Poll of the Day > This New Green Deal is a fast track to the United States going third-world

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TheWorstPoster
02/07/19 7:20:40 PM
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DirtBasedSoap
02/07/19 7:22:18 PM
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you know nothing about how the world actually works though, dude
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TheWorstPoster
02/07/19 7:24:24 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
you know nothing about how the world actually works though, dude


So, what you're saying is, a bill that will try to eliminate air travel, tear down and rebuild practically EVERY major building in the country, eliminate "cow farts", and spending tens, if not hundreds of TRILLIONS of dollars all for something which not only does the Sun does naturally, but it is all for waste due to the pollution caused mainly by China, India, and Russia, simply for virtue signalling?
_AdjI_
02/07/19 7:24:55 PM
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inb4a bunch of people explain that you're wrong and don't understand what you're talking about, and you reply with a series of similarly-clueless non sequiturs that completely ignore the points raised against your position.
_AdjI_
02/07/19 7:25:17 PM
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Bah. 31 seconds too slow.
Oops_All_Berrys
02/07/19 7:28:54 PM
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The Earth is dying you fuckwad
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Hop103
02/07/19 7:29:47 PM
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The guaranteed job proposal will destroy America, not to mention create shortages, trust me not many people want to work dangerous jobs that aren't the usual plumber, oil and gas worker, and those in the electrical and energy fields.
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SunWuKung420
02/07/19 7:30:16 PM
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As if an entire third world isn't inevitable.
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TheWorstPoster
02/07/19 7:39:02 PM
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Oops_All_Berrys posted...
The Earth is dying you fuckwad


Dying how?
DirtBasedSoap
02/07/19 7:42:40 PM
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TheWorstPoster posted...
DirtBasedSoap posted...
you know nothing about how the world actually works though, dude


So, what you're saying is, a bill that will try to eliminate air travel, tear down and rebuild practically EVERY major building in the country, eliminate "cow farts", and spending tens, if not hundreds of TRILLIONS of dollars all for something which not only does the Sun does naturally, but it is all for waste due to the pollution caused mainly by China, India, and Russia, simply for virtue signalling?

what? way to prove my point lmao
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DirtBasedSoap
02/07/19 7:44:47 PM
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if you think anything youve said doesnt come off across as homeless crackhead rambling on a street corner-esque, youre delusional
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Cacciato
02/07/19 7:46:04 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
you know nothing about how the world actually works though, dude

Fucking Christ, this.

I dont know how he expects anyone to take a 30 year old man whos never worked a day in his life seriously. Especially from opinions hes formed solely through a computer screen.
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ParanoidObsessive
02/07/19 7:48:07 PM
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Oops_All_Berrys posted...
The Earth is dying you fuckwad

The Earth will be perfectly fine no matter what humans do to it. It's recovered from far worse than anything we've ever been capable of doing multiple times. Even detonating every nuke that has ever existed at the same time spread equally across the globe would only inconvenience it for what is, to its perception, a momentary eyeblink.

The only thing we really control is how easy or difficult we're making it for future generations of humans to live here. Environmentalism is, at heart, trying to maximize our own capacity to survive as a species.


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shadowsword87
02/07/19 7:48:10 PM
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TheWorstPoster posted...
if not hundreds of TRILLIONS of dollars all for something which not only does the Sun does naturally


Oh, let's just go to the sun and scoop some of that for Earth then.
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Marcster1994
02/07/19 11:51:19 PM
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South Park is right. We just are too selfish to lower usage of things.
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Unbridled9
02/08/19 1:48:59 AM
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I approve of trying to help America 'go green'. I think AOC's 'Green New Deal' is freaking idiotic. I mean the cost of just upgrading the houses alone would likely bankrupt America. It's just... no.

I don't know why American's seem to think this, but places like China, India, and Russia also provide a ton of pollution, yet they seem to think that America is the ONLY place in the world and solely responsible for global warming. America could go entirely green tomorrow and the situation would likely not be 'cured'. Not that it wouldn't be a huge step in the right direction, just that the problem is larger and more complicated than people think.

For example, making everyone drive electric cars would cut down on exhaust by a lot, but it also would mean power plants would need to provide a lot more energy which means new plants would need to be built. It's not that simple.

