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Vlado
02/08/19 5:30:42 AM
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What do you think about Trump's "US will never be socialist"? - Results (6 votes)
I hope he's right, socialism would be bad for the US
50% (3 votes)
3
I hope he's right, socialism would be good for the US, but I'd rather not see it
0% (0 votes)
0
I hope he's wrong, socialism would be good for the US
50% (3 votes)
3
I hope he's wrong, socialism would be bad for the US, but I'd rather see it
0% (0 votes)
0
Don't know/don't care
0% (0 votes)
0
Let's see.
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LordoftheMorons
02/08/19 5:35:32 AM
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Actual socialism would be bad, but the US is nowhere near that and Trump knows absolutely nothing about economic policy and is just regurgitating Republican talking points.
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FlyingForever
02/08/19 5:44:49 AM
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LordoftheMorons posted...
Actual socialism would be bad, but the US is nowhere near that and Trump knows absolutely nothing about economic policy and is just regurgitating Republican talking points.


Says guy knows nothing
Is literally internet warrior vs the president of the United states who begrudgingly is successful inside and outside of his presidency
Ya sure let's take this guys side he clearly knows economics
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OliviaTremor
02/08/19 7:28:29 AM
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Isnt it possible the literal internet warrior is actually intelligent and successful? Doesnt LordoftheMorons have a PhD from Cal Tech?
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UltimaterializerX
02/08/19 8:14:53 AM
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OliviaTremor posted...
Isnt it possible the literal internet warrior is actually intelligent and successful? Doesnt LordoftheMorons have a PhD from Cal Tech?

Book smarts mean jack shit today (you also need common sense, social skills, and street smarts, and youll find that people who bash Trump are lacking in all 3), and he attended Berkeley. Weve seen the kind of people that come from Berkeley.

Anyone who thinks communism is a good idea has no grasp of economics or history.
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Mr Lasastryke
02/08/19 8:25:31 AM
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LordoftheMorons posted...
Actual socialism would be bad,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4" data-time="

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Espeon
02/08/19 8:29:36 AM
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Nothing for option two? Vlado isnt voting in his own poll?
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OliviaTremor
02/08/19 8:32:40 AM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
OliviaTremor posted...
Isnt it possible the literal internet warrior is actually intelligent and successful? Doesnt LordoftheMorons have a PhD from Cal Tech?

Book smarts mean jack shit today (you also need common sense, social skills, and street smarts, and youll find that people who bash Trump are lacking in all 3), and he attended Berkeley. Weve seen the kind of people that come from Berkeley.

Anyone who thinks communism is a good idea has no grasp of economics or history.


Isn't it possible that someone who is book smart also has common sense, social skills and street smarts?
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OliviaTremor
02/08/19 8:34:12 AM
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Just playing the devil's advocate here. Seems like we're quick to denounce anyone we disagree with as an internet warrior whereas we support any internet warrior that we agree with as an intelligent person with street smarts and a great grasp on economics. And while we're at it, is there a metric to measure whether you are proficient in common sense, social skills and street smarts? It seems like having a PhD from a literal top 10 university in the world for a person's field of study is a pretty good metric that the person is smart. What would be the street smarts equivalent? Living in Englewood for a couple years and surviving?
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Kenri
02/08/19 10:21:16 AM
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The US already has tons of socialist programs so really this is just a meaningless talking point. It's meant to make his supporters clap and cheer and feel good and that's about it.
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TheRock1525
02/08/19 10:42:24 AM
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Kenri posted...
The US already has tons of socialist programs so really this is just a meaningless talking point. It's meant to make his supporters clap and cheer and feel good and that's about it.

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ChaosTonyV4
02/08/19 3:26:50 PM
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LordoftheMorons posted...
Actual socialism would be bad


What is "actual socialism" lmao
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foolm0r0n
02/08/19 4:05:50 PM
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It is incredibly socialist right now and has been for decades and will be for the foreseeable future unless some big changes are made.

