Poll of the Day > What exactly is the point of Americans having to file taxes

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Krazy_Kirby
02/10/19 6:11:32 PM
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Muscles posted...
minervo posted...
Yea it's stupid, there should only be a sales tax, and public services should be paid for by donations so all those internet freaks would stop getting paid as much.

There shouldn't be any taxes

Taxation is theft


how would you pay for police, firefighters, roads, traffic light repairs, etc
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medmuscle
02/10/19 6:58:27 PM
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RoboXgp89 posted...
jeez are americans really this clueless? what do you think military contractors do? protect people?
they get free money to start wars, aquire resources and knock stuff down to build it up again
the military does not need our continued funding
it's extortion with no return unless you're rich
you're giving them money to subjugate other people for the rich in other countries, you get no return on investment unless you own the military contractor companies

so again why should we still be giving them money???
if they aren't getting any money by being in other countries
if they aren't going to protect our own country, or secure our borders than what are they really?
can hardly call them an american army, our founding fathers would be rolling in their graves, its basically what the british were doing


You are 100% objectively correct good sir.

I have no problem paying a REASONABLE amount in taxes. However, it's the gross mismanagement of the money that greaty angers me, along with not having the true freedom that we are supposed to have. "Taxation without representation." So here are the issues:

-Trillions of $$$ go missing under the last 2 DISASTROUS administrations and no one is accountable. But you BETTER file your damn taxes correctly and account for every fucking cent! It's hypocrisy on the grandest of scales!

-Not NEARLY enough liberties and freedoms, because politics and corporations come first at the expense of the people.

-People objectively guilty of treason in the highest of places in government, and not only are they not put to death for being against their superiors (the people), but they get their FULL PAY after retirement, not to mention they are mysteriously multi-millionaires many times over after being in office despite not having a super huge salary.

-Wars started by the US and the bullying third-world countries for more power and resources, yet calling it "brave" and "heroic." Also the media telling outright lies in an attempt to justify these wars to fool dimwitted citizens into thinking it's for the benefit of the people.

I know that we need taxes to pay for stuff. But the thieving of our money for the benefit of the top .1% is an absolute disgusting problem.
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Monopoman
02/10/19 7:35:48 PM
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Lokarin posted...
There should just be an auto-deducted transaction tax... and that's it. Doesn't matter the source, it would equally affect all people and corporations, and poor people who use cash would even be naturally exempt since they aren't using debit/credit/money order/etc

Wouldn't everyone start using cash for most purchases especially large ones?
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Monopoman
02/10/19 7:36:55 PM
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RoboXgp89 posted...
jeez are americans really this clueless? what do you think military contractors do? protect people?
they get free money to start wars, aquire resources and knock stuff down to build it up again
the military does not need our continued funding
it's extortion with no return unless you're rich
you're giving them money to subjugate other people for the rich in other countries, you get no return on investment unless you own the military contractor companies

so again why should we still be giving them money???
if they aren't getting any money by being in other countries
if they aren't going to protect our own country, or secure our borders than what are they really?
can hardly call them an american army, our founding fathers would be rolling in their graves, its basically what the british were doing

Taxes pay for a lot more than just the military.
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Sarcasthma
02/10/19 10:38:13 PM
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You should go off the grid, @Muscles.

PotD would be better off without your shitposting, anyways.
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Monopoman
02/10/19 11:51:45 PM
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Sarcasthma posted...
You should go off the grid, @Muscles.

PotD would be better off without your shitposting, anyways.

Yeah I mean if people really want to live that "no government" lifestyle there are plenty of places out in the middle of nowhere that you will rarely be found.

They had a movie about a family living off the grid last year that was quite good.

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Locke90
02/11/19 12:26:11 AM
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Mead posted...
Locke90 posted...
How else are you going to pay for the welfare of clearly "underpaid" public servants they do nee to afford to live in those rich areas to keep away from the riff raff.


So much to unpack here

I was being sarcastic.
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RoboXgp89
02/11/19 3:01:11 AM
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in ny they have 3million dollar homes
they give us a 5 dollar raise and then give themselves a 15 dollar raise
Mead
02/11/19 3:08:26 AM
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Locke90 posted...
Mead posted...
Locke90 posted...
How else are you going to pay for the welfare of clearly "underpaid" public servants they do nee to afford to live in those rich areas to keep away from the riff raff.


So much to unpack here

I was being sarcastic.


That makes more sense.
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AverageBoss
02/11/19 3:44:40 AM
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medmuscle posted...


-Wars started by the US and the bullying third-world countries for more power and resources, yet calling it "brave" and "heroic." Also the media telling outright lies in an attempt to justify these wars to dimwitted citizens into thinking it's for the benefit of the people.


Well, Eisenhower warned us of the dangers of the military industrial complex throughout and after his presidency. We did not follow his advice unfortunately, and the US has long been a master of propaganda and manipulation (Nazi Germany took many of their notes from us on that front).

As for the actual discussion on filing taxes. The US government nowadays actually has all your tax info long before you file it. There is honestly no reason we should have to file taxes ourselves, and we could very easily adopt Return Free Filing (something even many 3rd world countries have now). Unfortunately the tax preparation companies have made sure that that will not happen.
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