Keep in mind, I am in no way claiming we shouldn't do things. Like, for example, the city I live in is about to ban plastic bags. So that means people will need to either use paper or bring their own re-usable bags. Ignoring how hard it can be to get people to do the latter, it means that either more trees need to be chopped down to provide the paper or more energy and resources need to be consumed per-bag. I'm not saying it won't help, especially in regards to reducing pollution, but thinking it's some panacea is foolish.

IMO, the best thing that the U.S. could do is find ways to reduce the amount of methane produced by cattle since it's both a massive industry and responsible for a lot of air pollution. Following that providing programs to improve renewable energy plants capabilities and spread along with some other things would likely go a loooong way towards helping the future. Not to mention things like Nuclear Power which can be a massive boon so long as it's properly handled.
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Kyuubi4269
02/08/19 3:07:26 AM
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If 1 trillion was invested in fusion, it'd basically do this.
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ClarkDuke
02/08/19 3:42:29 AM
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_AdjI_ posted...
inb4a bunch of people explain that you're wrong and don't understand what you're talking about, and you reply with a series of similarly-clueless non sequiturs that completely ignore the points raised against your position.

Exactly, sit down Nathan, you were sounding reasonable for a short period - don't be Zeus, for Christ sake, ok?
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TheWorstPoster
02/08/19 8:44:09 AM
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Cacciato
02/08/19 8:46:47 AM
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TheWorstPoster posted...
http://thefederalist.com/2019/02/07/ten-most-insane-requirements-green-new-deal/

Do you realize the irony in you posting that, due to point #9?
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PyroBlade1985
02/08/19 9:51:46 AM
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Yeah this deal is dumb.
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GastroFan
02/08/19 10:08:50 AM
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Unbridled9 posted...
I approve of trying to help America 'go green'. I think AOC's 'Green New Deal' is freaking idiotic. I mean the cost of just upgrading the houses alone would likely bankrupt America. It's just... no.

I don't know why American's seem to think this, but places like China, India, and Russia also provide a ton of pollution, yet they seem to think that America is the ONLY place in the world and solely responsible for global warming. America could go entirely green tomorrow and the situation would likely not be 'cured'. Not that it wouldn't be a huge step in the right direction, just that the problem is larger and more complicated than people think.

For example, making everyone drive electric cars would cut down on exhaust by a lot, but it also would mean power plants would need to provide a lot more energy which means new plants would need to be built. It's not that simple.

Keep in mind, I am in no way claiming we shouldn't do things. Like, for example, the city I live in is about to ban plastic bags. So that means people will need to either use paper or bring their own re-usable bags. Ignoring how hard it can be to get people to do the latter, it means that either more trees need to be chopped down to provide the paper or more energy and resources need to be consumed per-bag. I'm not saying it won't help, especially in regards to reducing pollution, but thinking it's some panacea is foolish.

IMO, the best thing that the U.S. could do is find ways to reduce the amount of methane produced by cattle since it's both a massive industry and responsible for a lot of air pollution. Following that providing programs to improve renewable energy plants capabilities and spread along with some other things would likely go a loooong way towards helping the future. Not to mention things like Nuclear Power which can be a massive boon so long as it's properly handled.


The problem is that someone has to take the lead in promoting 'green' technology. To quote Maggie Thatcher, 'if not the US, then who?' is the right question. If the US can get this to work out right, other countries would follow our example, even if only on a few things. That's better than sitting around and doing nothing while the summers get hotter, wetter and storms get nastier by the year, or there's more frequent cold snaps and blizzards. While we can't go back to being an agrarian society or to where cars didn't exist, we can set an example for the rest of the world as to how to live greener.
kangolcone
02/08/19 11:02:58 AM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
Oops_All_Berrys posted...
The Earth is dying you fuckwad

The Earth will be perfectly fine no matter what humans do to it. It's recovered from far worse than anything we've ever been capable of doing multiple times. Even detonating every nuke that has ever existed at the same time spread equally across the globe would only inconvenience it for what is, to its perception, a momentary eyeblink.

The only thing we really control is how easy or difficult we're making it for future generations of humans to live here. Environmentalism is, at heart, trying to maximize our own capacity to survive as a species.



I dont think you and I have the same definition of perfectly fine.
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kangolcone
02/08/19 11:05:17 AM
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Id also like to point out that these are goals listed in a Non-binding resolution, but its much easier to scream and be mad when you pretend something is a mandate instead of a suggestion.

