Board 8 > Umineko Playthrough Topic Part 3

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Dels
02/05/19 5:40:02 PM
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Welcome to part 3 of my Umineko playthrough!

Parts 1 and 2 are archived here:
http://zyxyzarchive.x10host.com/index_delsumi.html

Thank you Zyxyz!

This is a spoiler-free thread! Please do not discuss anything past where I am. Even small spoilers or implications like "Can't wait for you to get to X" or "Y character will become better later", etc. Thank you!

If you want to discuss with spoilers, please visit Raka's spectating topic here:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77401344

We left the previous topic in the middle of chapter 3: At midnight, specifically.

Commentary will resume starting post #2, so if you haven't played the game, back out now.
Popcorn_Fairy
02/05/19 8:30:23 PM
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Raka_Putra
02/05/19 9:04:44 PM
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On the third thread, tag the topic and kill.
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Fuhlt nicht durch dich Sarastro Todesschmerzen,
So bist du meine Tochter nimmermehr-- eeeeeeeeeeeeeeehr.
Dels
02/05/19 10:12:47 PM
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shannon, kanon, and genji die in a fairly touching scene

12:00 to 12:20
Dels
02/05/19 10:14:08 PM
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i think this is sort of interesting because i assume the place where the bodies will be discovered, and where there'll be a mark on the door - is kinzo's study

so how will they get 2 more people there?

i doubt we'll see a real answer to this, we'll see the magicified version - but it'll be interesting how 2 more people die and get carried over there...
Dels
02/05/19 10:29:17 PM
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poor gohda is gonna die =( he is too good for this world. he had his chance to shine, surviving nearly all of chapter 2, and now it's back to dead i guess...

but gohda will surely have his chance to be a star soon!
Dels
02/05/19 10:31:11 PM
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even the seven sisters have no clue where kumasawa is, she's that good at totally disappearing with no alibi
Dels
02/05/19 10:33:35 PM
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OH SHIT

l HAD IT RIGHT AFTER ALL
Dels
02/05/19 10:35:46 PM
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Dels posted...
Ok. Ronove makes things easy and says it. "In 1967, in a hidden mansion on Rokkenjima, Beatrice-sama existed as a human."

Interesting.

Well, that Beatrice is dead. Dead and gone. Or she's become old.

...Kumasawa...???????????????????????????????


Dels posted...
i'm gonna kick myself if kumasawa is beatrice and i ranked her so low in my mastermind rankings. at the time it just didn't seem likely that the nice old lady maid would be the evil villain. but. maybe.


suck it anyone who thinks that my predictions aren't good (okay that's mainly just me who thinks that)

nevermind that i was guessing a totally different thing and saying that human-birdcage-beatrice grew up to be kumasawa

it's still technically right
Dels
02/05/19 10:37:44 PM
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but none of this is real, sadly.

kumasawa really is just a nice old lady.

it's just this fake-lying-narrator who pretends there's magical stuff happening everywhere is saying she's actually the original beatrice

but hey, whatever
Dels
02/05/19 10:38:12 PM
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according to this, kumasawa has only just recently "awakened", so in chapters 1 and 2 she didn't remember who she was? i guess
Dels
02/05/19 11:08:21 PM
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Dels
02/05/19 11:09:52 PM
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and now the mansion actually has secret wartowers with hundreds of turrets?

lmao yeah right
Dels
02/05/19 11:10:28 PM
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hahahahahaha this is just ridiculous at this point

so silly
Tom Bombadil
02/05/19 11:10:35 PM
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Dels posted...
and now the mansion actually has secret wartowers with hundreds of turrets?


yesssssss
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Team Rocket Elite
02/05/19 11:11:49 PM
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Dels posted...
and now the mansion actually has secret wartowers with hundreds of turrets?

lmao yeah right


If that doesn't qualify as magic, what does?
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Dels
02/05/19 11:12:07 PM
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no wonder the difficulty level of this chapter is considered more fair

the objective of the game is to deny that witches exist

in chapter 2, it really seemed like magic and everything was real

but in this chapter, it's so over-the-top that any player has to realize that this magical stuff is all a totally false narrative
Dels
02/05/19 11:12:32 PM
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Team Rocket Elite posted...
Dels posted...
and now the mansion actually has secret wartowers with hundreds of turrets?

lmao yeah right


If that doesn't qualify as magic, what does?


it is the gyakuten, it's TOO magical, and therefore proves more than ever that it is fake
Dels
02/05/19 11:13:25 PM
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also wtf is a merute
Dels
02/05/19 11:28:03 PM
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lmao giant magic knights

ok
Dels
02/05/19 11:29:39 PM
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Raka_Putra
02/05/19 11:30:52 PM
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Loooove this scene. Also are you aware there's an Umineko fighting game? (don't look it up now obviously)
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Dels
02/05/19 11:35:16 PM
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I was not aware, but at this point, I am not surprised, and was sort of thinking it would be cool if there was one. I haven't played F/S N but I'm aware it (and Tsukihime?) has fighting games and seeing these scenes, I felt Kanon and Shannon and etc could totally fit in with that.

Not that any of them actually have magical powers, it's all fake, but.
Dels
02/05/19 11:36:02 PM
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This scene is interesting from a narrative-predicting meta standpoint because

You can't get any bigger than this.

But it's only chapter 3.

