Board 8 > The two worst games ever made are Blizzard games. Mass firings are coming.

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UltimaterializerX
02/12/19 1:28:41 PM
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The thing with WoW is that it does exploration, plot, and immersion very well. I can see why people like it and only an idiot would put it on the level of Hearthstone, Shadow of the Colossus, or Big Rigs. It does good things.

It's just that I have to find 239786 yellow map markers to see any of it, and I cannot overstate how fucking annoying that fanbase was in the 2000s. Turned me off forever.
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ColZach
02/12/19 3:12:06 PM
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Shadow of the Colossus

Oh, lordie....
colliding
02/12/19 3:15:49 PM
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Big rigs was made by Blizzard?

sorry all I'm good for are lame jokes
UltimaterializerX
02/12/19 3:16:52 PM
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ColZach posted...
Shadow of the Colossus

Oh, lordie....

Yeah I'm not a fan.
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ExThaNemesis
02/12/19 3:20:07 PM
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Ulti's anger at Blizzard is weird and kind of insane but the points he makes aren't wrong.
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ExThaNemesis
02/12/19 3:27:57 PM
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Except for where he compared the masterpiece that is SOTC to Big Rigs.
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UltimaterializerX
02/12/19 3:29:53 PM
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ExThaNemesis posted...
Ulti's anger at Blizzard is weird and kind of insane but the points he makes aren't wrong.

They made four perfect games in the 90s. 7 if you count expansions.

Literally overnight they went from one of the best companies to the absolute worst, all because of Activision's influence. One would assume other people would hate this BS, but I constantly see people defending them. It's unreal.
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scarletspeed7
02/12/19 3:32:19 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Literally overnight they went from one of the best companies to the absolute worst, all because of Activision's influence. One would assume other people would hate this BS, but I constantly see people defending them. It's unreal.

No this is Unreal:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3314218/
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ClyTheCool
02/12/19 3:40:26 PM
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So is today firing day?
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ColZach
02/12/19 4:09:47 PM
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ExThaNemesis posted...
Except for where he compared the masterpiece that is SOTC to Big Rigs.


Basically this
ZeroSignal620
02/12/19 4:12:19 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
They made four perfect games in the 90s.


Hold up...

Warcraft II, Diablo, and Starcraft I know. What's the 4th? Blackthorne? Unless you're counting Diablo II
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MoogleKupo141
02/12/19 5:16:55 PM
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Bobby Kotick just said activison had a record year and then fired like 800 people

https://twitter.com/samitsarkar/status/1095435800274194438?s=21

gross!
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ExThaNemesis
02/12/19 5:24:31 PM
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Yeah the real reason they're a shit-tier company is saying they made record money but still decided to lay off 800 workers.

Trash.
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ExThaNemesis
02/12/19 5:32:19 PM
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Like there's no way a company should be able to get away with something like that.

"Oh we had a great year fiscally, all of us in the front office made millions but that's still not enough to save your jobs, sorry about that."

They should be jettisoned into the fucking sun for that alone.
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UltimaterializerX
02/12/19 6:11:39 PM
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ZeroSignal620 posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
They made four perfect games in the 90s.


Hold up...

Warcraft II, Diablo, and Starcraft I know. What's the 4th? Blackthorne? Unless you're counting Diablo II

Diablo 2.
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UltimaterializerX
02/12/19 6:12:59 PM
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MoogleKupo141 posted...
Bobby Kotick just said activison had a record year and then fired like 800 people

https://twitter.com/samitsarkar/status/1095435800274194438?s=21

gross!

Good. 800 trash employees making awful games.
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CoolCly
02/12/19 6:33:18 PM
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Quote from a kotaku article about the layoffs

At Blizzard, the layoffs appear to only have affected non-game-development departments, such as publishing and esports, both of which were expected to be hit hard.


Looks like the devs get to keep creating bad games!
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MoogleKupo141
02/12/19 6:43:49 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
MoogleKupo141 posted...
Bobby Kotick just said activison had a record year and then fired like 800 people

https://twitter.com/samitsarkar/status/1095435800274194438?s=21

gross!

Good. 800 trash employees making awful games.


do you really think any of the people the fired are responsible for the decisions that you think are bad?

it's not like they fired the lead designers of Hearthstone.
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MoogleKupo141
02/12/19 6:48:06 PM
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I mean in your opening post you're like "activison finally noticed the bad job blizzard's doing" and then mention the Diablo Immortal announcement as if that was just a think Blizzard decided to do on their own and not a cash grab they have to make to further line Bobby Kotick's pockets

you're directing your ire in the wrong direction here. Most of the people losing their jobs probably did nothing wrong.
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Drakeryn
02/12/19 7:19:33 PM
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ExThaNemesis posted...
Yeah the real reason they're a shit-tier company is saying they made record money but still decided to lay off 800 workers.