Also the people complaining about cost should look at some of the projections of what continued climate change will be.
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skullbone
02/08/19 11:05:41 AM
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Yeah I also don't understand the mindset of

"well this might HELP the problem it isn't going to COMPLETELY SOLVE IT so what's the point?"
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papercup
02/08/19 11:11:10 AM
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It's going to phase out nuclear, the greenest energy source we have. The fuck is the point of this thing.
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_AdjI_
02/08/19 11:25:13 AM
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kangolcone posted...
ParanoidObsessive posted...
Oops_All_Berrys posted...
The Earth is dying you fuckwad

The Earth will be perfectly fine no matter what humans do to it. It's recovered from far worse than anything we've ever been capable of doing multiple times. Even detonating every nuke that has ever existed at the same time spread equally across the globe would only inconvenience it for what is, to its perception, a momentary eyeblink.

The only thing we really control is how easy or difficult we're making it for future generations of humans to live here. Environmentalism is, at heart, trying to maximize our own capacity to survive as a species.



I dont think you and I have the same definition of perfectly fine.


Broadly, the Earth doesn't care what we do to it. No matter how badly we screw it up, once humans are all dead, life will continue to evolve and adapt and carry on without us. Short of literally blowing the planet up, the Earth will recover from whatever humans do.
kangolcone
02/08/19 11:27:51 AM
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_AdjI_ posted...
kangolcone posted...
ParanoidObsessive posted...
Oops_All_Berrys posted...
The Earth is dying you fuckwad

The Earth will be perfectly fine no matter what humans do to it. It's recovered from far worse than anything we've ever been capable of doing multiple times. Even detonating every nuke that has ever existed at the same time spread equally across the globe would only inconvenience it for what is, to its perception, a momentary eyeblink.

The only thing we really control is how easy or difficult we're making it for future generations of humans to live here. Environmentalism is, at heart, trying to maximize our own capacity to survive as a species.



I dont think you and I have the same definition of perfectly fine.


Broadly, the Earth doesn't care what we do to it. No matter how badly we screw it up, once humans are all dead, life will continue to evolve and adapt and carry on without us. Short of literally blowing the planet up, the Earth will recover from whatever humans do.


Like I said, I dont think we have the same definition.

If somebody gets very bad cancer, but then eventually recovers, they arent perfectly fine. They survived. They may not be dead, but thats not the same as perfectly fine to me.
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kangolcone
02/08/19 11:29:07 AM
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papercup posted...
It's going to phase out nuclear, the greenest energy source we have. The fuck is the point of this thing.


Because as we know nuclear power has always been incredibly safe and has never had devestating environmental impacts when things go wrong.
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Lokarin
02/08/19 11:31:11 AM
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kangolcone posted...
papercup posted...
It's going to phase out nuclear, the greenest energy source we have. The fuck is the point of this thing.


Because as we know nuclear power has always been incredibly safe and has never had devestating environmental impacts when things go wrong.


devastating evironmental impacts, yes - but is incredibly safe. There have been 3 major nuclear disasters (Chernobyl, Fukushima and i can't remember the other one), 3 in 50 years.

Now count the number of coal fires, oil spills, acetylene/propane explosions and, if you're canadian, "omg, all the birds dying in the wind turbines!"
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_AdjI_
02/08/19 11:54:11 AM
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kangolcone posted...
_AdjI_ posted...
kangolcone posted...
ParanoidObsessive posted...
Oops_All_Berrys posted...
The Earth is dying you fuckwad

The Earth will be perfectly fine no matter what humans do to it. It's recovered from far worse than anything we've ever been capable of doing multiple times. Even detonating every nuke that has ever existed at the same time spread equally across the globe would only inconvenience it for what is, to its perception, a momentary eyeblink.

The only thing we really control is how easy or difficult we're making it for future generations of humans to live here. Environmentalism is, at heart, trying to maximize our own capacity to survive as a species.



I dont think you and I have the same definition of perfectly fine.


Broadly, the Earth doesn't care what we do to it. No matter how badly we screw it up, once humans are all dead, life will continue to evolve and adapt and carry on without us. Short of literally blowing the planet up, the Earth will recover from whatever humans do.