The poll has absolutely nothing to do with Trump's words because it treats them like a logical statement based in reality. But they are just words that he shat out, like "I could shoot someone on 5th street" or "mexico will pay for it". It's like discussing the nuances of a bobs punching match.
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foolm0r0n
02/08/19 4:07:07 PM
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OliviaTremor posted...
What would be the street smarts equivalent

uoty
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UltimaterializerX
02/08/19 9:10:35 PM
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OliviaTremor posted...
Just playing the devil's advocate here. Seems like we're quick to denounce anyone we disagree with as an internet warrior whereas we support any internet warrior that we agree with as an intelligent person with street smarts and a great grasp on economics. And while we're at it, is there a metric to measure whether you are proficient in common sense, social skills and street smarts? It seems like having a PhD from a literal top 10 university in the world for a person's field of study is a pretty good metric that the person is smart. What would be the street smarts equivalent? Living in Englewood for a couple years and surviving?

Berkeley is top ten for having professors dressing up like thugs and hitting Trump supporters with bike locks. Thats about it. There are mug shots and everything. Pure leftist garbage comes from that university and nothing else.

And given the idiocy of his posts (that I bothered reading before finally blocking the guy) and the massive amounts of radical leftist vomit to come from that university in the past 20 years, I am not impressed. Anyone can attend a radical leftist university and puke up talking points for a few years. Go take a one million dollar loan, succeed in 98% of your business ventures to become a self made billionaire, get famous on TV, and then get elected president running as a republican. Then we can talk about how smart someone is. Hell Ill even take just getting elected senator. Most white people with good credit can get a million dollar loan. Lets see some of this so-called intelligence. I am a self made millionaire. Lets see lotm do the same if hes so brilliant.

Ever notice how the people who are the loudest leftist political voices are the most ignorant people on the planet? Its why no one in the real world likes leftists. I dont mean democrats, either. I mean leftists. They are no longer one in the same.
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UltimaterializerX
02/08/19 9:13:02 PM
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...
LordoftheMorons posted...
Actual socialism would be bad


What is "actual socialism" lmao

You need a phd from Berkeley to figure it out. Us plebs are too dumb to read.
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ChaosTonyV4
02/08/19 9:14:26 PM
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Imagine living in a reality where LOTM is a radical Leftist lmao
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red sox 777
02/08/19 9:19:26 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
OliviaTremor posted...
Just playing the devil's advocate here. Seems like we're quick to denounce anyone we disagree with as an internet warrior whereas we support any internet warrior that we agree with as an intelligent person with street smarts and a great grasp on economics. And while we're at it, is there a metric to measure whether you are proficient in common sense, social skills and street smarts? It seems like having a PhD from a literal top 10 university in the world for a person's field of study is a pretty good metric that the person is smart. What would be the street smarts equivalent? Living in Englewood for a couple years and surviving?

Berkeley is top ten for having professors dressing up like thugs and hitting Trump supporters with bike locks. Thats about it. There are mug shots and everything. Pure leftist garbage comes from that university and nothing else.

And given the idiocy of his posts (that I bothered reading before finally blocking the guy) and the massive amounts of radical leftist vomit to come from that university in the past 20 years, I am not impressed. Anyone can attend a radical leftist university and puke up talking points for a few years. Go take a one million dollar loan, succeed in 98% of your business ventures to become a self made billionaire, get famous on TV, and then get elected president running as a republican. Then we can talk about how smart someone is. Hell Ill even take just getting elected senator. Most white people with good credit can get a million dollar loan. Lets see some of this so-called intelligence. I am a self made millionaire. Lets see lotm do the same if hes so brilliant.

Ever notice how the people who are the loudest leftist political voices are the most ignorant people on the planet? Its why no one in the real world likes leftists. I dont mean democrats, either. I mean leftists. They are no longer one in the same.


LOTM is more like a loud centrist. He steadfastly defends Hillary for taking money from banks to give speeches.

As for Berkeley, I know multiple people who went to school there or taught there and are highly reasonable people, so I disagree with painting with this broad a brush. Of course, the situation in our colleges seems to be deteriorating, and the average college student isn't very intelligent. The average college student who buys into indoctrination is less intelligent than the average student, and the dumbest people are usually the most intolerant of others, because they have the least ability to imagine other points of view.
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MoogleKupo141
02/08/19 9:38:19 PM
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Go take a one million dollar loan, succeed in 98% of your business ventures to become a self made billionaire, get famous on TV, and then get elected president running as a republican. Then we can talk about how smart someone is


ok but I think this topic will have purged by then
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Xiahou Shake
02/08/19 9:54:22 PM
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Kenri posted...
The US already has tons of socialist programs so really this is just a meaningless talking point. It's meant to make his supporters clap and cheer and feel good and that's about it.

