Current Events > Woman arrested for dead naming a transgender female on twitter

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Bass_X0
02/11/19 12:56:36 PM
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https://metro.co.uk/2019/02/11/mum-locked-seven-hours-referring-trans-woman-man-twitter-8519251
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Lordgold666
02/11/19 12:57:02 PM
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Wtf is dead naming?
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Blue_Dream87
02/11/19 12:58:50 PM
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Scottow was accused of a campaign of targeted harassment and of using two Twitter accounts in two different names to harass Hayden.


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Bass_X0
02/11/19 12:59:23 PM
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Lordgold666 posted...
Wtf is dead naming?


If Paul is now Pauline, its deadnaming to refer to her as Paul.
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nemu
02/11/19 1:00:28 PM
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This whole internet policing for "hate crimes" thing over there is so dumb. No matter how heinous, it should not be a police matter unless it involves actual constant harassment or actual threats of harm. Other than that, the block button and the sites themselves should be the only authorities involved.
Mr_Karate_II
02/11/19 1:01:02 PM
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Fair,next. Don't harass people if you don't wanna get in trouble.
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Darkrobotisback
02/11/19 1:02:16 PM
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Bass_X0 posted...
Lordgold666 posted...
Wtf is dead naming?


If Paul is now Pauline, its deadnaming to refer to her as Paul.

My brain hurts.
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Devil_Katt_II
02/11/19 1:02:26 PM
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I am okay with this
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LostForest
02/11/19 1:02:41 PM
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Man the UK is a fucking joke right now. They used to be cool.

Why are there no good first world nations left anymore? Like, you basically have to choose between being arrested for hurting someones feelings or living in fear of being shot on a given day. It's ridiculous.
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King_Hellebuyck
02/11/19 1:04:04 PM
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Blue_Dream87 posted...
Scottow was accused of a campaign of targeted harassment and of using two Twitter accounts in two different names to harass Hayden.


Yeah its weird how the article wants to focus on her children existing rather than what she actually did.
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Caelthus
02/11/19 1:04:46 PM
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LostForest posted...
Man the UK is a fucking joke right now. They used to be cool.

Why are there no good first world nations left anymore? Like, you basically have to choose between being arrested for hurting someones feelings or living in fear of being shot on a given day. It's ridiculous.

Being upset that you can't harass others and spew hateful nonsense, is really, really sad.
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Orlando_Jordan
02/11/19 1:05:35 PM
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LostForest posted...
Man the UK is a fucking joke right now. They used to be cool.

Why are there no good first world nations left anymore? Like, you basically have to choose between being arrested for hurting someones feelings or living in fear of being shot on a given day. It's ridiculous.

Do you prefer peaceful slavery or dangerous freedom? You cant have both.
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fenderbender321
02/11/19 1:05:52 PM
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Policing rudeness? Geeze what's next...a ban on swear words?
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Mr_Karate_II
02/11/19 1:06:37 PM
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Hopefully now she'll be an example of what not to do.
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Lordgold666
02/11/19 1:06:39 PM
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Bass_X0 posted...
Lordgold666 posted...
Wtf is dead naming?


If Paul is now Pauline, its deadnaming to refer to her as Paul.

Oh, misgendering. Got it lol
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Mr_Karate_II
02/11/19 1:07:30 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
Policing rudeness? Geeze what's next...a ban on swear words?

It wasn't just rudeness,it was harassment.
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myzz7
02/11/19 1:07:55 PM
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Funkydog
02/11/19 1:11:43 PM
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People presenting this off to try and show some "far reaching heavy handed" police effort are either maliciously lying or just the type of person easily tricked by not even reading what they are told.

This is a woman who repeatedly harassed and made up false claims about her, over repeat accounts, despite being blocked and warned etc. She deserve being shamed and humiliated over her petty actions.
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nemu
02/11/19 1:14:26 PM
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Mr_Karate_II posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
Policing rudeness? Geeze what's next...a ban on swear words?

It wasn't just rudeness,it was harassment.

It calls it harassment, but I don't see the actual tweets listed anywhere. Given that they're arresting people for internet insults, I would hardly be surprised if their definition of harassment is also completely bonkers.

Harassment would also have to go beyond just Twitter. It takes one second to block an account, so there is no reasonable place in the world where a twitter spat should constitute harassment. It'd be one thing if she was making account after account after account just to screw with the person.
PleaseClap
02/11/19 1:16:10 PM
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Also seems like some doxxing occurred, according to her twitter.

Wonder why TC didnt focus on that
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King_Hellebuyck
02/11/19 1:16:32 PM
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nemu posted...
Mr_Karate_II posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
Policing rudeness? Geeze what's next...a ban on swear words?

It wasn't just rudeness,it was harassment.

It calls it harassment, but I don't see the actual tweets listed anywhere. Given that they're arresting people for internet insults, I would hardly be surprised if their definition of harassment is also completely bonkers.

Harassment would also have to go beyond just Twitter. It takes one second to block an account, so there is no reasonable place in the world where a twitter spat should constitute harassment. It'd be one thing if she was making account after account after account just to screw with the person.