Which implies certain things about what direction these "magic" scenes are going to go in, y'know?
Dels
02/06/19 12:01:57 AM
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oh boy, umineko solved the problem of the unpiercable shield vs the spear that pierces anything!

they repel each other like magnets, hahaha
Dels
02/06/19 12:04:08 AM
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teacher beatrice hasn't even been given a spot on the character chart smh
Dels
02/06/19 12:11:26 AM
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is teacher-beatrice actually going to win this...? no way...! but then what would happen to the story...?
Dels
02/06/19 12:12:56 AM
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guess not
Dels
02/06/19 12:16:15 AM
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https://snag.gy/LoZ0Wm.jpg

battler has played his fair share of layton games, i see. he knows the drill.
Dels
02/06/19 12:18:02 AM
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beatrice basically says that if i like fate/stay night then i should also like this game being a fantasy magic battle VN

well jokes on her, I didn't play f/s n

i wanted a murder mystery

and that's what this game is.
Dels
02/06/19 12:19:01 AM
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1am to 6am

where everyone will wake up having no idea just how much went into the murders this time

(well, i say that as if the other two times were simpler, but for all i know, they weren't)
Dels
02/06/19 12:19:18 AM
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but i'm really looking forward to seeing a chapter where the adults are alive. this'll be interesting.
Dels
02/06/19 12:21:15 AM
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its funny because killing the 5 servants and kinzo will actually have the least possible impact

with the other chapters it was always people's parents, loved ones, etc dying

this time it's like... the adults (who are elitist snobs) will be like "okay whatever"

the kids will still feel bad though i guess

and nanjo is left as the only non-family member which is pretty funny
Team Rocket Elite
02/06/19 12:22:14 AM
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Dels posted...
i wanted a murder mystery

and that's what this game is.


Repeat that in red if you can!
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Dels
02/06/19 12:28:50 AM
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i'll repeat it in gold baby, just you wait
Dels
02/06/19 12:30:29 AM
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huh.

why move the bodies to the parlor when 4 of them were already in kinzo's study...?
Dels
02/06/19 12:33:14 AM
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actually, the servants being dead is a neat thing since it means the adults will be forced to suspect within the family. everyone will be.

no easy scapegoats this time.

besides nanjo, lol.
Dels
02/06/19 12:34:12 AM
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i don't care how impossible the game gets, there's no way any of the 7 adults committed these murders. they clearly were together all night.

ugh. whatever, i'm over trying to figure out how the game makes sense. i just know there's no magic.
Dels
02/06/19 12:42:08 AM
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they split the bodies up into 5 different rooms...? whaat? why?
Dels
02/06/19 6:48:23 PM
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daily bump but likely gonna keep going shortly
Dels
02/06/19 7:37:25 PM
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Aha!

Teacher-Beatrice seems to be about to confirm that my earlier theory was correct!
Dels
02/06/19 7:42:16 PM
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I said, I think between chapters 2 and 3, that maybe it's possible for both the real world stuff and the magic stuff to exist - like they exist on two different planes, and what happens in one happens in the other, but justified in a different way.

Teacher-Beatrice is starting to ask Battler about the rain dance, and Battler is like "But there's a scientific explanation for it", and now she's talking about how chemical reactions make things burn, but there used to be other theories about it.

Battler is confused.

But I know where she's going.

She's going to explain that magic can co-exist with science and that both can happen.

Like how midichlorians make the force happen, or whatever.

And I can accept that.
Dels
02/06/19 9:41:24 PM
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This is actually pretty interesting.

As a low-intelligence person, I've always sort of believed that technology is basically magic.

I mean, I can't even begin to get my head around how electricity actually makes millions and millions of pixels appear on my screen and how it somehow communicates 0s and 1s to create games and movies and the internet and everything.

It all seems like magic to me.

I've never seen any story actually discuss these ideas though, until now.
Reg
02/06/19 9:43:23 PM
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Dels posted...
As a low-intelligence person



If you're low-intelligence, what does that say about the average internet user?
Dels
02/06/19 9:49:17 PM
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So it's not quite like what I said? She's essentially saying that only one is correct: science or magic. Just both are possible right now. It's close enough to what I predicted, I even correctly hit on the fact that the magic we were seeing as an explanation being triggered by actual events that happened.
Dels
02/06/19 9:51:50 PM
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Reg posted...
Dels posted...
As a low-intelligence person



If you're low-intelligence, what does that say about the average internet user?


That a person's level of intelligence matters a lot less than their ability to be mature, reasonable, and open-minded

As long as you act within the boundaries of your level, you are okay.

But to be unintelligent and yet act as if you're smarter than you are - aka arrogance, or stubbornness, or ignorance, is the true problem. As well as being in denial about the things you are not smart or educated enough to know about.
Dels
02/06/19 9:59:31 PM
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There's a really cool new "logic and trick" style theme that started playing after Battler got re-energized by Virgilia's advice.

You guys weren't kidding about how many tracks there are. And they're all so good!
Dels
02/06/19 10:02:02 PM
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for some reason, shcrodinger is written in japanese katakana as shuredinga-.

why the hell does the ro become a ru
Dels
02/06/19 10:02:42 PM
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Also the localizer translates it as "Schrodinger's cat box" even though it really should just be Schrodinger's box
Dels
02/06/19 10:04:42 PM
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