Like I said, I dont think we have the same definition.

If somebody gets very bad cancer, but then eventually recovers, they arent perfectly fine. They survived. They may not be dead, but thats not the same as perfectly fine to me.


A cancer survivor will carry scars of their ordeal (physical, emotional, or otherwise) that will affect their life afterwards. By comparison, though, humanity will leave no significant scars on the earth. There'll be traces, certainly, but nothing that's significant enough to interfere with what the earth would have been doing if we'd never existed.
kangolcone
02/08/19 12:10:18 PM
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_AdjI_ posted...
kangolcone posted...
_AdjI_ posted...
kangolcone posted...
ParanoidObsessive posted...
Oops_All_Berrys posted...
The Earth is dying you fuckwad

The Earth will be perfectly fine no matter what humans do to it. It's recovered from far worse than anything we've ever been capable of doing multiple times. Even detonating every nuke that has ever existed at the same time spread equally across the globe would only inconvenience it for what is, to its perception, a momentary eyeblink.

The only thing we really control is how easy or difficult we're making it for future generations of humans to live here. Environmentalism is, at heart, trying to maximize our own capacity to survive as a species.



I dont think you and I have the same definition of perfectly fine.


Broadly, the Earth doesn't care what we do to it. No matter how badly we screw it up, once humans are all dead, life will continue to evolve and adapt and carry on without us. Short of literally blowing the planet up, the Earth will recover from whatever humans do.


Like I said, I dont think we have the same definition.

If somebody gets very bad cancer, but then eventually recovers, they arent perfectly fine. They survived. They may not be dead, but thats not the same as perfectly fine to me.


A cancer survivor will carry scars of their ordeal (physical, emotional, or otherwise) that will affect their life afterwards. By comparison, though, humanity will leave no significant scars on the earth. There'll be traces, certainly, but nothing that's significant enough to interfere with what the earth would have been doing if we'd never existed.


If the glaciers continue to melt and flood low lying coastal areas, thats not a scar to you? Like Ive said now three times, I just dont think we have the same definition of perfectly fine.
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kangolcone
02/08/19 12:11:44 PM
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I guess the oceans becoming increasingly acidic is just part of the perfectly fine part.
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TheWorstPoster
02/08/19 12:25:45 PM
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I would assume that Russia and China would BOTH would be cheering if we ever did this.

Because it would destroy us and rid them of an annoying pest and make those two countries the most powerful in the world, and would allow them to do whatever they want.
TheWorstPoster
02/08/19 12:27:18 PM
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papercup posted...
It's going to phase out nuclear, the greenest energy source we have. The fuck is the point of this thing.


Because of Chernobyl (because Soviet technology was SO advanced to begin with), and Three Mile Island (which emits less radiation than what your laptop or smartphone is emitting right now).
BUMPED2002
02/08/19 12:28:07 PM
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TheWorstPoster posted...
https://www.businessinsider.com/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-green-new-deal-legislation-2019-2

This cannot end well if it ever goes through


More conservative BS! Keep this in mind long before most of us were even thought of, corporate America in the mid 1970s began instituting corporate coup d'etat in which manufacturing jobs that had thrived in America from the end of WW2 until the 1970s began being offshored and outsourced in search of cheaper labor (remember America has been searching for cheap labor since slavery ended) and once that happened, America's economy which had been largely manufacturing based began turning into the service oriented economy we now have today hence there's only a handful of decent paying manufacturing jobs left in America and the rest are jibs like Amazon, UPS, Fast Food, etc etc.

The corporate coup d'etat is now wholly complete and America was left with "sacrifice zones" cities in which all economic development has ceased leaving behind decay and ruin in the form of abandoned buildings and manufacturing sites where people once worked and thrived and kept their communities alive.

That all changed and it ain't coming back!
Kyuubi4269
02/08/19 12:29:18 PM
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If the earth happens to be an aliens love bead and we're engulfed in space anus we would be scarred, doesn't mean it'll happen though.
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HelIWithoutSin
02/08/19 12:31:28 PM
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TheWorstPoster posted...
papercup posted...
It's going to phase out nuclear, the greenest energy source we have. The fuck is the point of this thing.


Because of Chernobyl (because Soviet technology was SO advanced to begin with), and Three Mile Island (which emits less radiation than what your laptop or smartphone is emitting right now).