Sounds like you should stop trusting on clickbait meant to enrage you
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Mr_Karate_II
02/11/19 1:16:48 PM
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nemu posted...
Mr_Karate_II posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
Policing rudeness? Geeze what's next...a ban on swear words?

It wasn't just rudeness,it was harassment.

It calls it harassment, but I don't see the actual tweets listed anywhere. Given that they're arresting people for internet insults, I would hardly be surprised if their definition of harassment is also completely bonkers.

Harassment would also have to go beyond just Twitter. It takes one second to block an account, so there is no reasonable place in the world where a twitter spat should constitute harassment. It'd be one thing if she was making account after account after account just to screw with the person.

She made multiple accounts to harass the other woman.
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fenderbender321
02/11/19 1:17:46 PM
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Mr_Karate_II posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
Policing rudeness? Geeze what's next...a ban on swear words?

It wasn't just rudeness,it was harassment.


It was on the internet where you can block people you don't want to listen to....wtf
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fenderbender321
02/11/19 1:19:18 PM
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See I don't like these headlines. She wasn't arrested for that, it sounds like she was arrested for spamming.
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King_Hellebuyck
02/11/19 1:19:43 PM
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Theres a reason this article glosses over what she actually did in order to mention her autistic child.
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Reverend_Wilson
02/11/19 1:19:49 PM
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Goats posted...
Of course all the conservative trolls get their panties in a twist over this, gamefaqs has let them get away with worse.


I'm not conservative, and I think it's dumb.

You NPCs are worse than any conservative trolls.
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Foppe
02/11/19 1:22:28 PM
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There is one thing to forget it once or twice, but to create two accounts just to keep harassing her... that is so wrong.
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SmidgeIsntBack
02/11/19 1:24:13 PM
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Reverend_Wilson posted...
I'm not conservative,


*yawn*
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nemu
02/11/19 1:24:41 PM
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Mr_Karate_II posted...
nemu posted...
Mr_Karate_II posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
Policing rudeness? Geeze what's next...a ban on swear words?

It wasn't just rudeness,it was harassment.

It calls it harassment, but I don't see the actual tweets listed anywhere. Given that they're arresting people for internet insults, I would hardly be surprised if their definition of harassment is also completely bonkers.

Harassment would also have to go beyond just Twitter. It takes one second to block an account, so there is no reasonable place in the world where a twitter spat should constitute harassment. It'd be one thing if she was making account after account after account just to screw with the person.

She made multiple accounts to harass the other woman.

So the police say, but I'd like to actually see the tweets. I'm failing to find any at all. I'm not sure if they're just not archived or if I'm that bad at looking. From articles I can find, it seems they were having a Twitter spat about transgender people. I don't really trust that the police actually have their heads on their shoulders about topics like this given the various idiotic cases there in the last few years.

Now, this lady may be an absolute horrible piece of garbage. I'm not looking to defend her actions if they are truly repulsive. I'm just questioning what is their definition of harassment.
Phantom_Nook
02/11/19 1:25:39 PM
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Blue_Dream87 posted...
Scottow was accused of a campaign of targeted harassment and of using two Twitter accounts in two different names to harass Hayden.

Shhh...
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ultimate reaver
02/11/19 1:26:28 PM
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The article itself says she's being accused of targeted harassment and defamation
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Mr_Karate_II
02/11/19 1:27:38 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
Mr_Karate_II posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
Policing rudeness? Geeze what's next...a ban on swear words?

It wasn't just rudeness,it was harassment.


It was on the internet where you can block people you don't want to listen to....wtf

I guess those who harass others can't make multiple accounts..
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karlpilkington4
02/11/19 1:27:54 PM
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Three police officers arrested a woman in front of her children and locked her up for seven hours after she referred to a transgender woman as a man on Twitter.

Hertfordshire Police said: We take all reports of malicious communication seriously.


Remind me never to go to Hertfordshire. Calling someone a name you dont like, does not justify jail time.
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Foppe
02/11/19 1:29:03 PM
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karlpilkington4 posted...
Three police officers arrested a woman in front of her children and locked her up for seven hours after she referred to a transgender woman as a man on Twitter.

Hertfordshire Police said: We take all reports of malicious communication seriously.


Remind me never to go to Hertfordshire. Calling someone a name you dont like, does not justify jail time.

They didnt arrest her because she said it once, they arrested her for creating multiple twitter accounts just to harass that person, see the difference?
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Mr_Karate_II
02/11/19 1:29:20 PM
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karlpilkington4 posted...
Three police officers arrested a woman in front of her children and locked her up for seven hours after she referred to a transgender woman as a man on Twitter.

Hertfordshire Police said: We take all reports of malicious communication seriously.


Remind me never to go to Hertfordshire. Calling someone a name you dont like, does not justify jail time.

Did you not read the part about harassment?
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ultimate reaver
02/11/19 1:30:24 PM
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With a little bit more digging, she's also apparently a user on Mumsnet which has been in the news lately for targeted transphobia
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karlpilkington4
02/11/19 1:30:28 PM
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Foppe posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
Three police officers arrested a woman in front of her children and locked her up for seven hours after she referred to a transgender woman as a man on Twitter.

