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REMercsChamp
02/11/19 1:57:08 PM
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Look, another in the long line of people who dropped out of university to play video games

https://www.reddit.com/r/NEET/comments/apexzo/dropping_out_of_uni/

Quit falling for this shit
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MI4 REAL
02/11/19 1:58:06 PM
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36, no college
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50Blessings
02/11/19 1:58:57 PM
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It was a waste for me but I don't regret it

I also got out with very little debt though
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Hummer 2
02/11/19 1:59:12 PM
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Wish I had just joined the Mr. Olympia circuit but I was too weak and gay
RedWhiteBlue
02/11/19 2:09:10 PM
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I regret college, failed out, and had no choice if I wanted a roof over my head. Yay for debt and no direction in life. Parents wanted me to get a shitty stressful job just because they feel that money is more important than mental health. If it were up to me I wouldn't have gone to college, just spend the time trying to figure shit out. Too late for that one, I can't do anything with myself, I'm a broken man who gave up. No goals, no hobbies, hopeless.
CableZL
02/11/19 2:10:00 PM
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I dropped out of college after my 1st year. I didn't want to pay another $13k for prerequisite classes I didn't care about.
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Nidhoggr
02/11/19 2:12:40 PM
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RedWhiteBlue posted...
I regret college, failed out, and had no choice if I wanted a roof over my head. Yay for debt and no direction in life. Parents wanted me to get a shitty stressful job just because they feel that money is more important than mental health. If it were up to me I wouldn't have gone to college, just spend the time trying to figure shit out. Too late for that one, I can't do anything with myself, I'm a broken man who gave up. No goals, no hobbies, hopeless.

Just sounds like a lot of excuses to me.
darkphoenix181
02/11/19 2:25:37 PM
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I don't regret it.

Got a job from it.

I could have started writing back then and maybe have published already but then again I could have not done that regardless.

My goal this year is to make a manuscript and try to publish it. If I succeed then I can abandon my degree based job eventually.
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REMercsChamp
02/11/19 2:26:50 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
I don't regret it.

Got a job from it.

I could have started writing back then and maybe have published already but then again I could have not done that regardless.

My goal this year is to make a manuscript and try to publish it. If I succeed then I can abandon my degree based job eventually.

"degree based job"

geez, do you even hear yourself?
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darkphoenix181
02/11/19 2:36:54 PM
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REMercsChamp posted...
"degree based job"

geez, do you even hear yourself?


The job is based on what I got a degree in.

Is that confusing to you because you didn't get college educated?
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REMercsChamp
02/11/19 2:37:58 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
"degree based job"

geez, do you even hear yourself?


The job is based on what I got a degree in.

Is that confusing to you because you didn't get college educated?

Yeah and it's a good thing I didn't, I hate to come across as some sort of college educated elitist
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darkphoenix181
02/11/19 2:39:36 PM
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REMercsChamp posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
"degree based job"

geez, do you even hear yourself?


The job is based on what I got a degree in.

Is that confusing to you because you didn't get college educated?

Yeah and it's a good thing I didn't, I hate to come across as some sort of college educated elitist


So instead you shoot for an anti-education illuminated elitist?
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REMercsChamp
02/11/19 2:40:17 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
"degree based job"

geez, do you even hear yourself?


The job is based on what I got a degree in.

Is that confusing to you because you didn't get college educated?

Yeah and it's a good thing I didn't, I hate to come across as some sort of college educated elitist


So instead you shoot for an anti-education illuminated elitist?

That's right
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darkphoenix181
02/11/19 2:41:24 PM
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REMercsChamp posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
"degree based job"

geez, do you even hear yourself?


The job is based on what I got a degree in.

Is that confusing to you because you didn't get college educated?

Yeah and it's a good thing I didn't, I hate to come across as some sort of college educated elitist


So instead you shoot for an anti-education illuminated elitist?

That's right


Well the difference is I can quit my job and become just like you.

You can't become like me.

So I get best of both worlds.
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REMercsChamp
02/11/19 2:42:49 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
"degree based job"

geez, do you even hear yourself?


The job is based on what I got a degree in.

Is that confusing to you because you didn't get college educated?

Yeah and it's a good thing I didn't, I hate to come across as some sort of college educated elitist


So instead you shoot for an anti-education illuminated elitist?