But you just said Russia and China are out to get us. Doesn't that include blowing up our nuclear plants? And what about the terrorists? They're gonna blow them up too, aren't they? And the illegal immigrants are going to steal all the nuclear tech jobs and have babies all over the plants, right?
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ASlaveObeys
02/08/19 12:33:00 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
Oops_All_Berrys posted...
The Earth is dying you fuckwad

The Earth will be perfectly fine no matter what humans do to it. It's recovered from far worse than anything we've ever been capable of doing multiple times. Even detonating every nuke that has ever existed at the same time spread equally across the globe would only inconvenience it for what is, to its perception, a momentary eyeblink.

The only thing we really control is how easy or difficult we're making it for future generations of humans to live here. Environmentalism is, at heart, trying to maximize our own capacity to survive as a species.


You're totally right, but I'm for not fucking up the future. I used to be a "not my problem I don't like people" kinda guy then I thought about it and figure why not at least try a little.
_AdjI_
02/08/19 12:37:10 PM
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kangolcone posted...
If the glaciers continue to melt and flood low lying coastal areas, thats not a scar to you?


Nope. Within a million years, none of that will matter at all. Odds are, some of those areas would end up flooding anyway in that time frame, since the planet's climate does fluctuate naturally (just not to the extent it has in the past hundred or so years).

Now, bear in mind that "perfectly fine" does not in any way mean "humans and the vast majority of current life won't all die horribly." If we keep this up, we're screwed, and so are most of the animals and plants we recognize. The Earth that would be left after the dust settled would not be the Earth we live on today. But that doesn't mean the Earth won't be able to continue operating exactly as it has for the past 4.5 billion years.
Detective__pika
02/08/19 1:03:31 PM
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TheWorstPoster posted...
DirtBasedSoap posted...
you know nothing about how the world actually works though, dude


So, what you're saying is, a bill that will try to eliminate air travel, tear down and rebuild practically EVERY major building in the country, eliminate "cow farts", and spending tens, if not hundreds of TRILLIONS of dollars all for something which not only does the Sun does naturally, but it is all for waste due to the pollution caused mainly by China, India, and Russia, simply for virtue signalling?


Oh so youre Alt right. *dismisses post*
kangolcone
02/08/19 1:11:19 PM
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_AdjI_ posted...
kangolcone posted...
If the glaciers continue to melt and flood low lying coastal areas, thats not a scar to you?


Nope. Within a million years, none of that will matter at all. Odds are, some of those areas would end up flooding anyway in that time frame, since the planet's climate does fluctuate naturally (just not to the extent it has in the past hundred or so years).

Now, bear in mind that "perfectly fine" does not in any way mean "humans and the vast majority of current life won't all die horribly." If we keep this up, we're screwed, and so are most of the animals and plants we recognize. The Earth that would be left after the dust settled would not be the Earth we live on today. But that doesn't mean the Earth won't be able to continue operating exactly as it has for the past 4.5 billion years.


You know surgical scars fade over time too? Just because there was an injury that fades over time again doesnt mean perfectly fine. If the oceans continue to turn acidic at a faster and faster rate as they currently are thats not the Earth operating as it always has.

So for a fourth time, I just dont think we have the same definition of perfectly fine since its clearly being dramatically altered beyond the natural changes which also occur over time.
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papercup
02/08/19 1:12:57 PM
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kangolcone posted...
papercup posted...
It's going to phase out nuclear, the greenest energy source we have. The fuck is the point of this thing.


Because as we know nuclear power has always been incredibly safe and has never had devestating environmental impacts when things go wrong.


Nuclear has one of the safest track records though. Whenever a nuclear disaster happens it's big news because it's so rare. Coal kills tens of thousands of people every year. Nuclear has directly killed 30 people, and has possibly caused a couple thousand deaths from cancer total.
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Cacciato
02/08/19 2:58:33 PM
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Cacciato posted...
TheWorstPoster posted...
http://thefederalist.com/2019/02/07/ten-most-insane-requirements-green-new-deal/

Do you realize the irony in you posting that, due to point #9?

@TheWorstPoster please provide your opinion on the 9th part that I mentioned.
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kangolcone
02/08/19 3:09:04 PM
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papercup posted...
kangolcone posted...
papercup posted...
It's going to phase out nuclear, the greenest energy source we have. The fuck is the point of this thing.


