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Board 8 > Rock tries to finally finish Xenoblade Chronicles on the Wii U instead(spoilers)

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Mac Arrowny
02/24/19 2:03:51 PM
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Team Rocket Elite posted...
Do you remember where? IIRC playable characters don't show up on the affinity chart so does an NPC somewhere mention it?


Not sure where, no
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TheRock1525
02/24/19 3:25:14 PM
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Btw I actually don't know a ton about the story in advance other than who Metal Face was and Fiora being alive so don't spoil anything.

Oh and I think Gadolt is a face mechon too? But he hasn't been introduced yet.
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TheRock1525
02/25/19 1:37:46 AM
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Man, getting Fiora back may be an all time satisfying game moment.
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CelesMyUserName
02/25/19 10:38:54 AM
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no lies
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TheRock1525
02/25/19 3:51:32 PM
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You know, at first I was kinda against Mumkhar biting it so soon after his reveal (even though it was obvious even without spoilers) because he was literally the driving force for this entire adventure. Upon reflection, I think it actually makes a lot of sense since everything has escalated and the stakes seem to be bigger. He represented a more naive and simple Shulk trying to fulfill a simple revenge quest, and now Shulk is beyond such concepts. Literally stopping Dunban from murdering him and even going so far as to try and save. It is a really good example of story growth.
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CelesMyUserName
02/25/19 4:33:05 PM
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I love the whole Prison Island to Galahad Fortress section, the affect of Fiora still living is great on Shulk. Before he even fully understands it himself it just starts with the conflict of no longer seeing the Machina as lifeless machines he previously had no concern at all about killing like Xord. Goes well with the next arc humanizing machina further, even Fiora developing a new identify as one but supported by Shulk just being happy to have her back.

Yeah Mumkhar role was done as Shulk's changes to instead seeking to understand Egil... a role Mumkhar couldn't provide as he's just a legit vindictive evil asshole. (in a great way!)
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TheRock1525
02/25/19 9:11:58 PM
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I did not expect the story to be so strong considering how lousy XBX was and mediocre XB2 were.

This is shaping up to be one of my favorite jRPGs to be honest.
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TheRock1525
02/26/19 1:27:13 AM
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Oh and Fiora/Shulk/Dunban absolutely wrecks shit so yeah I finally feel like I can move away from Sharla.
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GuessMyUserName
02/26/19 3:06:28 AM
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Fiora/Shulk/Dunban was my party, recent playthrough I played a bunch more Melia though, replacing Dunban

it's also the most popular party grouping according to the dengeki polls portion of the Monado Archives book I mentioned! The top 9 combinations listed...

17% Shulk / Fiora / Dunban
10% Dunban / Melia / Riki
9% Shulk / Reyn / Sharla
5% Shulk / Dunban / Riki
4% Shulk / Fiora / Melia
3.8% Fiora / Dunban / Riki
3% Shulk / Fiora / Reyn
2.7% Shulk / Fiora / Riki
2.7% Shulk / Melia / Riki

lol sharla
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TheRock1525
02/26/19 8:31:00 PM
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I don't think I've used Riki yet at all.

Poor Heropon.
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mnkboy907
02/26/19 8:37:12 PM
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GuessMyUserName posted...
2.7% Shulk / Melia / Riki

This is me! I was all about that DoT.
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CelesMyUserName
02/26/19 8:49:18 PM
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mnkboy907 posted...
This is me! I was all about that DoT.

gotta craft them blaze/freeze/poison plus gems with triple slotted weapons

TheRock1525 posted...
I don't think I've used Riki yet at all.

already evident by the last post tbqh

TheRock1525 posted...
I finally feel like I can move away from Sharla.

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TheRock1525
02/26/19 8:56:54 PM
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I mean can't you turn Riki into a tank?
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mnkboy907
02/26/19 9:15:16 PM
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CelesMyUserName posted...
gotta craft them blaze/freeze/poison plus gems with triple slotted weapons

I crafted a lot, yes.
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CelesMyUserName
02/26/19 9:22:51 PM
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Riki best just functions as every role at once, with strong DoT skills, a whole 'lotta health, and a pretty fast cooldown party heal art. You can make him more or less tanky depending on your aura use since he's not naturally as good at retaining aggro as Dunban/Reyn, but the healing role isn't that important in Xenoblade so Riki's fine just with his healing art. If you also got Shulk in the party you should be more than satisfying your healing needs.