That's right


Well the difference is I can quit my job and become just like you.

You can't become like me.

So I get best of both worlds.

We'll see about that. The day of reckoning is coming for you college educated types
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darkphoenix181
02/11/19 2:43:48 PM
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REMercsChamp posted...
We'll see about that. The day of reckoning is coming for you college educated types


What does that mean?
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apocalyptic_4
02/11/19 2:44:06 PM
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I dropped out but I definitely dont regret going I had some of the best moments in my life in that time I got alot out of it.

With that said college/university is a waste of time if your going because that's what your supposed to do in life after high school. Kids dont know what they want to do with the rest of their lives so they go and end up dropping out. I'd only reccomend it if the jobs are readily available after and you genuinely want to pursue that career.

Going to college or university for the sake of going because of your peers and parents is wrong.
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REMercsChamp
02/11/19 2:47:47 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
We'll see about that. The day of reckoning is coming for you college educated types


What does that mean?

you'll see
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RedWhiteBlue
02/11/19 2:48:16 PM
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Nidhoggr posted...
RedWhiteBlue posted...
I regret college, failed out, and had no choice if I wanted a roof over my head. Yay for debt and no direction in life. Parents wanted me to get a shitty stressful job just because they feel that money is more important than mental health. If it were up to me I wouldn't have gone to college, just spend the time trying to figure shit out. Too late for that one, I can't do anything with myself, I'm a broken man who gave up. No goals, no hobbies, hopeless.

Just sounds like a lot of excuses to me.

Damn, you sound like a rich kid who never knew what it meant to struggle. But I know that's not the case. So tell me what is it that sounds like an excuse? Depression? Anxiety? Having literally no direction, no hobbies, nothing to motivate me? Btw, after all the effort I put in to pass college, using every resource and getting help, I still failed. I'm the most incompetent person I know, and everyone that knows me can agree with that, except for my dad who also thinks I'm making excuses and not trying, but he doesn't know me on a personal level and I avoid him.
Rexdragon125
02/11/19 2:48:23 PM
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I got a job in my degree. But god my programming teachers were useless. I'm way better than my teachers after a couple years on my programming job.
darkphoenix181
02/11/19 2:48:49 PM
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apocalyptic_4 posted...
With that said college/university is a waste of time if your going because that's what your supposed to do in life after high school. Kids dont know what they want to do with the rest of their lives so they go and end up dropping out. I'd only reccomend it if the jobs are readily available after and you genuinely want to pursue that career.

Going to college or university for the sake of going because of your peers and parents is wrong.


True. Another issue is going to a big university.
Community college is good enough unless you are super driven and want to work at google, but most kids are not.

The idea that you need to go to a fancy state college or ivy league means kids are spending way over their means just to land in the same job they could have got with a smaller city or community college.

But rising prices are disgusting.

I was lucky enough to get my college paid for by grants and scholarship. Ofc, I went to a cheaper college.
But today the price even there is alot higher albeit still cheaper.
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southcoast09
02/11/19 2:49:32 PM
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Obama handed out college degrees like they were coupons, and now that everyone has one, you dont stand out from other applicants because of it.

People with college degrees are working at grocery stores because the market is flooded with applicants who have similar qualifications.

When we were kids, all we heard was, youd better work hard to get into a good college, unless you want to work a crappy job. Now, experience is everything. Someone with no college degree and four years of experience is going to get hired over someone with a degree and no experience.

Then, there is the cost. Every student complains about how expensive it is. If the effort doesnt really help you move on in life, then why waste the time and money? Everyone wants some cushy job working inside at a computer, so now vocational/labor workers are bringing home $60,000+ every year (which they should be). It takes years to pay off college loans and if the degree wont get you a career job, then theres no point.
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50Blessings
02/11/19 2:51:26 PM
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Get in the trades

They're not just for Midwestern hillbillies, believe it or not
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primatepancakes
02/11/19 2:53:41 PM
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darkphoenix181
02/11/19 2:54:55 PM
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REMercsChamp posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
We'll see about that. The day of reckoning is coming for you college educated types


What does that mean?

you'll see


Sadly, robots will be able to replace non-intelluctual work in a few decades.

I actually think it will incite a class war but it depends on how greedy the government and wealthy robot owners will be.