Yeah, this one. Also, please use the politics tag. :)
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VintageGin
02/08/19 10:05:35 PM
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didn't ulti get his money from falling outside a grocery store or something

or was it just his wife's money

I feel like it was one of the two
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foolm0r0n
02/08/19 10:08:12 PM
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MoogleKupo141 posted...
ok but I think this topic will have purged by then

#bump#
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UltimaterializerX
02/08/19 10:09:27 PM
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Xiahou Shake posted...
Kenri posted...
The US already has tons of socialist programs so really this is just a meaningless talking point. It's meant to make his supporters clap and cheer and feel good and that's about it.

Yeah, this one. Also, please use the politics tag. :)

This too, I have this shit blocked for a reason.
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foolm0r0n
02/08/19 10:09:33 PM
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VintageGin posted...
didn't ulti get his money from falling outside a grocery store or something

or was it just his wife's money

I feel like it was one of the two

Ulti got about 3 mil yeah

So he'll be a triple billionaire soon enough, unless he's literally dumber than Trump
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LordoftheMorons
02/08/19 10:09:57 PM
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Imagine living in a reality where LOTM is a radical Leftist lmao

Well, Ulti is a self made millionaire so I think hed know better than me or you...!
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MoogleKupo141
02/08/19 10:13:46 PM
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if lotm was smart he'd fall down outside of grocery stores too

that's street smarts
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Tom Bombadil
02/08/19 10:16:35 PM
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wouldn't it be more like parking lot smarts
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UltimaterializerX
02/08/19 10:19:16 PM
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VintageGin posted...
didn't ulti get his money from falling outside a grocery store or something

or was it just his wife's money

I feel like it was one of the two

You people have some awful memories.
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Mr Lasastryke
02/09/19 8:50:29 AM
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the funniest thing about this topic is probably ulti insisting that you have to be smart to become famous on television
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FlyingForever
02/09/19 10:26:36 AM
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Mr Lasastryke posted...
the funniest thing about this topic is probably ulti insisting that you have to be smart to become famous on television


Maybe hes never watched television
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DoomTheGyarados
02/09/19 11:35:12 AM
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I can back up the fact that LordOfTheMorons is smart, he is a big fan of the Dragon Quest series which is all I personally need to know.
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UltimaterializerX
02/09/19 11:37:42 AM
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DoomTheGyarados posted...
I can back up the fact that LordOfTheMorons is smart, he is a big fan of the Dragon Quest series which is all I personally need to know.

A fair counterpoint.
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OliviaTremor
02/09/19 11:38:30 AM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
OliviaTremor posted...
Just playing the devil's advocate here. Seems like we're quick to denounce anyone we disagree with as an internet warrior whereas we support any internet warrior that we agree with as an intelligent person with street smarts and a great grasp on economics. And while we're at it, is there a metric to measure whether you are proficient in common sense, social skills and street smarts? It seems like having a PhD from a literal top 10 university in the world for a person's field of study is a pretty good metric that the person is smart. What would be the street smarts equivalent? Living in Englewood for a couple years and surviving?

Berkeley is top ten for having professors dressing up like thugs and hitting Trump supporters with bike locks. Thats about it.


Ulti I like you but this is so factually wrong and stupid I stopped reading your comment.
https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/university-of-california-berkeley-110635/overall-rankings
You can also look at Times Higher Education where it is ranked 15, ARWU where it is ranked 5, etc. But you won't, or you'll try to discredit it.
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red sox 777
02/09/19 12:47:52 PM
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OliviaTremor posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
OliviaTremor posted...
Just playing the devil's advocate here. Seems like we're quick to denounce anyone we disagree with as an internet warrior whereas we support any internet warrior that we agree with as an intelligent person with street smarts and a great grasp on economics. And while we're at it, is there a metric to measure whether you are proficient in common sense, social skills and street smarts? It seems like having a PhD from a literal top 10 university in the world for a person's field of study is a pretty good metric that the person is smart. What would be the street smarts equivalent? Living in Englewood for a couple years and surviving?