Hertfordshire Police said: We take all reports of malicious communication seriously.


Remind me never to go to Hertfordshire. Calling someone a name you dont like, does not justify jail time.

They didnt arrest her because she said it once, they arrested her for creating multiple twitter accounts just to harass that person, see the difference?


Remind me never to go to Hertfordshire. Calling someone a name(s) you dont like, does not justify jail
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Funkydog
02/11/19 1:30:35 PM
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Mr_Karate_II posted...
Did you not read the part about harassment?

Why bother even asking, you know they didn't or don't care.
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spudger
02/11/19 1:31:21 PM
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Blue_Dream87 posted...
Scottow was accused of a campaign of targeted harassment and of using two Twitter accounts in two different names to harass Hayden.


Fair; next
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Duncanwii
02/11/19 1:31:46 PM
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Seems to me that some guys are so transphobic all they see is that the victim is trans so in their mind they are automatically the problem. You cant speak reason with them because they've already decided you're the one in the wrong.
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Delta_F14
02/11/19 1:32:14 PM
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Blue_Dream87
02/11/19 1:32:40 PM
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ultimate reaver posted...
With a little bit more digging, she's also apparently a user on Mumsnet which has been in the news lately for targeted transphobia


The hole gets deeper and deeper
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karlpilkington4
02/11/19 1:33:33 PM
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Mr_Karate_II posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
Three police officers arrested a woman in front of her children and locked her up for seven hours after she referred to a transgender woman as a man on Twitter.

Hertfordshire Police said: We take all reports of malicious communication seriously.


Remind me never to go to Hertfordshire. Calling someone a name you dont like, does not justify jail time.

Did you not read the part about harassment?


What exactly did she do besides call her names? If she threatened them or called for direct acts of violence, then I will be the first to say that the police had the right to do what they did.

None of that is in the article though.
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karlpilkington4
02/11/19 1:38:03 PM
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Harassment synonyms:persecution, harrying, pestering, badgering, intimidation, bother, annoyance, aggravation, irritation, pressure, pressurization, force, coercion, molestation;

Yea, lets just arrest people because they are pestering me. But maybe she molested her over the internet...
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02/11/19 1:38:18 PM
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Mr_Karate_II
02/11/19 1:38:48 PM
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karlpilkington4 posted...
Mr_Karate_II posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
Three police officers arrested a woman in front of her children and locked her up for seven hours after she referred to a transgender woman as a man on Twitter.

Hertfordshire Police said: We take all reports of malicious communication seriously.


Remind me never to go to Hertfordshire. Calling someone a name you dont like, does not justify jail time.

Did you not read the part about harassment?


What exactly did she do besides call her names? If she threatened them or called for direct acts of violence, then I will be the first to say that the police had the right to do what they did.

None of that is in the article though.

So you didn't read the part where she created another account after she was blocked just to continue to harass the other woman?
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Delta_F14
02/11/19 1:40:28 PM
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Mr_Karate_II posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
Mr_Karate_II posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
Three police officers arrested a woman in front of her children and locked her up for seven hours after she referred to a transgender woman as a man on Twitter.

Hertfordshire Police said: We take all reports of malicious communication seriously.


Remind me never to go to Hertfordshire. Calling someone a name you dont like, does not justify jail time.

Did you not read the part about harassment?


What exactly did she do besides call her names? If she threatened them or called for direct acts of violence, then I will be the first to say that the police had the right to do what they did.

None of that is in the article though.

So you didn't read the part where she created another account after she was blocked just to continue to harass the other woman?

So?
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The23rdMagus
02/11/19 1:41:00 PM
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karlpilkington4 posted...
Harassment synonyms:persecution, harrying, pestering, badgering, intimidation, bother, annoyance, aggravation, irritation, pressure, pressurization, force, coercion, molestation;

Yea, lets just arrest people because they are pestering me. But maybe she molested her over the internet...

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karlpilkington4
02/11/19 1:42:23 PM
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Mr_Karate_II posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
Mr_Karate_II posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
Three police officers arrested a woman in front of her children and locked her up for seven hours after she referred to a transgender woman as a man on Twitter.

Hertfordshire Police said: We take all reports of malicious communication seriously.


Remind me never to go to Hertfordshire. Calling someone a name you dont like, does not justify jail time.

Did you not read the part about harassment?


What exactly did she do besides call her names? If she threatened them or called for direct acts of violence, then I will be the first to say that the police had the right to do what they did.

None of that is in the article though.

So you didn't read the part where she created another account after she was blocked just to continue to harass the other woman?


What does twitter have to do with the police? Their TOS are not a law. And calling someone names and thinking that justifies physical violence against you is ****ing ridiculous.

Stop pretending that I didnt read the article, simply because I disagree.
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Solar_Crimson
02/11/19 1:42:27 PM
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Blue_Dream87 posted...
Scottow was accused of a campaign of targeted harassment and of using two Twitter accounts in two different names to harass Hayden.


Yeah, this seems to be the actual issue here.
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