Actually Fiora can be a pretty good tank with the proper skills (I think requiring her 4th skill tree to boost crit rate, plus linking Dunban's skill for healing on crits).
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TheRock1525
02/26/19 10:03:26 PM
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Yeah but her tanky armor looks terrible.
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CelesMyUserName
02/26/19 10:49:09 PM
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Speed Armour actually still works well like a Dunban! Always a plus to have Unique armour that comes slotted with Haste so you don't have to use a weapon slot, especially when her hit rate is effectively a heal rate for her thanks to the Dunban skill link
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TheRock1525
02/26/19 11:21:29 PM
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I am very confused by everything you said, which is kinda what I disliked when I was first playing it.
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CelesMyUserName
02/26/19 11:52:07 PM
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... have you at all paid attention to the skill tree and the fact you can share a number of skills among characters according to their affinity to each other... I wouldn't be completely surprised so I'm sincerely asking

Dunban has a skill to heal on crits, Fiora has skills to boost her crit rates (plus arts that force crits like Lock-On). Put 'em together, the more Fiora hits stuff the more she heals herself

uhhh as for the bit about haste, Haste gems can only be applied to weapons, but you can find Unique armour (indicated with a U) with fixed gems, and that way you can get a good Haste gem boost from your armour allowing you to use the gem slots on your weapon on other stuff like Double Attack or whatever that can't be put on armour slots.

Fiora has some such Speed Type unique equipment with Haste gems. Other characters can use Glory Gauntlets with Haste slotted to it, which can be farmed from superbosses but I doubt you'll bother about any of that.
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TheRock1525
02/27/19 1:20:03 AM
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I'm just filling up the skill trees. Can you only select one at a time or do you get every skill if its filled?
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GuessMyUserName
02/27/19 2:15:27 AM
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*double-checks FAQ to be sure*

"Once a skill has been learnt it is always active, regardless of whether it is in your current active skill tree or not."

So yeah all the skills are active once they're learned, the Active branch is just about which one you're leveling. Well, that and also each branch a gives certain bonus when it's the active branch, and the bonus is based off of how many skills in that branch you've learned.

Eg. Shulk's skill tree Intuition gives +2 Agility initially, +5 Agility after the first skill is learned, +15 Agility when the fifth/final skill is learned. But only when that branch is active, so when you switch to Humanity you are no longer getting Intuition's agility boost.

... But if you're only filling up the trees then I take it that's a no on the Skill Linking. Uhhh what button was that *googles*

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There, the minus button brings you to the Skill Links page...

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That, for you to share a select few of a character's skills with another, at the cost of Affinity Coins (which you gain for each Unique Monster you defeat, and each level you gain). By "cost" I don't mean that it's a permanent cost, you de-equip a link and you of course get back the Affinity Coins it cost...

As I said, the greater the character's affinity to each other the more skills they can link, but you also have to take note of the shape of the skill too. No character links with diamond-shaped skills since those are meant to be unique to a character, like Riki's Buy Stuff skill that lets you sell things for 20% more $$$. Also Fiora can't learn any Spikey-shaped skills since that's what all the medium/heavy equipment skills are.

....

oh right, without Skill Linking you haven't been able to wear heavy armour for a bunch of characters or even I think Medium armour on Riki >_>... Funny since Melia has a skill that boosts Ether defense from Heavy armour, but she can't wear heavy armour unless you link that skill to her from like Sharla, Reyn, or Dunban!
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Cybat
02/27/19 11:32:44 AM
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Yeah, I remember the whole Skill Link mechanic as being very poorly explained in-game. Took me a while to figure out what it all means. But it's still a great system, really surprised it hasn't come back in the other games in the series.
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foolm0r0n
02/27/19 2:21:36 PM
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TheRock1525 posted...
You know, at first I was kinda against Mumkhar biting it so soon after his reveal (even though it was obvious even without spoilers) because he was literally the driving force for this entire adventure. Upon reflection, I think it actually makes a lot of sense since everything has escalated and the stakes seem to be bigger. He represented a more naive and simple Shulk trying to fulfill a simple revenge quest, and now Shulk is beyond such concepts. Literally stopping Dunban from murdering him and even going so far as to try and save. It is a really good example of story growth.