Berkeley is top ten for having professors dressing up like thugs and hitting Trump supporters with bike locks. Thats about it.


Ulti I like you but this is so factually wrong and stupid I stopped reading your comment.
https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/university-of-california-berkeley-110635/overall-rankings
You can also look at Times Higher Education where it is ranked 15, ARWU where it is ranked 5, etc. But you won't, or you'll try to discredit it.


Those aren't mutually exclusive.
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Forceful_Dragon
02/09/19 1:10:00 PM
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When you conclude with "that's about it" you are excluding the school from being good at other things.

So yes, he was excluding.
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Vlado
02/10/19 3:23:09 AM
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Interesting results so far.
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foolm0r0n
02/10/19 9:50:10 PM
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What's interesting?
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pjbasis
02/10/19 9:56:40 PM
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OliviaTremor posted...
And while we're at it, is there a metric to measure whether you are proficient in common sense, social skills and street smarts?


From from what I gathered watching a Jordan Peterson video it seems that's all IQ.

And that whether you have a phd or not depends a little but not a lot on that
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Vlado
02/11/19 5:42:57 AM
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TheRock1525 posted...
Kenri posted...
The US already has tons of socialist programs

foolm0r0n posted...
It is incredibly socialist right now and has been for decades

lmfao, imagine actually believing this. I'm realising more and more how right Lasa is about US politics. No wonder US liberals consider a centrist like Trump a "literal nazi," and US conservatives consider a neoliberal like Obama a communist.
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Mr Lasastryke
02/11/19 9:50:18 AM
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yeah, foolmo is an anarchist so he calls any country with a political system that isn't 100% anarchy "socialist."

i'm a bit confused by kenri's post, though. not sure how the US has "tons of socialist programs." i can only see this being true if you're saying that any governmental program designed to help the poor is automatically socialist.
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MoogleKupo141
02/11/19 11:14:59 AM
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you're saying that any governmental program designed to help the poor is automatically socialist.


yes that is it
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foolm0r0n
02/11/19 11:27:12 AM
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Vlado posted...
lmfao, imagine actually believing this

Imagine not knowing this but still spending your whole life online arguing about US politics as if you know wtf you're talking about. Or in fewer words, imagine being European.

Y'all are the kind of people who say the US just needs to spend more money on healthcare and education to make it free for everyone. To follow the Scandinavian model which is such proof that socialism works.
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Underleveled
02/11/19 11:27:27 AM
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I hope he's right, socialism would be good for the US, but I'd rather not see it

I hope he's wrong, socialism would be bad for the US, but I'd rather see it


Please humor me, what exactly is the point of poll options such as these?
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Mr Lasastryke
02/11/19 11:31:42 AM
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MoogleKupo141 posted...
yes that is it


so hillary is a socialist? she's in favor of such programs.
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Espeon
02/11/19 11:32:38 AM
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Underleveled posted...
I hope he's right, socialism would be good for the US, but I'd rather not see it

I hope he's wrong, socialism would be bad for the US, but I'd rather see it


Please humor me, what exactly is the point of poll options such as these?


Well Vlado voted for the first one. Its basically I want the U.S. to suffer and fail.
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Mythiot
02/11/19 11:35:15 AM
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Underleveled posted...
I hope he's right, socialism would be good for the US, but I'd rather not see it

I hope he's wrong, socialism would be bad for the US, but I'd rather see it


Please humor me, what exactly is the point of poll options such as these?

My guess is that Vlado thinks someone will outright say they want the U.S. to fail so *insert boogyman here* can rise up and take over.
MoogleKupo141
02/11/19 11:49:44 AM
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Mr Lasastryke posted...
MoogleKupo141 posted...
yes that is it


so hillary is a socialist? she's in favor of such programs.


she supports some socialist stuff, sure
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Mr Lasastryke
02/11/19 11:51:46 AM
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well, you're wrong regardless.

a program designed to get poor people jobs is not socialist, for instance.
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Mr Lasastryke
02/11/19 12:08:58 PM
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also, if hillary supports socialist stuff, i'm not sure how lordofthemorons manages to combine "socialism is bad" and "hillary is fantastic and would have been an amazing president."
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TheRock1525
02/11/19 12:11:45 PM
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I mean Trump supports socialist policies so I don't see the problem.
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