Because as we know nuclear power has always been incredibly safe and has never had devestating environmental impacts when things go wrong.


Nuclear has one of the safest track records though. Whenever a nuclear disaster happens it's big news because it's so rare. Coal kills tens of thousands of people every year. Nuclear has directly killed 30 people, and has possibly caused a couple thousand deaths from cancer total.


Coal is terrible. Its dirty, inefficient and dangerous.

As for nuclear, its the end result that worries me. Obviously things like Fukushima are a big deal, but nuclear waste has to be stored for between 30-50 years for the most part. I understand theres a whole process to it, but even the nuclear industry itself says they dont have a solution for nuclear waste. I just look at our crumbling infrastructure and wonder if that same felt will befall the storage as companies go out of business or simply arent proactive.
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Aculo
02/08/19 3:14:00 PM
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@SunWuKung420 posted...
As if an entire third world isn't inevitable.

found the guy more clueless than ICOYAR, ok?
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LinkPizza
02/08/19 3:27:46 PM
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kangolcone posted...
_AdjI_ posted...
kangolcone posted...
If the glaciers continue to melt and flood low lying coastal areas, thats not a scar to you?


Nope. Within a million years, none of that will matter at all. Odds are, some of those areas would end up flooding anyway in that time frame, since the planet's climate does fluctuate naturally (just not to the extent it has in the past hundred or so years).

Now, bear in mind that "perfectly fine" does not in any way mean "humans and the vast majority of current life won't all die horribly." If we keep this up, we're screwed, and so are most of the animals and plants we recognize. The Earth that would be left after the dust settled would not be the Earth we live on today. But that doesn't mean the Earth won't be able to continue operating exactly as it has for the past 4.5 billion years.


You know surgical scars fade over time too? Just because there was an injury that fades over time again doesnt mean perfectly fine. If the oceans continue to turn acidic at a faster and faster rate as they currently are thats not the Earth operating as it always has.

So for a fourth time, I just dont think we have the same definition of perfectly fine since its clearly being dramatically altered beyond the natural changes which also occur over time.

Youre probably right about your definition being different. But I think your definition is the one in the minority. The Earth would change whether we did anything or not. As it always has and always will. We may help change it faster, but it most likely would have change either way. Meaning it will be fine unless we literally like blow it up or something...
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Ozmose
02/08/19 3:45:48 PM
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Lol, I don't get where people are getting this idea that nuclear is a clean energy. We currently have over 150,000 tons of nuclear waste in the US alone, with no real effective long term plan of what to do with it except to just bury it. The last I heard, they were trying to figure some kind of universal warning sign for whomever should wander across it in another 10,000 years, because they'll likely have no concept of our language. Seriously, we have to treat long term nuclear waste disposal as if we were communicating with aliens.
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LinkPizza
02/08/19 4:18:16 PM
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Ozmose posted...
Lol, I don't get where people are getting this idea that nuclear is a clean energy. We currently have over 150,000 tons of nuclear waste in the US alone, with no real effective long term plan of what to do with it except to just bury it. The last I heard, they were trying to figure some kind of universal warning sign for whomever should wander across it in another 10,000 years, because they'll likely have no concept of our language. Seriously, we have to treat long term nuclear waste disposal as if we were communicating with aliens.

You could probably use pictures of dead people... maybe...
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02/09/19 12:58:37 AM
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Cacciato posted...
TheWorstPoster posted...
http://thefederalist.com/2019/02/07/ten-most-insane-requirements-green-new-deal/

Do you realize the irony in you posting that, due to point #9?

@TheWorstPoster please provide your opinion on the 9th part that I mentioned.

@TheWorstPoster I cant help but notice that you've visited since I've mentioned you. I hope you dont plan to abandon this topic because of your drastic lack of contribution to American society. Hopefully you can comment on the below portion of the article you provided:
Free money. The GND aims to provide, and I am not making this up, economic security for all who are unable or unwilling to work. Just to reiterate: if youre unwilling to work, the rest of us will have your back.


Obviously the bolded portion is my contribution. I'm just wondering how you, an uneducated and unemployed American citizen that leeches off the government he criticizes, can personally justify the attack against the program that willingly lives off of?
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