This is why the story is so damn good. At every point it's totally driven forward by really strong motivations for everyone, but it also continues to evolve those motivations without obsoleting the previous ones.

So many JRPGs will try to escalate from "personal village" to "galactic war" and trample everything in the process, but this one always brings it back to the characters and the growth.
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foolm0r0n
02/27/19 2:23:14 PM
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TheRock1525 posted...
I did not expect the story to be so strong considering how lousy XBX was and mediocre XB2 were.

Imagine playing this game and then hearing there was a sequel with giant transforming robots coming out and it was XBX
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foolm0r0n
02/27/19 2:27:40 PM
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Oh man skill linking was so cool
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TheRock1525
02/27/19 3:36:44 PM
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foolm0r0n posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
I did not expect the story to be so strong considering how lousy XBX was and mediocre XB2 were.

Imagine playing this game and then hearing there was a sequel with giant transforming robots coming out and it was XBX


I mean I've played all three in order and XBX was originally the one I got furthest in until I restarted XB1. Like all three are good games but I'm starting to see a clear hierarchy.
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foolm0r0n
02/27/19 5:18:06 PM
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Where did you stop the first time?
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TheRock1525
02/27/19 5:34:55 PM
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Right after the Xord fight on the Wii version and right after getting Melia in the 3DS version.
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TheRock1525
03/02/19 1:19:11 AM
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Ugh I spent so much time maining Fiora and finishing quests that they took her away and I'm like "oh shit."
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ninkendo
03/02/19 1:20:10 AM
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TheRock1525
03/02/19 1:22:07 AM
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Fiora but it's close.
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GuessMyUserName
03/02/19 1:43:31 AM
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in PxZ2 you don't have to choose because they're a team together!

their interactions together are great and kinda mindblowing
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TheRock1525
03/02/19 9:52:48 PM
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I only played Xenosaga 3.
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TheRock1525
03/03/19 11:30:36 PM
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Also I really like clearing out sidequests now that they're super easy.
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TheRock1525
03/05/19 11:18:17 PM
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I love that even though the game is supposed to have trapped you on the Fallen Arm you can still fast-travel anywhere.

Sometimes segregation of story and gameplay is for the best.
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TheRock1525
03/09/19 7:12:15 PM
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I haven't forgotten about this, just been busy.
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KamikazePotato
03/09/19 9:41:20 PM
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TheRock1525 posted...
I did not expect the story to be so strong considering how lousy XBX was and mediocre XB2 were.

This is shaping up to be one of my favorite jRPGs to be honest.

I consider Xenoblade 1 to be the perfect 'standard' JRPG. Its story is fairly simplistic and shonen-anime esque but it executes it extremely well and the characters all come across as real people. Best of both worlds.
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foolm0r0n
03/12/19 12:50:17 PM
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Yeah I don't think the story feels very anime for the vast majority of it, because it's so focused on the characters and real motivations and developments. Kinda like Avatar. They are still clearly anime by the end, but it's the kind of thing you can easily recommend to someone who has no interest in anime.
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TheRock1525
03/14/19 10:46:57 PM
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I feel so creepy with Fiora in the speed armor.

Like, her literal asscrack is showing. Come the fuck on.
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GuessMyUserName
03/15/19 12:01:28 AM
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good stuff
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ninkendo
03/15/19 12:03:43 AM
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foolm0r0n
03/15/19 10:11:04 AM
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To be fair it's a robot ass
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mnkboy907
03/15/19 1:54:57 PM
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And a robot spine.
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GuessMyUserName
03/15/19 2:09:19 PM
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poor mumkhar lost his tummy just to show off his robot spine

cRQfMOP
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mnkboy907
03/15/19 2:12:51 PM
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Well damn, it looks like he probably lost his junk too. The true crime of the mechon.
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foolm0r0n
03/15/19 4:51:08 PM
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Yeah I don't think any of these mech animes and games address the fact that you can't have sex or anything anymore when you're a robot. Nier does I guess.
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TheRock1525
03/15/19 11:09:51 PM
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if she's a robit, why does she have skin?
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ninkendo
03/16/19 3:56:44 PM
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CelesMyUserName
03/16/19 4:07:32 PM
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fine she's a cyborg
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03/16/19 4:27:54 PM
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