I guess if you a NEET you don't care, but when mom and dad are gone and you have to do some manual labor it will matter.
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REMercsChamp
02/11/19 2:56:41 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
We'll see about that. The day of reckoning is coming for you college educated types


What does that mean?

you'll see


Sadly, robots will be able to replace non-intelluctual work in a few decades.

I actually think it will incite a class war but it depends on how greedy the government and wealthy robot owners will be.

I guess if you a NEET you don't care, but when mom and dad are gone and you have to do some manual labor it will matter.

See - this is the attitude I'm talking about

You college educated types look down on people who sit around and play video games all day while their parents support them
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darkphoenix181
02/11/19 3:00:19 PM
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REMercsChamp posted...
You college educated types look down on people who sit around and play video games all day while their parents support them


Wrong. If UBI was a thing I might do that too off and on.

Thing is though, when you parents get old and need someone to take care of them, the money will run out.
Like what if your dad has an expensive heart procedure? Or gets alzheimers and needs to go into assisted living?

You have no income so you can't repay their kindness.
And you will continue to drain their funds.

How can they retire?
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Twin3Turbo
02/11/19 3:01:24 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
The idea that you need to go to a fancy state college or ivy league means kids are spending way over their means just to land in the same job they could have got with a smaller city ir community college.

I have never understood people's fascination with fancy colleges. I was always like "wait, why go to X school and pay 10x as much if I can go to this nearby state school and it accomplishes the same thing". It Made no sense to me that people regularly go to expensive schools, all to get out and apply for the same $50k a year jobs everyone else was applying for.

I mean, yeah, if you get a full ride to Yale or something, then take it. But I was never going to put myself into serious debt over college. It made much more economic sense to do the above and that route has worked out very well for me. I finished a bachelor and master degree with zero debt, paying with grants, scholarships, and the rest 100% out of my own pocket.

I also don't subscribe to the belief that people that go to these schools are "better" or "smarter". Not going to go into details but I've met plenty of people that I felt were overall not that bright, and they went to those prestigious schools.
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REMercsChamp
02/11/19 3:01:34 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
You college educated types look down on people who sit around and play video games all day while their parents support them


Wrong. If UBI was a thing I might do that too off and on.

Thing is though, when you parents get old and need someone to take care of them, the money will run out.
Like what if your dad has an expensive heart procedure? Or gets alzheimers and needs to go into assisted living?

You have no income so you can't repay their kindness.
And you will continue to drain their funds.

How can they retire?

They aren't going to retire. They had the kid now it's their responsibility to work as long as it takes to support them.
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MACisBack
02/11/19 3:02:01 PM
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I went and completed college got an AS degree and certified as an MA. I don't regret, I'm still paying for it, and I haven't had a chance to use it as my current job makes a lot more than an MA.

I only wish I could have continued college before settling down and having a family. Now, I can't take classes that I need because its during my regular job hours. So, I've been trying to do other things that can compliment that to get me to where I can make more, get a better job, then shift back to school to pursue where I want to go.
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darkphoenix181
02/11/19 3:03:50 PM
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REMercsChamp posted...
They aren't going to retire. They had the kid now it's their responsibility to work as long as it takes to support them.


Quite selfish of you.

They feed and clothe you but must work into their old age.
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REMercsChamp
02/11/19 3:05:02 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
REMercsChamp posted...
They aren't going to retire. They had the kid now it's their responsibility to work as long as it takes to support them.


Quite selfish of you.

They feed and clothe you but must work into their old age.

How's that selfish? If I want to sit around and play video games than it's my right. This is basic human rights. They owe me.
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Dyinglegacy
02/11/19 3:07:54 PM
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I regret it. Not because I went, but because I went into a field that I didn't enjoy. By the time I realized it, I had already inured enough debt for a lifetime.
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NonDairyMiltank
02/11/19 3:11:38 PM
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REMercsChamp posted...
Quit falling for this shit

ironically relevant words for everyone who took this gimmick topic seriously
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darkphoenix181
02/11/19 3:12:18 PM
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REMercsChamp posted...
They owe me.


I hope this is not serious.

Why do they owe you?

When I was in the hospital and had surgery, my mom was there for me. Thanks to my insurance from my job they didn't have to help financially at all.
But if not for her, things might have been worse since the nurse dropped the IV in the sink and was going to use it.
My mom got the head nurse and helped with things like that.