Trash.

ExThaNemesis posted...
Like there's no way a company should be able to get away with something like that.

"Oh we had a great year fiscally, all of us in the front office made millions but that's still not enough to save your jobs, sorry about that."

They should be jettisoned into the fucking sun for that alone.

Yeah all of this.
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UltimaterializerX
02/12/19 7:39:57 PM
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MoogleKupo141 posted...
Most of the people losing their jobs probably did nothing wrong.

They work for Blizzard.
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Snrkiko
02/12/19 7:47:52 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
MoogleKupo141 posted...
Most of the people losing their jobs probably did nothing wrong.

They work for Blizzard.

this is parody right
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VeryInsane
02/12/19 7:49:44 PM
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Most of those people might be able to still get decent tech jobs? It's not like Blizzard is a terrible source for a resume, even in fields outside of gaming, just by name recognition alone
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UltimaterializerX
02/12/19 9:18:02 PM
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VeryInsane posted...
Most of those people might be able to still get decent tech jobs? It's not like Blizzard is a terrible source for a resume, even in fields outside of gaming, just by name recognition alone

Yeah my brother in law was easily able to move to EA after leaving.
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ExThaNemesis
02/12/19 9:19:57 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Yeah my brother in law was easily able to move to EA after leaving.


talk about going from Cancer to AIDS lmao
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Jakyl25
02/12/19 9:27:46 PM
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In 2019 Id rather have AIDS than cancer
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KingButz
02/12/19 10:25:30 PM
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https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/02/activision-blizzard-lays-off-775-people-after-record-results-in-2018/

In the future, Kotick said Activision-Blizzard will invest primarily in live services, Battle.net, and esports, with a focus on the following franchises: Candy Crush, Call of Duty, Overwatch, Warcraft, Diablo, and Hearthstone. For those franchises, Activision actually expects to increase, not reduce, development resources in 2019.

Ulti wrong wrong wrong
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Xiahou Shake
02/12/19 10:35:16 PM
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KingButz posted...
In the future, Kotick said Activision-Blizzard will invest primarily in live services, Battle.net, and esports, with a focus on the following franchises: Candy Crush, Call of Duty, Overwatch, Warcraft, Diablo, and Hearthstone. For those franchises, Activision actually expects to increase, not reduce, development resources in 2019.

Live footage of Blizzard's programmers in 2019:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoAfb3f04mo" data-time="

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HeroicSpiderPig
02/12/19 10:39:09 PM
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Jakyl25 posted...
In 2019 Id rather have AIDS than cancer


You'd rather have HIV. AIDS is definetly worse than cancer.
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UltimaterializerX
02/12/19 11:18:18 PM
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KingButz posted...
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/02/activision-blizzard-lays-off-775-people-after-record-results-in-2018/

In the future, Kotick said Activision-Blizzard will invest primarily in live services, Battle.net, and esports, with a focus on the following franchises: Candy Crush, Call of Duty, Overwatch, Warcraft, Diablo, and Hearthstone. For those franchises, Activision actually expects to increase, not reduce, development resources in 2019.

Ulti wrong wrong wrong

Kotick is on record as saying video games should not be fun. If you think he plans to increase development resources, you are an idiot. Try paying attention to actions instead of words.

Eight HUNDRED people do not get fired for doing a good job. They get fired for being shit at their jobs.
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UltimaterializerX
02/12/19 11:21:02 PM
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https://m.ign.com/articles/2019/02/09/activision-blizzard-reportedly-planning-massive-layoffs

Overwatch and Hearthstone have declining player rates.

Go suck on some crow, @CoolCly.
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CoolCly
02/12/19 11:52:07 PM
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see you on hearthstone buddy
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Metal_DK
02/13/19 12:03:41 AM
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blizzard has been shitty for a while now. WoW kinda ruined them eventually. Once a company goes MMO, its only a matter of time before the decline. WoW was able to keep it looking pretty for a long time, but eventually nah.

Also WoW was shit by end of burning crusade. WotLK gets way too much love
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Nanis23
02/13/19 12:18:00 AM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
https://m.ign.com/articles/2019/02/09/activision-blizzard-reportedly-planning-massive-layoffs

Overwatch and Hearthstone have declining player rates.

Go suck on some crow, @CoolCly.

