. This was something I was wondering earlier, since I figured Shannon and Kanon have never been on duty at the same time. If Shannon and Kanon each have three shifts, possibly on different days, it would make sense. I mean, shed be working 6 days a week and that sucks, but its possible

Arria then tries to think of how this scene is actually playing out.
A: So Kyrie is holding a knickknack and locked herself in a room. Meanwhile Jessica is outside holding nothing? Banging on the door? While Genji stands nearby.

A: Oh, I get it. I had a moment of how the fuck is Jessica going to get in?!? and then I remembered. Oh yeah, Genji is here! Hey Genji, can I borrow your key? Of course, my Lady.

A: So there are six people in the first twilight, and five fuckers in this room. Whos going to be sixth?
K: Who is Beatrices love interest?
A: Battler is going to kill someone?

The scene changes to Rosa
A: Hmm, whos going to kill you?
A: Did I predict Rosa?
K: Yeah, you said Rosa and Maria would die
A: Mmm.

Kanon appears
A: Oh, so its Kanons turn. This is some strange mixing Jessica and Kyrie, Kanon and Rosa but I like it!
K: I sometimes feel like these scenes are Ryukishis way of writing two characters interacting who havent interacted much.
A: I appreciate that.
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Eerieka
07/13/19 9:44:54 AM
#100:


The game talks about how Marias father had been using Rosa for money.
A: Yep, shes insane. Well, in a good way
K; Is there anyone in this game whos not insane?
(I say this while the background picture is just a chandelier)
A: Possibly the chandelier?
K: Are you sure? Its furniture.
A: *dies a little inside*

A: When Rosa and Maria had their scenes a few episodes ago, and Rosa was seeing a random man, was that Marias father?
K: Could be. Or it could have been a random dude. I suppose that interpretation is up to you.

Rosa: I wish someone would kill me
A: Kanon should be like well speaking of why Im here!

Furfur and Zepar pop in to say something along the lines of with love, you win or die.
A: Its love, not the Iron Throne!

Game: And that is the most fearsome torture in the world, even for us thousand-year old witches
A: I feel like thats a clue. Any more of a clue, and it would have a blue paw print on it. Hey kids, we found one of Battlers clues! Lets go to the thinking chair!

A: I also feel like these scenes are serving to cut plot threads. Like, we finally got resolution to Kyries drama with Asumu. Now we have resolution to Rosas drama with that random guy. I suppose Eva and Georges scene could have been resolution to finally seeing Eva freak the fuck out about George marrying Shannon?
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