Would your parents not do the same for you?
And what do you do in return?
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M_Live
02/11/19 3:13:44 PM
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As someone who dropped out of college, I regret, because I'm not sure where to find a well-paying career without a college education I have an okay-ish job but I'm finding moving up/forwardto be difficult.
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EvalAngell
02/11/19 3:14:34 PM
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my kids are going to trade school unless they want to become doctors or engineers. no way in hell are they taking out student loans for english or history majors.
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RedWhiteBlue
02/11/19 3:18:37 PM
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EvalAngell posted...
my kids are going to trade school unless they want to become doctors or engineers. no way in hell are they taking out student loans for english or history majors.

The fastest path towards being a successful parent, forcing your kids into a job or field they won't like, you must really want yours- them to be happy.

News flash, going into a meme field can work if they get connections. Most parents don't teach their kids how to network and go places with what they want. So do yourself and your kids a favor, help hem succeed with their passions, not work against them.
primatepancakes
02/11/19 3:55:47 PM
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RedWhiteBlue posted...
EvalAngell posted...
my kids are going to trade school unless they want to become doctors or engineers. no way in hell are they taking out student loans for english or history majors.

The fastest path towards being a successful parent, forcing your kids into a job or field they won't like, you must really want yours- them to be happy.

News flash, going into a meme field can work if they get connections. Most parents don't teach their kids how to network and go places with what they want. So do yourself and your kids a favor, help hem succeed with their passions, not work against them.


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theAteam
02/11/19 3:56:58 PM
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I don't regret it I just wish I didn't spend 2 years at an expensive private school. Could have gotten the same degree at state school for half the price.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
02/11/19 3:58:12 PM
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I dont regret it. The 30k in debt kinda sucks, but I now have my foot in the door for a career.
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Fuparulez
02/11/19 4:01:40 PM
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M_Live posted...
As someone who dropped out of college, I regret, because I'm not sure where to find a well-paying career without a college education I have an okay-ish job but I'm finding moving up/forwardto be difficult.


Trade schools are everywhere. Take some classes and learn how to arc weld.
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Jagr_68
02/11/19 4:05:23 PM
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Sounds way more like their gripes are over degrees that aren't recession-proof or valuable...

Meanwhile in healthcare land, the only thing people could complain about are the long ass hours and workload, not their fast-shrinking college debt.
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JBaLLEN66
02/11/19 4:16:59 PM
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What I regret

I regret going to university right at 18; I should have went to community college or did something else first. Why didn't I? I had to escape my parents house and going to college was the only option I had tbh.

Developing decent study habits in High School. I thought people that made As were just naturally gifted and didn't have to put effort in to studying for an exam or anything.

This one ties in to my second point, but I wish I would've majored in engineering or computer science related. Again, I was scared and sucked at studying :(

I wish I would've went to a cheaper school. Unless you go to a top 60 university, does your undergrad program really matter that much coupled with networking?

Final notes to Ceman in High School: College is a decent option if done correctly. Please don't fall for this new hot entrepreunurship snake oil sales pitch that is floating around youtube and the internet.
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RedWhiteBlue
02/11/19 4:21:00 PM
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primatepancakes posted...
found the liberal arts major

Pre med bio.
JBaLLEN66
02/11/19 4:33:57 PM
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RedWhiteBlue posted...
primatepancakes posted...
found the liberal arts major

Pre med bio.


I love how idiots strawman the death out of college majors. I know a history major that owns a financial analyst business and lives in the Upper East Side of Manhattan.
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Politics
02/11/19 4:35:55 PM
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I'm in grad school and I'm loving it but I have family helping me with the cost including my actual grandparents
rikasa
02/11/19 4:36:49 PM
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i had 3 tries at college. state uni after HS was a mistake. 2-yr vocational degree not a mistake. for-profit college to turn the 2-yr degree into a 4-yr degree was a mistake again
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clearaflagrantj
02/11/19 4:37:21 PM
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College was the best time of my life

Getting drunk every God damn weekend with the BOYS
EdgeMaster
02/11/19 4:46:37 PM
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I dont regret going to college. I would make sure youre going for the right reasons though. Go if you want to be a smarter person and get more life experience but dont go because you think its a good way to make 60k right after you graduate. Youll be real disappointed lol.

That said having a degree opens and closes doors for you.
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