And yet you keep ignoring the fact they had a record year
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Bartzyx
02/13/19 12:23:07 AM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
KingButz posted...
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/02/activision-blizzard-lays-off-775-people-after-record-results-in-2018/

In the future, Kotick said Activision-Blizzard will invest primarily in live services, Battle.net, and esports, with a focus on the following franchises: Candy Crush, Call of Duty, Overwatch, Warcraft, Diablo, and Hearthstone. For those franchises, Activision actually expects to increase, not reduce, development resources in 2019.

Ulti wrong wrong wrong

Kotick is on record as saying video games should not be fun. If you think he plans to increase development resources, you are an idiot. Try paying attention to actions instead of words.

Eight HUNDRED people do not get fired for doing a good job. They get fired for being shit at their jobs.


lay-offs, not firing. Big difference. And the majority of the lay-offs were not in development teams. If you read the article you would know that.

edit: as to your first claim, that would be securities fraud which Kotick is smart enough not to do.
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UltimaterializerX
02/13/19 4:06:12 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMAUHXXMHPk" data-time="


https://kotaku.com/bobby-kotick-wanted-to-take-all-the-fun-out-of-making-v-5359567

https://kotaku.com/bobby-kotick-warm-and-fuzzy-defends-notorious-no-fun-5474949

Sorry pal, he said it and defended it. That was only a line for INVESTORS, you see. This was back when he was killing off Guitar Hero.

Anyone who defends this man is just an idiot, with one exception. If you are openly rooting for Blizzard to get killed off by Activision in the same way Guitar Hero was, then hes doing a fantastic job. Because fuck Blizzard.
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KingButz
02/13/19 10:03:22 AM
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Sorry i'm too busy paying attention to actions instead of words
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neonreaper
02/13/19 10:46:57 AM
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I feel like if Blizzard did Diablo 2 and LOD *today*, you'd be really upset with their business practices.
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ZeroSignal620
02/13/19 10:58:52 AM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
ZeroSignal620 posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
They made four perfect games in the 90s.


Hold up...

Warcraft II, Diablo, and Starcraft I know. What's the 4th? Blackthorne? Unless you're counting Diablo II

Diablo 2.


Thought so. Technically they did make it in the 90s, so it's not wrong.

Blizzard made some fun games for Super Nintendo though. Notably Blackthorne, Lost Vikings, and Rock N Roll Racing
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igordebraga
02/13/19 11:31:52 AM
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ZeroSignal620 posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
ZeroSignal620 posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
They made four perfect games in the 90s.


Hold up...

Warcraft II, Diablo, and Starcraft I know. What's the 4th? Blackthorne? Unless you're counting Diablo II

Diablo 2.


Thought so. Technically they did make it in the 90s, so it's not wrong.

Blizzard made some fun games for Super Nintendo though. Notably Blackthorne, Lost Vikings, and Rock N Roll Racing


Thanks remembering those! Lost Vikings also had a great sequel. Blizzard put the trio in Heroes of the Storm, so maybe a new game of the series could put them back on track? Or a Rock N Roll Racing remake!
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NowItsAngeTime
02/13/19 11:35:37 AM
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Still waiting for Lost Vikings 3
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WazzupGenius00
02/13/19 12:11:43 PM
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Didn't somebody recently make a sort of Rock n Roll Racing successor and/or ripoff
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UltimaterializerX
02/13/19 7:12:05 PM
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neonreaper posted...
I feel like if Blizzard did Diablo 2 and LOD *today*, you'd be really upset with their business practices.

The only thing in D2 worth complaining about is storage size, and Blizzard was stupid enough to come out and claim increasing this is impossible because it would crash their servers.

This is how 800 people get fired. By being total fucking idiots.
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CoolCly
02/13/19 7:18:45 PM
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i like to blame the stash size in diablo 2 for a lot of things
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red13n
02/13/19 7:31:42 PM
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Activision is undeniably evil here, btw. Should go without saying.
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KingButz
02/13/19 8:04:20 PM
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Ulti is an idiot who can't read
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UltimaterializerX
02/13/19 8:36:30 PM
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KingButz posted...
Ulti is an idiot who can't read

Kotick said it and defended the statement. Period. Facts do not care about your feelings.
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KingButz
02/13/19 10:14:46 PM
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I'm talking about who got laid off. The fact stands that they were mostly not blizzard devs, which seems to be escaping you
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UltimaterializerX
02/13/19 10:17:05 PM
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Nah. Give it time. You can only get by with making shitty games for so long.
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NowItsAngeTime
02/14/19 12:12:21 AM
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It seems like as long as your associate yourself with Blizzard in any capacity you suck and are part of the problem for making bad games
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